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 No.28527>>28642 >>28669 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

I would like to know the answer to this simple question.

Who am I? Who am I inside? What does my inner me want from life? What purpose is there for my life? By what morals, rules and standards should I abide to? What is good and bad, what do I want, what makes sense, what doesn't?

Recently I have been thinking about life and to this moment I believe I have been doing nothing but what others expect from me, or at the very least, projecting in myself something I see off cool in a propaganda, game, movie, something a family member expects from me, or whatever. "Be successful!"; "You should study engineering!" "Having this attitude is cool!". I've lived good part of my life chasing these ideals, being a copycat, and actually believing all of this bullshit.

It feels a bit like I'm a blank cavas who has been painted on by many different factors, and I'm not really myself.

I've been thinking about this a lot and I can't help but suppose that there's nothing as being yourself, people just are the result of the immediate envorinment, combined with their "original, primal self", as I'd like to put it. The result being what you see in the world, a lot of different people.

If anything, if one cannot find the answer to the question I ask here, I understand that he should pursue a hedonistic lifestyle, without any greater goals other than the immediate comfort and pleasure. After all, if you can't figure out the right thing to do with your life, then just try and take everything out of the material world, this is what I've been doing for some months now, but I can't get this thought - who am I? - out of my head.

The very idea of me asking you gentlemen this question is already a contradiction and counter intuition at best, because if I follow your own advice, I won't be doing something by myself - I won't be using my autonomy, figuring things by myself, exploring life by myself, values which I praise a lot personally (being autonomous and finding stuff for yourself alone). I'd be just be someone else, again.

So I need to ask if anyone can relate to this feeling that I have, if anyone has ever felt like it, and what did you do, I think I need help figuring out what to do with my life.

I'd like to add I'm just 18 and suppose I still have a long way to go in life.

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 No.28528

I don't think any shitter on an imageboard is going to be able answer those questions for you. Well, if I was to ask myself those questions my answer would probably be I don't know, and I don't care to know. You see it doesn't matter in the end, really.


 No.28532

Begin meditating, achieve enlightenment. Enjoy the rest of your life.


 No.28542>>28545

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The creative nothing!


 No.28545

>>28542

I've already read this term somewhere else.

It's something about philosophy, isn't it?

Care to explain what it means, exactly?


 No.28547

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 No.28642

>>28527 (OP)

You are a human


 No.28669

>>28527 (OP)

You have to decide for yourself what makes you happy. For me it's cool drugs, video games, friends and sex. I'd really like a girl someday that I can be best friends with and have a relationship with, but it's ok if I don't have that now.

Meaning is a weird way to put your life's function. Remember, if you don't have your own agenda you will become part of someone else's.

I used to listen to people about what I should do with my life, I was miserable and I wasn't in control. Now I am the master of my existence and I decide the fate of my world. I'm in control because I just took control. It's right there.

Keep your head up! You will understand what you really want if you just be yourself, and that's all you need to be. You aren't obligated to anyone or anything, you only need to give yourself a chance to be right. Trust yourself, trust your heart and be free of the burdens that others impose on you. Don't worry about it. You are in control now.


 No.28727>>28728

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>Who am I?

Well, who are you? And who is who anyways? How do I know I'm not you, and that you are not me? Because we perceive things from a single perspective that originate from a single point in space and time. That single point that we are aware in, and perceive the world in is just that, our awareness. We are our awareness. This is a logical conclusion of course, which can be concluded by means of deduction.

First, to find the self, we must destroy identification with parts of ourselves that aren't really the self. This can be broken down into senses, emotions, and the mind. For these things exist to output information, but output to what exactly? Output to our awareness. For these three parts of the carnal self all are ways that our awareness can perceive the world around us. For they require an input (which is the forever changing world) to an output (consciousness). Without these three tools of which we perceive the world, our soul can never change. For without it, it can experience no relativity, for example a soul outside of the body lives in a realm without space and time, a realm of objectivity, a realm without relativity, for it has no body to experience relativity(AKA to perceive change).

Now some may be at this point harboring thoughts that the soul is of the mind, but I assure you it is not, and that it is an eternal part of the universe. Because the first law of thermodynamics state that nothing can be created or destroyed, then how does our awareness come to be? And how can it exist without our body? Well the guaranteed truths of the self lies in the fact that awareness is separate from the senses of which are used to perceive the world, but are connected with them. Now, the argument that I wish to counter is

>our brain creates this sense of awareness through its function, so that the senses have an output.

Clarification : When I say senses at this point, my definition is "the means by which we perceive the world"

My imaginary opponent has made a valid point here, but this point only matters if we wish to cultivate our souls. Of which will be the next step for people who answer the question "Who am I?" Because once we have dissected the self and identified it's core components and core meaning, we wish to cultivate it, for the soul is eternal, and perhaps the very purpose of us inhabiting these temporal bodies is to cultivate our very souls. But how would one cultivate the soul? One would do this by giving it freedom, nurture it, love it, and give it time to experience itself not just senses. For that is true meditation. Not merely a mental focus on the senses, but a soulful focus on the soul itself, of which would destroy the desire of the soul to harbor a body, and achieving what the Buddha called nirvana.

And to answer the aforementioned question, Regardless of whether or not the soul persists immediately after death, it must be reborn at some point in time in the universe if time is infinite, meaning that every possible scenario will exist an infinite amount of times. Therefore you will live an infinite amount of times, because the exact formation of the mind that creates your consciousness will occur an infinite amount of times. But if time is not infinite and you will only exist as a conscious being manifested into the human form once, then why not pursuit autonomy, and pursue a greater life by your own means instead of the means of others, including by the means of your own desires. To pursue inner peace and control of the self. What value is greater than control of the self? I don't think hedonism is worth the tradeoff of temporal pleasure through the senses in exchange for loss of control of the body of which we inhabit.

Sorry for going on a bit of a rant towards the end, but I feel it was necessary to fully satisfy your question.

Thank you for asking such a wonderful question, and if anyone sees any flaws in my logic then please bring it to my attention, or if any others are curious enough to ask me a question know that I will answer them POSTHASTE.


 No.28728

>>28727

Oh and btw it's easier to cultivate the self when there are no distractions, so do your body a favor and eat healthy and do exercise, as well as do your mind a favor by reading books or whatever that strengthens the mind, you do this so that you can focus on your self, otherwise the body is really naggy and demands a lot of attention from your awareness and it gets annoying so might as well do some good right?

Reading that passage over again I may have made some errors by not answering all of my own imposed questions thoroughly but after all I'm not doing so hot in school atm… and English has never been my best subject but hey, maybe I might have helped someone realize the things I have realized, and that's all that really matters to me at this point.


 No.28731

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Morning /kind/. Morning OP. Just keep fighting. Fight for a better tomorrow! Gambatte

We can make it friends. Be sincere and honest with yourself. You have basic desires you want fulfilled. Strive to see your noble goals achieved

FIGHTO




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