No.34069
what are some of the most kind countries and cultures?
canada and japan come to mind
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No.34070
Don't mistake politeness for kindness. Also there's probably a world index for this sort of thing.
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No.34071
>>34070
Being considerate towards others is part of kindness, and that's what it means to be polite, so its no mistake.
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No.34073
>>34071
That's like saying following laws and precepts blindly while leaving one's self unexamined is moral.
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No.34074
>>34073
No, it's exactly like saying being considerate towards others is kindness in practice.
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No.34077
>discriminatory, anti-free speech SJW- central is /kind/
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No.34134
>>34073
>That's like saying following laws and precepts blindly while leaving one's self unexamined is moral.
I have to agree with >>34074
I was thinking Iceland. In a land surrounded by darkness and sweaters, you have to stick together.
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No.34200
>>34069
>japan
>kind
japan has been one of the most racist, supremacist, expansionist, and xenophobic nations for the majority of modern history. The Japan you know today isn't even a century old, it was created by the US and Patton's reconstruction efforts.
pic related, I was going to include some more but they were way too graphic to show here
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No.34202
>>34077
>>34200
i don't mean their political decisions/history. but more the general culture. i'm sure every country has skeletons in their closet, wether they be today or from yesterday
maybe making this thread was a mistake. it's giving people all kinds of wrong vibes
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No.34207
>>34200
>has been
>history
>the Japan you know today
Anon, you do seem to have missed the point. I see no reason why you have to go all SJW lecturer on us. Heck, do you even need to say racist, supremacist, AND xenophobic? Is there an important distinction, or is it just fun to list off buzzwords? Can you say for certain that modern Japanese culture is shapen from outside, exclusively?
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No.34222
>>34200
I think you've got the wrong board friend, /leftypol/ is the other way around, glad I could help.
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No.34223
>>34222
Thank you for directing people to the proper boards, but you forgot to help out >>34077 who clearly meant to post on /pol/
unless you just want to stigmatize people who have different views from you without offering any counterarguments, which is fine too
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No.34224
>>34222
>>34223
I thought everyone was welcome on /kind/. Are we not friends?
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No.34225
>>34224
Of course we are friends
/kind/ is the most kind culture
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No.34227
>>34223
I do want to do that, thank you for accepting this my friend :)
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No.34355
>>34074
So you're looking for people that are kind in their actions? So you don't care about the intentions behind these actions?
So basically, as long as everyone acts kind to each other, even if it's purely superficial, this is a "kind" country to you? What about people growing up in a harsh, cruel, unforgiving environment and are thus forced to place value on strength above all else? Would killing a disabled child be "kind" in your eyes? What about the very notion of "tough love"?
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No.34356
>>34355
How far do you want to take that train of thought? I mean, there's been mountains upon mountains of papers postulating the ultimately selfish nature of kindness and altruism. Surely, if we don't accept any kindness at face value to some extent, then we'd be forced to conclude that kindness does not exist.
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No.34363
Iran.
>government
Since some people interpret this board as being forcefully kind 24/7 and nothing strictly non-kind rather than just being /b/ with kindness (/b/ as in no central discussion topic) is allowed to enter it I'll justify it being part of the axis of evil. The government isn't as bad as it use to be, yes they don't care about the land and sell our unique dirt to Arabs who only know of sand the government has been secularizing allowing more liberties to the country and stuff that has been misconceived.
>a lot of youth music is allowed
>women don't have to wear trashbags just the hijab or anything that will cover up their hair
>women are allowed to do anything a man can do except go to football games, how would you like it if your wife showed up to the bar you drink at so I'm completely fine with this "oppression"
>girls aren't required to wear the hijab until around 9 or 10
>Iran has freedom of religion but the mullahs and imams say if any Shi'ite converts to another religion they will be killed, you can only leave Islam not join another religion
>they're friends with Assad who has a completely opposite ideology to the Islamic Republic of Iran, this is mostly for oil and trade and the proxy war with Saudi Arabia & Israel but also some morals as Assad is a good man protecting his people from Turkish-Saudi proxy fighters funded by the west
I think I've made the image that Iran is a necessary evil because fuck if I know what will happen if the west invades or a "civil war" starts.
>the kindness/people
Iranians are the nicest people you'll meet in the world. I can't say it more bluntly, everyone waves to you, speaks to you in decent English, there's a 70s vibe to it because that was the last decade of secularism like a memory hole akin to North Korea, people invite you to your home and make you food with many options to choose from because they don't know what their guest wants, the only problems you'll run into are the Islamic youth gangs and secret police. I can't say it more simply so watch this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2LEgowbzSc.
