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WARNING! Free Speech Zone - all local trashcans will be targeted for destruction by Antifa.

File: b926c57595b6550⋯.jpg (3.95 MB, 2500x5000, 1:2, white america.jpg)

 No.72295

"Anti-racist" is a codeword for anti-white, "Diversity" is a codeword for white genocide

 No.72296

>>72295

No, thanks. I don't want to buy your cookies.


 No.72301

i do like diversity tbh


 No.72302

I believe you, but fuck off because you are a nigger, no niggers allowed this is a white board


 No.72336

>>72302

>this is a white board

This is a non-totalitarian board.


 No.72337

>>72336

fuck off moshe


 No.72338


 No.72380

>>72336

>This is a non-totalitarian board.

Also known as a white only board


 No.72382

File: c7eee92d0a11340⋯.jpg (278.37 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 1512664162524.jpg)

Go away.


 No.72401

>>72382

humans are mimetic. that is they project others on themselves. this ranges from empathy, to sports and 'we won'

theres more to national, cultural

interpreting shopenhauers psychological observations is possible. however to conclude what he concluded, would require you to eliminate all other possible reasons. wich he didnt do. also it would require you know all possible reasons. that sort of proof, empirical induction to the point absolute confidence, is something not actually feasible, because of knowledge problems.

aphorisms on the wisdom of life / 10


 No.72402

>>72295

I'm beginning to wonder if the influx of faggots is due to lack of response to, these faggots, or if it's like my crabposting on /n/ and is secretly just one or two autists going at it consistently. probably the latter.


 No.72405

>>72402

they're all me


 No.72422

File: a946d28caad7259⋯.jpg (52.21 KB, 666x666, 1:1, snibeti german.jpg)

>>72402

>Crabposting

did you post snibeti meme?


 No.72426

>"Anti-racist" is a codeword for anti-white, "Diversity" is a codeword for white genocide

I agree wholeheartedly, I can even do you one better and tell you that behind it all are the scheming, backstabbing kikes. Now explain to me why that means I should give up my rights. Every single authoritarian government in history failed from the absolute monarchies to your infallible strongman Adolf Hitler, and they all made the exact same mistake of exiling or attempting to in the case of Hitler them rather than treating them like the fucking infestation of parasites they are and exterminating them. I have a feeling that if Hitler had won the war the "based" Jews he let serve in his army would automatically start undermining all of his accomplishments as soon as he assumed room temperature, and the ones that were sent to Madagascar would have found ways to get into mainland Africa and start the whole process of world domination over again. Hitler would have bought Europe a millenium at most, funny enough they even called it a "thousand year Reich". So tell me, please, why you think this time will be any different? They're called Zionist Occupied Governments for a reason.


 No.72431

>>72426

>Absolutist monarchy

>Authoritarian

What's it like to be sixteen?


 No.72488

>>72382

Projection of external qualities onto oneself still requires the preexistence of self, which is a thing that exists in and of itself, but is also knowable through observation. Conceiving of self entirely through self-directed observation without first conceiving of self as a thing-in-itself (will) to be overcome is completely banal–that you would lake any innate characteristics, but are defined by everything exterior. Moreover, he claims it to be the "cheapest" form of pride, not that it is an impossible form of pride. You're acting as though a value judgement can never be made regarding someone's character.


 No.72489


 No.73061

>>72431

You haven't convinced me to give my rights up yet, maybe try again?


 No.73064

>>72382

Based Schopenhauer.


 No.73065

>>72426

>I agree wholeheartedly

Get off this board and fuck off back to /pol/


 No.73134

>>73061

Why would I convince you, if you're already convinced? At least that's what I get from your flag. If you had something against being coercively ruled, you'd have the ancap-flag. If you had something against coercive rule that went beyond a minimal state, and if you were properly informed, you'd be more opposed to democracy than absolutist monarchy.


 No.73375

>>72431

are not monarchies in arabic peninsula authoritarian?


 No.73382

>>73375

Doesn't change the fact that monarchies are not inherently more authoritarian than other forms of state. Given the prevailing ideology in Saudi Arabia, they'd be shit no matter what form of government they had.


 No.73460

>non-whites

>liberty

choose no more than ONE (1)


 No.73466

>>73460

there is famous nigger ancap vloger (thatguyt) and chink (pholosopher)

checkmate


 No.73509

>>73466

wtf i love africans now


 No.73535

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>>72295

You can hate both kinds of racists and be consistent. You can be racist and still judge people on the content of their character- Even your Nazi leader George Lincoln Rockwell believed in those words of MLK while he was marching with the Black Panthers on numerous occasions. If people were held responsible for their actions, there would be no need to even bring up this topic- racism and "anti-racism" are codewords for shifting responsibility onto someone else. Take responsibility for your own damn actions, show integrity, shoot the nigger or Cletus that breaks into your house or attacks you regardless of skin color, and the world will be a better place where Blacks, Whites, Latinos, and Asians can get along and trade shit with each other.


 No.73552

>>73535

>Christian Anarchist poster

>Anti-White

>Gay

Yep, all checks out. Kill yourself, my man. God is Jewish and he loves The Chosen first and foremost.


 No.73555

>>73552

Make an argument any time, friendo.


