/kind/ - Random Acts of Kindness

W-whatcha like?

Do you not have any excuse to get away from your computer (where I imagine you get it)? If you have something fulfilling to pursue then you don't think about sex as much. Exercise, a creative hobby, a club, ect. It doesn't make it less of a struggle or a problem to be taken seriously but plenty of people here probably look at porn a lot so it's not as if you're an odd one out.

If all else fails save up for a chastity belt. (^:

All joking aside sorry you're having a rough time.

To what extent are you porn addicted, OP? A bit of porn collecting is normal for someone at your age. I take it it's interfering with your school life?

How much time is it taking from you, and at what times do you generally indulge in it? Breaking a habit can be as easy as finding something else to do at that particular time.

>>25163

Porn is always a destructive hobby. There are always much better things to be doing than jacking off.

>>25175

>son of a pastor

I know religious environments can be a bit uncomfortable but this is something men feel. Whether your dad be a pastor, a police officer, or a prostitute (the alliteration and theme was too tempting, forgive me) he should be able to understand (though, like, up to your judgement on whether to have faith in anyone to talk to). You can only worry about how you can move forward and overcome, not that you have the trouble in the first place.

>>25182

>anger issues and pent up frustrations

This could also be hormones from puberty. I think you're scaring yourself with these thoughts of your family (but I'm no doctor). Try not to worry so much about it.

>>25182

Well it's not like seeing a therapist is a bad idea if you think it could help. Don't you think your parents are going to ask why though?

Don't let society shame you into feeling bad about your perfectly normal male sexuality!

Enjoy your puberty to its fullest, bro! Wish I did.

Here's a tip: next two times you get the urge, don't. Then the third time, you'll explode. It'll be awesome.

Then try holding it in the next three times, and on the fourth? KER-BLAM!!

Then holding it the next four times. Then five. You'll love it.

>>25179

It did not do that to me, and maybe that's because I have self control.

Self control is key.

>>25186

>Don't feel guilty about something you have no control over. It'll pass once you leave puberty.

You aren't helping him by talking like that. Porn addiction is a serious thing. I didn't touch the stuff at that age, and I still don't. It will fuck you up.

>>25187

>Don't let society shame you into feeling bad about your perfectly normal male sexuality!

Porn is not "normal," it is contrived and unnatural.

>>25204

> I didn't touch the stuff at that age

>It will fuck you up.

Do you see why you aren't very convincing?

How often do you look at porn, OP?

>as the son of a pastor it just kills me a little inside

Do you think your religious views could be giving you a negative opinion of porn?

>>25204

>I didn't touch the stuff at that age, and I still don't. It will fuck you up.

Ridiculous. Porn is not some hardcore drug. Porn addiction does exist, but it's far more likely he is simply being a horny teenager.

>>25204

>Porn is not "normal," it is contrived and unnatural.

Says who?

>>25212

I didn't even masturbate until I was 20 because I was guilt ed into believing my healthy male sexuality was somehow badwrong.

Try and guess how I turned out.

Hint: I'm here.

>>25214

Have you ever even seen porn? It's the dumbest fucking shit.

>>25215

Why did you break such a mighty nofap streak? You're dumb, friendgot.

>>25219

So is any non-sexual artistic medium. Yeah, it's usually pretty dumb or bad quality but someone not being able to tell if something isn't dumb (regardless of whether they enjoy it) has separate issues to work out. If there's any danger in porn it's a love of drawn characters that dwarfs real people (that and an aforementioned addiction which applies to anything pleasant).

>>25175

> I can tell I'm starting to view women a different way, which I'm afraid of.

Not a huge surprise I must say. Women are quite sexually expressive nowadays and big portion of mass culture is based on sexuality.

>>25204

>Porn is not "normal," it is contrived and unnatural.

Humans get ready for producing children far ealier than at 18, did you know that? Society wants people to not produce children and substitutes it with porn.

I hope that you do not imply the porn which is characterized by youtube series "PG Porn" - it's certainly not the only kind of porn.

