/liberty/ - Liberty

/liberty/ btfo

Please point me to some wonderous chinknology that the chinks invent by themselves.

inb4 gunpowder, european improve that

>>96329

that's OP's point, the chinese have improved snownigger technology by magnitudes without the free market

>>96331

Which technology in particular?

>>96332

semiconductors, quantum technology, gene editing, engineering patents etc. also manufacturing the same product for a fraction of the cost counts, because that's a measure of superior efficiency.

>>96337

>no true scotman with copious amount of screeching

So are you admitting IP is real property or are you just a hypocrite butthurt that the Chinese beat us at our own game?

>>96333

All of these are invented and improved in the West.

Gene editing in this case is a particular where motherfucking marxist/moralist SJW come in and screech and that's why the tech cannot advance in the West.

Of course no such thing exist in China so they can test on their lab rat.

>>96340

But where have they beat us in our own game?

They make a shitload of cheap crap by exploiting their bug people.

You think that's good?

>>96342

false, keep up to date with the news some time

>>96343

cheaper for the same quality at every western equivalent price point, that's indicative of superior production. exploitation is a subjective interpretation of labor allocation, if the chinese system of government utilizes people to better efficiency than the west using the same voluntary employment, either western society has lost, or whites are biologically inferior

>>96345

Bullshit, they are simply cheaper because CHEAP ASS WAGE.

Even the commies admit this.

They pay the bug in China, Vietnam and Bangladesh shit, anon, and the quality of goods even differ by regions (same produce, made by same chinese factories, but the european export IS better than the south east asian export).

>>96346

it's cheaper because their manufacturing tech is superior. as I said, keep up with the news some time.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2017/08/16/china-wage-levels-equal-to-or-surpass-parts-of-europe/#5f80e98d3e7f

https://www.forbes.com/sites/douglasbulloch/2017/03/03/china-is-running-out-of-cheap-rural-labor-and-its-because-of-failed-reforms/#5bb301fd25c6

>>96347

>China's median monthly wages in Shanghai ($1,135), Beijing ($983) and Shenzen ($938) are higher than they are in the newest European Union member, Croatia. Croatia's median net salary is $887 a month. They joined the EU in 2013.

NOT LABORER'S WAGE.

This is NOT LABORER'S WAGE.

>>96349

the median is a statistical measure that identifies the middle value in a dataset. when the majority working class are in the bottom 70% of a population, you can bet the guy at the 50% spot is a laborer

>>96350

Then I cast doubt upon that assessment.

>implying ancaps are against IP

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>>96353

>the Chinese somehow manage to have a housing surplus and shortage at the same time

It's the second largest country by area, 1/7th the world's population, with widely varying geography and local provincial government, why hold it to that any more than the property scarcity difference between New York and Wyoming?

>If you put bomb collars

employment is completely voluntary and non coercive at the manufacturing labor level, yet they still outperform

>that pic

overproduction is part and parcel of manufacturing, the scale of that pic reflects the obviously high economic throughput going on there. don't forget you fags were spamming pink wojaks after your monopoly money crashed.

>>96360

>why hold it to that any more than the property scarcity difference between New York and Wyoming?

Because there are ghost city there, where they build up fake houses that NO ONE, NO ONE LIVE in.

>employment is completely voluntary and non coercive at the manufacturing labor level, yet they still outperform

LOL, because it's actually true in China that if you don't work, you die. The land is too polluted to farm and live by yourself.

>overproduction is part and parcel of manufacturing, the scale of that pic reflects the obviously high economic throughput going on there.

Just like their homeless city am I right?

>>96326

>white people are bad because

Stop writing in the white man's language. You don't deserve to express yourself you stinking, filthy foreigner. Nothing you say matters, nothing you say is relevant, all you do is complain about whites and let memes colonize your gay little brain. Take it elsewhere.

fraud is not a crime in china

if you are reffering to china, as a country doing better then a western one

>bugman product quality is the lowest of low partly because of no fraud

>bugmen fry their food in oil they take from the sewer

>bugmen cannot see the sun or breath the air

>bugmen more or less do not have rights as we know them

>bugmen cannot even browse this board

>china has a fuckhuge population but still struggles to be relevant militarily or in any way

but I dont particularly CARE about how one tyrant competes against a slightly less tyrannical tyrant honestly

if you are referring to a chinese businessman competeing with a western businessman, the bugman cheats and lives parasitically, he is protected from the consequences of his actions quite thoroughly by deceit and state force, here is how the chain goes

>everyone knows chinashit is absolute dogshit and not even worth the pennies it cost

>US business buys chinashit knowing this, but with a garuntee that its great

>ships out faulty defective things made by child slaves into a market with stuff like minimum wages

>they sell it JUST UNDER what normal shit should cost, so at a 6000% markup what they payed for it including shipping

>when everyone gets poisoned, they point to their own guarantee "not my fault" that they acquired knowing everything would fail

>the bugman faces no punishment, or might not even exist

it is not competition, but state backed cooperation of fraudsters to sell tin cobbled together by slaves as if it were steel made normally

so to say that bugmen are better at accumulating wealth then westerners is to ignore that most of the wealth they do accumulate is only by co-operation with criminals from the west

>>96326

strawman

>>96369

>Nothing you say matters, nothing you say is relevant

Matters enough to get your panties in a twist. People don't speak anglo smegskin by choice idiot, it's because you retards can't understand more than one language, often times not even one other smegspeak, such that the only way to take a big steaming shit on you guys and let you know about it is to beat you down with your own primitive chatter. All the while you're oblivious to all the shit you're getting in better tongues on thousands of fora round the world.

