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There's no discharge in the war!

File: dd3a672eb189e6c⋯.png (431.56 KB, 621x401, 621:401, ClipboardImage.png)

8816f0  No.651247

A federal judge has ruled that a men-only draft is unconstitutional, but he stopped short of ordering the Selective Service System to register women for military service.

>The Houston judge sided with a San Diego men's advocacy group that challenged the government's practice of having only men sign up for the draft, citing sex discrimination in violation of the Fifth Amendment's equal protection clause. "This case balances on the tension between the constitutionally enshrined power of Congress to raise armies and the constitutional mandate that no person be denied the equal protection of the law," wrote U.S. District Judge Gray Miller of the Southern District of Texas.

>The lawsuit was filed in 2013 against the Selective Service System by Texas resident James Lesmeister, who later added San Diego resident Anthony Davis and the San Diego-based National Coalition for Men as additional plaintiffs. The two men had standing to sue the government because they were within the age range of 18 to 26 in which men in the United States are required to register with Selective Service.

>Coalition attorney Marc Angelucci said in a statement on Saturday that he is pleased with the court decision. "Forcing only males to register is an aspect of socially institutionalized male disposability and helps reinforce the stereotypes that support discrimination against men in other areas" such as divorce, child custody and domestic violence services, Angelucci said. "Women are now allowed in combat, so this decision is long overdue," he added. "After decades of sex discrimination against men in the Selective Service, the courts have finally found it unconstitutional to force only men to register."

>The government asked the judge to dismiss the suit or stay a decision until a national commission studying the issue of women's draft registration reaches a recommendation. The judge noted that could take years, and even then Congress isn't required to follow the commission's findings. "Congress has been debating the male-only registration requirement since at least 1980," Miller wrote.

>The government pointed to a 1981 U.S. Supreme Court decision that the Military Selective Service Act was constitutional as written, to exclude women, because women restricted from combat were not offered similar opportunities that men had. Miller found that reasoning no longer applicable, since the Department of Defense lifted all gender-based restrictions on military service – including combat roles – in 2015.

>The judge likewise disagreed with the government's position that drafting women would be an administrative burden and that far more women than men will be found physically unfit for service after being drafted. Congress has expressed few concerns about female physical ability, but did focus more on societal consequences of drafting young mothers to go off to war, Miller said. "If there was ever a time to discuss 'the place of women in the Armed Services,' that time has passed," Miller concluded.

https://archive.is/PBjJf

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/02/24/judge-rules-men-only-military-draft-unconstitutional.html

915a58  No.651248

>>651247

Finally, women can die for israel too.


b55476  No.651249

At this point I think some measure of accelerationism is needed to get people to understand the complete retardation of today's political sphere. I think this is a good thing; the US military would become extremely, wholly and completely pervasively ineffective in the event of the draft, and such a draft during a war will force the average passive retard to take notice of the cause.


d3ffa3  No.651252

>>651249

>if you kill yourself you win, goy!


cb3d6d  No.651253

good, the israeli american military will weaken even more now


e1947a  No.651258

>>651247

How about the draft being unconstitutional all together?

Plus, women have no place in the military combat roles.


33ddf1  No.651261

>>651258

Which will be inadvertently demonstrated when the 237th Draftette regiment (AKA: American Amazons) takes 75% casualties from a chilly wind working in concert with several unflattering remarks made by a hostile POW.


ef6a6c  No.651262

File: 0dbcf4caeb5af9e⋯.jpg (97.56 KB, 384x512, 3:4, 0dbcf4caeb5af9e4246c50b444….jpg)

>>651252

How much worse do you think things can get?


2e073d  No.651264

>>651253

Isn't your country in financial ruin because Golden Dawn is locked up?


cb3d6d  No.651267


cfd1b1  No.651269

>>651249

Problem is that when accelerationism goes full throttle and S finally HTF military will be full of women’s studies grads and pozzed SJWs who think that starving people into compliance is just reperations for antisemitism.


