/liberty/ - Liberty

>>65359

Government regulated capitalism has been dealt a blow, but not free market capitalism.

You need to conflate free market with corporatism to think this book has any arguments against economic freedom. Anyone who does that ignores reality.

>>65381

How would a free market with no governmental intervention prevent corporatism?

>>65390

There wouldn't be any one central legislative power to lobby. It can still be attempted on a smaller scale, but that doesn't last long either as the legislative body loses its customers and validity.

You need a central government first to start lobbying it.

>>65381

>i-it's not real capitalism!! ;__;

>>65390

It wouldn't. The state was made to protect capitalists, they will just reestablish it.

>>65416

So governments and states never existed until capitalism came along?

>>65359

From the description, this reads like yet another critique of unrealistic equilibrium-theories, with no bearing on, you know, actually sound economic theory. Not sure why it should be relevant. Marx and Engels, Sen, Galbraith, Marcuse, Adorno, Chomsky, Graeber and countless other scholars have already btfo'd capitalism, or so I was told. What makes this particular contribution noteworthy?

>>65415

Do you sincerely believe that a market distorted by minimum wage laws, subventions, regulations, licensing, confiscations, nationalizations, price controls and entire sectors that are under official state control behaves exactly like an unregulated free market? If so, then your argument is at least consistent.

>>65417

The modern state as we know it came around at the time capitalism began to take over feudalism.

>>65418

No, I just like calling the spade a spade. That is what capitalism is, "unregulated free markets" are an utopia that never could work.

>>65421

>introduce Socialist policies to a system that rejects them

>keep dragging down the economy with your parasitism

See guys, I told you Capitalism doesn't work!

>>65420

False. The modern state began with the French Revolution, capitalism began gradually with the Industrial Revolution (arguably earlier, but let's go with the assumption beneficial to your case), and feudalism was effectively abolished in great parts of Europe more than a century before the French Revolution. The king of France abolished serfdom in his domain by decree in 1779, and before that, apparently only a few isolated spots within the Bourbonnais and the Jura still knew the institute. It's simply a myth that the monarchies stood in the way of "progress" and "modernism". Knew who abolished slavery in Brazil? The empress, which pissed the landowners off so bad they started a republic. Meanwhile, Paraguay, a "modern" and "progressive" country influenced by Rousseaulian ideas and not under the cruel yoke of a king, burned away more than half its male population via conscription in war. Which of these governments, then, had a greater respect for liberty?

>>65421

Then prove it instead of hopping around the issue. Show us that "real capitalism" cannot work. Before you do that, we will trust in our studies and readings which showed us that unregulated capitalism with a privatized ocean and a free market in babies is the best and most beneficial system of economics conceivable.

>>65427

Rousseau was still totalitarian, what with forcing people to be free? His receptions tend to be even worse, because these niggers always forget he had city states in mind when he wrote the Social Contract, not multiethnic, multicultural nations with millions of inhabitants.