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0f1d9a No.650197
LOCKMART REVEALS NEW F-21 FIGHTER ONLY FOR INDIA
>Lockheed Martin offered India on Wednesday a new combat jet to be made locally, the F-21, in an attempt to win a large military order worth more than $15 billion.
>The U.S. defense firm had previously offered its F-16 fighter used by countries around the world for the Indian air force’s ongoing competition for 114 planes to be made in India.
>But Lockheed, unveiling the plan at an air show in the southern city of Bengaluru, said it was offering India a new plane configured for its needs.
>It would carry technologies from its fifth generation planes, the F-22 and the F-35, the firm said.
>“The F-21 is different, inside and out,” Vivek Lall, vice president of Strategy and Business Development for Lockheed Martin Aeronautics, said in a statement.
>The company will build the plane in collaboration with India’s Tata Advanced Systems, the firm said.
https://archive.is/m89JD
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-airshow-india-lockheed/lockheed-unveils-new-f-21-fighter-jet-configured-for-india-idUSKCN1Q90ED
d4240c No.650198
Good for them, I guess. It's wait and see how good or shit it will be now. It will probably give them an edge over the chinks tbh, since it's almost entirely going to be Western tech anyway.
Lockheed's own flight simulator looks neat.
2e4feb No.650200
>>650197
What will it look and smell like?
bb9d4d No.650201
>>650197
In other words: Lockheeb found a new country to extort, and it's the government which has a collective lower IQ than and about forty times the daily bowel movements of a particularly retarded ant.
>>650200
I imagine that hygiene will be the hardest design problem for them to solve. The first iteration will have a toilet with an eternally broken and needlessly complex plunging system, and the Indian's shit will feed into the fuel lines. After that doesn't work, they'll add a digital interface for the toilet.
2e4feb No.650207
>>650201
>and the Indian's shit will feed into the fuel lines.
That's actually ingenius and could increase the range of the plane by a fair margin though the engine exhaust color and smell could compromise its stealth.
Does Poo make for a good liquid cooling solution?
796bb1 No.650209
>>650207
>Does Poo make for a good liquid cooling solution?
Why not collect it in a specialised tank and have the pilot fly low over the enemy to spray it out as a biological/psychological weapon?
1f438c No.650210
>>650197
>F-21
So the Kfir?
263aa6 No.650222
>>650197
So basically an F-16 with what appear to be large, internal fuel tanks on the shoulders of the fuselage?
d78394 No.650224
>>650222
>fuel tanks
Those are the shit tanks.
bb692f No.650225
>>650197
> to be made locally
Last I looked Indian manufacturing is a giant fucking disaster that makes the Chinese look good.
2e4feb No.650230
>>650225
How do their "indigenous" fighter aircraft compare to those of the bugman hive?
5de3d4 No.650231
>>650209
>smearing shit on your enemy from the sky
This is unironically the most brilliant British military concept since the invention of tanks.
538161 No.650235
>>650201
>I imagine that hygiene will be the hardest design problem
Not really. I think that the main problem is going to be the brakes. Obviously with concrete runways you run into the problem of a certain buildup over time.
This buildup will make slowing down after touchdown a lot more difficult, so they will either have to use parachutes. But those will cause even more problems, mainly because they have to be folded properly and cleaned regularly.
Maybe it's just my inner maniac speaking, but I think RATOL might be appropriate.
e72031 No.650270
>>650222
Those are the standard CFTs that we've had since forever. Lockheeb uses them to pad the F-16's laughable full-load combat radius, but only Israel and Greece actually use them because they make the plane turn like an F-4.
bd9de7 No.650273
>>650230
It's a bootlegged old Mirage like the kind Israel has been making for 50 years.
Except the poo have been trying to make them for 20 and when they issued the tender for single-engine light aircraft recently (that that F-21 is for) the poo made plane wasn't even on the contender list.
Note that since then they've scrapped the requirement of it being single-engine so I except Russia to get a 200 something order for MiG-35 as a "stopgap" until India becomes a superpower, like all their T-72 and T-90 are just "stopgaps" waiting for the Arjun.
ef3584 No.650294
>>650273
>arjun
Oh. That. Has anyone heard anything new about that disaster?