>>96377

Stay enslaved, chinkshit. You'll never get to a white man's level.

>>96384

Keep assuring yourself, that'll certainly help you when you'll be serving one of us after your allowed internet time is over.

>>96390

Keep dreaming, chink bloat. That's all you can ever do.

>>96363

https://www.richardvanhooijdonk.com/en/blog/the-truth-about-chinas-futuristic-ghost-cities/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2018/03/19/ghost-towns-or-boomtowns-what-new-cities-really-become/#71b1074e5e3f

Ghost cities are a myth, elsewhere in the world they build suburbs for housing, in China, it's entire cities, this proves their superior infrastructure. It can take years for a housing development project to payoff, the fact that whole cities are filling up after being built in less than a decade, is testament to superior city planning.

>if you don't work, you die

I thought this was an ancap board, you sound like a commie, or a hypocrite

>>96371

ah yes, the the typical ancap hypocrite. let me ask you again, do you believe in ip? because apparently your greentext implies whitoid ancaps suddenly give a shit about food regulation, environmental policy (front page thread right now shitting on environmentalism), military industrial strongarming, and fraud now. aren't less laws supposed to ancap paradise?

also, the retarded white ancap suddenly abandons the supply and demand credo he holds as gospel, apparently chinese market domination isn't a sign of quality, because the ancap suddenly stops believe in market competition, by which consumers naturally gravitate towards superior products (chinese) at every price point.

>>96383

when ancapistan kikes steal ip and sell it as their own it's progress and freedom, when the chinese fully emulate ancap ideals suddenly ip matters. you're arguing against this notion is literally arguing against this board's ideals.

The fact that other countries can ignore our arbitrary rules and profit against us is exactly why we shouldn't have them you brainlet

>>96400

Then why get upset when they do it? Getting upset, exhibiting outrage, is just alluding to the fact that you innately believe there is some kind of injustice going on, an injustice the NAP should address

>>96401

>Takes cigar out of mouth

>Well, you see, what you really mean is that you want to fuck your daughter

>>96405

Nice projection, it seems you're the one who's braindead, the thread's basic premise is that you can't deride China for IP theft and be against IP, looks like you just mouth off with no clue what you reply to.

>it doesn't change the fact that his attempted rip-off of a western technology is always going to turn out to be a giant fucking joke because all he's really trying to do is scam someone who genuinely doesn't know better

well guess what, if it applies to the chinese, it applies to ancapistan, you obviously see no merit in ip theft but the formation of bootlegs and scams, so you effectively make a case for IP because you only bring negatives to the table

>like how you can't successfully make a post that's actually constructive in any manner.

you're mistaken to think I had any intention of warmly giving you deluded idiot hypocrites the time of day

>>96397

>Ghost cities are a myth

>Elsewhere in the world they build suburbs for housing.

Well, yes, people construct properties in places where they expect to turn an actual profit. China's housing market, on the other hand…

>The fact that whole cities are filling up after being built in less than a decade is testament to superior city planning

Oh, they're filling up alright, but not due to individuals acting voluntarily.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-10/nightmare-scenario-beijing-50-million-chinese-apartments-are-empty

>China has a 22.4% (almost a quarter) housing vacancy rate, which is twice the amount for most developed nations.

>Mortgage loans have grown 8-fold in the past decade.

>Over 200 cities across China have been buying surplus apartments from property developers and moving in families from condemned city blocks and nearby villages.

Superior city planning indeed.

>Homebuyers revolt when prices dip.

Yeah, gee, I wonder why Xi Jinping made himself emperor.

>>96398

This seems to be a common theme with you. Someone tells you one thing and you construe it to mean something else. "You meant to say this, which implies…"

Pointing out poor quality of food does not imply that we are advocating for increased food regulation; you are imposing your own views on the matter. In a free market not as ridden with state market intervention, nepotism, and corrupt regulators as China's, market mechanisms would solve these problems on their own–firstly by increasing the general wealth of society, and secondly by increasing societal trust because you aren't constantly being spied on by devices that track your "social credit" and wrung through bureaucratic systems where bribery and nepotism are the expected status quo.

The one purely economic advantage Chinese companies do have over ours, aside from state protection, comes from the fact that we have too many restrictive labor laws that dramatically increase the cost and overhead of doing business (i.e. compulsory health insurance, minimum wage). You know what the minimum wage in Sweden is? 0.

>>96406

>You effectively make a case for IP

Hey, look, you did it again! You should take some reading classes.

