No.6795
I see a lot of posts on this board asking when exactly something counts as a relapse. Hopefully this post will clear up any confusion.These criteria assume that the reader is going for a complete nofap/noporn streak. Obviously if you're only doing noporn fapping to the thought of a girl won't end your streak. You should also remember that just because you fucked up one thing doesn't mean you have to throw all your progress away (eg. if you edge, don't feel like you might as well cum, if you fap, don't think you might as well binge).
>Is it a relapse if I see porn?
If you didn't intentionally seek it out, no. Ignore it and move on.
>Is it a relapse if I sought out porn but stopped myself from doing anything and exited out?
It sort of depends on how long you were looking at it. If you watched it for a while, yes. But if you looked for it but didn't click or whatever, I'd say no. This one's really dependent on how much you watched/for how long, etc.
>Is it a relapse if I edged?
Yes.
>Is it a relapse if I had sexual thoughts but didn't touch myself?
Not unless you're going full monkmode.
>Does a wet dream count as a relapse?
No.
>Does sex count as a relapse?
No.
>Does a handjob count as a relapse?
No, since it was someone else jerking you off It better have been a girl, you faggot .
Feel free to pose your own questions ITT.
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No.6796
>>6795
This is a mostly well done and accurate post. I'm gonna add to it and disagree with some of it
To add: PMO (Porn, Masturbation, and Orgasm) is listed in order of damage. A relapse of looking at porn is obviously way less substantial than a relapse of ejaculating
To disagree: Many of the most powerful physiological benefits of nofap come from semen retention. If you're in this for more than self-discipline and self-control and you want an increase in testosterone, confidence, and attraction from the opposite sex then you should consider a wet dream, sex, and a handjob as relapses and abstain from them
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No.6797
I've been trying nofap for two weeks now (I think; I don't really count) and a few times i have watched porn, got aroused and leaked pre, but I didn't felt like I had relapsed.
The thing is, why exactly is that you would consider it a relapse?
To be honest, this my first time here
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No.6799
>>6797
A couple reasons watching porn could be considered a relapse is 1. Because watching porn alone releases excessive dopamine which is thought to damage the brain, and 2. Because a large portion of this board is genuine porn addicts; it's the equivalent of junkies taking small hits of their drug of choice
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No.6801
>>6796
I'm on my 35th day and I just had a wetdream this morning, but how do you even control that?
And btw I did not watch porn or anything else and I abstain myself from having sexual thoughts.
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No.6803
>>6801
Most people give the advice to not watch porn or focus on sexual thoughts at bedtime. If that doesn't work for you you should wear a well-fit chastity device between the time you go to sleep and the time you wake up
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No.6820
>>6796
Thanks for the feedback.
As I mentioned in the post, these criteria are for anons who are going for the basic nofap/noporn streak, so if you're going for something else like semen retention, some criteria will change.
I'm also curious about something. Aren't wet dreams just your body flushing out old semen to make way for new semen? Granted, I've never read much into why guys have wet dreams, but I've always assumed that it's just a way to get rid of semen before the cells die, the same way that you shed dead skin cells. I've always been under the assumption that that's the reason you have wet dreams when you don't jerk off but not when you do.
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No.6827
>>6803
can you fuck off with your weird sick fetish pls
thnx n kill yourself
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No.6837
>>6795
>if you edge, don't feel like you might as well cum
I disagree here.
If you read ybop, they say that if you edge you should cum because otherwise you are going to rewire your brain to exclusively associate sex with "porn" (includes arousal and imagination and images etc.), leading to complete erectile disorder.
If you edged, just turn off all porn and all imagination, fap, cum and forget about it.
