c9ea8f No.677170[Last 50 Posts]
No longer content to hit simple cargo vessels, the US Navy has advanced to attempting to use other militaries' ships to sink its Ticonderogas.
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>Russia and the United States blamed each other for a near collision between their warships in the East China Sea on Friday with both countries accusing one another of dangerous and unprofessional behavior.
>Russia’s Pacific Fleet said that the USS Chancellorsville, a guided-missile cruiser, had come within just 50 meters (165 feet) of the Russian destroyer Admiral Vinogradov which had been forced to take emergency action to avoid a collision, Russian news agencies reported.
>They cited a Russian Pacific Fleet statement as saying the incident took place in the early hours of Friday morning in the eastern part of the East China Sea at a time when a group of Russian warships was on a parallel course with a U.S. naval strike group.
>“The U.S guided-missile cruiser Chancellorsville suddenly changed course and cut across the path of the destroyer Admiral Vinogradov coming within 50 meters of the ship,” the statement said.
>“A protest over the international radio frequency was made to the commanders of the American ship who were warned about the unacceptable nature of such actions,” it said.
>That version of events was rejected by the U.S. Navy, which said the behavior of the Russian ship had been “unsafe and unprofessional”.
>“While operating in the Philippine Sea, a Russian Destroyer…made an unsafe maneuver against USS Chancellorsville,” U.S. Seventh Fleet spokesman Commander Clayton Doss said.
>“This unsafe action forced Chancellorsville to execute all engines back full and to maneuver to avoid collision.”
>He described a Russian assertion that the U.S. ship had acted dangerously as “propaganda”. The Russian destroyer came within 50 to 100 feet of the Chancellorsville, he said, putting the safety of her crew and the ship at risk.
>The incident comes days after Washington and Moscow sparred over an allegedly unsafe spy plane intercept by a Russian fighter jet near Syria.
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224f3d No.677178
>>677170
>The Russian destroyer came within 50 to 100 feet of the Chancellorsville, he said, putting the safety of her crew and the ship at risk.
How long until the Russians publish dashboard footage from their bridge (with tasteful hardbass in the background) to prove this statement wrong and that it was another case of PMS in the officer of the watch on the American's side?
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687b30 No.677182
Given the track record of US maritime collisions, the USN is at fault.
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973a77 No.677186
>USN has long and proud tradition of crashing its ships into things
>HURRRR IT DA RUSSHINZ FAULT >:(
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034581 No.677190
>>677170
With captains using Garmin GPS and not using the subsystems built into the fucking ships, this shit is going to happen.
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e47bfd No.677191
>be CPT. Tyqueesha Jones IV of the USS Chancellorsville
>dis yo boat, nigga. You run dis hoe
>If only yo niggas back in the hood could see you now
>See a ship on the horizon
>This is the first time you've noticed or been informed of such, since your transgender sonar operator and demisexual radio operator are busy painting each other's toenails right now
>faggot-ass niggas
>turn to the Command Master Chief Petty Officer
>"AY NIGGA, GO GET DA LOOKING GLASS"
>He sighs heavily, grumbles an "aye ma'am", then heads off to find where you threw them the last time you got drunk on hypnotiq
>good times, boiiiiii
>He comes back 20 minutes later with a pair of binoculars
>you castigate him for being a "faggoty filipino bitch" and snatch them out of his hands
>You raise the binos to your eyes, and look at the other ship's mast
>Where yo colors be, nigga?
>You see the white and blue of St. Andrew's Cross
>BLUE
>THEM NIGGAZ BE CRIPS
>NOT IN YO HOOD
>NOT NOW NOT NEVA
>You immediately round on the rest of the bridge and start screeching GENERAL QUARTERS
>pulling the intercom out of the operator's hands, you start ooking and eeking at the engine room to get your ship within driveby distance of the crip's boat
>by now, the crew knows better than to protest against their esteemed black, female Captain
>50 meters away from collision, one of the last white SNCO's aboard the ship falls on his sword, and avoids a collision
>he was later court martialed
My interpretation of how all this probably went down.
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c9ea8f No.677203
The US has released some footage of the incident. The Russian is on our left, the American on our right.
It looks like both ships were on straight courses as far back as the wakes show. The Russians are the ones who avoided the collision; the Chancellorville made no attempt to avoid it.