Dude you're 15. Humans are biologically programmed to want to fuck like rabbits at 15. It's no wonder you love to jack off. It's cathartic and age appropriate.

start exercising

>>25311

I discovered that rubbing my dingaling made me feel really good at 8 years or so.

>>25325

Twice a day keeps boredom away imo.

>>25325

>just don't pass that limit

Why?

And who says there's a limit?

And who's to say what's "normal" and "not normal"?

>>25209

>>25210

I, however, did get involved with that stuff at that age - teenage years, till now (early 20s).It caused me significant distress, and what could be described as addiction to porn. Yes, including withdrawal symptoms (shaking, sweating etc)

>>25180

>This is normal, this is just something men feel, incl. OP's dad

Y'know, when I heard that line years back, all I took away was 'anything you feel is right and ok', 'everybody thinks these things' (how do you know what everyone thinks, feels?)

And I didn't believe that then, and wouldn't be okay with it if it was true. I'm still not, though I do think about it a bit differently than I did then.

I learned I didn't have to be 'okay' with it, but I did have to refrain from treating it like something catastrophic, regardless of how bad or not my thoughts were. Adding excess shame, anxiety is pointless, if only because it makes the original issue harder to fix.

>>25401

>Y'know, when I heard that line years back, all I took away was 'anything you feel is right and ok', 'everybody thinks these things' (how do you know what everyone thinks, feels?)

If you're unsatisfied with the answer you've been getting that what you're going through is something natural that men go through and you think anyone answering that way can't know what you're feeling then don't you think more details are necesary? Sell your situation here, for example what is it about your attitude towards women that has got you so upset? Do you think something's wrong with you for certain concepts that appeal to you? Overall how is it you compare yourself from now to the past if you had to say?

>>25154

OP, my child.

I have been where you are. You probably feel very conflicted with your sexuality and you don't need to.

You experience sexual desire and its okay.

You have a sexuality and its okay.

Don't stop fapping or cut off porn altogether. Find erotic content you're comfortable with, maybe expand your horizons a bit too, erotic literature can really help with this belive it or not. Find some fantasies you find enjoyable and "wholesome" to you and go with that.

I struggled with this for a long time, the self loathing, hating that part of you. It fucks you up long term. Every time I've had a sexual experience all I feel is overwhelming guilt despite how much the other person liked it or even if they said it was okay. You can't hate this part of yourself, its going to hurt you.

The best thing you can do is just try to interact with people. If you feel attracted to someone then try to do things, but if you feel desperate about it then you should stop, desperation will lead to something bad.

You'll make it, I promise.

>>25613

Not to bully, that's just awful to read. Grammar really is a requirement.

>If you're unsatisfied with the answer you've been getting (that what you're going through is something natural that men go through) and you think anyone answering that way can't know what you're feeling, then don't you think more details are necesary? Sell your situation here: for example, what is it about your attitude towards women that has got you so upset? Do you think something's wrong with you for certain concepts that appeal to you? Overall, how is it you compare yourself from now to the past if you had to say?

>>25726

I appreciate the importance of more punctuation but how you've placed the parentheses confuses the meaning of the one sentence by separating the idea inside from the "then" portion later. Also with the addition of the colon then "for example" and/or the following comma becomes pointless.

Need a distraction from jerking it OP? Argue about sentence structure with us. Next debate we talk about "its" and "it's".

>>25725

Not OP and don't totally agree with you, but methinks you're alright.

>>25613

Shit, didn't think anyone would reply/anyone would be left from migration.

-The height of these troubles occuring happened a few years ago, things are much better - but as to thoughts and attitudes towards women that disturbed me:

I had/have high ideals and aspirations regarding how people treat each other. Call it a love of virtue, to be vague.

The kind of stuff usually featured in porn mocks, deginerates and generally drags through the mud anything noble, genuine, dignified, or respectfully affectionate.

So yeah, since porn generally portrays values opposing my own, it was going to be a problem. Kinda scary, for (apparently) inescapable drives to drag you away from what you love.

I mean, I never asked for those desires, and they (back then) tended to push out how I'd normally wish to act/think towards women (with respect)and people in general, replaced with utmost selfishness.