1f438c No.650295
>>650273
Think India will revive the Fulcrum?
796bb1 No.650301
>>650231
Just imagine how much easier that would make things for their logistical corps. Aircraft crop dusting gear is cheap and simple enough that it wouldn't be a problem for a military budget or their engineering teams; also while the explosives are usually the cheapest part of a modern bomb it couldn't possibly be cheaper than something that every man on the airbase is producing themselves at least once a day. Hell, mix in their urine too to really max out the savings and efficiency improvements!
87f433 No.650302
>>650301
I mean, I know people shit a lot, but I don't think you would have enough to spread over a very large area unless you had stockpiles beforehand. Are they going to build septic tanks everywhere for this? Wouldn't that require them to actually poo innaloo?
2e4feb No.650307
>>650302
Septic tanks might not be necessary if the Pilots+maintenance crew would just poo in the warhead prior to the mission.
796bb1 No.650308
>>650302
>The Indian army has 1'237'117 regular personnel, with a further 960'000 reservists.
>The average human being produces about 800g of shit per day (varying with body weight, diet, health conditions etc)
>Assuming 100% normal crapping, and perfect collection, that would produce 1757.694 metric tons of shit ready for deployment every day.
<Average human produces around 1500ml of urine every 24 hours
<The Indian army would also produce 3295675.5 litres of urine every day, ready for use as a weapon.
I'm happy to accept that nothing is ever perfect, particularly where human biology and military organisation is involved, but until the Indian army starts getting into massive inefficiency that's still a significant amount of human waste to drop on the enemy. Also just imagine the effect of covering a hostile FOB in human piss/shit. Aside from the massive spike in infectious disease rates the enemy would see (remember that disease is traditionally one of the major killers in a campaign), just imagine the morale effect of the poor bastards who have to clean … all of the everything, every time you do it. Picture the demoralising effect of realising that your enemy is dropping his literal shit on you. How long do you think you would need in the shower before you stopped feeling filthy? What sort of effect do you think that would have on your performance if you were on the receiving end of an airborne shit strike? Then factor in the increased disciplinary problems that would come even with the bugmen, and the inevitable executions that would follow in the PLA.
You're not just making your enemy sick, demoralised, and giving your men something to laugh about during a period of very high stress (improving their performance and lowering the rate of psychological burnout among your men) - you're also wasting the enemies' time, tiring him out, and getting his political officers to kill enemy soldiers for you.
0bfa72 No.650311
>Poos will potentially have a better main combat jet then the U.S.
2e4feb No.650312
>>650308
>Smelly chink soldiers getting publically executed for being full of shit
>all the Indians would have to do is strategically poo on key officers and officials to ensure the self-eradication of the Chink Army chain of command at the hands of disgusted local Politbüro officials believing their comrades to be Indian spies
Why has no one thought of this before?
bd9de7 No.650320
>>650295
MiG stated they were set up to produce 36 a year, Russia needs 160 (44 MiG-29SMT, 10 MiG-29UBT ~20 МiG-29K/UBs in service + ~100 older МiG-29s in reserve) India will buy the rest.
aaa705 No.650334
Since we're here, can we have a moment to demystify the F-22? Was it what the hype said it was or was it the same as other jets, but with a silly "stealth" feature that became useless?
1f438c No.650342
>>650334
F-22 still is the best fighter in existence. It was too big too fail, like the F-35 minus the hubris of attempting to violate physics.
ab61c6 No.650343
>>650342
That's a funny way to spell F-16. The F-22 was too brittle and too expensive. Sadly, if they had received more practical development and weren't only used as a marketing meme and later shelved, they probably would have been better.
1f438c No.650344
>>650343
Okay, I should have specified "best in combat performance", stealth-logistics are indeed a fucking nightmare, especially when you have scrapped the tooling.
aff3a1 No.650374
>>650270
>only Israel and Greece
Poland and possibly others use them too.
>>650197
>Lockheeb forces their dreck on literally every country, and the U.S. govt told S.Korea among others that they werent allowed to buy f-15SE, as a vehicle to force everyone to buy f-35.
