No.6489
I'm simultaneously interested in doing NoFap and jelqing exercises. I know not everyone believes that jelqing works, but I have seen results so far and want to continue until I reach my goal of 6 inch girth, or maybe 5.75 if I have to settle. The problem is, at the intermediate to advanced level of progress, it's best to do jelqs at 80-90% erection level, and to maintain this erection level for 30 minutes or so, my best tool would be porn.
But I don't want to fap! I also sort of don't want to look at porn because I've seen how the stimulus itself fucks up your brain. And honestly, even if the idea of looking at porn seems unpalatable to me at the beginning of a session, I know there's a good chance that after I've been jelqing and visually stimulating myself for half an hour that I'll find something I want to fap to.
Anybody out there share this problem / combination of goals? If I do nofap for a bit, will physical stimulation be enough to sustain a boner for a steady half an hour while I look at completely non-stimulating things on the internet?
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No.6533
>6 inch girth
>girth
u wot? I thought it supposedly increases length, not girth
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No.6536
Brother, don't do it. Jelqing is a straight road to scars. Scars mean that you won't feel shit when you do anything sexual, it fucks with the nerves and does damage you don't need to do.
You'd be better off just getting a better diet and exercising. Just shave off what fat you can and live with what you've got. Girls aren't going to be going to bed with measuring tape, so chill.
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No.6537
>>6533
Jelqing is for both length and girth. I mentioned girth only because that's all I care about now. Already 8 in length and I don't see a qualitative difference between being 8 inches or 9, and honestly, if gains come on both fronts, I hope to never be over 9 because that means you could never go balls deep (8 is already stretching it) …. hypothetically speaking, if you found a nice wife to have sex with in the missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation.
There are some exercises that focus on girth only and some length only. The girth only exercise I do besides jelqing is called the compressor. It also requires some erection level, but I omitted this exercise from OP because jelqing has some memetic recognition but I don't want to bother with esoteric jargon.
To follow up on my own question, I did try jelqing tonight without any visual aid, and it did kind of suck not being >80% hard the whole session, but we'll see if it gets more bonerrific as the days go by as I am only on day 2 of nofap
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No.6538
>>6536
Tbh it's not really about girls. It's like pic related. At some point you stop caring about how girls might see you and just want to be bigger than the other guys, until you turn into a freak.
Are you speaking from experience, though? I'm interested in hearing from people who are done more than me.
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No.6539
>>6538
i like how at one point you turn back into a frog
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No.6541
>>6538
Friend of mine in college did it. Not sure if he did it wrong but it fucked him up enough to give him ED. He just doesn't feel anything down there anymore. Practically went homosex because of it.
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No.6543
>>6537
How long where you before jelqing? What other methods did you use for length?
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No.6544
>>6489
Use cock rings, they will keep you hard without porn. Do you lack imagination? just think dirty thoughts like you did back in 4th grade.
I am also trying nofap/jelqing and the cock rings are a big help just don't keep them on over night and you should be fine
btw are you using this website?
>okaydick.com
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No.6559
>>6537
>8 inch dick
>wants more
the problem is in your head
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No.6560
The only reason you would want a larger penis is because you see the porn stars with penises that are abnormally large, and they got that size by using penis pumps and camera angles.
People like OP are obnoxious. If you're doing nofap you wouldn't really want to do this.
I feel like there's just one person on this board that's suggesting all the stupid ideas, from chemical castration to halfway orgasms.
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No.6569
>>6489
>until I reach my goal of 6 inch girth
>6 inch girth
>6
>inch
>girth
Nigger do you realize just how fucking massive that is? You'd probably pass out from blood-loss every time you got a boner, and forget about fitting a monster like that into any woman who hasn't been a total whore for the past fifty years.
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No.6572
Got crooked dick from botched circumscion so it makes full boners difficult. Are there good routines?
Wouldnt mind putting 2inches in length an 1 inch in girth.
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No.6583
>>6536
This.
There are no muscles in the penis to exercise. Jelqing will destroy the spongy tissues and cause scar growth. Don't do it.
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No.6588
>>6543
Hard to say. I was overweight in college, and then I was somewhere between 6 and 6.5 probably. After losing weight but before any exercises I was somewhere between 6.5 and 7. Going from 7ish to 8 was when I saw the real results (ie all other factors like weight and cardio fitness were held constant at that time)
I did some hanging with a makeshift hanging device. You have to be very careful if you try this. It's safer to order a professional device but I was unsure of the results and didn't want to feed into the PE market because it really felt like it was preying on men's insecurity. My MacGyver device is a bottle with coins for adjustable weight, with a paperclip bent into a ring attached to a string attached to the bottle. I would let it hang for maybe 2 minutes at a time then periodically take it off and shake my dick around to make sure there was no stagnant blood. Verrry makeshift and not safe.