-Did I think something was wrong with me? Of course. I generally thought differently to my peers, going by peers and teachers regular comments in that regard, so how could their thoughts and concerns reasonably resemble mine in the sexual realm, if they didn't ordinarily?

Furthermore, nothing in all the 'So you're going through puberty!' type books, sex-ed lessons, forums etc covered or even seemed to hint at the kind of thoughts that did appear in my head: incest, enslavement, rape and sexual violence, for starters - often out if the blue e.g. when talking to someone.(I'm not talking the 'nice' role-play versions.)

Shit's disturbing enough without the thought and suggestion dive-bombing you in public, while in the middle of something.

-I'm better nowadays. I always feared the only option out of that grating conflict was to surrender my values for these desires (fuck that).

I learned how to control my thoughts better (meditation), & adopted different attitudes which preserved my values (see my ' not something catastrophic' post).

Had some counselling/therapy, also did some ad-hoc art-narrative therapy by myself.

Apologies for long post and some autism.

…Also when is this board officially abandoned? I don't know whether to be here or on Next.

>>25782

So you feel better since you first posted this thread as well you mean?

How intrusive and sudden these thoughts are sounds like a tough problem but as far as you having them there's just a dark sort of half to our egos that we have to learn to accept is there. Lemme tell you how I see it. Growing up in a decent society (well assumptions where you are aside decent as they get anyway) we feel really pretty close with our empathetic side and that we're all supposed to cooperate and be pleasant and respectful. A civilized society is almost suffocating in a way to out baser animalistic minds but as a child one doesn't notice. Then puberty comes crashing down and everything suddenly has another characteristic or two to it, the world's essentially changed to be less innocent. It's rough, you thought things made sense but now you're sure they never did and you have unwanted feelings that you want to repress but at the same time like. What I'm trying to say with this rant of sorts I guess is that by nature we were all made to do bad shit like any animal but we try our damnedest to be the special awesome creature society and oneself convinces us is superior. I of course don't mean to belittle any qualities that one considers moral or ethical but we are not without nastiness which ultimately has always won out in history. -but while it seems terribly scary and unfortunate it's not reason to beat yourself up. You're a gentle soul who wants to be good, your fantasies don't change that.

…The hell AM I rambling about? This was about porn. Sorry, my autism is pretty out there too. If any of that you identified with or made you feel better then great but advice and personal feelings and opinions are just that.

>>25782

>I had/have high ideals and aspirations regarding how people treat each other. Call it a love of virtue, to be vague.

Same here, friend! Well, I suppose that shouldn't be too surprising, given that this is /kind/. I believe in goodness (though not in any esoteric or religious sense) and I want to see people treating each other well.

>The kind of stuff usually featured in porn mocks, deginerates and generally drags through the mud anything noble, genuine, dignified, or respectfully affectionate.

>So yeah, since porn generally portrays values opposing my own, it was going to be a problem. Kinda scary, for (apparently) inescapable drives to drag you away from what you love.

>Furthermore, nothing in all the 'So you're going through puberty!' type books, sex-ed lessons, forums etc covered or even seemed to hint at the kind of thoughts that did appear in my head: incest, enslavement, rape and sexual violence, for starters - often out if the blue e.g. when talking to someone.(I'm not talking the 'nice' role-play versions.)

You are into some kinky stuff, huh? I mean, this is not your average porn scenario we're talking about here. Typical pron is like:

"Hey I'm going to give you a traffic ticket."

"Ohhh you're sexy and I need a big dick inside me."

"Ok."

"Ohhh yeah baby fuck my pussy and spank my ass."

"Ok."

That's okay, though. I have some really fucked up fantasies too. Furthermore, in my fantasies, they are not "nice role-play" either. Rarely do they involve anyone from my day-to-day life, but sometimes they make their way into my idle fantasies.

The bottom line is that you are in control. You have your values. You're even taking steps to keep invasive thoughts and desires out.

In addition, you're hardly the only person who looks at porn where "anything noble, genuine, dignified or respectfully affectionate" is dragged through the mud, and allows it to stimulate the fucked up desires inside of them without succumbing to them. The fact is that as long as these impulses stay within the sexual sphere of porn and erotic fantasy, there is no difference between them and "nice role-play." Ask anyone who acts out rape fantasies with their partner, for example.