>That's not to say my argument is that a Chinese man doesn't have the right to make a shitty bootlegged version of a mac or a Windows OS. He can do so to his hearts content

Where in there does he "effectively make a case for IP"? There is a distinction between someone having the right to do something and that thing actually being effective.

>>96408

Chinese citizens use real estate as a store of value, property vacancy is the combined effect of houses being built for purchase like items in a store, and the fact that 2 of a family's 3 homes are stores of value.

>This seems to be a common theme with you. Someone tells you one thing and you construe it to mean something else

everything was correctly interpreted. the ancap policy for food regulation is consumer choice (don't trust it don't eat it), currently implemented in china for gutter oil (gutter oil will be present in ancapistan, don't trust it don't eat it). ancap policy for environmentalism is consumer boycott (if people really care for the environment they'll boycott polluters, else it doesn't matter), currently implemented in china (consumers can boycott polluters), ancap policy for government military is to not support it, yet the post prided a strong military. fraud is an extension of IP laws, lack of fraud protection is an ancap ideal. For all intents and purposes, China scratches /liberty/'s itch, but the board flips things on it's side when China comes round.

>In a free market not as ridden with state market intervention, nepotism, and corrupt regulators as China's, market mechanisms would solve these problems on their own

except ancapitalism isn't this socialist progression of stages, it is ancapistan once in place. the progress of consumer regulation will have mistakes, accidents and incidents will happen before the market reacts, you want to see the ills of china as apart from ancapistan, but their unregulated aspects simulate market reaction. the chinese toxic milk powder scandal harmed some infants, but the result was that chinese people resorted to buying foreign milk formula, this consumer correction is part and parcel of what would happen in ancapistan. When you blame the Chinese for the incident, you are basically criticising ancap philosophy, because a similar food scandal incident in ancapistan would be corrected in the same way.

>Where in there does he "effectively make a case for IP"?

His case is loud and clear: "the chinese make bootlegs and scams when there's no IP regulations, they do not improve existing technologies". The current scenario in China is effectively the ancap ideal. Effectively he's saying that there'll be bootlegs and scams in ancapistan. So I ask him to clarify why that justifies his view that IP doesn't exist, because the current argument on the table is that IP only brings negatives.

>>96410

*So I ask him to clarify why that justifies his view that IP shouldn't exist, because the current argument on the table is that lack of IP only brings negatives.

>>96401

Who have you seen frothing about this?

Have you ever listened to a Tom Woods podcast? Libertarianism is all about figuring all the nuances of economics, almost to an obnoxious degree

>>96412

They're in this very thread

>>96413

You can't bring the argument, face your opposition, then complain that your opponent is only overemotional even if correct

>>96326

>implying I give a shit if Chinks out-capitalism the U.S..

>implying I think more capitalism is a bad thing

>>96410

Chinese cities buying apartments has been propping up real estate prices artificially. Where does your "store of value" go when the jig is up? Every single time the housing market dips a little people go nuts and start throwing rocks at real estate offices.

Also, did you watch the video you posted? Houses will not have value if they are

>literally concrete walls

and collapse within a few decades (also it doesn't help that the state is the one that actually owns all the land and can revoke your lease at any time), and the only reason Chinese people use this in spite of all its shortcomings as a store of value is because everything else is, thanks to the magic of the state, somehow a worse alternative.

>the ancap policy for food regulation is consumer choice etc

The other half of that is the supplier side. The success of a supplier should depend on revenue it gets from consumers and not how much Communist Party ass it kisses, or how much the Communist Party decides it likes/needs an industry to survive/die. Because in a free market there is no municipal government to keep buying your apartments and moving people into them involuntarily for no fucking reason other than to create the illusion of economic growth. In a free market it is harder to bribe state officials into arresting people, suppressing news stories about milk powder killing babies (you only really fail colluding with the Communists if you get caught in such a public manner that it's impossible to suppress), cutting off trade via customs, collecting on your social credit, or forced evictions because there is no state and normal people do not have that power or are less inclined to use it due to the profit incentive and the NAP.

A similar food scandal incident in ancapistan would be less likely to occur firstly because people aren't going to be relying on a zombified, centralized food regulatory agency with state authority (that ends up being bribed anyways), and secondly because the company isn't capable of suppressing media attention to adulterating milk powder with toxic chemicals. Also it would be much easier for domestic producers of a higher-quality product to step in rather than for the Chinese to end up importing all their milk.

>>96411

>The current argument on the table is that lack of IP only brings negatives.

He is only stating that the Chinese would not be able to abuse the absence of IP protections in ancapistan effectively. This is not the same thing as lack of IP being a negative in general, and it is nowhere near remotely implying that IP should exist.

>>96428

>propping up real estate prices artificially

>Also, did you watch the video you posted?