>>6544
thanks but I am finding now into day 3 that it is getting easier and I probably don't need that. I use a different site but I don't like promoting sites because then it feels like you're bullshitting like this is all a ruse to trick other guys to get into the exercises / buying products.
>>6559
I don't want more than 8 in length. Length and girth are different axes.
>>6560
Can't argue that porn is what initially made me this way, but at this point it's nice to see porn and not feel like their dicks are bigger than mine. Most look in the 7s and 8s, even many claimed bbcs are around 8, with some scarce 9s in the mix. You're right about the angles. The best estimate you can make of how big a guy is from a scene happens when he puts his own hand around his dick. That way you're comparing it to another male body part instead of a tiny woman's.
>>6569
6 to girth is what 7.75 is to length. It's not that insane. And I'm even happy to settle for 5.75. Here's how I came up with my goals. I used a percentile calculator: http://howlongismyschlong.com/
I told myself I'd never care to be more than 99% for either length or girth. 7.75 is the ceiling for "mission accomplished" for length. 6 is the point of not caring anymore for girth. It's not like I'm aiming to leave humanity behind. It would be insane if someone looked at what's good enough for 99% and then added an extra inch on top. I'm looking to hit around the maximum WITHIN the realm of normalcy, not beyond. And if it turned out that I couldn't make any more gains than I have, I wouldn't stress over it. This is all novelty, like getting fitter at the gym. Nobody really cares about the difference between 14, 12, or 8% bodyfat, but it's still fun to grind away towards an ideal.
>>6572
Idk, I just winged it. I've seen people talking about fixing crookedness on penis exercise sites, I'm sure you can search and find their routines and blogposts.
>>6583
Do you have evidence for me to read about this? In particular, how is the scarring a bad thing? I already knew that it's the scars creating the thickness, but I've never noticed any problems. I don't like how the penis exercising website forums could very well be moderated to censor people who complain about damages to keep their profits going, so I do appreciate warnings if there is evidence.
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No.6589
>>6588
The spongy tissue, which expands the penis when filled with blood, is destroyed and replaced with a scar which obviously won't expand like the spongy tissues do.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erection
>The arteries dilate causing the corpora cavernosa of the penis (and to a lesser extent the corpora spongiosum) to fill with blood; simultaneously the ischiocavernosus and bulbospongiosus muscles compress the veins of the corpora cavernosa restricting the egress and circulation of this blood. Erection subsides when parasympathetic activity reduces to baseline.
You can just look at the anatomy of the penis to discover that there are no muscles there to exercise. So why beat it up? The spongy tissues will not become more responsive from it, or expand more. They will only be destroyed so less blood can balloon the penis. Bad idea.
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No.6590
My dick is just 4 inches long and I am just 5'4" tall, but I am not in this for the girls, manlets and women hate each other, is nature.
I am in this because I lost my last job due staying very late "shaking my corndog" and I had to quit and it was to hard, I eventually did it.
I don't plan to ever get a gf or get married, i do however plan to ask my dad for a hooker one or two times maybe I'll then do it once in a while, if it is safe.
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No.6591
>>6589
Are you sure the scar replaces the tissue, or does it form on top of the tissue, adding to the total volume? This kind of stuff is outside my field of study.
Already knew it's about scarring and not muscle.
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No.6611
Sorta related, is it a good idea to try and grow back your foreskin while on no-fap?
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No.6615
OP, you are the male equivalent of a girl who gets breast implants.
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No.6617
>>6611
if you just don't look at porn and have strong willpower to disconnect stretching from pleasure you can do it
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No.6618
>>6615
the difference is, penis exercises can be healthy. It gives you stronger pelvic floor muscles when you do kegels, so you can hold back from cumming and have stronger orgasms. Certain exercises give you harder erections. Also, cutting your tits open and spending 4 weeks working out your dick to get tiny gains each time are a lot different in my book
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No.6619
>>6589
>The spongy tissues will not become more responsive from it, or expand more. They will only be destroyed so less blood can balloon the penis. Bad idea.
where are you getting your "jelqing causes scarring" from? because that is not what I know about jelqing, it fills the spongy tissue more than it normally would stretching the tissue so it accepts more blood. jelqing is much different from a penis pump which is damaging to the penis by doing too much stretching too fast instead of slow and steady.
