>>11786
Reposting my stuff from other thread:
Masculine traits:strength, courage, mastery and honor. I agree. mostly however:
"Mastery is a man’s desire and ability to cultivate and
demonstrate proficiency and expertise in technics that aid
in the exertion of will over himself, over nature, over
women, and over other men."
Man should not exert his will over nature because the nature's laws are superior to human will. Maybe this was not meant this way but it kind of implies man can change nature(this is the basis of leftism)
Moreover the mastery here does not refer to self mastery which is an essential part of masculine archetypes as put by Evola - man the warrior and the ascetic. But I understand that sodomy itself is a negation of nature, the ultimate rejection of it an example of "man exerting his will upon nature in order to fullfil his hedonistic desires." So that's why sodomy and self-mastery do not go hand in hand because the sodomite is a slave of his passions.Man must be able to control himself before leading others.
Then the chapter "honor" makes little sense because of the lack of "mastery" Donovan considers mastery to be simply some ability to do something - set a fire, produce a weapon, play the music
Another chapter is moral relativist masturbation, as expected from the likes of the author.
>There is a difference between being a good man and
being good at being a man.
Being a good man has to do with ideas about morality,
ethics, religion, and behaving productively within a given
civilizational structure.
Being good at being a man is about being willing and
able to fulfill the natural role of men in a survival scenario.
A man who is more concerned with being a good man
than being good at being a man makes a very well-
behaved slave.
In other words: It makes no difference if you're immoral, lack self control as long as you fit the physical demands of being strong, courageous to do sth.
Then there is Bonobono masturbation society chapter which talks about how everyone fucks everyone and that chimpanzee model is the masculine way while Bonobono is more of feminine model (with mentioning a "fun fact" that homosexual intercourse is a part of bonobono)
tl dr He projects his perverse tendencies upon all men, his insights on masculinity are not that great, if not merely superficial. just put into a coat of being sophisticated (guys guys I know what virtus means…and so on) As I have said: Evola;s chapter of 10 pages in revolt against the modern world will tell you more than 200 pgs of "the way of men" The book has very few good points among the garbage put there. Nothing that would change you anyway, just confuse your worldview if you do not yet see through bullshit clearly. As you say you do not remember much from the book. Neither did I but I knew which chapters were troublesome for me.
>>11790
Look I have read the book and the bonobono degeneracy is subversive. Unrepentant sodomite is subversive. If he was a former sodomite with clear cut ideas I would have no problem probably. This is not the case.
Look man. If you want a good book, gram Codreanu instead of people who literally put their dicks into someone's shit.
>Genuinely interested in anything positive you have to say about any books tbh.
I would recommend:
For my legionaries
Revolt against the modern world
Homilies against the jews
Ride the Tiger
Metaphysics of war
Hammer of the patriot
Twilight over england
Men among the ruins
Jose Antonio primo de rivera - selected writings
Handbook for rightwing youth
And so on…those are books I have read and those are solid. Just because I dislike Greg…that does not mean I disregard all boks as "below the level" not at all. But the way of men simply has very little value and has problematic ideas pushed in that. Which I believe is caused by him being a sodomite. Ideas such as man subduing the nature by his own will (on part of their passion sodomites do exactly this) while disregarding the main point of morality and spiritual struggle. Then there is the bonobono degeneracy. I have notes from the book and I did not write down everything. Those arejust things that I can recapitulate more than 1 year after reading the book.