>>25174

Fapping in bed at night before I sleep is nice, I think. But I try not to fap to porn often, I'm always disappointed in myself when I spend an hour or more just browsing porn and masturbating. OP, I recommend you stop looking at porn, masturbation is fine but just use your imagination.

>>25788

I'm not OP, sorry.

I've been feeling better generally over the past 9 years, in phases.

>Dark half to our egos

Dr. Jekyll and Mr.Hyde was quite relatable to me in school.

>Less innocent

Less naive maybe, but I never want to become insincere. It's a theme a lot of my peers seem to have taken up - that since these desires exist, it's okay to have them as ulterior motives.

That's an interesting take on people in/and society. I consider it both a challenge and a merit to understand and master my own desires. In a way I don't accept the 'nasty stuff' in myself, but yeah I don't panic about it either anymore - cause that's counterproductive regardless. I believe that 'nastiness' doesn't have to ultimately win, on a personal level at least.

Cheers for your thoughts.

>>25794

>Same here

I appreciate that.

I certainly didn't feel in control for most of my teen years.

I value integrity (esp. for myself), so apart from concerns that said desires were leaking into/corrupting my personality, I am/was concerned about the blunt double-facedness of the situation.

Not saying necessarily that you lack integrity, but for myself at least, condemning something, then engaging in it (implicit approval) looks hypocritical.

Theatre-acting as Jack the Ripper is one thing, revelling in the murderous aspect of his character - to use a dramatic example. I see a bit of a slippery slope towards enjoying the taste of a different personality, and encouraging the growth of that in one's own personality.

Disclaimer: I don't blanket-disapprove of BDSM or other practices necesarily, but I think that play-acting, or revelling in fantasy of something over time could affect oneself, so one better understand and be okay with what alterations that could make to one's disposition.

>>25826

I don't feel bdsm is a gateway to acting criminally deviant to most people. -then again I'll likely stay a kissless virgin forever so what do I know? Any kind of power or pleasure can intoxicate you though, life's constant battle of discipline is a bitch.

>>25826

>I certainly didn't feel in control for most of my teen years.

Are you sure you didn't just revel in the thought of being an unhinged individual? Unpredictable, dangerous, etc. Lots of teens love to see themselves that way. But in the end, you didn't act on any of it. So were you really out of control?

>Theatre-acting as Jack the Ripper is one thing, revelling in the murderous aspect of his character - to use a dramatic example. I see a bit of a slippery slope towards enjoying the taste of a different personality, and encouraging the growth of that in one's own personality.

That's an excellent example. It reminds me of a more tired one: video games. You're often invited to revel in carnage, lawlessness, and cruelty. But all of that is just a "what if" thought experiment, not to mention pure indulgence. Then you come back to the real world.

Obviously, it does have an effect on you. But I don't see it causing unwanted or uncontrollable changes.

>>25829

Also kissless virgin here.

Should have made clearer, I'm not singling out BDSM in particular, only mentioned because it's more well known

Power and pleasure can intoxicate, can't argue with that.

>>25833

I really didn't revel in it. If anything I was somewhat preoccupied with either shutting these problems down, or shutting myself away from others so I couldn't be a bad influence.

I dunno if that's what most teens are/were like, but I didn't want to see myself that way - i was just scared that being genuinely unhinged was a real possibility, and that it couldn't be changed.

I didn't do anything to anyone, no. So was I really out of control? I'd argue that I was in a limited sense. I tried constantly to get some control over my thoughts and feelings through my teen years and failed more than I won.

My grades suffered substantially, anxiety went through the roof, hobbies disappeared, couldn't remember who I was as a person.

Most of all, I felt unable to make plans, because I couldn't reliably predict the choices I'd make over the next week.

It seems redundant to state that having failed to exercise control over a substantial section of my actions, feelings and thoughts, I was not in full control of myself.

As for the vidya/play-acting to real life influence, I don't think there's a straightforward connection between the two, but that usually there's some kind of effect. I've gained the ability to be indifferent to violence, gore and obscenity from watching the news, browsing the net… That's a change, and it's not even play-acting yet.

