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Ya'll need Mises.

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 No.97895

Should people have to pay for water?

 No.97897

If the alternative is theft, yes. You are not entitled to the service that the water company provides without some agreed exchange.

If you mean water harvesting, no you shouldn't have to pay. There are governments that fine you for collecting rainwater on your own roof, and that's just retarded


 No.97901

>>97895

>Should people have to pay for water?

What did you mean by this


 No.97911

>>97897

> There are governments that fine you for collecting rainwater on your own roof

Holy shit, that's completely absurd. Source?


 No.97914

>>97911

If you live anywhere west of Missouri, the utilities companies are almost all government-ran and water is a scarce material. Even though only like 1% of runoff ends up in reservoirs, water rights are serious business out here and you can face some hefty damages if you collect water. Thank god enough people have complained for enough years with the science to back it up that the public is forcing votes in many cities to allow collection of rainwater up to 50 gallon drums where the state legislature and such refuses to act since they get tax revenue from the utility "companies."


 No.97916

>>97914

Ridiculous. It doesn't even make sense since it just goes to waste, but I guess that's how you create a problem to sell the solution.


 No.97918

>>97916

>that's how you create a problem to sell the solution

And now you know how government works.


 No.97924

>>97895

depends


 No.97942

>>97918

I know, its just that they don't even feel the need to make up beliavable excuses anymore that amuses me


 No.97945

>>97895

If they want to get it from the owner, they don't have usufruct, and the owner wants to get paid for it, then yes.


 No.97963

>>97901

I think this is a lowkey response to the thread about the commie worrying about the water usage of avocados.


 No.97990

>>97895

If it's very scarce and needed for survival, then no


 No.97992

>Should people have to pay for water?

"Should people have to pay for ____" always comes down to three simple questions.

1: Is the ____ you're taking somebody else's product?

>yes

2: Is the ____ you're taking a resource from somebody else's land?

>yes

3: Is the ____ you're taking a finite good that would be noticed if mysteriously missing?

>yes

If you want it without paying, ask nicely. People get shot over tampering with streams. Filling a canteen is a different story but the average "I don't wanna pay for stuff" kid probably isn't going hiking any time soon.


 No.98009

Nothing is free thus people can not have rights to free stuff.


 No.98035

>>97992

Hmm. Water flunks two out of three and I don't believe in land.


 No.98063

>>97990

i dont think it is very scarce


 No.98068

>>98063

I think the better argument is that if it was very scarce then it DEFINITELY should require payment.




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