No.4410
So I'm in my first relationship now, I figure this is the best possible time to hop on the /nofap/ train, but I have a question.
So we mess around, but we've decided on no sex till marriage. Any hand stuff is fine, mouth stuff on special occasions. I have to ask; is mutual masturbation breaking nofap? I know nofap is about breaking porn addiction, so staying monogamous (especially with my prime girl, leaving me with no other reference) is still breaking the degeneracy. I just don't know if I should give up orgasms all together.
Really the biggest reason I'm doing this is because her sex drive is much lower than mine. She has fucked up hormones and doesn't get in the mood but once a month (on the flip side, I only have to deal with a medically induced period once every three months so that's how I keep her lol), but she still messes around with me fairly often just to tame my sex drive. I just feel bad, like I'm pressuring her, and would prefer not to get hyperaggressive every few days because I haven't came. I picked porn back up to try to relieve some of that tension, but it just makes me feel shitty. I'm only really satisfied when she gets me off. On one hand, I know cold turkey will kill my sex drive in the long run; but on the other short term it's really going to fuck with my relationship (especially trying to explain that I'm trying to quit porn. She's insecure enough as it is, she's never going to believe she's the only satisfaction I can get). Idk which way to go…
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No.4412
>>4410
Do anal. God can't see your sins if you do it in the backdoor. And no, mutual masturbation is not breaking nofap, as long as she does it for you and you do it for her.
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No.4413
I think so, I mean, some cucks might "nah it's ok" but I'm not buying it.
Also, how do blowjobs not count as sex? I'm really interested in the logic here.
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No.4414
And why are you getting married anyway? In the future she'll get fat and gross, and she'll be able to take like half of your shit if you get divorced. She'll also expect you to spend money on stupid shit.
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No.4417
>>4414
>durrrr all women are the same
>look at all these mgtow horror stories I've found online to back my views bruh
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No.4418
>>4417
Right. Well, I guess it's a lie that like
>40% of marriages fail?
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No.4420
>>4413
No risk of pregnancy basically. Sex = babies and all that.
>>4414
Because she's the anti-modern woman. I'm the only dude she's ever been naked in front of, she wants to be a classic wife and keep my house and raise my kids, which is what I've always wanted, but she also is smart enough to get a high paying job while we wait to be financially stable enough to have kids. Even if she gets ugly, she's built to be a killer mom, her parents are still happy together, and no cucks in her family, so the future looks good. She's antifeminist to the extreme, so really nothing to worry about.
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No.4423
>>4418
Divorce rates are high, yes. But you completely ignore the various factors that cause them. Notably age, race, level of education, income, poverty, rural/urban environments, etc. Those factors all come into play when it comes to marriage longevity (i.e mate selection).
A mature (25-30) White couple in rural Wisconsin with decent income and education is obviously going to stay together much longer than some high-school dropout White teenage girl from San Fran who decided to get hitched with a deadbeat Negro man after a night at the local bar. You can't just lump all of those circumstances together and declare that "50% of divorces never last, so we shouldn't even bother". That's dumb as hell. It's no different from feminists saying "Women are paid less than men! Sexism!" after taking part-time female employees in their sample and comparing them with male ones with much higher qualifications.
tl;dr Divorces don't happen for no reason. Don't want one? Choose the right mate and be a decent person yourself. It's not rocket science.
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No.4424
>>4423
I'm just saying that it could work out for OP, or it could all blow up in his face. There's no guarantees.
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No.4426
>>4423
If she's willing to get nude in front of him before marriage that's not a good sign.
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No.4427
>>4410
Technically speaking, mutual masturbation is not breaking nofap. It's a form of sex. Indeed, many guys do nofap as a means to become confident enough to successfully seek sex. Your dedication to no full-on premarital sex is admirable if still lacking and hence partly degenerate. I don't think it's going to work out if she's that insecure. Honestly it's a mistake to ever tell your significant other you're trying to quit porn; life isn't anime.
>>4412
>implying sodomy isn't a sin
>>4426
This guy brings up a good point.
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No.4444
>>4427
Mostly she's just insecure because of some of her medical stuff. It's to be expected from a woman tbh, she's better than most. Also, I'm not much of a weeb, is quitting porn an anime trope?
>>4426
She was hesitant at first, the only reason she does at all is because we mesh so well she can't help it. She's cold as fuck to most other people, but when it comes to me she just melts, today she legit teared up looking at me, because "I just make her so happy"
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No.4445
>>4444
Oh shit son quads confirm romantic success
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No.4613
How do I report this shit?
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No.4858
>>4426
It's not that. It's the fact that she holds back the pussy while doing other stuff. Classic signs of being cucked.
If she was serious about chastity, he would get nothing.
It smells bullshit, and OP should make 100% sure he's not a cuck in the making before making any decisions that could ruin his life.
The low sex drive thing is also weird. I don't buy the hormones argument and neither should OP.
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No.4905
>>4444
>quitting porn an anime trope
I've never seen that in an anime, and I've seen some weird shit.
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No.4908
>>4905
That'd be pretty ironic, since the anime industry thrives on catering to ronery young men who pay beaucoup bux for their dose of 2D titties.
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No.4969
Why is your first relationship a homosexual one?
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No.4984
>>4410
>no sex till marriage
good job cucking yourself lad
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No.5665
>>4410
>I just don't know if I should give up orgasms all together
If you have orgasms or ejaculate semen you'll lose all of the hormonal, physiological, and mental benefits of nofap. If your goal is only to break porn addiction, having sex won't affect your desire desire to watch porn
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No.5668
how many threads like these must we have per week?
i swear this is like the 15th thread in the last 2 months
just call tyrone to fuck your gf for you, there, problem solved, tyrone goes to hell and you go to heaven and your gf is sexually satisfied and you're pure
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No.10440
my mother is probably older than u and fucked her partner and after 10 years they got married. thats when u know its going well. no girl in the world is worth that shit.
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No.10441
>nofap is about breaking porn addiction
really faggot?
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No.10453
Yes it is, and so is oral sex
Sex should be mostly repressed actually, it's a disgusting unhealthy act that should be completely off limits for all your lives except in planned situations with the sole purpose of reproduction, and even then it should be taken as a duty and one should not linger in the superficial pleasure of it
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No.10803
>B-B-BUH SHE IS NOT LIKE THE OTHERS!!!
Get THE FUCK out of here, idiot. Ejaculating is considered a relapse, be it from masturbation or sex.
Also, I can tell from your story that she's cucking you behind your back. Enjoy raising Chad's babies.
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No.10881
>>4410
>her sex drive is low
anon, i have bad news for you…
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No.10890
>>4412
>God can't see your sins if you do it in the backdoor.
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