I used to be so hestitant of violence that I couldn't bring myself to shoot anyone, my first time playing Quake 3 in high school. Kept playing (all my friends were), and 3yrs later I had no hesitation left.

Real world is definitely another kettle of fish, I just don't think there's no connection between imagination and action. I wasn't then, and still aren't convinced that porn etc could be worth the risk.

Again, things are much better since my teen years.

I suppose OP's long gone?…

>>25847

>My grades suffered substantially, anxiety went through the roof, hobbies disappeared, couldn't remember who I was as a person.

>Most of all, I felt unable to make plans, because I couldn't reliably predict the choices I'd make over the next week.

That's interesting, friend. Do you know that you're describing what could be considered textbook "antisocial personality disorder," or "a psychopath" or "whatever you want to call the mental recipe for an irrepressible repeat criminal." Apologies if you've heard that before and tried anti-psychotic meds already.

Strong violent impulses, poor planning ability, dropping grades, inability to concentrate. They all point to that specific mental illness.

>As for the vidya/play-acting to real life influence, I don't think there's a straightforward connection between the two, but that usually there's some kind of effect. I've gained the ability to be indifferent to violence, gore and obscenity from watching the news, browsing the net… That's a change, and it's not even play-acting yet.

>I used to be so hestitant of violence that I couldn't bring myself to shoot anyone, my first time playing Quake 3 in high school. Kept playing (all my friends were), and 3yrs later I had no hesitation left.

I think about these exact things a lot. I've also been noticeable desensitized to violence throughout years of gaming, and I feel more confident in saying that I'd be able to take a life in a violent situation. Hate to say it, but Jack Thompson did have a point. Although, not the one he wanted to make, if you ask me.

Consider extreme sports. A skydiver gradually becomes desensitized to the fear of jumping from great heights. Is he more at risk of suicide because he is comfortable jumping from tall places? I'd say that he's merely more capable of suicide, should he choose it, but not any more at risk.

Perhaps you're right, and the exception is someone who is particularly mentally vulnerable, like a depressed person. But on the other hand, you have the argument of catharsis. The idea that by play-acting out your impulses, you can purge yourself of negativity and learn to be more in control.

>>25253

Man, that whole thing makes it seem like finding someone willing to fuck you is easy. I'll just walk down to the Person I'm Attracted to, and that is Attracted to me Store, and pick up someone to fuck.

Fuck off. Probably written by a woman.

Although I am glad that someone finally showed how nofap is bullshit.

>>25922

>I'll just walk down to the Person I'm Attracted to, and that is Attracted to me Store, and pick up someone to fuck.

There are ways to do this. Trouble is, it's "misogynistic".

I don't know if this is the place to post this, but you seem to be helping this guy with how he's fucked in the head, I also have problems relating to warped minds.

When ever I see rape or bullying I want to murder those people.

This rage takes over me and I can't focus on anything else.

When It's fiction I try to repeat to myself that it's just fiction, it's not real, over and over again, but it doesn't help.

And when it's real I can't calm down for days. I feel like I can't think straight, and I won't initiate violence against anyone else that doesn't deserve it, but I might instigate something if I see anyone harassing anyone else or otherwise trying to intimidate, dominate, control, or make people afraid.

I really am usually not violent, but when I see others causing people suffering and TAKING PLEASURE from that, I just go psycho and want to SLASH THEIR friendGOT THROATS DIE DIED DIEDIEDIEIDEIDIEDIEDIEIDIEIDIEDIEIDIEDIEIDIEDIEIDIEDIEDIEIDIEID

>>25154

If you can find a sex addicts anonymous/porn addicts anonymous group in your area, I recommend you go along.

Find some excuse to go out, say you're in a club or some shit.

The 12 step program works for addictions that aren't drug-related too.

Just make sure it's a non-religious group or ignore the religious parts of it - this may go against your upbringing but I can't stress enough that when you're battling addiction, the last thing you want to do is go and complicate it by adding in religion too. It's just putting another dimension onto an already-complicated issue.