>Pajeets suggest *indigenous contributions* to project
>Lockheeb designs presumably actually good jet based on proven platform
>pajeets still have to assemble it domestically with domestic suppliers.
aff3a1 No.650375
>>650210
>Kfir
more like kaffir badum tiss
17656f No.650376
>>650270
>but only Israel and Greece actually use them because they make the plane turn like an F-4.
Are you implying there's something wrong with our airforce, anon?
fcf67d No.650377
>>650376
I thought Greece is Orthodox?!
d708a2 No.650379
>>650197
>F-16 covered in burger armor
>new fighter
fe860a No.650380
>>650273
Imagine living in a country that barely manages to evade the Malthusian trap and still feels the need to LARP as a high-tech superpower.
7f388f No.650381
>>650377
Greece is Orthodox, but those Greeks who love little boys are honorary Catholics.
17656f No.650383
>>650377
Christ-chan is orthodox too anon!
>>650381
I only love little girls
7d753a No.650387
>>650197
Fugging ebin :DDDDDD
5de3d4 No.650390
>>650383
But then why the Catholic cross?
a600f0 No.650405
>>650198
>Western Tech
And they will make it in China and it will become China tech
1c56cf No.650413
It's just a way to get American weapons systems in the door. No American plane is going to be capable of interfacing with foreign equipment, which means India will have to buy everything from flight suits to ordnance and even FUEL from America. Also eventually the cannon will trickle down into some ground vehicle, and then why not just buy surplus bradleys? Before you know it entire India needs America just to stay afloat.
Just look at all Western nations. We used to have our own armies and production lines until America sold us a fucking rifle. Now we literally can't produce anything, we have to buy 100% of equipment (or at least tooling) from America.
Global fucking parasite.
1c56cf No.650417
>>650294
It's a "tank" with a vespa engine and a giant hole in front armor, it wouldn't even qualify for WWII.
>>650334
F-22 is pretty garbage, but it's better than F-35. In fact it's the best 'stealth' fighter in the world, but that doesn't mean much since stealth fighters take an instant hit on performance, price, maintenance, deployability, reliability, etc…
F-22 had a good frame though, it could have been easily fixed before they destroyed the tooling to prevent the enemy from getting it prevent America from building a stealth fighter that was less overpriced.
1c56cf No.650420
In fact survivability itself is a meme. It takes 5 million dollars to train a fat civilian into a high speed low drag fighter pilot. Obviously in WWII when planes were about 1.5 million dollars (adjusted) the pilot was the most important component, and risking the mission and the airframe to save a pilot made sense.
But even immediately after WWII the jets that came out cost like 10 million (adjusted) and today we have 100 million dollar planes. The pilot isn't the most expensive component, it no longer makes sense to degrade mission capability or the airframe to save a fucking pilot.
This is the main reason why stealth is a fucking joke, this is why the F-35 carries around customer flags as "kill" markings. An F-22 wing plus pilot training cost lumped in can be used to train 1000 pilots and build 1000 airframes with similar raw performance supersonic, 20km altitude, 6xMedium missiles or 2x1000lb bomb just by removing the stealth angle, and losing a few hundred of them to complete a mission is actually a good payoff.
bd9de7 No.650446
>>650413
>It's just a way to get American weapons systems in the door. No American plane is going to be capable of interfacing with foreign equipment, which means India will have to buy everything from flight suits to ordnance and even FUEL from America. Also eventually the cannon will trickle down into some ground vehicle, and then why not just buy surplus bradleys
Which is exactly why Indian generals doesn't want anything US made for first line duty.
The only reason they picked Rafale as medium fighter is because the french companies violated the embargoes during the time India was doing nuke tests.
The whole Mistral thing killed any of the cold war clout the french arms industry (that prided itself in being absolutely neutral IE "even if our missiles are used to sink our allies ships it's not our problem, we sell very good CIWS too") had left which is the reason the Rafale deal is falling through.
6930fb No.650456
>>650405
Is it still the same tech if you replace titanium alloys with pig iron and RAM with nylon, plywood and rust?
6930fb No.650458
>>650413
> No American plane is going to be capable of interfacing with foreign equipment
This as fuck. Mikoyan and Saab are the only companies doing actual exports instead of trying to enforce drug dealer monopolistic tactics on costumers.
bd9de7 No.650459
>>650456
Except it's the opposite.