According to the International Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea, Section II, Rules 15-17 (rules which have been the standard for long before that specific treaty) the Chancellorville was in the wrong:
>When two power-driven vessels are crossing so as to involve risk of collision, the vessel which has the other on her own starboard side shall keep out of the way and shall, if the circumstances of the case admit, avoid crossing ahead of the other vessel.
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943d04 No.677204
>>677203
>US releases proof they're the ones in the wrong to prove they're right.
Can this world get anymore ridiculous.
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14c483 No.677205
>>677204
You tempting fate, bro?
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5ae581 No.677206
>>677204
The people running the ship and the people running the PR office very likely don't know the rules. They probably don't know which side is starboard, either.
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c0df8e No.677208
>>677190
I wonder how a guided missile destroyer built atop libre soft+hardware with a GNU/crew under the command of Capt. Terry A. Davis would perform relative to contemporary warships fielded by major blue-water navies.
>>677191
>>677206
I wish this wasn't so plausible.
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034581 No.677210
>>677208
If you use FPGAs for hardware security and have a seed for the data transfer connections of your cables it should do pretty well.
The costs come from more the "overbuilding" of the entire thing and finding a way to standardize everything for missiles and such. Won't be impossible to do. Best example of GNU-materiel is probably the JF-17. It isn't much, about half of a MiG-35, but it's a good concept.
Use OpenSPARC or MIPS for the processors with some of your own SIMD instructions or just simulate them in a fuckoff huge FPGA and it should stay hardware secure.
If you redo your entire military infrastructure this way, you can probably ramp up wartime production as well since everything is freely available for the public to use themselves. Base both your military and civilian infrastructure this way and your country should run rather nicely. Hell, the US Military is already giving up MIL-STD-1553 for MIL-STD-1773 which is just a fancy way of saying Firewire.
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034581 No.677211
>>677210
>>677208
Forgot to mention, both China and Russia use MIPS and OpenSPARC respectively. There's more open source architectures out there, Terrascale is open for use without shaders for a VLIW core architecture that you can slap into a huge core cluster. Possibilities are rather endless right now. Pic related.
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c0df8e No.677217
>>677210
>>677211
<MIPS
<OpenSPARC
That said it would probably take quite an effort to standardize everything considering the amount of programming language autism among the FOSS community.
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234d97 No.677219
How the fuck do you collide ships? The ocean is fucking huge
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c5b80e No.677220
>>677217
Worth it.
Militaries should just be replaced with military autists.
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cc5c77 No.677222
>>677220
I don't think there would ever be any wars. We would all just be too busy asking if we could shoot/disassemble the other army's weapons.
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bdf976 No.677227
>“A protest over the international radio frequency was made to the commanders of the American ship who were warned about the unacceptable nature of such actions,”
That had better be diplomat speak for "someone got an earful of vodka fueled profanity".
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c0df8e No.677234
>>677220
>Militaries should just be replaced with military autists.
;_;
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34bd91 No.677239
>>677204
From the images it seems that the Russian vessel was going significantly faster and its wake isn't quite straight either. My guess is, they indented for the encounter to happen (probably with the regulations in mind) and were probing their adversary. If that is the case, you have to weigh the strategic ramifications of the way you're gonna react and not just blindly follow naval regulations.
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234d97 No.677246
>>677239
You are wrong and you have no proof. The USN has a proud history of near and actual collisions, and this incident is no different. If I take a shit in a bowl every day, and one day I squat over the bowl and spread my asscheeks, do you not assume that I am taking a shit?
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34bd91 No.677248
>>677246
The images are right there. You can clearly see that the destroyer is going faster and you can clearly see that its wake is not straight.
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234d97 No.677249
>>677248
The only thing not straight is your sexuality
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3470cf No.677251
>>677248
Are you interpreting that sort of hook-shaped feature as a turn? Because I'm pretty sure that's just the result of the wake dispersing over time. If it were a turn, it looks like the radius would be much tighter than the turn to avoid the collision, and I don't know if that's realistic.
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bb3643 No.677274
>>677219
Believe it or not there be lanes in the ocean people follow.
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3b3a18 No.677291
>>677274
Not the US navy apparently.
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f36d0f No.677292
someone should force both entire Chains of Command to enter a cage-match with 100 highest ranking officers on both sides and engage in painful physical combat for 3 minutes.
