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 No.24646>>24675 >>24691 >>24922 >>32010 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

I'm about half way into my Middle-Level Education degree and the reason I chose to one day be a middle school teacher (instead of a high school biology/chemistry/physics teacher for my love of science) was because I felt like my middle school teachers really didn't help me develop socially, emotionally, mentally, etc. or really cared enough to even get to know me.

So of course that didn't help at all with my painful shyness, social isolation, consistent sadness, or problems at home. Luckily, I learned to overcome these problems through time, but having a caring teacher could have made a huge difference earlier in my life.

I want to be a teacher that makes that difference and takes the time to notice if a student is having problems and act on them. I see a lot of posts about how some of you started feeling isolated and depressed around the middle school ages (12-15). What could a teacher have done to help? How can a teacher show that he/she cares? What advice can you give to a teacher to help students emotionally?

 No.24651

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be careful with this you need for people to ask for your help especially with these issues or that age unsolicited help will probably have the opposite effect

that being said I've had clinical depression most of my life and it was only diagnosed recently after a major episode but having someone notice I was having problems before that probably would've been nice

also if you want to be this kind of person you need to be approachable and safe your students should want to talk to you be able to talk to you and feel they can trust you not to divulge what they tell you to their parents or anyone else


 No.24655>>24657 >>24671 >>24675

So let's say you start teaching, and you hear about one kid being bullied by everyone, but that kid isn't reporting it. What do you do?


 No.24657

>>24655

bullying is a whole complex issue in and of itself

but again as the teacher you need to be careful how you approach the situation it's easy to go about it wrong and draw more attention to the kid and cause him to be bullied more

if I had to come up with a suggestion first thing is to nonchalantly rearrange the seats at random the further the victim is usually from the bullies and the further the bully is from his usual friends and audience the less they'll feel like bothering

step 2 requires some honest to goodness spy craft because you need to talk to the victim himself about whats going on but none of the other students should noticed you singling him out even if they're not the bullies rumors spread

if you can get him to open up to you it's important to confirm and clarify the story but the best thing to do would probably have him transfer to another class as any direct preferential treatment or protection from you would again just draw more undue attention to him

but their are limits and rules about what you can do so be careful not to promise anything you can't deliver


 No.24671>>32065

>>24655

I would try finding out who is actually bullying the kid. If it really is "everyone" who does little things to pick on him, I might take some time during my class to talk about how bullying affects people and bring up some stories from my own experiences.

From then one, I would do my best to try to catch any sign of bullying and inform the other teachers in the grade to do the same.


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>>24646 (OP)

gross picture

>>24655

join in


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>>24646 (OP)

I was a depressed shitter from the age of 12 to 18. A handful of teachers showed interest in me, and tried to help in their own way, but none of them tried to understand me (a difficult task seeing as I didn't even understand exactly what was wrong with me at the time). They didn't know that my depression was caused by stress, which was caused by the social anxiety disorder I was trying to cope with. In the end, all they did was stress me out more. Hated them for it at the time. Good intentions without the knowledge or competence to back them up can be detrimental. Respect boundaries, don't be overbearing, you can only really help people who are willing to help themselves, blah blah blah.

Also, I wonder if you'll actually stick to these ideals when you're met with the shit-salary, workload, and misbehaving kids (all assumptions, just know that's what teachers have to deal with where I live).


 No.24698

I could never be a teacher let alone try to be a decent one. Hats off to op and good luck with kids that have trust issues. Also be aware of if a kid has trouble with certain teachers, thats all i have to add.

My high school was run by men in dresses, one is in jail now.


 No.24717>>24786

Schools are glorified prisons. Anyone who takes advantage of children for a living is a monster.


 No.24786>>24793

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>>24717

Dude, take it easy. I want to know why you believe what you believe. What informs your views on education?


 No.24793>>24797

>>24786

to be fair I never really learned much of use in school so I can see why one would think their primary function is child containment


 No.24797>>24798

>>24793

To be fair, you aren't being fair at all. I was taught useful skills in school, and I could have learned much more if I applied myself. I mean, my teachers are the reason why I'm literate.