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No.34365
>>34356
It's hard to admit that kindness is a farce.
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No.34367
>>34363
Almost all of the Iranian men I've met and dealt with have rubbed me the wrong way. I'm actually biased against them. Tho Persian girls were almost always well mannered, respectable and polite.
Your post is interesting so I'll look into the video anon. They are much better than people I've met from Saudia Arabia tho.
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No.34373
>>34355
The idea that intent has anything to do with kindness is a delusion. In the real world its about results. The actual effect of an act is what counts.
>Would killing a disabled child be "kind" in your eyes?
If we know their life will just be pain due to this disability then I guess so.
>What about the very notion of "tough love"?
Depends on the results.
>>34365
It should be difficult to spout untruths. The existence of any amount of self interest does not negate kindness.
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No.34375
>>34356
>How far do you want to take that train of thought?
How far the train can go is irrelevant. The fact that the train exists is the problem I want to bring attention to. Surely, a kind culture is a culture where people are genuinely invested in each other's happiness for their sake, much like the unconditional love a mother might have for her child. Just happy to know that they're happy.
>>34373
So a desire to be kind doesn't make you a kind person?
A desire to be kind doesn't make you a kind person.
I guess I always saw a kind person as a person who cares about kindness, in contrast to those who evidently don't care. Just the presence of the desire makes you good. I don't fully understand where this notion came from but I'm glad I've identified it.
If kindness is purely results-oriented and the results an action generate will differ with the situation that action is taken in then in order to specify actions that are always kind, you need to ensure that the situations are also always the same and so routines and whatnot become necessary but this is an illusion. Only when the situation is held constant do the results generated by the same action become constant. There's no such thing as an objectively (i.e. context-independent) kind action. In light of this then, surely intent is all that's left, otherwise, kindness really is just a farce. It can only exist as part of an illusion where a society enforces specific scenarios for social interaction. If it's all intent though then I suppose it's meaningless since those things can't be objectively measured anyway. Maybe this is all just a case of the ideal of kindness vs kindness in practise.
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No.34460
>>34363
that's like saying dog poop is delicious because at least it isn't bird poop
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No.34476
>>34355
>So you don't care about the intentions behind these actions?
People are naturally selfish and self serving but as long as there is some sense of decorum of politeness, even if it is based on peer pressure, I'd rather take that over free wheeling outward displays of selfishness and obnoxiousness. What people do in their own privacy is none of my business and what I do in mine is none of my business; the veil of kindness outside of these private realms is what we are talking about here, the public face of a society.
Essentially, their intentions are none of my fucking business. We're strangers and smiling politely, moving out of the way so people can continue about their business, keeping up a face of hospitality to customers, not being loud and obnoxious in public, etc. are all things which make places much nicer to live in, even if it may appear a little cold and disingenuous on the surface. At the end of the day, people want to be left the fuck alone to attend to their own business and they will reach out to others and other to them in relevant times, when they are comfortable and in their own space.
If I'm to put on a smile and help someone with directions or open a door for or carry something heavy to their car if they are struggling, chances are I'm doing it for my own benefits of feeling good about being able to help someone out, but don't mistake that for me giving a shit about them or their lives. I'm not trying to be friendly or get into their private space, I'm merely helping them get along with their personal business because there is a mutual understanding that no one wants to be dealing with this bullshit any longer than they have to in the public sphere and as an aside I feel slightly more productive as a member of said community.
It's still a farce at the end of the day and my intentions are fundamentally selfish. This is also something I'll take over something obnoxious like "southern hospitality", or some other phrase for nosey people who don't understand the concept of personal, private space.
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No.34478
>>34069
Japan does not treat its prisoners kindly at all.
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No.37555
A whole year and still no Ireland? Rude!
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No.37601
people in Midwestern America are really really kind
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No.37602
>>34478
And why would you treat prisoners nicely? You treat them like they're in a 5 stars hotel then everyone would commit crime to get a free stay in the prison. Besides, prison is supposed to be a rehabilitation facility for criminals.
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No.37610
>>34069
It all varies and perspectives can vary depending on the culture. If your culture thinks a certain thing is kind, another culture may think it isn't. Countries generally consist of a lot of differing people and even when a majority could be considered 'kind' there would still likely be a lot of people that weren't, that might have made those countries look unkind.
Maybe this world kindness movement is a good way to list countries with a lot of kind people in them since it has 28 countries that have representatives in it;
http://www.theworldkindnessmovement.org/about-us/
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No.37617
>>37610
What an interesting group. I never heard of its existence until today
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