The boo-hooing over the minor injuries would last decades and even rival The Holocaust.
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a8599c No.677295
>>677292
Make the board of directors for Lockheed/Boeing/Raytheon/Honeywell fight to the death with a pair of toenail clipper too.
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943d04 No.677313
>>677292
That's about the only way the Russian Navy would crush the USN…
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0b519d No.677315
>>677313
>physical embodiment of le 56% face
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6ab169 No.677341
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476465 No.677342
>>677313
33% White
33% Jewish
33% Negro
1% Admiral
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34bd91 No.677344
>>677251
Looking at the Cruiser's wake, that one is completely straight. Of course I'm not saying that it was a huge maneuver, maybe it was a minor rudder turn that then dispersed over time as you say - but that is my point: it seems that the destroyer wasn't going completely straight, it was likely doing some course/speed adjustments, which would suggest they had the initiative.
Of course it's also quite possible that doing nothing was ordinary incompetence rather than brilliant strategic decision on part of the cruiser's captain. But those two things can be true at the same time. It's not like the Russian millitary is a stranger to initiating "dangerously close" encounters.
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7f0708 No.677352
>>677248
>>677344
That's wrong though. But nice fantasy interpretation of the pictures with no arguments.
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091edc No.677366
>>677313
Bloody hell, he looks annoyed just having his photo next to hers(?).
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943d04 No.677371
>>677366
It's how all Russian admirals look like. It's also how all US admiral look like even those has Aryan as can be.
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6a314d No.677373
>>677234
Comfy bombposting is the future of warfare.
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943d04 No.677375
>>677371
It's amazing given that they're old, how you can tell some of them spent their whole having that skin crawling fake smile on their face.
Even if culturally they must appear stern on portrait or something, look at french and British admirals, some smile but you can tell by their skin they didn't spent their entire life with their faces glued with a sociopath grin.
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7ea322 No.677421
>>677313
>Ethnicity?
<All of them.
>>677378
Completely uncontrolled race and ethnic mixing.
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9a7b99 No.677425
>>677313
>That's about the only way the Russian Navy would crush the USN…
There doesn't even have to be any action on the part of the Russian Navy, just give the US Navy time and it'll sink it's own ships through incompetence…it was happens when you champion and award people based on their gender and skin color for a forced diversity slot and then allow them to take a command position on a vessel in the surface warfare community…an engineer knows fuck all about surface combat or naval combat operations.
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2f0d12 No.677426
>>677425
Hey, if all this diversity crap continues, all the US military branches will collapse. Then, it'll be looting time.
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9a7b99 No.677427
>>677291
Think about it; you champion and award someone for their gender, skin color, ect… not because they're competent or skilled…then you place them in command of a surface warfare vessel…it's no wonder the Navy is slamming it's ships into anything and everything, these people in command of those vessels can barely operate without someone there to coddle them and make sure their ass is wiped for simply existing. Any kind of ship-to-ship combat for US Naval vessels is going to be a fucking Benny Hill montage, as the CO panics because they don't have the metel to do the fucking job, but hey at least we got some arbitrary "historical achievement" in putting the first Nuetro-Queer Non-Binary Equestriapod into a vessel command position.
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542c15 No.677433
>>677425
>>677427
I would not be surprised if all of the tankers in the Persian gulf that were mysteriously "sabotaged" were the work of the USN's bumbling incompetence. I also wonder if the Iranian's plan for defending themselves is to wear down the USN by attrition via cargo ship in the Strait of Hormuz
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6bec13 No.677436
>>677427
Since there hasn't been a major war for decades the military just like other parts of the first-world societies are running on marketing over substance.
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6bec13 No.677441
>>677341
relatedm more diversity signalling
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6a314d No.677443
>>677438
Report for reddit macros.
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6bec13 No.677448
>>677444
>ironic
>layers of irony
You can only have layers of ironic shitposting in a place with no quality control like Reddit.
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2f0d12 No.677449
Reminder to report any cuckchan posters.
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80ec80 No.677457
Cuckchanner taken care of
Also this >>677449
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d2086d No.677466
>>677190
>>677190
I know this is supposed to be parody, but I can tell you from first hand experience that this isn't to far from the case when it comes to Surface warfare officers.