915a58  No.651273


f0af83  No.651276

File: 51a6db54ed8fd3f⋯.png (23.32 KB, 538x184, 269:92, 1403053877619.png)

>>651247

BUT M-M-M-UH EQUALITY GUISEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


a064c7  No.651282

File: e0edfdf634cc690⋯.jpg (56.6 KB, 563x363, 563:363, little rock.jpg)

>>651269

The military was never on your side anyway,


5ddaaf  No.651286

File: 457d00c5a5a1202⋯.jpg (45.35 KB, 531x602, 531:602, fuck off and die, normies.jpg)

>>651247

I'm getting tired of this country at an alarming rate.

>>651264

lol nice strawman, hope you fall down the stairs and break something, shithead

>pic unrelated


33ddf1  No.651287

>>651269

Considering that your military would most likely be the enemy when SHTF (at least those who stay in uniform) wouldn't you want that?


2b683f  No.651288

>>651287

I'll answer for my fellow mutt. Yes it is. The fact that the military is run by complete retards vs functioning retards is great. We only need people to nuke china if they get to uppity. We have no real need for a military.


e82450  No.651298

File: 5a3005e9e84fc7e⋯.jpg (388.14 KB, 1142x1200, 571:600, Harpers-1863-How-to-Escape….jpg)

>>651247

This is potentially the worst of both worlds. All this would mean is that women would have to sign up for the Selective Service:

1. Women would be able to claim that they're shouldering their full responsibility as citizens. Just as MRAs/MGTOWs/whatevers currently use the draft as a major point when arguing that US jurisprudence is biased in favor of women, if the policy gets changed feminists would be able to claim the opposite using the same argument.

BUT

2. I suspect that the argument "The system is fair: women can be drafted too." would prove as true as the argument "The system is fair: Women in the military must meet realistic standards."

US recruitment efforts are easily be influenced by political concerns. Just look at the current diversity initiatives or McNamara's meddling in Vietnam, especially Project 100,000. For example, the already existing draft exemption list begs to be abused. The selective service would just have to show discretion in favor of women. You've got your hardship deferment, they could bring back the college deferment, I'm sure conscientious objection would make a big comeback, they could come up with child or elder care deferments, etc. Shit, they could just reverse themselves on the whole minimum requirements to serve. If they actually made the enlistment standards the same for men and women then almost all biological females would be 4-F right off the bat.

The political and cultural pressure to go easy on women would be overwhelming. Look at how vigorously women defend their legal privileges to alimony, welfare, and abortion. For something as serious as conscription they'd go rabid. Besides, would the military even want female draftees? If you were a general responsible for fighting an real, no shit, state vs. state, we could actually lose this one war would you be eager to dealt with the headache of incorporating a bunch of nigh unto useless female conscripts into your order of battle?

I cannot conceive of a scenario where our society or, more importantly, women themselves would permit females to be drafted en masse and thrown into even a relatively low intensity war like the GWOT. Let alone a real meat grinder like WWI. Signing women up for the Selective Service would just be another Kafkaesque joke everyone would have to pretend to take seriously if they didn't want the Damore treatment.


41da48  No.651300

File: 0ce9d6296d93c21⋯.jpg (73.25 KB, 500x686, 250:343, 9d7506668c41319f991f31fc60….jpg)

>>651298

>I cannot conceive of a scenario where our society or, more importantly, women themselves would permit females to be drafted en masse and thrown into even a relatively low intensity war like the GWOT. Let alone a real meat grinder like WWI

l can. absolute total genocidal war where there is no other choice. like, imagine being a tribe sandwiched between romans, turks, mongols, FUCKING GERMANS and other undesirables


a04a87  No.651302

Next include children.


e82450  No.651304

File: e5895c1d0922cd9⋯.png (543.41 KB, 500x500, 1:1, ClipboardImage.png)

>>651300

Nice dubs, but I suspect that in that scenario the vast, vast majority of women would much rather be concubines for the conquers pumping out low caste half bloods than conscripts. Especially in the modern West.

I guess they might have no choice if the invaders were space aliens or something.