China produce 50% of the planet titanium and 25% of the electronics.
The US makes 0% and 5% respectively.
7f388f No.650461
>>650420
>stealth is a fucking joke
I agree.
6431dc No.650476
>>650459
>25% of the electronics
Is that counting parts manufactured abroad but "assembled" in China?
6930fb No.650479
>>650461
Disparaging stealth is also a meme. Not a stealth fan myself, since it requires at least moderate aerodynamic compromises but I am in the camp of thought of "wherever you can use RAM instead of conventional metal materials parts you should do it" since turbofans fundamentally aren't appropriate for speeds over mach 2.2 and since supersonic fighters never intended to be cheap ever since onboard radar and avionics became a thing and missiles became the primary weapon.
2e4feb No.650480
>>650459
Genocide the Chinese and occupy their lands then, problem solved.
b59fb2 No.650496
>>650480
There really isn't anything worth to occupy there. Do you want to spend years upon years decontaminating land that is maybe 1/10th of what European/North American soil is like?
796bb1 No.650522
>>650350
>how do chinks in villages behave
The same way that peasants everywhere have always behaved, whether they earn their crust in a field or a factory. They don't give much of a shit about the politics, they just want to keep them and theirs in decent working order. They'll follow the party for as long as that's the easier path to keeping a roof over their heads and food in front of their children. Remember that even with all the wealth China has gotten hold of in the last few decades for the majority of their population it has no more effect on their lives than the weather on Venus.
If you look at their history then China has lurched from one unstable shithole to the next (kind of like Europe; but without the art, philosophy, music, military development, heroes, or decent alcohol), the government there is amping up the repression but even the most patriotic party man should be able to read the writing on the wall by now. WW3 is exactly the kind of thing that would shatter the current establishment in China and lead to their next revolution may God help them.
456ac2 No.650586
>>650522
> it has no more effect on their lives than the weather on Venus.
it's turned their weather into the atmosphere from Venus though.
796bb1 No.650622
>>650586
It's not quite hot enough yet. What if China's pollution is a preemptive defensive measure, intended to force invading armies to wear full chemical warfare gear and thus reducing their performance.
e72031 No.650626
>>650586
>>650622
Spaceballs was supposed to be a comedy, not a prophecy.
17656f No.650630
>>650622
>manlet low-testosterone chinks dressing better than the average western millennial
Fuck this gay earth
1c56cf No.650647
>>650446
>Mistral
FFS don't even mention that, saddest story of the 21st century so far.
796bb1 No.650654
>>650630
If it makes you feel any better those clothes were probably picked by their parents.
fa8278 No.650659
>>650446
>The whole Mistral thing killed any of the cold war clout the french arms industry
Explain please. Are you talking about the MANPADS? I know little about MANPADS, but we do have a few of those. No idea how good they are.
4d2112 No.650682
>>650622
>it's the great wall for the 21st century
4d2112 No.650683
>>650446
> killed any of the cold war clout the french arms industry had left
Wasn't it already destroyed by Thatcher getting the disarm codes for Exocet during the Falklands?
1317d6 No.650689
>>650496
>>650480
I hope their economy fucks up and they can't sustain their facade of a nation. "China" or Chung-Hwa is absolutely a failed utopian and unclear ideal (the ancient idea that China is at the centre of the world and the further you are from China, the more barbaric the people are) that needs to be relegated to the history books. Picrel is how it should look; it's too bad that the Chicoms genocided a whole bunch of ethnic centres and are actively trying to destroy the Uighurs and Tibetians. They're invading everywhere with Han, the equivalent of a Muttmerican in Asia.
1317d6 No.650690
>>650689
Let me add that I don't give a rat's arse about what happens to muslims or their tendency to fuck boys and goats, but every group of people who are distinct in history, culture, ethnicity, and most importantly race should be allowed to rule themselves and remain to themselves. I follow a basic principle where I don't harm you if you don't harm me, and vice versa, but if you hurt me and continue to do so I'll fuck your shit up until you can't harm me ever again.
e72031 No.650692
>>650659
He's talking about the Mistral-class LHDs.