>t. Gunners mate, currently aboard USS Ronald Reagan
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943d04 No.677470
>>677425
It was a pun on the fact that the Russian Navy is always the last leg on the Russian defense budget.
The only way the USN could be defeated is hurling their stupid amount ships into the areas the Russian ships, that are only geared toward area denial, are holed up, which is never gonna happen (same as the allied, despite complete naval supremacy, never tried to break into the Baltic in both world wars). That and senior officers duels.
I mean the Russians care about the sea so much their fleets have tanks battalions…
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c0df8e No.677472
>>677470
Seagoing tanks when?
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f4daec No.677473
>>677472
Come on, we all know already that they will just invade Alaska with a fleet of BMPs and BMDs.
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4180c4 No.677474
White Ruskies and Yanks are my ally so I hope they don’t fall for the wicked trick.
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091edc No.677475
>>677473
>Come on, we all know already that they will just invade Alaska with a fleet of BMPs and BMDs
No Ekranoplanes?
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4180c4 No.677477
>>677475
The appearance is so fascistic.
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943d04 No.677479
>>677472
They have some (the Sprut-SDM of the VDV) but for logistics reasons, the ones in the marine are T-80s.
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7ea322 No.677480
>>677441
>black
>when they're clearly different shades of shit
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4180c4 No.677481
>>677441
I feel sorry for the white criminals. They are going to be given more harsh punishments than the niggers.
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f4daec No.677483
>>677479
>for logistics reasons, the ones in the marine are T-80s
Is there a specific reason for that, or did they just dump their T-80s to the marines to ease the logistics of the army proper?
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943d04 No.677487
>>677483
The navy and naval infantry share logistics and the coastal defense and the naval infantry are supposed to share at least some of it.
That leads to a lot of weird things like heavy artillery in 130mm instead of 152mm and all tracked vehicles tend to belong to the MT-LB/PT-76 families.
The problem is that complex is quite old so they've gotten some BTR-82 as a stopgap and some T-80BV (and the BVMs are for them I think) as those are supposedly better in a marine/cold environment than T-72 (don't ask me why. Note that South Korea also uses theirs that way).
And it's complicated by the extension of the coastal units of the northern and pacific fleet into artic warfare for which the vehicles are still largely in prototyping (pic related is the only arctic IFV I know of and it's again a MT-LB).
So it's unclear what they're doing (they possibly don't know themselves).
Now the Sprut (litt: "Squid") was largely designed to replace both the PT-76 of the naval infantry (that itself were modded with 57mm naval guns in their last iteration) and the ASU-85 of the VDV but the main problem is it was on a BMD-3 chassis.
Now the VDV didn't like the BMD-3 IFV one bit, which led to the BMD-4 revision and finally the BMD-4M, so the Sprut-SD design was never finalized until the VDV main vehicle was ok.
So what could happen is for at least the naval infantry to switch to the BMD-4M chassis format of the VDV (Sprut-SDM1/BMD-4M/BTR-MDM/2S42 Lotus) and the coastal switch to T-80BVM/BMP-3/2S31 Vena to have at least some of the same spare parts).
But there is another problem is that the VDV has basically doubled in size, meaning they need a shitload of BMD-4 chassis.
And since the navy never has priority they will be stuck with leftovers or might transition to the new "armata" family chassis if deemed they need new stuff ASAP or even something else depending what they develop for the arctic.
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1c47f4 No.677493
>>677441
And that's why I left Harris county: the niggers, the spics, and the carpetbagging yankee bastards.
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9a7b99 No.677494
>>677441
Boy, is it going to be some kind of fresh hell for the citizens of Harris County.
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091edc No.677528
>>677477
Remember that the Ekranoplan was a 100% vodka fuelled endeavour. Was there any way that they could be built to handle rough seas? or was their need for calm waters just a meme? Because I would love to see a timeline where the worlds navies could dispatch Marine armoured battalions and mechanised infantry that could leave from Portsmouth and have no trouble hitting the beaches at (for example) Buenos Aires a few hours later.
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72535e No.677531
>>677375
it's the difference between a politician and a commander.
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943d04 No.677535
>>677528
>Was there any way that they could be built to handle rough seas?
Depends of two things. First the height they hover is directly proportional to their wing size (so the bigger ones "hover" considerably higher than the smaller ones).