Now you're going off tangent. The purpose of the video and related points is to establish that ghost cities are a myth, which they have, the property is being bought, the cities are filling up. That the property is a less persistent store of value than foreign property and can be overturned by the government is irrelevant, as the situation is the same elsewhere, only with fiat currency in banks (government devalues at a whim via inflation and diversion). One could say it's commendable that market forces driven by unscrupulous chinese fiat stores of value have created a superior value storage than the west, as the store of value is tied to something physical.

>moving people into them involuntarily

this is an assumption on your part

>A similar food scandal incident in ancapistan would be less likely to occur firstly because people aren't going to be relying on a zombified, centralized food regulatory agency with state authority

There is nothing stopping the formation of private food regulatory agencies from existing in China. And as UL standards have proven, the existence of private regulatory agencies does not stop consumers from purchasing unregulated items, people rush to snap up cheap gadgets off Amazon without UL certification all the time.

>the company isn't capable of suppressing media attention to adulterating milk powder with toxic chemicals

you are greatly overestimating the censorship in the formula incident, it was officially acknowledged by the state and allowed notice in the news, but truncated from taking up headlines. the companies were completely under fire from the government. The incident is an ideal simulation of ancapistan, as the consumer tendency to prize lowest price over private regulatory safety, and the sufficient and widespread transfer of consumer information in this event, led to the predicted outcome (consumer boycott). Criticism of the incident is criticism of ancapistan

>He is only stating that the Chinese would not be able to abuse the absence of IP protections in ancapistan effectively.

Completely false. Nothing in his quote implies that whatsoever. He explicitly mentions that IP will be abused for scams and there's nothing wrong with that. If the only outcome of lack of IP he presents in ancapistan is scams, a far cry from improvement, I am justified to push him on why that makes the absence of IP justified.

>>96398

I never mentioned any sort of regulations, just simply the quality of life for the bugmen as a metric for how well the country does

as for supply and demand, the chinese are not competing within a free market, they are collaborating with state forces to produce things in one of the cheapest closed markets to do so in, and then sell them in another closed market that happens to be the most expensive to buy things in

its a RACKET, and often its also FRAUD

>let me ask you again, do you believe in IP

no, and nothing in my only post even mentions IP, this is completely irrelevant

>abandons the supply and demand credo

no, chinese corperations do not in fact rely on supply and demand to make money you are correct, there is demand for something and they ship out literal turds (made with state backed slave labor), and dodge the consequences thereof with protection of the state

>>96447

eat shit hypocrite, if your dumb fuck philosophy is perfectly simulated in china, yet you use typical commie arguments to bash both the ancap and statist parts of china indiscriminately, then it just shows that you don't give a fuck about ancapitalism, you're just a retarded larper without the balls to get on /pol/

>>96446

> the quality of life for the bugmen as a metric for how well the country does

they don't have free speech or gun rights, but half the things you mentioned such as consumer choice and optional clean environmental conditions pan out exactly as they would in ancapistan, these are your ideals.

>they are collaborating with state forces to produce things in one of the cheapest closed markets to do so in, and then sell them in another closed market that happens to be the most expensive to buy things in

if the voluntary, supply and demand fueled trade with the us, something you guys love to tout as "capitalism bringing china out of poverty", is suddenly not muh real capitulism, then what the hell is the point in any argument for capitalism. you tout the statist regulated western economy as superior to soviet bloc planned economy, failing to realise that the chinese economy is practically equivalent on the scale of economic freedom

>no, and nothing in my only post even mentions IP, this is completely irrelevant

what a hypocrite, most fraud is a direct result of lack of ip enforcement.

>chinese corperations do not in fact rely on supply and demand to make money

if people are buying something, there is supply and demand, you retard

>literal turds (made with state backed slave labor)

literal turds that are in high demand in every single country, using the same voluntary employment practiced globally. nice dumb commie argument accusing employment of being slavery. also if china produces shit, says a lot more about the people rushing to buy that stuff like hot cakes. you cannot deny supply and demand.

>>96448

>if your dumb fuck philosophy is perfectly simulated in china

Keep repeating that, commie. You'll surely make someone believe it.

>both the ancap and statist parts of china

Are you retarded?

>balls to get on /pol/

You outed yourself, chonkaboo. Go back to shilling bugmanism on /pol/.

>>96450

yeah, apparently /pol/ is full of chinese larpers instead of daily lolbert shitting threads. keep using those commie arguments you dumbfuck hypocrite, not like china isn't both ancap and commie paradise, but your two brain cells will keep screeching about it any way

>>96449

>half the things you mentioned such as consumer choice and optional clean environmental conditions pan out exactly as they would in ancapistan

>these are your ideals

You are literally arguing exclusively with your ow strawman created by your ill twisted perception.

>chinese economy is practically equivalent on the scale of economic freedom

Toppest of keks

>most fraud is a direct result of lack of ip enforcement

You're not making arguments here, just repeating empty and baseless assumptions over and over.

>if people are buying something, there is supply and demand

So i guess USSR did have market economy, right? People are buying something so it surely is! Retard.

>literal turds that are in high demand in every single country

Nope, keep twisting words, commie. Products are in high demand, while chinks are only capable of producing and creating turds so they have to disguise them as goods.

