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File: f92743cf01bfc12⋯.png (130.5 KB,720x524,180:131,fluffy_foal_loves_you__by_….png)

 No.37691

TL;DR: I love drawing fluffies but the fandom has been ruined and is making me sad. What do?

I used to be a great fan of fluffies - cute, naive creatures with big hearts and a knack for ending in accidents. I'm not a good artist but I have endless creativity, and fluffies are sufficiently easy to draw.

If you've seen fluffies during the last two years, you'll have no doubt noticed that there's much less nice content about them anymore. /b/tards wanted to turn them into evil and despicable little hellgremlins so they could hate and abuse them without moral qualms, and nowadays the image of the fandom is permanently tarnished by people deliberately trying to paint the fluffies as combination of all the worst traits of mankind imaginable.

Sometimes it has seemed like the original fandom could split apart from the new "hellgremlin" fandom, but the fans of hellgremlins are hell-bent on insisting that their rapist-murderer fluffies are indistinguishable from the original love-and-huggies fluffies, and actively fight against any attempts to even tag their content accordingly. With hellgremlin art posted alongside good fluffy art any newcomers are bound to think that sadism is normal for fluffies, and if they'd have liked the concept of original fluffies they'll never enter the fandom that appears to be about creatures with a propensity to go full psycho with little to no warning.

What should I do? I love fluffies, I like drawing them, but I have lost all hope for the fandom so spending effort on this sinking ship just makes me sad. What do you think?

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 No.37693

Fandoms get "ruined" all the time, have you ever heard of rule 34?, regardless. I think you should just keep drawing them if it makes you happy, when things like this happen there is always a smaller group left that usually produces better art than the newer larger group of what was once the original.

8chan is even built on this, it gained it's status after moot banhammered anyone on 4/v/ that dare mention GG. And as a result you got quality over quanitity in 8chan as opposed to quantity over quality 4chan

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 No.37694

>>37693

As of now halfchan is good if you want lots of pictures, like if you want to set DownThemAll to soak up hundreds from /wp/ or /e/ or wherever.

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 No.37700

File: cbeb8ada146ddb8⋯.jpg (116.32 KB,1280x960,4:3,Sketti hurties.jpg)

>>37693

You don't understand… Fluffy fandom isn't ruined in the "there's content I don't like" sense, it's ruined in the "the fandom has been taken over by another, completely opposite fandom that does everything it can to make people hate everything about it."

It's like if a fandom about cute girls got overtaken by people who like traps, who'd then go on to advertise it as a fandom that's all about dicks and sucking dicks and big-dicked men who just look like girls. No straight person would want to join a fandom like that, and as the amount of gay art increased, more and more of the old artists would leave because searching for pictures of the girls in a sea of traps and surprise dicks is not even worth the effort anymore.

And just like fans of hellgremlins, the fans of traps wouldn't see a problem with this. After all, if they're okay pictures where the characters don't have a visible boner, then everyone else should be just as okay with pictures where they do have a boner, right?

It gets even worse with them trying to compromise: "Maybe the characters were once girls, but they have naturally grown penises over time." "They CAN be girls in certain situations if they try hard enough, but their dicks can pop out at any moment." "There are girls at dedicated straight clubs, but everyone else in the world is a trap."

Even the trap comparison doesn't sufficiently explain how bad the situation of fluffies is. As I mentioned, the hellgremlins are about HATING the fluffies, so not only are they turning the fandom to the opposite of what it was, they're making it as infuriating and rage-inducing as possible. Hate is the only emotion hellgremlins are intended to invoke at any means possible, so having to browse through them is not only unpleasant, it's purposefully pissing you off! While 4channers already spend their time yelling and getting yelled at by trolling teenagers, that is not what most people want to spend their time on. Because of hellgremlins, the fluffy fandom has turned into a source of nothing but pure negativity.

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 No.37723

File: 2bec15c44b4ebf2⋯.jpg (1.33 MB,3024x4032,3:4,2bec15c44b4ebf28350f1dc930….jpg)

Segregation is the only solution I can see. Make a group for people who feel the way you do and keep to yourselves. Ban any of these subversives that wander into your group.

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 No.37724

>>37700

i am in a similar situation where ironic memers call shit like shrek or cory in the house "anime" purely to piss off anime fans. And i hate it more than anything in the world

But what i do is to try and avoid ironic meme groups as much as possible because of this, and instead keep to anime-friendly groups where i'm less likely to get trolled.

Maybe you could do the same and keep to SFW fluffy sites/communities or start up one if there doesn't exist one like

>>37723 said

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 No.37735

File: 7daf2798a2e40ee⋯.jpg (105.77 KB,800x551,800:551,babbeh drinking.jpg)

>>37723

I thought so too, but it hasn't worked. Fluffybooru is still where most of both old and new art is located, so whenever someone gets interested about the fandom, that's inevitably where they go to. And since the hg-fandom fights any attempts to even tag their stuff as such, anyone going there will either hate it and leave the fandom or hate it and stay there to hate it more.