>Russia wants to buy some amphibious warfare vessels because they're having trouble developing their own
>France offers Russia two Mistrals, in addition to helping Russia customize a lot of NATO-standard systems to be compatible with Russia's own standards
>the rest of NATO is losing their shit over this deal, US especially
>technical assistance agreement falls through due to regime changes on both ends
>Donbass War happens, Russia gets embargoed
>France repeatedly assures Russia that the hulls will be delivered one way or another
>(((Hollande))) administration enters office, immediately cancels the deal because muh six trillion Crimeans
>Russian hulls are instead sold off to kebabs for a fraction of the original cost
>also Russia still hasn't gotten their money back
bb9d4d No.650693
>>650690
Personally I don't see how ethnostates would ever work without some sort of white apartheid at least loosely ruling over them. It's same sort of libertarian or communist idea of 'well people will finally be happy and not attack each other if x perfect ideal'. No, blacks aren't going to just leave Europe in peace if we close off Africa and tell them not to, neither will dunecoons.
ddb11c No.650696
>>650693
That's why you kill them when they try. You're trying to imagine a nation which has no duty to defend itself, and there is no such thing. Danger will always exist, and every society should always be armed and wary of its competitors. You are not their police or their babysitter, you shouldn't waste valuable time and resources trying to be their emperor. Just deter them from starting shit with you and peace will follow. Nobody is going to antagonise a group that they know will curbstomp them without hesitation if the bear is poked.
796bb1 No.650720
>>650693
>No, blacks aren't going to just leave Europe in peace if we close off Africa and tell them not to, neither will dunecoons.
It doesn't require a global enforcement arm, just the invaded/occupied countries unfucking themselves and breaking out the bombers.
>How long would modern Islamic terrorism have lasted if casualties were returned (at least) 100 fold to the sponsoring/supporting nations?
779802 No.650727
>>650720
It's a double-edge sword, see Algeria.
Algeria islamic revolution against the french just means a shitload more algerians in France.
No, there needs to be race-conscious social policy, and none of that "I make ya country good, so you don't invade me" crap, that's not how shit works.
b931e8 No.650729
>>650689
>too bad that they are actively trying to destroy the Uighurs
DOES NOT COMPUTE
4f1f6d No.650733
>>650729
Everyone deserves a homeland, Strelok. Nationalism goes both ways.
1a4dac No.650737
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>650729
With an independent Tibet I could see a Buddhist revitalization in the region. And if they replaced their mohamedan religion with something else, then they'd be just a garden variety of Eurasian nomads.
1c56cf No.650745
>>650461
Eh go fuck yourself, your nation literally chose to be irrelevant cucks despite being #5 in the world by nuke arsenal and military tech. Literally could have been a great power by 2050 but you chose to piss it all away willingly, knowing the choice you were making.
Canada at least never had a choice.
b931e8 No.650755
>>650733
Kazakhstan exists for a reason. No point in letting roaches roach on rightful Tocharian clay.
796bb1 No.650842
>>650737
>Independent Tibet
>Posts Mongolian Music
>What did he mean by this?
It's a good band though, both of the singles they've released so far have been rather fun.
5cd636 No.650862
>>650745
>your nation literally chose
Imagine being this ignorant you don't know that denuclearization of all the post-soviet countries except russia was an American-European consensus and started well before the 1994 - specifically, (((you))) all forced us to include that paragraph into the 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty. (Usual sage for offtopic)
1c56cf No.650900
>>650862
NOBODY CAN FUCKING FORCE YOU TO DO ANYTHING IF YOU HAVE NUKES YOU GIANT FUCKING MORON
1c56cf No.650901
You had the HIGHEST freedom a nation state can guarantee for itself and its cultural existence into the future ON YOUR TONGUE but you refused to taste it.
1e8ffe No.650902
>>650900
Not if the other guy(s) have more nukes and is in a better position to utilize them effectively.
That said
>Ukrainians
>competent
779802 No.650904
>your nation chose
Yet another case where civilians blame civilians for the fault of da guberment.
2e4feb No.650911
>>650900
>Nukes
Being the world's biggest treasury for every president, dictator, globalist wire fraudster/kike etc. through sheer force of fence sitting also helps.