>commie argument accusing employment of being slavery

Only you are implying that here, chink

>if china produces shit, says a lot more about the people rushing to buy that stuff like hot cakes

>If i'm retarded and am pointed out then you're even stupider than i am

lel

>>96451

>keep using those commie arguments

Really ironic when one gets what you're doing here

>not like china isn't both ancap and commie paradise

Man, you're really keen on doubling down every time.

>>96452

>s-strawman

>nu-uh!

Great demonstration of the typical moment when the ancap hypocrite deflects all the valid points once his argument gets destroyed. I'll address your two attempts at a counterpoint.

>So i guess USSR did have market economy, right?

You're a complete and utter retard if you think China doesn't have a proper market economy for consumer goods. China has one of the lowest number of sanctions and tariffs on foreign trade globally prior to the trade war. It's freer on the scale than most of the world economically.

> Products are in high demand,

> creating turds so they have to disguise them as goods.

Great job calling yourself a dumbfuck who voluntarily buys shit. Supply and demand, if China wasn't selling superior products to the world at the best price point, no one would be buying. The fact that every single country turns to them for stuff means their products beat out the rest. If they're selling shit, then you're buying and eating shit, and you've been doing so for years.

>>96453

>all the valid points

How'd you know? You didn't have any.

>his argument gets destroyed

I've only ridiculed your idiotic blabbery. Where did you find an argument here?

>You're a complete and utter retard if you think China doesn't have a proper market economy for consumer goods

Nice argument, fanatic. How do chinks train animals like you? It takes a different degree of retard to make such faithful prophet.

>China has one of the lowest number of sanctions and tariffs on foreign trade globally prior to the trade war

>on foreign trade

Great, now chinks can get explioted even more. Good job, chink! You get another bowl or rice this month.

>China has … prior to the trade war

So, does it now? I'd say that your grammar is such a failure on purpose but i won't give chink shill that much credibility.

> It's freer on the scale than most of the world economically.

Top kek, keep going. Tell me more about communism too, that one was the most funny.

>if China wasn't selling superior products to the world at the best price point

Again, you won't find one superior chink product and even the ones that are only made by this scum and directed by whites is bad.

>The fact that every single country turns to them for stuff means their products beat out the rest

If anything, it really means that chink labor is so much more expendable than anyone else's. Of course that is because of the chink communist government that uses them even more than whites do.

>If they're selling shit, then you're buying and eating shit

Except i don't. Unlike chinks that only have chink junk, i've got access to quality products that followed proper quality control and do not contain chink cancer in them.

>>96457

>chink

>chink

>chink

trying to sound like one are you? imagine getting so assblasted over losing an argument that you split up one quote into multiple reply lines just to get chink insults in at at the wrong race.

>I'd say that your grammar is such a failure

the fact that you're an obvious ESL from some eurotrash country, and your grammar is easily worse than the chinese fobs you screech about makes this especially hilarious. like those indians that claim they speak better english than brits.

>you won't find one superior chink product

keyword is at the same price point, every single foreign component has an equivalent that's 20-50% cheaper built in china, at the higher end product categories brand names and luxury reputation take over, but for the same price you'd get two chinese products with equal performance. a clear indication that chinese build quality is superior for the cost

> i've got access to quality products that followed proper quality control

products made from subcomponents or equipment sourced from china, using quality control likely outsourced to china. even the 100% made in america or whichever euro shithole you came from products cop out by implementing china at some stage in manufacturing

> explioted even more

>means that chink labor is so much more expendable than anyone else's

this is commiespeak. equating voluntary employment to slavery and exploitation is commiespeak. with all that hypocritical whining about superior capitalist work efficiency, you should go back to >>>/leftypol/

>>96458

>getting so assblasted over losing an argument

Hey projection

>split up one quote

You know what a quote is, right? Filthy illiterate chink.

>eurotrash country

Not for chinks to judge.

>your grammar is easily worse

Nice damage control right here. You're really trying. Too bad you were born chinese.

>every single foreign component has an equivalent that's 20-50% cheaper built in china

Blindly copied trash with no attention to quality is hardly an "equivalent", no matter how many times you repeat the opposite.

>brand names and luxury reputation take over

So you agree that chink trash can't hope to achieve any positive reputation or quality? Good job, you might get cured one day.

>a clear indication that chinese build quality is superior for the cost

More like it almost doesn't have cost.

>equating voluntary employment to slavery

You just can't help but put words in people's mouths, don't you?

>exploitation

I was referring to chinks breeding like bacteria and their government keeping them contained and their relations weak and unreliable so they can control them and have a niche of products to sell and live off of at the cost of chink lives. I'm actually happy with the way chinks die to supply the lowest of whites with disposable goods, if that trash can be called that way.

>with all that hypocritical whining about superior capitalist work efficiency

Hey, are you talking to someone else as well? Cause you really do look like someone who needs help with those imaginary people whose positions you keep attacking.

