/monarchy/ - STOP THINKING LIKE REPUBLICANS

>>1152

Nationalism, statolatry, socialism and democracy weren't Jewish ideas. Commoners like you are everythikg that's wrong with contemporary political discourse. Multiculturalism became a huge problem in the last few decades, but the decline happened centuries ago, culminating in the French Revolution, which wasn't sponsored by Jews in any way.

>>1154

>democracy isn't from jews

Originally, it wasn't. The spiritual forerunners of the French Revolution weren't the Jews, neither were its masterminds.

>you are the cancer, but I won't say why

Didn't I? Your analysis is shit, and you're suffering from the all too common arrogance of seeing the problems of your own age as the great problem that mankind is facing.

>multicult ain't that bad

Didn't say that. Can you read?

>French Revolution wasn't sponsored by Jews in any way.

Didn't say it wasn't sponsored in any way, but if it was mainly an operation by non-Jews, then it's hard to blame a Jewish conspiracy or even a race consciousness for it. Also, you haven't named a single Jew who was complicit in the French Revolution.

>anarcho-monarchist

Great observation, commoner.

>Still leaves name tag as "Commoner" despite the polite nudge.

I was going to ask for your evidence regarding the Jews<->French Revolution connection, but you really should lurk moar before posting in a new board.

>>1156

The point of trolling is to get the other person mad, or to het him to look stupid. Being rude isn't trolling; being stupid isn't trolling; shitposting isn't trolling. And while we're at it, being called a retard isn't getting someone mad.

I assumed you were trolling because your post was entirely lacking in substance.

>>1152

Antisemitism in the Russian Empire existed both culturally and institutionally. The Jews were restricted to live within the Pale of Settlement,[11] and suffered pogroms.[12][13] Between 1881 and 1920, more than two million Jews left Russia.[14]

As a result, many Jews supported gradual or revolutionary changes within the Russian Empire. Those movements ranged from the far left (Jewish Anarchism,[15] Bundists, Bolsheviks, Mensheviks[16]) to moderate left (Trudoviks[17]) and constitutionalist (Constitutional Democrats[18]) parties. On the eve of the February Revolution in 1917, of about 23,000 members of the Bolshevik party 364 (about 1.6%) were known to be ethnic Jews.[14] According to the 1922 Bolshevik party census, there were 19,564 Jewish Bolsheviks, comprising 5.21% of the total, and in the 1920s of the 417 members of the Central Executive Committee, the party Central Committee, the Presidium of the Executive of the Soviets of the USSR and the Russian Republic, the People's Commissars, 6% were ethnic Jews.[19] Between 1936 and 1940, during the Great Purge, Yezhovshchina and after the rapprochement with Nazi Germany, Stalin had largely eliminated Jews from senior party, government, diplomatic, security and military positions.[20]

Some scholars have grossly exaggerated Jewish presence in the Soviet Communist Party. For example, journalist David Aaronovitch quotes Alfred Jensen as saying that in the 1920s "75 per cent of the leading Bolsheviks" were "of Jewish origin".[better source needed] According to Aaronovitch, "a cursory examination of membership of the top committees shows this figure to be an absurd exaggeration".[21]

>>1178

Nice, what's the sauce?

>>1179

wikipedia

>>1152

I wouldn't sum it up like this, no

At least for Europe i believe like many here that the downfall happened with the enlightenment and its progressive insertion and radicalization in our societal fabric

So, if we really want someone to blame i would look for the nation that embodies such ideas and more than anybody else worked to propagate and impose them on us, and that is, the United States of America

We are used to think of Europe and America as colsed friends, but that is far from historical truth, Ever since the first settlements the colonists grew a profound resentment for the monarchy and everything else that reminded them that old continent they hated so much they so desperately wanted to escape it

As such, the American Revolution was notoriously heavily drenched in the ideas of the enlightenment, and the newly formed american republic served as an example to imitate to all those who shared these sentiments back here in Europe, as well as a sign that a similar thing was possible in our countries too

It's not a secret either that the French Revolution was also heavily influenced by what the Americans did a few years earlier, some people like La Fayette even fought in both occasions

I think it's not too farfetched to say that the French Revolution was the first step to the americanization of Europe

And so, the propagation of the revolutionary principles and the perception of America as a model republic easily spread through all Europe, as we started murdering our kings, desecrating our churches and spitting on our ancestors in an attempt to resemble more and more that shiny new ideal country overseas, until eventually the americans themselves stepped in, starting with Woodrow Wilson, and began actively meddling in our affairs and push their way of life unto us

In fact, they went on meddling in our affairs so much that in WW2 they placed their bases in our countries and never left, making us de facto militarily occupied dominions

And i don't think i need to explain how damaging this dominion has been in the last 70 years, making degenerate hedonistic capitalism the only alternative to the marxist hell during the Cold War, and slowly shaping our culture to their image. And let's not even talk about how the cancerous '68 rioter movement came from America and invested first France and then the rest of Europe once again

Even the current fetishization of multiculturalism you are so worried about is at least partially a consequence of this americanization, everytime i hear a pro-multiculti argument that might have some ground in America applied to an european country ("We were always a nation of immigrants", "There so such thing as a native X" etc.) i cringe hard

So there you have it, if i said this in /pol/ everyone would probably freak out and screetch something about "D&C shill", but i don't care anymore, i grew past that, if you asked me to sum it up very briefly and simplisticly, i would say that the decay of european culture and institutions is determined by its constant struggle to try to resemble more and more the United States of America, a way of life that is alien and and unnatural to us, but having our minds more and more poisoned by shallow pop culture and trashy Hollywood movies we find it harder and harder to see

That is of course if we truly want to find a specific country or group of people to blame. Otherwise i'd be just as glad to blame it all on the sole ideology of the enlightenment and its thinkers, which i do recognize with sadness were all europeans, and all that descended from it, and consider the american people just as much of a victim as the europeans, only unable to see it for lack of history prior to that period

>>1183

Ugh

Anon, i do understand OP was kind of abrasive, but using Wikipedia as a rebuttal is probably not the best way to go about it

If you're truly interested in this topic i suggest you read 200 Years Together by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, which despite what you may have heard from either side is actually a very fair and balanced report on the topic

>>1188

Wikipedia isn't the actual source. It summarises academic sources. Opposition to wikipedia is often the last refuge of a beaten man who doesn't want to acknowledge how fringe and unsupportable his view is

>>1228

this

>>1228

Wikipedia is notoriously a questionable source especially when it comes down to controversial articles due to unqualified editors, the sources used and how they are reported are entirely up to the editor's bias

Secondly, i don't see how that description of a "beaten man" applies to me in this thread, where was i "beaten" and in regards to what? we didn't even have an argument, i simply pointed out to you a more deep source if you truly are interested in what you were talking about

You're of course completely free to ignore that source and label it as "fringe and unsupportable" without having even read it, however one may point out the irony in the fact that in modern society many people would have the same reaction when you talk to them about monarchy

>>1228

wikipedia can also be actual source at its own