33ddf1  No.651305

>>651298

Wouldn't you see a large number of SJW wymyns refusing to register for the draft for 'ethical' reasons, and thus removing themselves from the ballot? (It's my understanding that in order to vote in the US men currently have to register for the draft, if this is incorrect then do tell me - at least you lucky fuckers get a say in whether you get drafted or not).


41da48  No.651307

File: aa0d1005ac29b26⋯.jpg (28.31 KB, 174x192, 29:32, sandro.jpg)

File: 0d90582bed66172⋯.jpg (327.48 KB, 1280x960, 4:3, sens zycia.jpg)

>>651302

why not conscript the dead?


21a1e4  No.651308

>>651307

we are already spiritually dead, you see?


41da48  No.651309

>>651308

good. dead man need no money


915a58  No.651312

>>651307

The dead are the most avid democrat voters already.


e82450  No.651314

>>651305

> refusing to register for the draft… thus removing themselves from the ballot

That's the point of the deferment system. Registrants are assigned classes and at any given point in time only people in certain classes are actually eligible for conscription. In theory it's like a grading system. You rank potential recruits by desirability and you pick the most suitable. So in theory when things are going good you only pull from your "Grade A" pool. If you run low you can make lower quality classes eligible and start recruiting less and less desirable candidates until you start scraping the bottom of the barrel.

In practice of course it's more complicated. There's tons of deferment classes which have nothing to do with a candidate's suitability for military service. For example there's Class 4-D: 'Ministers of Religion' and Class 4-B: 'Official Deferred by Law'. If you read the list of classes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Service_System#Classifications) it's obvious how political concerns shaped the process. Therefore people who are registered, and therefore eligible to vote, might be in a class extremely unlikely to actually be called up. Two notorious ones during Vietnam were 1-S(C): 'Student deferred by statute (College)' and 1-O: 'Conscientious objector to all military service'. There was a lot of sturm und drang at the time over how fair and legitimate these deferment classes were.

In the event that tumblrina's had to register I'm sure they'd end up in low classes. And if they didn't I suspect the system would be changed so they would be. Plus, like I said most of them would probably be 4-F: 'Registrant not acceptable for military service' anyway. In that case they'd be able to vote but wouldn't be drafted outside of a situation so fucked up they'd probably have to fight or submit anyway like >>651300 suggests.


41eaf3  No.651319

>inb4 mass pregnancies in the event of a draft or any other of the thousands of loopholes or special privileges that will be made for roasties

It'd be great if the dumber women start up a campaign to just outright say they're inferior soldiers or that they're otherwise unsuited for military work and end up getting a court ruling set that boots a shitload of them out of the Military. But that's entirely too much hope here.


c4a6b5  No.651327

>>651247

Enjoy gender quality feminists


b5d485  No.651331

File: fb05a07bf397ef3⋯.webm (5.59 MB, 480x360, 4:3, Full Metal Jacket Hooke….webm)

>>651247

They want equal rights? Fine for me. Just make sure to send them to the right missions. Like using them as decoy meanwhile boys do the real job, or puting them in the frontline in a human wave attack and when the enemy gets tired and out of ammo use the boys. They can be spies too, acting as prostitutes to get info from the enemy soldier…

You see, not a big deal if you are smart enough to use them rightly.


c4a6b5  No.651335

>>651248

>Finally, women can die for israel too

Transphobic much?


22869a  No.651342

>>651269

>not breaking the enemy with love :^)


027672  No.651344

>>651314

>'Conscientious objector to all military service'

Wait if you were 'Conscientious objector' you weren't drafted?

The fuck was that noise about people dodging draft then?


e82450  No.651348

>>651344

You had to convince the draft board that your belief was sincere and that you were opposed to all wars, not just the current one. This assessment included an investigation into your life, interviews with your friends and family, etc. Remember that back then America and its institutions were much less pozzed. Your draft board was most likely comprised solely of older white male veterans who were sick of filthy communist hippies trying to get out of service. And even if your status was approved conscientious objectors faced social opprobrium as unpatriotic cowards. It was often difficult for conscientious objectors to find a job for example. It really was a different world.