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No.6626
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No.6627
>>6618
what penis exercises? OP is talking about jelqing which literally is strapping a weight to your dick in hope of stretching it
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No.6632
>>6627
that is not jelqing you are misinformed
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No.6644
>>6489
>it's best to do jelqs at 80-90% erection level
Idiot.
If you would have read about jelqing for at least 10 minutes, you'd have noticed that a 50-70% erection level is ideal. Go higher and your dick actually shrinks, besides the risk of accidents increasing (yes, you might break your dick).
>to maintain this erection level for 30 minutes or so, my best tool would be porn
bait.jpg
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No.6645
>>6560
>abnormally large
Nonsense, the biggest penises in porn are about 18 cm.
Mandingo has about 20 or 22 cm and everyone thinks he's over 30 cm (he isn't lol).
Here's perspective:
>ideal length for women 7 inches
>mandingo is at 9.5
>everyone thinks mandingo is 13 inches
>johnny sins is at 7 inches
>average is 5 inches
>>6583
Yes there are muscles in the penis.
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No.6646
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No.6649
>>6590
what if the best place to start a shooting spree? a night club?
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No.6683
>>6645
Show them on the picture then.
There are none. Those are spongy tissues and are too delicate to handle the pressure from jelqing. The friction from sex does not put pressure on the spongy tissues in that way. The porn stars deformed penises have soft erections because they have a lot of scar tissue in the penis from doing such abuse to themselves.
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No.6686
To be clear, Jelqing is just squeezing a larger than normal amount of blood in your penis right? I'm doing stretches to lengthen in order to achieve the little bit of length I need to be just 8 inches, and it hasn't had any adverse effects yet, am I in the safe zone?
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No.6768
>>6618
I believe kegels can strengthen one's erections if they're somewhat weak as well.
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No.7396
Hi guys, my longest nofap of 6 months was destroyed because I go into jelqing, it is too much to handle for someone hypersensitive to touching his own penis
pls abstain from it, with healthy full erections, you dick will be fine
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No.10894
>>6489
>6 inch girth
Do you mean length, or are you planning on becoming a Penis-Assassin-For-Hire? Because that would kill any woman up to and including Madonna. You'd be forcing them to give birth in reverse.
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No.10897
>>6645
>average is 5 inches
morelike 5.75"
also, check your math.. 20cm is ~8", 30cm is ~1'
this is why everybody should just use the imperial system
>>6683
the corpus cavernosa and spongiosum are filled with smooth muscle that engorges with blood when you get erection, PE causes cell division in this muscle just like when you work out at the gym
likewise the tunica, which is like a balloon, the outer layer, gets cell division from stetching
as long as you increase the smooth muscle (the meat in the bag) enough to fill the bag (the tunica), you should in theory have strong erections.. and vice versa, if you stretch your tunica too much but not generate enough smooth muscle to fill the bag, you will be floppy..
time since last ejaculation, testosterone, cardio, and pelvic floor (kegel) exercising all help with erections too. You can also just use a penis pump to get hard then put on a ring which is their intended purpose tbqh famalamalam. And there's things you can take like L-arginine that help with erections too. Erections shouldn't be an issue unless you're over 40 or a porn addict / excessive masturbator.
the real problem is that the majority of men have under 6", thin penises and women prefer on average about a 7"x5.5" penis which is a small minority of the male population.. with modern feminist society, women can all share these few men which is not fair to the rest of men.. PE is the solution to this issue, why do you fight it bruv? the key is to be extremely careful about injury and be gentle and go slow and check physiological indicators etc..
I don't know this "muh scar tissue" meme came from, but people parrot it a lot on imageboards.
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No.10913
>>10894
he means around no across you retard
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No.10939
>>10897
I redact this statement, I now believe PE is bullshit and advise against it. Be gentle with your penis.
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No.11178
What if my penis is way too sensitive and losing some sensation will help me last longer? Is this recommended?
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No.11179
>>11178
Umm, that is a clear sign of not stimulating it enough. Exact opposite of numb penis. Good job un that nofap streak.
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No.11180
>>11179
Well shit, I tried fapping consistently with a death grip and an onahole too and my sensitivity never really went down. I also don't want to quit nofap because it helps keep me focused…damn. What do you suggest?
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No.17083
>>10939
What the hell happened in 5 days to make you do a complete 180?
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No.17084
>>11180
The oversensitivity phase will pass. Just keep on not fapping.
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