Second it depends their class.
The Russian made a simple classification A B C for
A fly only as high as it cushion (early soviet design and current civilian designs).
B is capable of temporary gain of altitude (late soviet designs like the Lun, the Lun could go out by "very rough" sea relatively safely)
C is capable of proper fly.
They have another name for the C class it's Ekranolyet (the Sukhoi S-90-40 prototype from early 2000 pic related, is one, basically it's a cool as fuck seaplane that doesn't eat much fuel. There was no money for it though back then).
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091edc No.677546
>>677535
>the Lun could go out by "very rough" sea relatively safely
>the Sukhoi S-90-40 prototype, it's a cool as fuck seaplane that doesn't eat much fuel
Now they just need to find a way to make it submersible and load it up with a fuckload of Antishipping missiles, SAMs, and rocket launched torpedoes to hit every single naval meme sweet spot with one project.
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c0df8e No.677558
>>677546
>submersible seaplanes
Have we reached peak naval autism?
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2f0d12 No.677593
>>677558
We can always go further.
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091edc No.677610
>>677558
Am I the only one who enjoyed pic related then? Actually, excuse me, I've got to go reinstall it now Also, to be *peak* naval meme we'd need to make it capable of successfully ramming hostile ships, get the Americans working on that one.
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52efa5 No.677647
>>677558
>>677610
Wait, I got an idea for how to make this product of autism go further.
Give this ekranoplane the ability to launch smaller planes. Vertically launched.
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6b168e No.677650
>>677546
>every single naval meme sweet spot with one project
Where are the big guns?
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8fe4eb No.677661
>>677558
>>677546
>>677593
I think we can go further
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9f0fac No.677662
>>677661
Looking pretty swanky so far.
Say, you think it can hold or use midget submarines?
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8fe4eb No.677664
>>677662
There is a point where we needed to stop and we have clearly passed it but let's keep going and see what happens
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8363c2 No.677665
>>677664
Make it a troop/vehicle transport as well for those beach assaults.
Also, dazzle camouflage.
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091edc No.677666
>>677650
Isn't that kind of redundant on something that can fire cruise missiles? Then again if you can find a way to fit an Obrez'd Schwerer Gustav onto this thing then don't let me stop you. Maybe make the ASM and AGM barrel launched for shits and giggles. Keep the SAMs in dedicated launchers to go full macross any time the radar pings something above sea level though.
>>677647
What about a cannon launched drone? I'm sure we could fit a drone with folding wings into an 80cm bore. If we want it manned then the cannon is going to need to get bigger, unless you want to find a large number of hypermanlet pilots.
>>677662
If we've figured out how to make the Ekranoplan submersible then is there any reason not to make the drones/aircraft multipurpose as well? Granted they'd need to be either wire guided or entirely autonomous when they went underwater but I don't see any reason to be afraid of releasing thousands of entirely autonomous killbots into the oceans.
>>677664
>>677661
Nice art m8
>>677665
It shouldn't need too much modification to manage a beach landing - wing in ground effect aircraft can manage flying over flat ground so it could carry the marines a fair way up the beach before it pops smoke and opens the landing ramps. Also, for the camo, is there any reason not to make the skin a screen that can alter its camouflage or use dynamic camo? Something like pic related should work rather well.
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6b168e No.677667
>>677664
Can you add casemates?
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166379 No.677668
>>677665
>>677667
Kek, will get back to you guys after I'm done with the gym.
casemates make me diamond hard
>>677666
Thanks Satan
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8363c2 No.677669
>>677664
There are topedo tubes on SS Autism, right?
Also, since it's still technically plane, let's have it have bomb bays. Oh and rocket pods under the wings that can extract into the wing when underwater.
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8363c2 No.677670
>>677666
>hypermanlet pilots
kamikaze midget pilots for said drones?
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6b168e No.677673
>>677669
>rocket pods under the wings that can extract into the wing when underwater
You could have a conveyor belt like pic related. Of course only one half of it would be filled with rocket pods, and the other half is empty.
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091edc No.677676
>>677673
Is that some kind of rocket launching chaingun?
>>677669
>There are torpedo tubes on SS Autism, right
Wouldn't the Ekranoplan be faster than a torpedo? Launching a torpedo that starts tracking you when you overtake it a second or so after it leaves the tube doesn't sound useful. Put the torps in a VLS ASROC so you get to fire more than one from each shipplane.