>grammar

You must be a lower-class burger or you think imageboards are IM. Either way, I guess it depends on where you live, and which class of the socio-economic hierarchy you were born into.


 No.24798>>24805

>>24797

obviously I learned things in school early on like literacy and math but as a whole compared to the amount of time I spent in school in total I didn't learn much I could use or even remember your example misconstrues the facts by taken too small a sample of what is considered school


 No.24805>>24806

>>24798

>the amount of time I spent in school

I think that's just how education works. It can take someone a relatively long span of time to just learn the basics. That's what school is, learning the basics, which is simply the gateway to attaining more advanced/specialized/useful knowledge in college. If you think of it that way, the time you spend in school was spent preparing you for higher learning. In short, it would have been useful if you had been diligent and used it as it was intended to be used.

Also, I took a couple of optional classes that thought me how to take care of myself as an adult. If someone wanted to be a photographer they would take the optional classes that related to photograph, which would help them get into a college that specialized in that field of study. There were classes like that for almost any profession you could think of. Very useful if you chose to make use of them.

I'm guessing you didn't go to college. That's fine, neither did I (not yet, anyways). But calling school a prison, and teachers youth exploiting monsters is just too absurd (ignore this if you're just an interloper, and not the guy I originally replied to).

>even remember

Which is based on retention, which the quality of can be vastly different from person to person. How often did you study, pay attention in class, and do homework?

The problem with this 'discussion' is that the subject is highly subjective.

>misconstrues the facts

Q.E.D.

Sounds subjective, so who's interpretation is correct? And how do they know for a fact that their interpretation of the "facts" is correct?

>too small a sample of what is considered school

You expected me to cover the expanse of something as subjective as "what is considered school" in my post? Unreasonable. I simply named one useful skill I was taught in school. I don't know what else you expect me to say.

Wasn't trying to make this into an argument, just wanted to understand the guy I was replying to. But whatever.


 No.24806

>>24805

>optional classes

Umm, they were optional in the sense that you had to take two or three each year (starting from what is commonly known as "middle school" onwards) but you could pick which ones you wanted to take.


 No.24922

>>24646 (OP)

I was heavily depressed in middle school.

I was friends(still friends with one of them) with two other social outcasts, one who had ADHD and acted out a lot, and the other just socially awkward and strange. I was the fat and dumb one.

We were the kids that ate lunch in the guidance office. It was kind of fun though, like we had our own room and club and we didn't have to be around other kids, so i really appreciated that.

The teacher I remember appreciating the most was my health teacher. She was always very kind to me,and there was this one time where we brought in health foods and stuff, but I thought i couldn't participate because I didn't do the project, or bring anything, but she didn't care.

The worst days were when I was denied eating in that office, or when kids picked on me. There was this one kid in particular whom I hated with everything I had.

A short little shit who was behind me once making fun of me, and then tried to play it off like "it's just a prank bro,"

Later in high school when he came to school drunk after a break up I was so happy. It felt like justice. To this day, fuck that kid.


 No.32010

>>24646 (OP)

Ah man, middle school is shit for most people, I was fairly social, but had anxiety problems, luckily the fact that I was bigger than everyone else made very few people willing to pick on me. By high school I settled into a persona and the anxiety pretty much stopped until senior year.


 No.32024

How the fuck do you guys even remember middle school that well. I barely remember middle school teachers or classrooms. I don't think there was much bullying, hell broke loose only in high school.

It feels like trying to remember a dream, it's like a whole different world, and I'm only 23.

I'm just sitting there with this post on my screen trying to remember things for hours and it feels surreal.


 No.32065

>>24671

>I might take some time during my class to talk about how bullying affects people and bring up some stories from my own experiences.

THIS is something you should never do, irl bullies give a zero fuck about those sob stories, try to learn the kid who is getting bullied to defend himself so that he actually knows how to prevent those kind of conflicts from happening in his future life again.




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