On top of that you would still be on the hook for some form of service under the Alternative Service Program. When originally conceived back in WWII you would provide "service" by spending your enlistment period committed to an insane asylum or in prison. They gradually loosened it up of course. By Vietnam you could be assigned to dangerous work like smokejumping or shit jobs like insane asylum menial worker. Unsurprisingly it has been loosened up even more as the pozz has spread. I went to their website and the current criteria is:

> Examples of alternative service work are conservation, caring for the very young and the very old, educational projects and health care.

It's both a shame and a reminder of how good things can be corrupted. The original idea behind conscientious objection was to provide a mechanism for patriots who wanted to serve but had religious objections to killing (Quakers, Shakers, and the like). These men would often serve as corpsmen or combat medics. Cpl. Desmond Doss famously won the Medal of Honor for heroically rescuing and providing medical care to his fellow soldiers under insanely dangerous conditions in the Battle of Okinawa. He was wounded four times during the battle and complications from his injuries severely impaired his health for the rest of his life. Whatever you could say about a pacifist like him, he wasn't a coward and the price of his service wasn't cheap.

During the Vietnam war a lot of people found it much easier to just hide out in Canada or get a doctor to certify that they were 4-F. I'm sure it would be even easier today.

(Note the difference between the classes 1-A-O: 'Conscientious objector available for noncombatant military service only.' and 1-O: 'Conscientious objector to all military service.')


77d192  No.651355

File: bbd9a42f113e3aa⋯.png (2.45 MB, 1484x949, 1484:949, ClipboardImage.png)

>>651319

>mass pregnancies in the event of a draft

Be right back, just had idea.


b72faa  No.651730

>supporting any draft at all

Best case scenario women get added to the draft then fight against it because it seems men have given up on freedom from tyranny.


6599c0  No.651742

File: e4002d7ce6362f1⋯.jpeg (465.67 KB, 1920x1200, 8:5, gj.jpeg)

>>651355

State Drafted Comfort Women!


6be535  No.651761

>>651248

>send your soldier manufacturing plants on the frontline

(((They))) are not even discreet with their White genocide plans anymore.


6be535  No.651764

>>651264

Maybe but at least we are not in complete ruin since our pigs are still physically capable to lock up Golden Dawn, a capacity that isn't so certain for most of the western armed forces at this point.


ee2f18  No.651781

>>651247

Doesn't really matter if you consider the average weight of the American woman means the only military role they're suited for is fortifications.

No longer will soldiers have to carry around bags and shovels, they'll just have some Tumblr landwhale on a mobility scooter rolling after them.


a33e55  No.651787

<7th of May

>the enemy has been keeping back last few weeks, switching to a harassing campaign of occassional shelling and raiding of supply convoys. No reinforcement scheduled in near future.

<15th of June

>enemy tactic has proven to be effective – our supplies are getting low. An occassional shipment gets through, but not nearly enough to cover our needs. There is talk about exempting pregnant troops from the rationing, but doing so would cut our estimated time before running out by half

<6th of July

>three more troops confirmed pregnant, luckily not enough months in to affect combat effectiveness. Men have nothing to shoot at, yet the orders are to stay put and hold position, so they alleviate the boredom by fucking the female troops.

<20th of August

>there is even less food now, there is talk of mutiny. I suspect the only reason it didn't happen yet is because the to-be-fathers give most of their rations to their pregnant partners, and are too malnourished to stir up trouble as a result. I hope command will send relief soon. I struggle to imagine what would happen should the enemy actually mount an attack.

<1st of September

>enemy wants to negotiate. Demands unconditional surrender of the base in exchange for letting us live. Outrageous. Command says position is critical, we are to defend to our last breath if need be.

<2nd of September

>information about the ultimatum leaked to the troops, all of the base surrendered despite our best efforts. Troops say they would fight to the last, but they need to protect their unborn children. Command is beside itself, threatens court martial for everyone involved, should we survive captivity. God have mercy on our souls.


e772ef  No.651807

>>651787

>they need to protect their unborn children.