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d19622 No.677679
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>677341
Operation Human Shield :^)
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513805 No.677689
>>677676
>filename
It's part of the tool changer for a CNC machining center. Each pocket holds a NMTB or similar, tool holder. In this picture it might be HSK. The conveyor brings the desired tool into position for a swing arm to grab it and transfer it to the spindle, where a pneumatic or hydraulic claw grabs onto a nub on the top and seats it firmly into the female taper.
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8fe4eb No.677690
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091edc No.677691
>>677689
Fair enough, I still think that a rocket launching chain gun would be a fun thing.
>>677690
As beautifully autistic as it is it still feels like it's missing something. The only thing I can think of at the moment would be making it out of Pykrete, but that's just retarded rather than interesting.
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6b671f No.677693
>>677441
Houston is severely underhated, easily in the top 10 worst cities in the country.
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dfc3cf No.677694
>you change your course!
>no you change your course!
Two powertripping retards try to outpowertrip each other.
Reminds me of a story:
>Gigantic US naval ship sails in the storm
>visibility is practically none
>sudden incoming transmission
>"hello, this is private Grigoryev, here at Mayak, please consider changing your course"
>"Hello, this is Officer Ramirez, US Navy, captain of the biggest US aircraft carrier with the capacity of deploying nuclear weapons. YOU should be changing the course right about now."
>"I am afraid this is not possible, please consider changing the course, there is not much time"
>"Listen, faggot, I am standing here at the platform that has several thousands of best US marines, with the armed capacity to destroy a small country, you don't know who you're messing with, retard."
>"Listen, officer, here's me and my hamster, we're out of fuel for 6 days, and all I have is a broken sks with one clip worth of ammo, but you'd rather shut the fuck up and change your course, because we're in a fucking lighthouse."
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6b168e No.677696
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>677694
It's an old joke that never happened in real life.
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69a2d8 No.677697
>>677690
>>677691
I think I got it.
It needs some SLBMs. That'll make it complete.
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8fe4eb No.677699
>>677691
>>677697
Obviously it's missing ERA armor.
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dfc3cf No.677701
>>677696
Duh.
It doesn't matter whether it did or not. What matters is that it could, and there has possibly been a similar scenario in the thread's topic.
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4ff253 No.677702
>>677690
>casemated guns
nice, but if I may recommend we do need some AA weaponry. Some simple CIWS and missile platforms should do. And >>677699
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091edc No.677703
>>677699
You'd need some fairly heavy duty ERA to deal with ASM
>>677702
Did the US/Russian laser CIWS projects go anywhere? You'd need an onboard nuclear plant to make them practical, but as this thing is entirely prop driven we could use that to run the engines, is there enough space left on the SS 'tism to add the facilities you'd need to keep the crew at sea for ~18 month tours?
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8fe4eb No.677706
>>677697
>>677702
>>677703
This is some Metal Slug boss level shit.
Im the only Serbanon in thread,Im just ID hopping
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091edc No.677712
>>677706
Now why can't any Ministry's of Defence fund something like this? The Burgers can find hundreds of billions for the abortion they're calling the F35 but nobody can spend a penny on something this fun. If governments are going to waste money on defence spending then it could at least be on something you'd feel happy to see in action.
It shouldn't be used alone - like a Metal Slug Boss - though, have groups of at least a few dozen of these beauties on patrol together.
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2f0d12 No.677716
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2f0d12 No.677719
>>677712
Because those ministries/departments are run by kikes, good goys following the smell of pensions, and boring normalfags.
>tfw no defense department made up of nothing but autists given free reign in their autistic pursuits
>tfw you won't see every country get in an autistic arms race over who can make a weapon to surpass metal gear
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4180c4 No.677720
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>>677712
Our governments is controlled by the traitors and kikes. If you want to /k/ volks to become the spacefaring soldiers to colonise the ecologically dead planet to expand the rabidly militaristic interplanetary empire then cull the traitors so the Jews may die from lack of hosts to leech on.
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943d04 No.677721
>>677703
>Did the US/Russian laser CIWS projects go anywhere?