Also I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that you've had a relatively strict, moralistic upbringing (I could be wrong though). If that's the case, consider the possibility that your addiction has perhaps grown from a natural response to this restrictive environment - sexuality and the sex act appeal to your because they're "taboo" and "forbidden" so to speak.

Best of luck.

>>25929

I don't think so.

I mean, I had weird sexual experiences between the ages of 6-9, but it was always with other children of that age, and no adults ever did anything to me.

As for other types of abuse, I can't recall ever being hit or screamed at by adults.

I don't think it's abuse anon. I can see why you would think that, but I think it's something far stranger.

>>25996

Keep it sfw please.

porn is a really unhealthy passion, I went through a phase like yours, too. tbh, it's probably just your hormones.

Im struggling with porn too. Last week I wasted 140$ on a 1tb hard drive (already full) and a tablet exclusively for porn, worse is the tablets screen is dogshit so I pretty much lost 50 on it. If only I were rich I wouldnt mind it but im not. I want to dban that hard drive so badly, then I think about the close to 100hrs downloading, cleaning and organizing and im not sure anymore.

Im 24 so I think its an actual problem here, I noticed I tend to do it as an escape mechanism more than horniness, I'm 1 step from dropping out college for good.

pls help, convince me to get rid of my hard drive

>>26065

Nope, normal mechanical drive, I should add I also got an expresscard usb 3.0 adapter, a usb 3.0 case, and a usb 3.0 sd reader, all adds close to 100 but I dont feel guilty about those parts because I'd have got them sooner or later anyway.

Your logic is the same as mine, its hard to find this crap again so it becomes hoarding more than anything.

I dont even know what im trying to escape from, I have general anxiety and depression, and im so behind my lectures that its pointless to try at this point. Hoarding porn takes my mind off from my problems and makes me feel like I accomplished something, considering where im in life even the smallest things have a positive effect. Its pretty much the only 'project' I can look forward to. Seeing as im about to get kicked out of school the school counselor is not an option, I have no money and my dad is getting really fed up with my shit.

Im thinking of a system that locks me out of accesing the data but without permanently losing access. Something like setting up an access password, write down the password on a txt file, delete the file and have an automated email sent to me after a month. Encrypting would be a fucking pain in the ass, processing that much data could take days. I'll have a look at that later. Then again I was cursed with finding some great porn sites 1 click away.

>>26006

I thought I was going through a phase, now I'm 25

>>26114

>>26114

>draw sexual energy up spine

how do?

>>26114

Sounds like a bunch of new-age hippy bullshit and pseudo-science. Refer to >>25253

>>26143

If you were a scientist, you would approach it with a scientific method. You disregard it because you spiritually, subconsciously get the cues what I talk about is

>new-age hippy bullshit and pseudo-science

And you get these cues because of cultural paradigms imprinted on your mind, telling you what to think, manipulating you the same way it manipulates all religious people.

>>26114

When I first realized I had a problem I spent a good chunk of time researching how all this hormones-fapping-porn works. Unfortunately I couldnt come to a definite conclusion. The brain and human behaviour are too complex to do so, add in factors like depression, erectile dysfunction and you can see how every case is unique. The personal conclusion I drew from all was that porn in excess is indeed harmful, at least it is for me. How much it takes to consider it an excess? I have no idea, if I had to give an answer itd be when youre not even getting that much aroused but still cant stop watching it. By the way I once managed to do a 10 months no fap and that was before I was even aware of what no fap was. I never experienced the microorgasm youre talking about and only 2 erotic dreams without cumming in 10 fucking months so I know the pressure buildup thing is not always true. Now that im sort of cured I can go easily weeks without fapping, but porn? Thats another story and I personally feel physically different after binging whether I fap or not as opposite to quickly faping. Bottom line is you can actually masturbate a couple of times a week without problems and even use porn only but when masturbating, otherwise youre wasting time and harming your brain.

If I understood your post correctly, what youre suggesting is like a refined version of edging, which is ultimately harmful because puts your brain under the prolonged influence of orgasm chemicals. And honestly like the other anon said the "draw your sexual energy up your spine to the tingling place in your forehead…" part takes away credibility and makes it sound like new age crap.