4e6ba3 No.650916
b931e8 No.650923
>>650904
Both elected representatives and communist revolutions are a direct consequence of the population's poor choices and conscious neglect.
b931e8 No.650924
>>650375
You can stay, Carlos.
779802 No.650925
>>650923
Communists push the votes.
Either ways, yes, it's clear the populace do not make good choices.
Government should be lead by a leader/king, supported by a cadre of morally just and ethical men (no women), and absolute no foreigners/merchant/JEWS.
fa3289 No.650928
>>650925
A fellow traditionalist monarchist?
779802 No.650929
>>650928
Yes.
Monarchism is clearly the government type that makes the most sense and lasts the longest.
2e4feb No.650932
>>650929
What about direct Monarchism?
E.g. Switzerland but with unelected Nobility instead of elected Representatives for the purpose of uplifting morale by giving the people leaders with a long history to rally behind instead of random fat cucks that change every few years.
Would that work?
779802 No.650933
>>650932
Do you mean direct elective monarchism or some shit?
Again, I'm just tired of all the election shit to this point, there should be proper succession laws so that the king can raise a new king, rather than some politician being elected into one.
2e4feb No.650939
>>650933
No, no elections.
Just take the legislative part of Swiss Democracy (Representatives can't do shit other than suck dick implement laws without majority approval by the people, also DIY referendums) but have the Representatives be unelected Nobility with traditional laws of succession to eliminate election bloat and other gay cronyism associated with current age Democracies.
17656f No.650940
>>650932
>>650939
>>650925
How do we make sure the new leaders aren't kikes, commies and traitors?
2e4feb No.650943
>>650940
Even if they're kikes it's much, much harder to continously jew the people when they ultimately decide which proposal becomes law, if any.
They and other members of the nobility may also experience discontent if the kike in charge fails to pass any of his law proposals for the 50th time in a row while his people just successfully passed another anti-semitic referendum further hardening immigration and anti-usury laws in the domain, worse yet that lowly ethno-aristocrat from the countryside is said to have helped them draft it and is now gaining favors amid some of the administration.
bd9de7 No.650945
>>650862
And thank god for it because everyone knows full well what you will have done with them: AKA selling them to the highest bidder.
The US, while they still had a brain, swept in with their infinite checkbook and BOUGHT THEM FROM YOUR POLITICIANS.
Stop pretending anything else happened and playing the victim you fucking Khazar.
1c56cf No.650951
>>650902
No, it just doesn't work. If you nuked Ukraine and they just detonated their 700 nukes on the ground, it would make Eurasia uninhabitable, they don't need to deliver shit. Even if they sold a dozen of them to a terrorist group it would collapse your countries economy as investors get the fuck out. Not to mention how easy it would be to smuggle one in across Canadian or Mexican border. No nuclear nation will ever be attacked, genocided, exterminated, split between other nations, or even oppressed.
Nuclear weapons mean you nation gets to live forever, others may rise and fall, but you'll always be there because it makes you unkillable. There's a reason North Korea fucking did it.
Ukrainians are fucking retatrded, I'm ashamed to be 1/2 Ukrainian and I'm glad my mom decided to escape that hellhole and blandaupp with a german.
>>650916
Speechless because the knowledge is finally penetrating your thick skull?
17656f No.650956
>>650951
The only thing that can penetrate a Ukrainian's skull is a hammer or a bullet
2e4feb No.650973
>>650956
The Ukrainian front was a mistake, the Wehrmacht should've attacked from Iran.
fa3289 No.650975
>>650929
Problem is that such a traditional monarchy (with the ruler being head of both the religious and the profane elite) would had to be built on a strong religious and militaristic foundation. Which is nigh impossible, given the secular nature of modern Europe. And where do you put the workers in this new society? They certainly cannot be part of either the clergy or the nobility, but they are not peasants either since them not working on the fields.
b59fb2 No.650987
>>650956
You want a rock pick, preferably one forged from one piece.
bcab25 No.650991
>>650973
That would require Germany winning the North African front.
796bb1 No.650992
>>650975
>Hereditary succession
Because that always works so well and children are always as competent as their parents.