 No.73561

>>73535

>marching with the Black Panthers on numerous occasions

Source?


 No.73585

File: 09b99b6ae3aba88⋯.jpg (255.71 KB, 1600x1118, 800:559, George_Lincoln_Rockwell_na….jpg)

>>73561

Not in the mood to dig around since I'm mourning something unrelated, so have a picture of him at a Nation of Islam conference where he got front row seats and donated $20 (in today's inflation that'd be ~$150).


 No.73643

White nationalists made me anti-white I hope you're happy I just wanted to play video games.


 No.73652

>>73134

>If you had something against being coercively ruled, you'd have the ancap-flag.

The God-ordained social covenant is not coercive


 No.73653

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 No.73792

>>73585

The Panthers had little to do with the NOI, esp after they explicitly rejected racial seperatism


 No.73795

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>>72382

I actually have mixed feelings towards nationalism. Does it make sense from a logical point of view? No but neither do many human behaviors. Take for example Jewish Nationalism. Was it individualist to have a shared Jewish Community and identity? No but having that probably helped them survive the centuries of persecution and Genocide. Even if all group identities were bad, how would you get rid of them? Use something like the State to stop them from having a tribal identity and break down all identities to "have complete individualism"? Say for example Jews wanted to live in an all Jewish neighborhood and they set up their private property to have that neighborhood. Who in a free society would stop them. If nationalism is bad does that make holidays like Hannukah and Saint Patrick's Day bad because they teach collectivism? In some ways nationalism is good because it gives people a shared identity which can be used to fight against tyranny. Look at Palestinian, Early American, Catalonian, Vietnamese nationalism along with the nationalism behind Brexit. Those can't all be bad. Group identities are like religion in that they probably don't make sense but cannot be banned in a free society. It only becomes a problem when that identity is used to harm others and their property.


 No.73802

>>73795

It makes perfect sense to me. You must act like an individual, but you shouldn't forget about your tribe. It's not a black and white thing for me logically. When your tribe is in danger you go help your tribe, when you are in danger your tribe has your back. In order to have worth in your tribe you must be a valuable individual.

As much as Jews talk to others about individualism, they never forget each other so I think we should take example from the things they do because like it or not they are the most powerful people in the west.

However, personally I wish Jews practiced whatever they do in Israel, I see my own country as an extension of my own private property and I feel like their activities are threatening me, like, for example I can't claim "air" as my own, but that doesn't mean I enjoy it when a group of people agreed to all fart together and stink up the air I breathe.


 No.73803

>>73795

>I actually have mixed feelings towards nationalism. Does it make sense from a logical point of view? No but neither do many human behaviors.

I believe that there can be no genuine conflict between the good and the rational. If something is good, it's also rational. If it's truly and fully rational, then it must be good. This notion that the realm of is and ought are strictly divided is relatively recent. David Hume didn't so much discover as invent it, although that's not strictly true. Rather, Hume ruminated on a Zeitgeist that he was captured in.

I can recommend Ethica Thomistica and After Virtue on this topic, although take much of the latter with a grain of salt, if you decide to read it.

Now, as for nationalism itself, I also don't believe it's completely bad, just as every political ideology. Socialism, for example, is at least partially based on compassion. If it didn't give an outlet for the compassion that people have for the working poor, socialism wouldn't even have been experimented with. Likewise, nationalism has a core of virtue. If socialism is twisted compassion, then nationalism is twisted patriotism. A patriot loves his country like he would loves his parents, whereas nationalists love it like a child. It is love, but not the love that's due, which doesn't make much of a difference when you want to protect your country from a foreign aggressor, but does make a difference when you want to protect it from an internal change. Let's say these allegories are 80% fitting. I wouldn't overstretch them.


 No.73822

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>>73803

This is why I love this board. I don't agree with everyone here but at least I know I'm not wasting time with a bunch of idiots.

You're right about nationalism and socialism, but the same can be said about almost everything. Truth exists everywhere in varying amounts, some things just contain it more than others.

I like nationalists (except alt-rights), but most of them just don't know how government works, I also like the things that socialists want (free shit, cheap goods, etc… who doesn't?) but they don't know how the economy works and manage to fuck it up. The nationalists think that installing a one-party system with a white dictator at the top will solve all our problems (they don't believe in a competition of ideas), socialists think that banning profit will solve all our problems (they don't believe in competition in business), I'm also exaggerating but this is kinda how it goes. They have some very good ideas but for the most part they are wrong.


 No.73836

File: 15eba3bfb093a98⋯.jpeg (169.66 KB, 597x630, 199:210, schopy stairs.jpeg)

>>72382

I don't know what that has to do with feelings on race. He's just telling you that taking pride in living vicariously through others is dumb. There's a big difference between loving and caring for the people of your community or nation and dick-waving because you're part of a regional superpower. I don't know what to say if you can't separate these ideas. Probably just oversocialization at work. There's a reason that the meme OP posted exists to this day - there is a distinction made between anti-racist and not racist, and you are not allowed to comment on it, lest you be labeled a full-blown racist. It exists to expose a kafkatrap that you're helping to set up.

And I'm sure Schopenhauer would have some unkind words for the modern world if he was alive to see it. He might even go full DAY OF THE STAIRCASE.


 No.74035

bump




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