>>96459

confirmed eurotrash, lmao. let me guess, if I push you a bit more you'll let slip that you're not actually white. why'd you halve the number of times you called me chink? finally realizing in that small brain of yours that someone needs to actually be chinese to be called a chink? are you going to call me a nigger in your next autistic tirade?

>Blindly copied trash

I see, you're calling the products shit because you know they're based off shitty third world euro designs. I thought ancaps didn't believe in IP, why are you complaining when they steal IP as will happen in ancapistan?

>So you agree that chink trash can't hope to achieve any positive reputation or quality?

You're even more retarded than I thought. Let me guess, you think iPhones and Dr Dre Beats have a superior quality because they're expensive too huh? It's this blatant low iq materialism, that tricks retards into buying "America only" or "Fair Trade Certified", thereby overpaying for shitty overpriced products.

>I'm actually happy with the way chinks die to supply the lowest of whites with disposable goods, if that trash can be called that way.

Looks like the commie larping as an ancap needs another lesson on economics. Trade is not zero sum, every transaction is mutually beneficial. Good that you admit you're actually China's bitch, hooked on their superior products even as you bitch on an anonymous internet forum.

>>96326

Chinese using western technology is the free market.

>>96460

>why are you complaining when they steal IP as will happen in ancapistan?

Pointing out that the copied shit is low quality is not the same thing as saying copying IP should be illegal. If anything it's saying the opposite–that there's no need for copyright protectionism because the chink's inability to use the "stolen" IP on the market is a self-regulating endeavor. Are you even reading the posts to which you respond?

>>96471

you're just contradicting yourself again, if nothing good comes out of lack of IP due to inability to capitalize on it, thereby shooting down core ancap tenets on proposed benefits of such a system, then that just means the existence of IP is justified

>>96473

So your answer is, "No, I don't read posts before responding to them."

>if nothing good comes out of lack of IP

I just said the opposite of that you doublenigger, learn to read.

>>96474

you did not mention a single advantage to lack of IP, only that no progress will come about. are all ancaps hypocrites with no self awareness?

>>96475

All I see from you is vehement, incoherent irritation. Are you projecting your own issues with hypocrisy? We all can plainly see you're a lunatic who hates whites, or someone who sympathizes with lunatics who hate whites. Is that all this is? You see this as a white people thing? Or do you have some kind of "Black Ancap" bullshit and it makes you mad that it's irrelevant and retarded?

>>96476

>irritation

straight up projection from the side frothing at the mouth, screaming chink and death threats more than giving any coherent rebuttals

>calling me a nigger

And there it is! Do you know what's the greatest threat to the white race? Lolbert hypocrisy. You'd think you'd get your retard ideology in check before pulling divide and conquer bullshit that gives lefties pluralities in elections

>>96477

you said absolutely nothing of which. are you merely pretending to be literate?

>>96460

>you're not actually white

Weren't whites the lowest lifeform for you just now?

>why'd you halve the number of times you called me chink?

I'm not so desperate to count the number of insults directed at me, unlike you, chink.

>are you going to call me a nigger in your next autistic tirade?

Who said you can't be both? It won't harm chink genes anyway.

>you're calling the products shit because you know they're based off shitty third world euro designs

Lol, you're trying too hard to attack the opposite of what i said. The junk chinks produce is so bad even the fact that they copied good designs can't help it.

>third world euro

You should read what third world means, chink.

>why are you complaining when they steal IP

I don't, learn to read. I was just pointing out that chinks are incapable of creativity and can only copy the work of superior beings.

>as will happen in ancapistan?

China is not ancapistan and has almost nothing to do with it, you know. You false equivalency was getting old many posts before, not it's like i'm arguing with a deaf person, except chinks aren't persons.

>Let me guess, you think iPhones and Dr Dre Beats have a superior quality because they're expensive too huh?

Nicely dodged an argument, chink. It's not like iPhones are made in china and Beats are something chinks will never be able to create.

>It's this blatant low iq materialism

Golden, coming from a chink. I'll write it next to "not like china isn't both ancap and commie paradise".

>overpaying for shitty overpriced products

So you disagree with chinks doing that?

>Trade is not zero sum, every transaction is mutually beneficial

So messing with incentives and theft is too, now? You seem to have missed that part when reading an overview of Austrian economics. Convenient, isn't it?

>you admit you're actually China's bitch

How do you manage to reply to people's posts without actually reading them? Is there some chink bureau where the most blind, deaf and retarded chinks are collected to argue on the internet in turns? I literally have written that i, unlike chinks, have access to non-chink goods.

>superior products

Again, you can repeat it any more times, it won't make the statement true. I'll just copypaste this phrase every time you try to imply that chinks are capable of producing anything of quality.

>you bitch on an anonymous internet forum

What are you doing here? It seems like you're the one bitching here about how these pesky ancaps don't orgasm over china.

>>96483

>screaming chink

Why are you so butthurt when being called out if you think that chinks are the superior race?

>death threats

Where did you find those? Are one of the communist kinds that treat one's existence as aggression?