This site https://nofapsolideo.wordpress.com/2012/12/12/the-physiology-and-endocrinology-of-sexual-arousal/ is an interesting read, dont take it at face value, the guy provides some sources and in my experience some of it makes sense.

>>26141

Put your pinky finger slowly up your ass.

I find 3DPD porn mostly gross.

Am I normal?

>>26209

Fake boobs, fake love, ugly unclassy people, no cuddling.

>>26210

>Fake boobs, ugly unclassy people

This is mostly true for mainstream pron, which has been dropping in revenue continuously since more personal, amateur content has become available. Although personally, I think the trashiness is fun in its own fetishistic way.

>fake love, no cuddling

I don't mean this as a childish comment, but it sounds like you do indeed have a more feminine taste. Most fellas can satisfy their sexual urges completely separately from these things.

>>26208

More and more the norm as many negative factors progress in my pessimistic opinion.

>>26208

>>26210

Look up amateur porn, its close to the real thing. Though you wont find true love in it, in fact I think finding actual lovemaking is nearly impossible because who in their right mind could care about taping themselves when fucking with love?

If you need cuddling and kissing some escorts can do it.

I went on no fap this summer and my libido actually went down, not up. I used to fap every day, now I don't care. I wished it would give me more daily energy for my creative work but it's not the case. I can get hard and have a lot of orgasms, but I'm never horny. When I see arousing images on imageboards I get very slightly aroused, but I don't have "the rushes" I used to have in the past (I'm 23 now). I don't get aroused by real women much and I don't experience loneliness.

Anyone else experiencing this? I took up cold showers, became obsessed with healthy diet, started exercising more, took aphrodisiacs like maca root, but I'm still somewhat detached from all sexuality.

Should I perhaps start fapping every day to fix myself back?

>>26224

If you don't mind lesbian, Gachi Yuri has some of this in the second vignette. Even though it's them cosplaying as anime characters, the way the two girls hug and snuggle and kiss so passionately right between finger-banging and boob-licking is actually kind of comfy to watch.

>>26280

Yes, it was the first time watching a hardcore porn and for the most part just thinking "Aww, that's cute!" and "That's so sweet, hee~"

>>26274

I listened to your advice and edged for whole day yesterday, first time in a very long time.

I noticed I keep deriving pleasure from contractions behind my balls (somewhere inside my ass?) instead of my dick. My whole body also gets really hot. Back when my libido was high, I'd generally feel it only in my dick.

Could it be my sexual patterns had been somewhat rewired? It would explain why I'm not actively horny. I wonder if it's dangerous and whether it has to do with hormones. These brain-melting contractions behind my balls feel a bit too good to be true. I woke up and I'm still pretty high from the edging. I had to drive somewhere but I can't, I'm incredibly dissociated and brain-melt

>>26375

>>26382

>These are not the same thing at all

After reading the thread and stuff on the net I understood edging is good because it trains your stamina. Quality > quantity etc. less ejaculation, but more practice. I thought this is what you meant?

>You might try a butt plug or prostate massager

I get it that the good feeling comes from inside, but inserting anything inside completely ruins it. I found prostate but as soon as I get anywhere close to it with anything, I think it automatically "deactivates". I guess the internal organs have their own intelligence and don't want to be touched?

When I'm 80% close to ejaculation, I just tense my legs while sitting on the edge of something and my prostate (?) starts to orgasm. I don't feel pleasure in penis at all, only pleasant buzzing in ass. Theoretically I could keep doing it to infinity, but after a few hours I became really high. Have you ever laughed so much your stomach muscles started to get really tired, yet you couldn't stop? It felt a lot like this, except it was muscles contracting in ass and not in stomach. Eventually the muscles became so "tired" by the constant laughing-like throbbing and contracting, that I zoned out. And when I woke up from trance some 50 minutes later, I was still orgasming. I curled myself in the corner and just kept orgasming there while staring at phone menu for no reason. As I'm writing this, I'm still kinda high. I just want to sit by the window and look at birds for hours

>>26387

Sounds like a great prelude to some sexual meditation.