4e6c06 No.650996
>>650991
Might as well risk one more of those discussions about ww2 where we pretend that the Axis had a chance. So, imagine this:
>Germany, after taking out Poland and France, builds the Atlantic wall and an other defensive line on the East against the USSR
>Hitler in a fit of autism decides to concentrate on North Africa
>in the end they control the Suez canal and the Strait of Gibraltar
>now the Mediterranean is their pond, and they have oil
>get Iran into the game, and threaten the soviets with an invasion from there
>join up with the Japs at sea and start supporting the more violent kind of Indian independence movement
>eventually get India to be neutral but friendly enough to trade with the Axis forces
They could still completely fuck everything up at this point, but at least they'd have the initiative on a global scale, along with the resoucres to fight a prolonged war. And they could probe the USSR from the south. Of course this is hardly a realistic plan.
fa3289 No.650998
>>650992
I never said it must be hereditary - precisely because of the reason thaf the heirs are not always as competent as their father.
796bb1 No.651001
>>650998
What sort of succession system are you proposing?
b931e8 No.651010
>>650992
Still better betting for a successful once in a million random genetic recombination.
c302df No.651012
>>650996
Honestly, telling Spain to fuck itself and occupying Gibraltar and executing every landed blue blood faggot gentry von-hemorrhoid in a command position for disobeying/"sorry the phone is out you're breaking up kssshhh kssshhh" orders on the Eastern front just because they come from someone born in another province would have been great.
2e4feb No.651024
>>650996
>Summer 1940
>Battle of Britain isn't turning out so well
>rather than attacking Lundin in a fit of raeg despite no long-range bomber escort aircraft apart from the Bf 110 being available, deep strike ops are cancelled with focus renewed on British shipping and small precision strikes against coastal Radar stations and critical infrastructure within range of Bf 109 escorts
>Just as the OKW starts to draw up further war plans the It*lians attack the Anglo in Egypt with predictable results
>Hitler decides to send some troops to help out his fellow ally, then *notices Suez*
>while the Italians are getting shrekt in Tobruk 50 Wehrmacht divisions along with most of the Luftwaffe units originally intended for Operation Barbarossa are heading down to Sicily
>Malta is captured by elite Waffen SS paratrooper divisions on September 18th
>Full deployment of the African Legion begins several days later
>British get shitter shattered at Tobruk
>Anglo navy starts intensifying their mediterranean presence, sending large amounts of boat through the strait of Gibraltar
>The Luftwaffe is capable of defending the supply ships heading from Sicily and Malta into Tunisia for the most part, but the It*lian navy is getting sunk.uk in the Western mediterranean and the Kriegsmarine can only do so much from the Atlantic
>at least the Italian and German armies now operate more or less under a unified command structure, preventing any dumb adventures in Greece for the time being
>Afrikalegion reaches El Alamein in February of 1941
>by this point the It*lian navy is sufficiently depleted that most supplies are being flown in by Air or delivered via submarine
>British troops have also begun to land at French Algeria and Sardinia in an effort to corner Axis troops and divert attention in preparation for an invasion of France
>Regardless, the Legion presses on
>El Alamein results in victory for the Axis, however the Italians aren't holding up so well in Sardinia and British artillery is getting dangerously close to Tunisia
>Southern France being overran by gay commie frog insurgents also isn't helping much, albeit Britain itself isn't so well off after having diverted a portion of the RAF to North Africa in turn allowing the Luftwaffe to conduct more aggressive bombing campaigns over Great Britain
>the Northern Atlantic is also relatively quiet
>Afrikalegion marches on to Alexandria, time is of the essence as the situation in the West is gradually deteriorating with the Luftwaffe no longer able to effectively protect what little supply boat there is left on top of an increasing presence of British Aircraft carriers in range of Sicily and the Italian mainland
>Colonial Bongs in the east aren't doing much better thanks to growing discontent with the populace following several forced recruitment drives among local Arabs in the Region
>on March 5th, an undersupplied but determined Afrikalegion meets with a decently supplied but poorly trained and semi-organized Allied force on the outskirts of Alexandria
>British troops manage to hold off the Legion for several hours, with the latter almost running out of artillery shells
>However the tide turns as several British commanding officers get died from precision artillery+bombing strikes even though the location of their posts shouldn't have been known to the enemy
>suddenly an Arab revolt
How retarded is this scenario?
af6f94 No.652077
I just feel bad that such beautiful machines are being made and sold for dirty poos. They don't deserve to touch the F-16.