>hypocrisy

The only contradictions that were in this thread have been the ones between your projection and refutations of your very blatant ans straightforward strawmen. I wonder, would you argue with these "hypocritical lolberts" if you were locked in an empty padded room? Do you think they pursue you, maybe?

>ou'd think you'd get your retard ideology in check before pulling divide and conquer bullshit that gives lefties pluralities in elections

You know, that's not /pol/ so your assumptions don't really make any sense, even in context of you propagandist sperging.

>>96484

>NO YOU DIDN'T I DIDN'T HEAR IT< YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT< YOU LOVE CHINA BECAUSE IT'S ANCAPISTAN, STOP LYING HYPOCRITE

That's how you sound

>>96485

kek, you're not even arguing anymore, just sperging out. it's pitiful.

>Weren't whites the lowest lifeform for you just now?

confirmed non white eurotrash. being white's not much for most, but for a delusional white worshiping immigrant like you, even being implied to be non white is the gravest insult, as demonstrated by your essay of asshurt.

>pesky ancaps don't orgasm over china.

real ancaps love china, it's brutal and efficient, practically ancapistan once the gov gets toppled. /pol/lack rejects like you bitch about it because you fear the chinese will stomp you down in ethnostate fashion, just like /pol/ did. sorry you weren't white enough for /pol/, shitskin.

>>96486

>butthurt

real shame your low iq brain struggles to process insults. I'm not reeling from getting called chink, I'm mocking you for trying so hard. it's like you're screaming poo in the loo and street shitter jokes at a white guy. he's not going to get offended, but you look like a retard.

>strawmen

Good job, Mr ESL trash, you finally figured out the noun for what you were trying to accuse me of. Unfortunately for you, I've made completely accurate arguments, while you've been chimping out in response.

>That's how you sound

The fag couldn't even defend his IP stance. Said it himself that things will be shit without IP and left.

>>96489

>you're not even arguing anymore, just sperging out

Do you?

>confirmed non white eurotrash

Imagining things again?

>real ancaps love china

Wew, and we didn't know. Goes into the meme material compilation.

>/pol/lack rejects like you

It was you who came from /pol/ here, don't forget.

>you fear the chinese

Keep projecting.

>you weren't white enough for /pol/

I never asked to join them in the first place, unlike you, projecting chink.

>>96490

>I'm not reeling from getting called chink

But you are.

>at a white guy

But a white guy would never feel anything but disdain for chinks, and you are repeatedly showing you're nothing but a chink propagandist.

>I've made completely accurate arguments

Do you believe in that yourself?

>his IP stance

He was repeatedly telling you the opposite of what you were trying to hang on him.

>Said it himself that things will be shit without IP

Quote him, schizo.

>>96494

>It was you who came from /pol/ here

to shit on ancaps, as is tradition. I'd say this was a success, considering you've been thoroughly shat on.

>white guy would never feel anything but disdain for chinks

proof you're not actually white. funny how you didn't once deny the non white allegation, shitskin. this board really is majority kike.

>Quote him, schizo.

Nice shifting the burden of proof, you've got no right playing the strawman card

>>96495

>as is tradition

So you are a desperate /pol/ reject.

>you've been thoroughly shat on

You mean, you've been drowning yourself in all the shit you've created and attacked?

>you're not actually white

How'd you know and why'd you care? You've started this thread by shitting on whites and now try asslicking /pol/ and accusing me of not being the ebil scary thing.

>you didn't once deny the non white allegation

But i did, you just didn't manage to read it again.

>this board really is majority kike

Varg eco sperg, is that you? Are you so sad that you got shit you're trying to equate ancap and china now? That's hilarious.

>Nice shifting the burden of proof

You're the one who's accusing him of that. Quote his words with the post number.

>>96495

>you've got no right playing the strawman card

I've already told you that all the "hypocrisy" that you sperg so much about has been nothing but your own projection and has been rejected every time you tried to pull it off. Do you think that repeating the same failure over and over would work? Of course you do, that's the only way chinks do things.

>strawman card

Do you know what that word means?

>>96498

>has been rejected

that's called a deflection, it's when a point breaks your argument and unveils the hypocrisy of ancaps, so you cop out of answering it and have a mental break down blindly screaming slurs at the wrong race

>Do you know what that word means?

you certainly don't

>>96497

>So you are a desperate /pol/ reject.

no, /pol/ has a place for me, not for lolbert kikes

>Varg eco sperg, is that you?

with that long fragmented multiquoting ESL posting, I thought you were one of the autists from that thread.

>You're the one who's accusing him of that. Quote his words with the post number.

shifting the burden of proof again, do your own homework kiddo

>>96500

>it's when a point breaks your argument and unveils the hypocrisy of ancaps

His argument was exactly the opposite of what you're claiming. He deflected nothing, and you can't quote him because you're a lying kike.

>/pol/ has a place for me, not for lolbert kikes

You already outed yourself as unfit even for that containment board, that's why you came to cry here.

> long fragmented multiquoting

Really ironic, given how you intentionally try to misinterpret literally everything in this thread, as well as sperging something about hypocrisy simultaneously.