Nice try, but nobody in weimerica refers to unborn children like that, it's "lump of cells" "product of fertilization", "parasite", "smoothie-to-be"


41eaf3  No.651833

>>651807

>Nice try, but nobody in weimerica refers to unborn children like that,

It will depend on the makeup of the unit i guess. Majority of recruits come from the bible belt, most of the bible belt is where the strictest abortion legislation is and the only place outside some of the midwest states where people still argue about it.

That said, anywhere there is a majority of the Godless yankee, expect the worst.


94c388  No.651858

Who cares, the US military is dogshit now. In fact lets let the trannies back into military while we are at it. Lets just collapse the entirety of the DoD and make the US military into one of the biggest jokes in history. While we're at it lets just let standards slip up badly so we can turn the US military into the next great social experiment.


2050cb  No.651872

File: ef6592ae0cfea11⋯.jpg (72.44 KB, 575x720, 115:144, bimbo outfit.jpg)

like, go already, go! i'll cover you duuuuuh.,,


b41e47  No.651897

>>651872

Honestly, big boobs are only great when the hips and thighs are proportionally wider too. It just looks uncanny otherwise. But a stacked girl with child birthing hips and thighs beats a "svelte" figure anyday, as long as the stomach is still within the realm of not being fat.


2050cb  No.651903

File: 4d67108e0e59aee⋯.jpg (858.33 KB, 1066x1600, 533:800, free-photo-peacock-567.jpg)

>>651897

The joke is that creatures which have been biologically ornamental for millions of years, and psychologically ornamental since birth are suddenly called on to be predators and fight for other people. It's ridiculous, it just can't work. In order for a woman to even know how to take care of themselves they need to have had a shitty life which caused more than its fair share of mental illnesses, and in order for them to know how to take care of themselves and others requires some kind of miracle.


20193f  No.653456

>>651258

the language of the 13th amendment explicitly forbids a draft.

and yet, the courts indebted to Israel have ruled somehow that it doesn't apply to the draft, only to what existed in 1860s America.


e73ece  No.654376

>>651247

Drafts are a bad way to get /k/ommandos. Volunteer works best.


5faf1d  No.654391

File: 514669a612b3713⋯.jpg (384.78 KB, 1280x922, 640:461, 9676365_XZkA70pJyhvYsht.jpg)

>>651307

We are the dead.


618d43  No.654856

With the lax criteria for mental health and drug abuse problems in the US, it seems like everybody who does not want to serve could just claim 4-F

>Registrant not acceptable for military service. This may be because of learning disabilities, drug abuse or alcoholism, criminal record or mental health problems, being an amputee/tetraplegia, etc.

>Oh I have ADHD/ADD!

>Naw mayn I smoked some pot once!

>I have severe PTSD from the stare rape *Cries*!


dff7db  No.654875

>>651307

>raise an army of the dead

>they're all incredibly reactionary and homophobic

>absolutely HATE the modern world

>immediately turn on their kike masters and estabilish God's Kingdom on Earth

I'm fine with this


080f0d  No.655171

>>653456

CoRRECT.

"congress raise an Army" means that Congress can pay for/authorize a FED army instead of the various State militias that were all we had in 1776.

A Draft can only mean The People do not support the Govt in the strongest possible terms.


080f0d  No.655172

>>654376

>>>651247 (OP)

>

>Drafts are a bad way to get /k/ommandos. Volunteer works best.

we need to reverse how Police/Military are hired.

No one that wants to be a cop should be allowed to be a cop. Used to be able bodied adult men were required to take turns as night time neighborhood patrol and there was NO ORGANIZED CRIME. OC can't exist without a Civil Service police.

We don't want a military full of people who just took that job as default due to lack of other choices, we want motivated professionals who want to win. Prior to IIRC Civil War, military success was rewarded with cold hard cash, land grants and other actually valuable stuff. You'd get entrepreneurs.




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