Russian don't have a CIWS laser AFAIK, Germany does. Russian laser "weaponry" seems to be for jamming only either on the strategic level (to blind satellites and very high altitude shit, that's what the Persevet thing is probably meant for, they have two set deployed so far and they're in ICBM garrisons) or on the lower scale of the tactical level (DIRCM for flyers and possibly an infantry/vehicle born one).
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a276e3 No.677728
>>677706
The Codex Astartes approves of this shit right here.
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3470cf No.677730
>>677712
>The Burgers can find hundreds of billions for the abortion they're calling the F35 but nobody can spend a penny on something this fun
Honestly even setting aside fun things, openly wasting money on meaningless make-work projects would be better than the F-35. The F-35 looks bad when it fails, while openly make-work projects at least do what they're supposed to.
When half the reason for defense spending is so senators can say "look how many jobs we created!" during reelection campaigns, and the other half is to line their own pockets with shady deals to contractors, you may as well just do what richfags did a hundred years ago and say "I want you to build a replica of the Colosseum next to a tiny shipping village and fill it with statues of me".
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3470cf No.677731
>>677730
>shipping village
Fishing village, I meant.
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943d04 No.677739
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>677706
Change Gau-8 by AK-630M Duet and of course the casemate guns should be should be the twin AK-130 not two guns on a single mount.
Also the latest version of the Onyx exist in 6x mounts and they're dual use so the Tochka bay should be a nice complement of AA launchers.
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bb3643 No.677767
>>677706
That is about as rad as the Krajina Express.
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c68374 No.677768
>>677730
>>677712
Honestly this is pretty much the exact in game lore excuse given for the existence of the massive tanks and mechs in brigador.
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091edc No.677779
>>677721
OK, so we probably can't have overlapping laser emitters shooting down incoming missiles/aircraft that somehow get through the swarm of missiles fired at them. While that is a pity it does just mean we can use that space, weight, and power consumption for proper Russia tier EW gear. Which is probably more
useful, if perhaps a little less fun.
>>677730
>"look how many jobs we created!"
If that's what they want to do then there's a few million ways they could create more jobs for a fraction of the cost. If they desperately need to pay back their donors then just tell Lockmart & co to create 'Departments of Makework' so they can get a cut from Americas 'totally not a welfare' program.
>>677768
>Mechs created as a way to bloat the budget for political reasons
Well, I guess it's one of the more realistic ways to get something that retarded into your setting.
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c68374 No.677783
>>677779
>Mechs take considerably more maintenance than anything on wheels or treads. But when the War Council gets to see a new heavy legs unit put their foot straight through the top of a tank, it shakes the part of their brain that worries about money. I like to think the first mech field test was sort of like when the military first got real hot and bothered for helicopters back on Earth. They want the slick new stuff, who cares what it costs?
>Mechs are the standard-bearers, the cavalry, and the commanders all in one. Being taller means overlapping fields of fire with shorter vehicles, better top kill and defilade, and less trouble with comms in dense urban areas on account of the antennae height. Put them hull down ("kneeling") and you've got great defensive fire, perfect for covering infantry and powersuits.
>Despite how long mechs have played an active role in combat and police work, there's a segment of the Brass that still argues against them hard. They're "walking targets" that are "too expensive to maintain" and "damage roads and infrastructure because they don't broadly distribute their weight." Ok maybe some of that's true, but bureaucrats don't know what a psych-out it is to get stared down by a heavy. Gets you that fear deep in your reptile brain, sympathetic nervous system response. Also the part that worries about money.
Brigador is probably one of the most /k/ games there ever was to be honest. you can even drive a killdozer
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8fe4eb No.677811
>>677712
Because fun is not allowed apparently.
>>677739
I'm not sure how much more autism I can fit on it.
>>677767
TBH nothing is as rad as Krajina Express.
I have a pet project, a Sci-Fi universe that I'm working on has space ship named Krajina Express that the main cast and their mercenary company use as their base of operations. Sure it will get nowhere but its a fun way to kill time
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091edc No.678067
>>677811
>I'm not sure how much more autism I can fit on it.
I think you'd need to double the size of the image and vehicle to fit much more autism onto it at this point. Congrats anon, I think you've hit peak autism for that project at this point.
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eb96f5 No.678287
>usn manages to colide with dozens of ships and objects
>multiple ships laid up in repair yards
>lose captains and trained sailors in bullshit "accidents"
….
