/liberty/ - Liberty

Only men.

Nobody.

This is /liberty/. Only Kenyan albino nergoes with only one arm (the left one) and an eyepatch (over the right eye) named Monica Rothbard would have voting privileges in my ideal nation.

Whoever's holding the conch at the time.

>>92706

No one. But if I had to go with a state that has voting, I'd want one where you get more votes depending on such factors as military service, general education, property ownership and so on. A father of five who was wounded in war and then went on to get his PhD would then have seven votes or more, a semi-literate prostitute would have only one, at best. (I think you deserve an extra vote for being married, and for raising children, as that increases your stake in how well the state is run, and besides, we don't want to give a faggot like Keynes more votes than we have to, do we?)

Not that it's a good scheme, but it is much better than our current democracy, where said professor and the prostitute both have the same impact during an election.

As for whether women should vote, I see no problem with it if votes are unequal. If they decide to stay home more often instead of pursuing a career, and cannot enter the military (except, at most, in support roles), then you won't have the same problem we have now, or to a lesser degree. A women who owns property and has PhD will probably vote similar to a man in the same circumstances.

>>92743

Why not just auction off political offices?

>>92747

Well, plutocraty is still no good. Although I can see this auctioning working sometimes. If two comparably rich guys want to have an office, and neither is obviously too retarded for it, then you can just as well give it to the guy who is willing to pay more for it.

Alternatively, allocate no budget whatsoever, so that every politician must pay for his policies out of his own pocket. I didn't think that through, I just find the idea pretty funny.

>>92743

It goes without saying, but it's still very flawed, even if you do get the best electorate and even if they do make the best decisions, there is still never one good decision for everyone, and broad criteria like that don't take context and small details into account, like for example the woman being a widow and working as a prostitute to pay for her 5 children to survive, because socialism forces people to choose the best out of the worst decisions, and that's the only way to make decent money in the socialist shithole that she lives in.

>>92753

>Whore wahmen and her niglet children deserve a voice and special treatment because they're oppressed

Fuck off leftist.

The Working Class

>>92766

The moment you enter into government you relinquish any "working" status. The State does not work, nor do the people who get favors from it.

I actually like Starship Troopers vision. Where the government is mostly libertarian so it largely doesn't affect civilians. So only active members of the military/police can vote. All political offices have to be attained through service and would essentially be a form of military rank.

However, in our current political system in the USA every tax paying citizen should be able to vote. So that almost means no illegal immigrants can vote. Also I think if you immigrate here you shouldn't be able to vote right away. Possibly a two term wait, you have to pay into the system before you can abuse it type mentality. So that would be up an eight year wait.

>>92739

Well, you see how well THAT turned out

Who wants to shill integralism/civic nationalism on /fascist/ with me? BO approves but the users hate it

>>92870

>shilling CivNat

Even just as shitposting that sounds cancerous as fuck

>>92774

Beuracrats within a goverment are still working class since they earn a Wage / Salary through labor and do not profit from producuction in any way

I'm surprised I have to explain this to both Left and Right/post-Left Anarchists

>>92927

Read a book.

>>92736

/monarchy/ , so to speak.

>>92927

>Beuracrats within a goverment are still working class

Sure, if you include welfare queens as members of the working class

>>93014

Does it now? Try posting it on /b/ or /sudo/ or /asmr/ or /tv/…

>>92970

Not an Arguement

>>93004

We'll obviously an Anarchist will believe that any form of goverment Beuracratic position is unesscary and is not needed

But to someone who still believes in the idea of a state in the short term it is a Neccesity that the goverment has the ability to perform certain functions

>>92743

>(I think you deserve an extra vote for being married, and for raising children

Incentivizing marriage does not work. Just lo9ok at what it does to the military.

Women can't be trusted to vote. Neither can non-military men. Too much soy. My ideal society would be libertarian economics and social policies, with the exception of an abortion ban, highly discriminatory immigration polices, and only vets get to vote. The book Starship Troopers got alot of things right.

>>92706

The Pope would have absolute authority.

>>93232

That's how vets would become a ruling class, with any moron joining the military and destroying that country's capability for anything. Any form of democracy creates weakness. A Hoppean covenant would solve the immigration issue, and if abortion wouldn't already be banned in general in a free society (which I'm pretty sure it would), the same covenant would fix that as well.

>>93232

The problem with Starship Troopers is that it assumes the military would continue to be the military, with the same entrance requirements and duties at any point in time. But all that would happen in this instance is that the ruling politicians would lower requirements so that any idiot could get in (or better yet, so only the people who support them get in). We can see this shit happening to the US military as it's gotten politicized, and that's even without the implication of service being tied to the franchise. Democracy in any form is shit, trying to limit suffrage will, at best, just slow down the rot.

>>92706

Your mom.

>>92743

Almost every teacher is a leftist. Remember that.

>>92774

>goverment is ALWAYS evil

>goverment is not an organization that can be ruled by people, such as good men or kikes, but an EVIL ENTITY

>corporations are different tho

This is your mind on low-functioning autism.

>>93316

And that's the short version! There's also propriety ownership, military service, job, etc.

>>93317

>I don't know what incentives are or how they work, the post

>>93339

>ignoring all the other things

>>93341

>Corporations are forced to work through the market, they cannot do anything without consent.

I may as well stop reading there.

>>the end justifies the means

It does.

>>the good people in government aren't just using their good reputation to cover for all the other kikes

>good people are not actually good lol

>>it's different from a gang of bandits tho

It's no different from corporations. In your NPC mind corporations = good and Gubermin = bad with no logic behind it.

I know who put those anarchist rethorics in your head, but i'd like to know what media they used this time.

>anime

lmao every time

>>93388

Wait is Japan really that much of a free market economy? I thought they did some fuckery with their central bank.

>>92706

Anyone who willing to pay taxes which would be voluntary.

>>92743

Sounds like monarchy…on way to French revolution 2.0!

>>93413

> Japanese workers are slaves to their employers for life, the economy is dominated by multi-generational corporate oligarchs, and the country is enslaved to the world's largest debt-to-GDP ratio. It's why so many commit suicide or become NEETs.

Even worse, after the 90's crash finding stable job become harder so you to part time. Not to mention women can no longer be housewives at this current state and it's hard, if no impossible for married women after giving birth finding stable job

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