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File: 4a6b15a64acc311⋯.jpg (47.65 KB, 500x355, 100:71, unironic ancap fedora.jpg)

 No.64573

So libertarians and other small government enthusiasts, why aren't you going all the way to anarcho-capitalism?

 No.64578

Because they have pet parts of the government that they want to keep while gutting the rest.


 No.64581

I'm against feudalism.


 No.64582

The geopolitical possibility does not exist yet.


 No.64595

This: >>64582

I'm still an ancap because I believe in going against the tide and doing the right thing. If you're hoping for utopia, go to the stupid socialists. If you love mankind and the idea of justice, then anarchocapitalism and Christianity are where you're at.


 No.64596

>>64581

>le feudalism meme XD


 No.64603

File: 9db2567ba0c90bc⋯.jpg (19.35 KB, 595x397, 595:397, fagbook_meme.jpg)

>>64582

>>64595

Funnily enough I'm of the reverse position. I would say the possibility of a utopian small and efficient government that won't quickly expand is near zero, therefore pragmatically Anarchy is preferable and more easily attainable, even if ideally a minarchist state would be nice.


 No.64624

File: de21f6bee6f253b⋯.png (75.56 KB, 793x794, 793:794, redditgas2.png)

Seems to be an issue of min/maxing. Despite what the collectivist swine will scream, ancap and some of the deviations presents the best way to reach a post scarcity AND free world. However, in the current state of affairs, any minarchy will be a fine surrogate, slowly gutted into a stateless society. But this is only one course though.


 No.64648

>>64582

what do you mean? will cucknada invade antapish usa?


 No.64656

>>64648

The physical threat of invasion is not the only issue. Economic sanctions and multinational banking organisations and economic unions are arguably a larger threat.


 No.64668

>>64573

>dat pic

I recognize where that comic came from.


 No.64720

>>64656

ancap-usa could be self-sustainable


 No.64762

File: 1b42671e1202319⋯.png (411.56 KB, 640x640, 1:1, 1b97bbec-c328-46c7-c67b-6a….png)

In the end, anarcho-capitalism is different from plutocracy, oligarchy, and or dictatorship how?


 No.64769

>>64762

Actions and especially legislation that breaks natural rights is not permissible under AnCap ethics. If you can somehow prove how under that it must result in those argue how. Nobody is obliged to defend against an unproved accusation.


 No.65041

File: 6f3c7c688ba0f43⋯.png (394.47 KB, 640x640, 1:1, be5aec8e-8e06-4498-c4d6-03….png)

>>64573

I'm not so much a small government enthusiast- although I support this over the alternative- as a separatist enthusiast.

Smaller states are more responsive to their citizens/subjects as there are fewer of them.

World Separatist Union when?

(That it sounds like an oxymoron is part of the charm)

Individual freedom is my most important issue.

https://steemit.com/@voxxe


 No.65042

File: b78b07bda11a555⋯.png (293.09 KB, 640x640, 1:1, 04ed67cd-81cb-4bce-cb78-ee….png)

>>64769

Anarchism implies no government even as arbiter… are you sure you're not just a maximalist capital L Libertarian?


 No.65047

>>65041

Sounds like what Mises had in mind. It's a respectable position, I think.


 No.65055

>>65041

I'm an ancap, but pan-secessionism is my plan b.


 No.65106

I guess the reason why I haven't converted to anarcho-capitalism is due to how the law would work and that I fear states would form anyway. I get the feeling people would form states due to expediency or something.


 No.68649

>>64573

To make at least one argument for this; any argument you can use to ethically justify a minimal state can be applied to a state of any size. For example, Murray Rothbard himself became an anarchist when he was asked by a liberal friend he was debating "you're a minarchist, how do you justify the state providing law?" He gave the standard contract, social contract, people get together to form it this monopoly, whatever. Of course, the response was "why can't this apply to any other industry, for example schooling?" Now of course our Murray was stomped, since he of course couldn't respond. From here, he would either have to be an anarchist or a liberal (or, of course, logically inconsistent).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3HatEn0BjI / https://mises.org/blog/transcript-how-murray-rothbard-became-libertarian

Anyway, I think a lot of so-called minarchists are 'deep down' anarchists but consider themselves 'practical' and since anarcho-capitalism is so 'hard to implement' today, they're not one. The fallacy here is of course suggesting we need to abandon the end goal to make steps towards it. This of course is not true - abolitionism in theory is gradualism in practice, and gradualism in theory is perpetuity in practice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLS-VLQwF9o


 No.68657

>>65042

You should read up on Private security companies instead of making money posting on social media.

Not that I have a problem with your social media posts but they don't encourage knowledge either.




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