<russians did it!
LoL get the fuck out.
>>677191
This sounds like exactly what happened, the nigger was probably trying to prove xhirself and acted obnoxiously.
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eb96f5 No.678292
>>677696
>>677694
The reason why its an "old joke" is because it happens on a day to day basis. During cold war USN sank more allied shipping than the proverbial enemy, they simply are not trained on sea travel regulations.
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eb96f5 No.678293
>>677721
Look up Almaz Antey laser projects. Abandoned mostly for cost vs kill rate reasons, rockets are just better.
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feb45e No.678460
>>677313
I dont know what you are smoking but USN isnt even that good, they are used mostly for scare tactics against nations and in case of war to launch missiles against civilian targets because they know nobody will fire back at them.
>inb4 someone who jerks off to aircraft carriers comes defending them
Aircraft carriers are not just expensive but sitting ducks, 1 submarine can take out atleast 10 of them with ease.
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090a2b No.678461
>>678460
You know carrier groups are usually backed by anti-sub ships right?
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c68374 No.678464
>>678460
And how many aircraft launched from the carrier can the sub take out? dumbass. The real sitting ducks in a naval war are airbases on land and ships, both surface and submersible, with no air cover.
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feb45e No.678468
>>678461
>You know carrier groups are usually backed by anti-sub ships right?
Which was proven to be not effective at all, by the time those anti-sub ships react the damage will be done to aircraft carriers
>>678464
>And how many aircraft launched from the carrier can the sub take out?
Not sure if you are trolling or being serious, those aircraft cannot strike the submarines and they will have no place to go back to once they run out of fuel, concept of aircraft carriers in a full out war is very flawed and the fact US army is spending so much money on maintaining it shows how insane the whole Military Industrial Complex is.
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090a2b No.678475
>>678468
Submarines are actually easily targets to be taken out considering they are relatively slow compared to anti-sub planes and torpedoes.
What is really making headache for CAG is missile swarm tactics.
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091edc No.678476
>>678461
Search 'Swedish sub sank US carrier'. Then 'French sub …'. Exercises have shown that against sub drivers who know what they're doing the US carriers are basically free kills.
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090a2b No.678481
>>678476
I read that, and it's a war game where the carrier cannot detect the subs.
That is unrealistic for a CAG.
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feb45e No.678483
>>678475
only effective weapons against subs are torpedos and naval mines which means you need a sub to counter a sub
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090a2b No.678485
>>678483
Or torpedo launched by planes.
But it's also totally fine for a sub group to be in a CAG.
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6a314d No.678495
>>678483
Anti-torp mini-torp active defenses can work too. Allegedly Russian subs already have those so I don't see why capital ships can't.
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eb96f5 No.678518
>>678464
>And how many aircraft launched from the carrier can the sub take out?
All of them.
What a dumb question…
>>678485
There are problems with all sub hunting techniques, none of them are perfect.
For example airdropped torpedoes are only effective dropped from helicopters, yet subs can only be spotted by high flying airplanes, so you need whole fleets of aircraft flying nonstop to counter the danger of one submarine. And aircraft carriers generally dont have this kind of capability, its just not possible to carry the mass of aircraft that requires. Submarine hunting is instead outsourced to a lot of smaller ships dedicated to the task each carrying multiple helicopters for dropping torpedoes, and the fixed wing aircraft come from shores which limits their range and coverage only to defensive combat.
Right now theres no defense against a rtg/diesel-electric submarine for a fleet sailing longer than 500-1000km from American shores.
The serbro is exaggerating it would take 3-5 small electric subs to sucessfully sink a CVBG, but thats still 500 million dollars to effectively counter 12+ billion dollars. Thats how pisspoor countries like Russia can maintain power parity with the richest country in the world.
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41a1f6 No.678656
>>678518
Why not just strap a shit ton of mad detectors on a cheap missile and sweep it like a grid?
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af7c36 No.678658
>>678485
>>678483
4 words.
Missile launched torpedo warhead.
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ccd2ec No.678678
>>678518
>airdropped torpedoes are only effective dropped from helicopters
Why?
Are Jet aircraft too fast to safely drop a guided torpedo into ocean water?
t. only knowledge of airplane torps stems from WW2 flight sims
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