>shifting the burden of proof again

What burden of proof? You claimed he was saying that when he didn't. Quote him, stop running away. Why are you so scared of facing arguments you have to turn them inside out before you attack them?

>>96503

>His argument

heh, you're arguing in his stead because your argument was lost

>You already outed yourself as unfit even for that containment board,

nice projection m8, I'm posting there right now, meanwhile this AIDs infested dumpster of a board is your main echo chamber

>You claimed he was saying that when he didn't

I interpreted things perfectly, he backpedaled with a nuh-uh. you want to take his reigns, point out a single advantage to lack of ip.

>>96504

>you're arguing in his stead because your argument was lost

>I can't prove anything so you lose

Sure thing. Feel free to quote him.

>nice projection m

I'm here and don't have anything to do with /pol/, so you're wrong on this one.

>I'm posting there right now

Yet you remain /pol/ reject. How cute.

>I interpreted things perfectly

Kek

>he backpedaled with a nuh-uh

Quote him then, it's you who only repeats nuh-uh over and over now.

>point out a single advantage to lack of ip.

He already did, why are you ignoring his arguments so deliberately? Do you really have nothing to say against them? Come on, quote his points, don't run away now.

>>96505

>no counter argument

Back to deflection and limpwristed attempts to insult I see. The ancap proves himself a hypocritical brainlet once again.

>I'm here and don't have anything to do with /pol/

I never expected otherwise, ancaps lack the iq to make it on /pol/.

>>96508

>no counter argument

Glad you're accepting your position.

>I never expected otherwise

Aren't you sad to be rejected from such a nice place?

>ancaps lack the iq to make it on /pol/

Well, that goes into the meme compilation as well.

>>96509

>projecting his failure to pass the iq test to get into /pol/

you're the chink guy aren't you? the guy who spent hours typing essays creatively splicing in the word chink just to find out he got the race wrong and wasted his time? you do realize I'm actually posting on /pol/ right now, and you're only insulting ancaps like yourself that regularly get laughed off /pol/ right?

>>96510

that explains why these so called "ancaps" don't know a thing about ancapitalism and it's closest living equivalent china. apparently they don't have the iq to read or put in any form of human effort.

>>96511

>you're the chink guy aren't you?

Lel, backing down now, are you? You'd better keep ignoring arguments, you're better at that then damage control.

>he got the race wrong

You're a chink and will forever be a chink.

>wasted his time?

Your butthurt amuses me. I've never had this much fun even when debating commies, they struggle to come up with that shit.

>ancaps like yourself that regularly get laughed off /pol/

Keep dreaming, pussy, your devotion to /pol/ is quite charming, especially despite them rejecting you.

>>96512

>so called "ancaps" don't know a thing about ancapitalism

Welp, there goes another one.

>it's closest living equivalent china

Not pretending, btw.

>they don't have the iq to read or put in any form of human effort

AHAHAHA, man, i can't keep up. For someone who has mastered the inability to read and comprehend information to eject such pearls, that's truly wonderous. Keep going, a bit more and i'll agree with Dixie on the point of existence of God.

>>96515

>backing down now, are you?

Effort is not value, commie. I've fucked your argument up six sides over, leaving you a delusional mess blathering against multiple bogeymen, all your insults missing the mark.

>AHAHAHA, man, i can't keep up

You really can't, you're repeating the same stale insults, your grammar and spelling is getting worse. No doubt your blood pressure is through the roof, and you're halfway to punching out your phone screen. Let's see if I can add "made an ancap kill himself" to my list of achievements.

>>96514

you basically just said that there will be no ability to use stolen IP on the market, so I'll ask again, what benefit does lack of IP confer, if the central ancap tenet against IP is that stealing IP = progress.

>>96519

>Effort is not value

Where did that come from? Are you seeing things again?

> I've fucked your argument up six sides over

Maybe you post a quote at least once before fucking arguments over, sweetie?

>all your insults

I didn't even try to insult you, sometimes an accurate description does a better job.

>your grammar and spelling is getting worse

Feel free to quote my mistakes. I remember it started out with me pointing out your illiterate weaseling and your ass just can't calm down since then.

>No doubt your blood pressure is through the roof, and you're halfway to punching out your phone screen

Nice projection

>my list of achievements

Being anal slave is not an "achievement", /pol/ reject.

>>96520

>you basically just said

You can quote what he said, you know.

>I'll ask again

man, you really like acting dense. You're replying to the post where he explains it.

>stealing IP

So you are saying that chinks are petty thieves that can't do anything right? Pretty good progress, though you've still got far to go.

>>96521

>going through an autistic sperg out over being outed for being suicidally frustrated

>replying for other people's arguments

looks like I hit the mark. this ancap larper is going to pop a vein, maybe even blow his brains out with a shotgun.

>>96523

I guess you're incapable of distinguishing your dreams and reality. Maybe that's why you think china is so great.

>>96525

I was emulating the mindset of a proper ancap, who dreams of ancapistan, most closely implemented in modern china

>>96523

Still imagining things, huh.