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No.6839
>>6803
Shit advice
I won't buy such a degenerate device
My body will stay pure and these props are only tools for the weak
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No.6843
>>6820
I don't think wet dreams have a normal function in human beings because most of the people that do nofap, myself included, don't get them. I'm on day 50 and I've never had a nocturnal emission in my life
>>6837
>If you read ybop, they say that if you edge you should cum because otherwise you are going to rewire your brain to exclusively associate sex with "porn" (includes arousal and imagination and images etc.), leading to complete erectile disorder
This will only become a problem if you edge all the time. The brief battles with edging during nofap obviously won't lead to ED, just don't make a habit of it
>If you edged, just turn off all porn and all imagination, fap, cum and forget about it
1/10 advice
>>6839
>>6827
samefag is easily rustled
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No.6858
>>6795
>Does a wet dream count as a relapse?
No
>Does sex count as a relapse?
No
>Does a handjob count as a relapse?
No
WAS RELEASING YOUR SEMEN PART OF YOUR PLAN?
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No.6913
>>6858
While sex and handjobs can be evaded
There isn't much you can do for wet dreams and if you should at all
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No.7001
>>6843
>most of the people that do nofap, myself included, don't get them
Really? I had my first wet dream when I was 10, years before I started watching porn. I only stop getting them if I jerk off regularly. Otherwise I have one every 5-14 days or so (regardless of whether or not I have sexual thoughts before going to sleep).
>>6858
OF COURSHE
But on a serious note, I've managed to attain all the benefits of nofap while having wet dreams. I don't even get the post-fap drowsiness/mental fog the morning after having a wet dream.
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No.7603
I went sleep really early, and I woke up in the middle of night. I guess I thought about sex, my D DELICATELY touched matress FOR NO PURPOSE and released
Is it relapse? I didn't even touch D with my hands or tried to ejaculate, I think i was half asleep
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No.7605
>>7603
>Is it relapse?
Tell me your reason for doing NoFap and I'll tell you if it's a relapse
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No.7606
>>7605
>feeling like shit after fap
>brainfog
>social anxiety
>fighting with addiction
>saying "no" to jews
>changing my life
and I like concept of "preventing semen from release"
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No.7608
>>7606
Nocturnal emissions are gonna have no effect on this:
>fighting with addiction
>saying "no" to jews
They're gonna have a slight negative effect on this:
>feeling like shit after fap
>changing my life
>brainfog
and a major negative impact on this:
>social anxiety
The two things you're working with in nofap are semen retentive testosterone boosting and dopamine sensitization. When you don't fuck or fap at all you're sharper, more focused, and more confident. The nofap "superpowers" come from total abstinence and celibacy.
Unfortunately wet dreams count as a relapse if you want those superpowers. The only way I know to prevent wet dreams is to wear a chastity device between the time you go to sleep and the time you wake up
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No.7609
>>7608
It can't be helped
I'm going to reach 60 days without fapping in few days so I feel fine
I wonder why 3rd wet dream in this year happened AGAIN in sunday
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No.7615
>>6795
>>Does sex count as a relapse?
>No.
Full retard.
If you're going nofap you should also (for obvious reasons), abstain from sex while you do it.
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No.7655
>>6801
>I'm on my 35th day and I just had a wetdream this morning, but how do you even control that?
Next time you PMO relapse, practice doing kegels and stopping ejaculation (dry orgasm).
At some point, it will just become second nature to you and you will be able to resist cumming in a wetdream. I've done it before.
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No.7656
>>6795
does it count as a relapse if i'm sitting in bed and thinking about a qt and i get a boner and pre jizz comes out
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No.7667
>>7656
if you're not doing anything to encourage it then no, you're fine
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No.7672
fuck you for posting your feminist sexual liberation propaganda OP
oven yourself fam
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No.11252
>>6795
To make it clear relapse is when you give yourself the stimuli intentionally to get that good dopamine. It is a drug addiction and seeking ways to satisfy your need is relapse. Even sex is. You have to deprave yourself from the drug until you become ill and feel the effects of withdrawal. It takes a lot of time for your brain to become healthier and rewire itself. You store vital energy for the embryo in your semen which otherwise reused by your system. With having sex the woman sucks your life energy that could be used for creativity, intuition, strength. Your body rewards you short therm for it but it gives you serious lows. From greek philosophers to heavy weight boxers, inventors and artists there are many great examples of it.
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