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 No.74914

Let's have a thread about democracy. If a group of patriotic libertarians somehow overthrows the dictator of their country in a coup and gives their people liberties, but the people were all rulecucks who voted for rules, then what's the point of giving them democracy? What's the point of giving people the freedom to vote if your country is full of communists, fascists and radical centrists who will vote against freedom? Isn't it better to force liberty onto them?

I know that this is a great heresy, but how else can we high IQ patricians expect the low IQ rabble to choose what's good for themselves if not by resorting to a libertarian God-Emperor to force them to be free? It's like expecting children to know what's good for the family and asking them to make all the important decisions in place of their parents.

 No.74918

>>74914

>If a group of patriotic libertarians somehow overthrows the dictator of their country

There's your mistake. If you want /liberty/ you don't overthrow, you secede and defend.


 No.74926

>>74914

>What's the point of giving people the freedom to vote

There is no freedom to vote. Voting is a power, not a freedom. It's taking control over the affairs of others, not over your own affairs.


 No.74927

>can we high IQ patricians expect the low IQ rabble to choose what's good for themselves

>we

you almost definitely are not high IQ

to actually answer your question, fuckem


 No.74929

>>74914

democracy is ok if it is voluntary


 No.74938

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>>74929

And when was it ever voluntary?


 No.75029

>>74938

plenty of times fam


 No.75038

>>74929

In private organizations sure. Because membership is purely voluntary and the leaders of the institution can choose who may participate. As a form of government, its shortcomings are fundamental. Even restricted democracy (by education or property ownership or what have you) has the same basic problems, they just take a bit longer to coalesce.


 No.75073

>>75029

Don't be so vague. Give me examples, so I don't have to do your job and find them only to then do my job and refute "your" examples.




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