44bde3 No.652281
Meh, Pakistan got an F-16 shot down yesterday, they're not that great anymore.
816510 No.653091
>>650956
>hammer
>not screwdriver
Come on man, the hammer will just give him a nosebleed.
627ac8 No.655303
>>650420
> F-35 carries around customer flags as "kill" markings.
dats ah goot van!
1cc9b8 No.655319
>>650446
Dont forget giving the British the Exocet codes.
382379 No.655330
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>>650693
>I don't see how ethnostates would ever work without some sort of white apartheid at least loosely ruling over them
protip: they wouldn't
You can technically have multiple ethnicities coexisting peacefully in the same nation-state provided that:
- the ruling majority/plurality is either White, Japanese or arguably Han Chinese and has a huge gap of power between them and minorities
- no shitskin minorities ever are in contact to each other, especially if there's ANY sort of socioeconomic competition or trivial microterritorial or historical grudge between them
- no militant internationalist pseudo-egalitarian ideologies like communism or sunni islam are allowed to take root in ANY socioeconomic or ethnic group
also in historical but not necessarily biological context:
- In a country were NE Asians and Whites coexist the total sum of Asians should never exceed the numbers of the single biggest White ethnicity (or the top handful of biggest ones provided there's strong racial and cultural cohesion between them, like the case of non-Irish, non-WASP Whites of Northern European ancestry in early 20th century muttmerica) or Whites are in the risk of being scapegoated and persecuted, see: Imperial Japan's pan-Asian "anti-colonial" propaganda.
28d3ea No.655339
>>655330
Multiethnic countries work best when every minority is allowed to rule themselves under the condition of not bothering anyone else as much as possible, while in turn not getting bothered by anyone unless it is absolutely necessary.
ada9bd No.655346
>>655339
This tbh, Switzerland and Britain are the only good examples of multiethnic countries.
29e4a0 No.655357
>>650975
Free Peasants = Middle Class
Serfs = Lower Working Class
779802 No.655375
>>650975
Workers = farmers = peasants.
Literally no difference.
382379 No.655387
>>655339
>>655346
This only barely works with White people though.
9f1acc No.655423
>>655387
We don't like the celts and they don't like us but we hate the foreigners more.
28d3ea No.655432
>>655387
It works when every relevant gubbernmental function is decided at the state or better, county level with the federal government mostly serving to maintain the appearance of a conventional nationstate for international matters.
Would a Swiss-style constitution werk in Burgerland?
Politicians outside the very highest echelons shouldn't recieve salaries.
768f92 No.655467
>>650940
Genetic engineering
768f92 No.655468
>>651012
>executing every landed blue blood faggot gentry von-hemorrhoid in a command position for disobeying/"sorry the phone is out you're breaking up kssshhh kssshhh" orders on the Eastern front just because they come from someone born in another province would have been great
What?
796bb1 No.655903
>>655423
>We don't like the celts and they don't like us
>but we hate the foreigners more.
It used to work so well, but if you look at Sinn Fein and the SNP the foreigners found the weak link in the chain pretty easily.
dddb64 No.659865
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>>650197
If India is an US ally, why does the Indian Air Force have Ruskie planes and asks US for help to combat Pakky F-16s??!?
28d3ea No.659890
>>650420
>A single Fw 190 cost 56000 Reichsmark to produce in 1944
>56000 Reichsmark at the time roughly equals 15555 Euros in CY+4
df646d No.659994
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>>655468
Most of the traitor to Uncle Adolf were Prussian Junker. stauffenberg, canaris, etc.
And our nobility had a habit of allying with the enemies. Fucking king of Bayern allied with Napoopan out of butthurt. He was THAT retarded.
64241d No.660178
>>659994
>And our nobility had a habit of allying with the enemies.
That's true of every nobility on the planet.
Elites allies with foreign elites against their own people all the time.
779802 No.660190
>>659994
Wonder what have happened if Napoleon didn't attack Russia and kept Germany.
Would Europe be united by now?
779802 No.660191
>>660190
>what would have happened*
28fbdc No.660228
>>650461
Does Ukraine produce it's own shit?