>>26387

> I thought this is what you meant?

Most folks have a fapping habit where they "rub one out" every day. As in, they cum at least once, and don't really waste that much time fapping unless they're particularly horny.

> I guess the internal organs have their own intelligence and don't want to be touched?

Generally, it's supposed to feel good down there. Did you just use your fingers? The key seems to be the constant pressure you get with a toy.

>>26394

As if anyone in this thread wouldn't study to be a cock-o-mancer.

>>25154

How the fuck can you be addicted to porn? Unless you're jerking off like 10 times a day, that is no addiction.

>>26401

Hey. Hey. No bully.

You can get addicted to pretty much anything under the right influence and while porn put doesn't something in you like a drug you can develop thay need-like feeling from the posisitive input. Being a sex thing of course the draw is huge for men.

>>25154

>if you guys hav any idea/advise to help a person overcome by themself, please tell me, and have a wonderful Sunday

Treat it like any other addiction. You know, quitting smoking or drinking or heroin isn't easy but people do it all the time when their life bottoms out. If your porn habit is truly a "huge struggle in your life" then it's just as serious as any other narcotic or drug addiction. Approach it from that perspective.

Well, as this seems to be a masturbation thread, I'll ask you guys one thing.

Is masturbating once a day normal? Is it too much daily dopamine? 17 years old, soon to be 18, I masturbate once a day, but sometimes I do it twice or twice, but those days are far in between and usually after short breaks from masturbating

>>30721

Well, I personally jerk off once a day. Less if I am busy, more if not. I pretty much jerk off when there is nothing better to do (or there is but I am not motivated enough to do them). Fapping is easy and pleasurable, can take you as long as you want (From 5 minutes to some 4-6 hours, the longer he better ofc), is free and mostly harmless. Probably the reason why it is so crippling, it is simply such an easy and effortless reward…

>>30734

Thanks friend, I'll try to carefully look into the subject. I'm at biochem after all, I will get to it eventually

>>30744

>things_that_really_happened.png

>>25154

I don't know how much porn you count as "addiction". If it's to the point that it's getting in the way of other aspects of your life, then sure, see if you can tone it down a bit.

Otherwise, my advice is this: you have to learn that sexuality/masturbation/fetishes are NOT immoral. I was raised in a fundamentalist Evangelical Christian household, and due to constant indoctrination about the evils of lust (and not having my own computer) I didn't fap til HS. I felt awful and guilty on my first few faps, but after a while realized that I was happier and had my sexual urges better controlled than the years I spent bottled up, with literally no release besides the occasional wet dream.

If you want to limit your faps to feel more in-control of your life, I dunno how to do that really, as it never got to that point for me, but if it's some moral or religious hangup, my only advice is to look at it logically, see that you aren't hurting anyone, and go fap to your heart's content.

>>30836

Woah that´s a bit too drastic don´t you think? If you want to make sure it´s gone for good delete your hard drive free space right now so you can´t recover it later.

>>30837

Drastic? If anything it's ineffective since porn is so abundant on the internet, and about as easy to access as a folder.

>>30837

I'm not worried about recovering it, I'm not really that addicted; I'm just lazy and don't have a lot to do so I tend to masturbate instead of spending time on more constructive things.

>>30838 is right as well, but with my porn folder went my firefox profile I used for bookmarking porn sites. My goal is to cut back to occasional sadpanda visits. There's something about 2D that makes it feel a little more wholesome, maybe I'll eventually cut the hardcore and stick to light ecchi.

>>30844

>2d lewd is more wholesome

Anybody else also think so? Why do you think it is so? I'd say it's because:

>the situations are fictional, no one had to whore themselves out to make the work

>nobody is harmed, no happy merchant rubbed his hands, no AIDS was transmitted

>the scenarios in vanilla 2d tend to focus on loving relationships, as opposed to the shit you find on pornsites

And, well, if you have a waifu, then - depending on how you approach it - it's basically sex with the girl you love.

Don't worry about it.

Just don't become demanding with your porn interests.

Porn's healthy for the mind, just the porn's average community could be toxic.