>>37724

Sorry to hear that, but at least anime will never get completely replaced by Shrek and Cory in the House. Those who make anime don't have to work exclusively in those trolled threads, so there's no way spammers could stop anime from being produced by driving all the content creators away.

Also, just for information: The oldschool fluffies being SFW is a strawman many hellgremlinists like to beat, but it's entirely false. Fluffies ending up in Happy Tree Friends-style disasters has always been the largest appeal of the fandom, but the point is that they've been the victims rather than villains. A typical fluffy story would be a fluffy trying to pull a can of spaghetti down from a table and braining itself with it, while a typical hellgremlin story would be (and half the time is) a fluffy forcing its own baby to eat shit. The difference isn't whether it's SFW or NSFW, it's in whether it makes you laugh at schadenfreude or enraged against the fluffies.

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 No.38830

File: 405a3e7410b1f1a⋯.png (204.69 KB,1718x777,1718:777,therapy fluffy.png)

Good news everyone! Since the fluffies got banned from /b/ the influx of new hellgremlin fans have ceased, and nowadays only the fluffybooru.org remains as their containment site. The hellgremlin fans have finally split into their own closed circle, while literally all other boards and sites follow the classic fluffy fandom. Without a central site like the fluffybooru the fandom is still weak and scattered, but I'm hoping the old site at http://fluffy.booru.org/ could be reawakened as the new hub for the fandom.

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 No.38834

File: 19e103506534d18⋯.jpg (292.35 KB,792x2814,132:469,1441098625837.jpg)

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sorry i dont have any advice

i just reallly liked this fluffy comic

i think you should keep doing what you like anon, you shouldnt quit if its what you want to do.

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 No.38846

File: eb42d35e8f8b9f5⋯.jpg (453.56 KB,999x2810,999:2810,1441099078432.jpg)

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>>38834

omg just realized i forgot the other part

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 No.38847

File: 8668bbe72ed6afe⋯.jpg (1.56 MB,550x2780,55:278,1538 - author mayclore flu….jpg)

File: b3a28f480ac722a⋯.jpg (1.43 MB,550x2780,55:278,1539 - author mayclore bro….jpg)

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Here's my favorite fluffy story. It's long, but pretty much every line of it is fluffy gold so it gets good fast and stays that way till the end.

It also has a surprising story despite being completely grounded, which is something to recommend in itself. I'm usually a fan of adventures of epic scale, but this makes a great personal arc just from the narrators experiences and how it changes the way he thinks of the fluffies.

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 No.38848

File: 5a0e349138d8520⋯.jpg (1.55 MB,550x2780,55:278,1543 - author mayclore flu….jpg)

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 No.38898

>>38846

>france starts nuclear missile war

but im le tired

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 No.38999

Isn't the whole thing a little sick? Why get pleasure out of the suffering and death of these cute creatures? And, although they also may be sick, I can see the other side of the fandom's point more, as it is more sensible and reasonable to want someone to suffer because of some wrong they have done than to want someone perfectly innocent to suffer. I dunno. Maybe explain what you get out of this. Seems a bit unkind.

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 No.39319

File: c670ce8b588caab⋯.png (62.88 KB,868x1000,217:250,just fucking die.png)

>>38999

I am way too empathetic in real life. I have been abused myself, and can't even enjoy shows like Game of Thrones because seeing evil win and innocents suffer hits too close to home. However, fluffies are so over-the-top saccharine that the cute aggression flips the empathy over, and for the first time ever I can actually identify more with the abusers than their victims. Being able to watch cute, innocent creatures suffering without getting sad is a really strange feeling, like binaural stimulation for a part of brain you didn't know you had.

On a more serious note, my therapist actually encourages me to keep drawing fluffies, since they work as a way to deal with my own past experiences without being overwhelmed by them. I don't want to cause anyone suffering in the real world, so fluffies serve as a good dumping point for all the malice and violence I don't want to pass on.

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 No.39338

>>39319

In the voice of Nathan Explosion, however: "But beware!" For one's brain cannot differentiate between fantasy and reality. But instead of making ye olde slippery slope fallacy of "violent cartoons/gemu = violence IRL!11!" argument, I'll state that morality and immorality can't coexist in the mind. So this anon humbly suggests that it'd behoove (pun intended) to do the best one can to fill one's mind with /kind/ thoughts and /kind/ feelings. No, it isn't possible to flip a switch from Sad to Happy and so on, for not only trying to smooth rough waters with a flat iron will only disturb them all the more, an individual subconscious thought arises and passes within a billionth of a second so it's impossible to even try to control them! So try "indirectly influencing" them by working hard to uproot immoral habits while bringing in moral habits, consciously thinking of good things (especially when a bad thought arises; can't think both at once) , and engaging in calming and happiness-inducing activities like drawing happy fluffies.

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