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 No.28761[Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

You guys won't give a chan-bias if I ask here, so:

Say you're a teacher and a child acts out.

This child has autism/

This child has downs/

This child has tourettes/

This child has anger management problems/

This child has bipolar disorder/

At what point do you wave the child off because of his mental issue, and at what point do you punish him like any other child? How severe does the disorder have to be to be waven off? Is it even okay to wave anything off because of a mental disorder?

 No.28762

That's a tough as shit question. I know I should be more forgiving and open to interpretation but I think of most people as incapable of acting competent already. I think it comes down to your outlook of the world, how you honestly feel about everyone's significance to the group. Now obviously I'm not saying put someone beneath someone in your place of authority (you'd best not be screwing around with your idea or responsibility) but ideally everyone is a part of the group and as such need to be held accountable despite understood accommodations. What does that mean? Fuck if I know, I'm autistic.


 No.28765>>28767 >>28779

>you're a teacher

Don't they have guidelines about how to deal with cases like this? I'd assume the state would in order to avoid getting in trouble.


 No.28767

>>28765

States and districts have guidelines on this, yes. As far as the philosophy behind it goes, I don't know.


 No.28770>>28818

A proactive & engaged parent > the most well trained teacher


 No.28779

>>28765

>Don't they have guidelines about how to deal with cases like this?

Mine didn't.

I'll say no more to avoid opening those old wounds.


 No.28781>>28782

In many states the guideline is to beat them.

It's okay to beat kids in those states as apparently children aren't human there yet.

So I guess if you are in the south you just do that.

If not try get the child's parents involved to determine the best course of action on a case by case basis.


 No.28782

>>28781

I'm surprised corporal punishment (or whatever it's called) is still a thing anywhere in the US these days. People make a fuss over hearing their parents have spanked their kid a single time anymore from what I hear. -but yeah, that's screwed up to hit someone for something they can't help.


 No.28818>>28821

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My brother is professionally diagnosed as on "the spectrum" of autism. I suspect I also might be… We have a lot of similarities. My parents were young and broke, so it's entirely possible I was just never looked at

With some help through the school, we set a card system up for him. He would hold onto four plastic binder cutouts - green, yellow, orange, and red - and each one had things he liked written on them. "Nintendo" was written on the orange one, for example. "RC Cars" was on the green one.

He would always start the day on Green, and every time the teacher had to ask him more than once to stop disrupting the class, she would take one of his cards away. That night/weekend, he was only allowed to play with what he had left written on cards. If the green one was taken away, no matter how much he wanted to race RC cars with me, he couldn't because the teacher had that card.

A child psychologist recommended that system to us for two reasons:

1) It was a standard and consistent system, so even with his issues my brother still grasped what was going on. This is opposed to the seemingly arbitrary nature of "when I did this my last teacher only gave me a warning, so why am I in trouble this time?"

2) It directly tied "acting out" - doing things that hurt others - to things that hurt him.

The logic was that he'd understand that it wasn't cool to disrupt class because it made everyone feel bad just like when he can't race RC cars. I still don't really know if I buy that, but that fucker has turned into a stronger, better, more confident, more "normal" person than me, so take that for what you will.

So, barely on-topic tangent aside, >>28770 this anon is right, and given time the question can become a moot point. Until then, though, it's important to keep in mind that even though you should show them a little grace, too much leeway will lead to nothing improving or even getting worse in some cases.


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>>28818

>that fucker has turned into a stronger, better, more confident, more "normal" person than me

I hate to see friends with a bit of a low opinion of themselves. You seem like a smart person! I hope you can be more confident, friend.


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>>28821

Danke schoen friend.




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