57e6c8 No.649709
How heavy would you want sheets of dyneema to be if you were integrating it into clothing? As thick/heavy as you could get it while still being flexible? Would you want multiple sheets in front of each other for increased resistance, and if so, how many could you use before it stops increasing resistance or becomes impractical? Would having them glued to trauma pads/having trauma pads behind them somewhere have the same rib saving effect as in a normal armored vest?
Considering getting some 5oz/yard tailored into my jacket, is this too thick or is it just fine?
3cfdb2 No.649711
>>649709
Why use faggy, brand named, UHMWPE string when you could just use monolithic blocks of the stuff instead?
000000 No.649714
>>649711
For an all out combat uniform this would be nice, assuming they could be shaped into more than just rectangles, but for no profile armor sheets would be the only option if you wanted it to be flexible and not look like you came out roblox.
PS: is there actually non-brand name dyneema you can buy online not from alibaba currently?
3cfdb2 No.649715
>>649714
>is there actually non-brand name dyneema you can buy online not from alibaba currently?
>not from alibaba
Haha, no. China's still one of the few countries that doesn't give a shit about patents and IP law in general.
a94786 No.649757
>>649709
https://hackaday.io/project/6151-diy-ultralight-pistol-stab-proof-stf-armor
Most armored clothing that's commercially available is still made from Kevlar and you'll find a lot more info available on how to DIY that. If you're hellbent on using dyneema then you'll have to dig in the technical research yourself.
Why not just buy UHMWPE armor 'plates' off AliExpress?
fd9bd8 No.649758
>not just wearing chainmail
1354bd No.649766
>>649758
Yeah good luck sewing it into a vest then, even using a sewing machine takes a fuckload of time to stitch it in since you have to manually arrange each holes by yourself.
>>649709
Wait a sec, how the hell will you wash it then? I thought that washing kevlar is bad for the fabric.
3cfdb2 No.649771
>>649757
>Why not just buy UHMWPE armor 'plates' off AliExpress?
>Why not just buy UHMWPE' 'armour' 'plates off Aliexpress?
FTFY
fd9bd8 No.649772
>>649766
You're needlessly over-complicating things. Just buy quality chainmail and wear whatever clothes you want on top of it.
1354bd No.649775
>>649772
>Wearing chainmail without any protection under it
>Just cover it up brah lol
>Noone will knew that you’re wearing some thick metal nets under your clothes no siree
Hmmm gee i wonder what happens when said chainmail gets broken up by high-velocity projectiles? Really gets that noggin joggin. Also you’re missing the point of OP, as much of a faggot he is.
75ca38 No.649786
I've been thinking about getting something like this, but I don't know if it'd be any good.
http://www.bulletblocker.com/bullet-blocker-ranch-coat.html
d78ac4 No.649788
fd9bd8 No.649801
>>649775
>Noone will knew that you’re wearing some thick metal nets under your clothes no siree
You could wear a thin summer shirt over chainmail and nobody would notice.
> i wonder what happens when said chainmail gets broken up by high-velocity projectiles?
It will stop arrows and knives. If you want to stop bullets then buy a vest
bc71d0 No.649807
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/k/ no longer stays up to date in infantry technologies. Thats why it is a shitposting board now.
3cd639 No.649808
>>649807
Go away, Spergkike.
bc71d0 No.649811
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>>649808
>(1)
>literally not one single contribution to the thread
>pure asshurt
Not even THAT kraut tbh. But stay mad, mutt.
Anyway, hard armor segment of the industry is always so shady. You rarely find an up to date test, and it is usually from consumers.
bc71d0 No.649832
>niggers in the thread seriously ponding buying armor material through alibaba
75ca38 No.649848
>>649788
>mfw ballistic codpiece
f65a04 No.649854
>be a person of importance
>know you are a possible assassination target
>don't want to look scared by walking around heavily armoured all the time
>invest in shit that looks like normal clothes
<enemy sniper uses a high caliber rifle that laughs at your body army
alterntively
<get shot in the head
How would one protect himself from such attacks?
190fc7 No.649860
>>649854
Have a life guard with flashy uniforms and live ammunition.
1023a8 No.649864
>>649854
Or alternatively make a System in which no worker of your nation would raise a hand on you, and then invade the countries opposing you.
f65a04 No.649873
>>649864
>worker
>implying it won't be some CIA nigger
>>649860
Those don't really deal with rooftop snipers
58784f No.649875
>>649854
Just make sure you become a martyr for your people, make it better for the enemy for you to be alive than to taste the wrath of those who would come after you.
d78ac4 No.649881
>>649848
Do you think there's a model that comes with bayonet lugs?
d44db7 No.649884
>>649854
Invest in a popemobile. Alternatively. you can be a real trend setter and go for the Taiwanese faceless goon aesthetic. a "be the man the hivemind wants you to be" sorta thing. I'd vote for ya.
1354bd No.649892
>>649788
Good for protecting against high-velocity debris, but i don’t think any sane person would aim for the D though.
>>649801
Why bother with a chainmail then?
>>649854
They can’t shoot you if they don’t know where you are, ergo being a NEET that paid attention to his online footprint will pay huge dividends. Also has there been any sniper assassination recently? I’m guessing that Mossad will be the one that has 70 years worth of experience on that topic.
75ca38 No.649900
>>649881
Why not modify one of those water squirter flowers for pepper spray and attach it?
57e6c8 No.649919
>>649766
I don't know much about washing armor, but I'm assuming that dyneema isn't the same as kevlar, and people use 0.51oz/yard sheets of this stuff to make tents for mountaineering, which I would say is probably a lot more rigourous than washing it. I actually never washed the jacket I want to put it in, since its never gotten major filth on it before
>>649758
I'm not just looking for stab resistance, I'm looking for resistance to most/all pistol calibres and rifle calibres as a bonus if its at all possible.
I'm primarily looking at this stuff https://ripstopbytheroll.com/products/5-0-oz-dyneema-composite-fabric-hybrid-ct9hk-18-wov-6 although according to the sales it doesn't appear to be all that popular, which I'm wondering if its because the people buying aren't buying for armor purposes or if they are and they're buying the lighter stuff because it has better ballistic performance
92d6e0 No.649928
>>649919
wash your fucking clothes you mongrel, its got all your sweat since you bought it on it you fucking disgusting neet
if you dont keep up with hygiene, even/especially when shtf/total war, you WILL die a slow death by disease. Even if you get hit and know how to patch the wound, your filthy clothes will get it infected and you die.
jacket is dry-clean only? its no good for long term innawoods or shtf. You need clothes you can maintain, everything from sewing rips back up, buttons back on, to cleaning it.
432cb2 No.649946
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>>649919
>I'm looking for resistance to most/all pistol calibres and rifle calibres as a bonus if its at all possible
How do you intend to use it? Daily concealed wear? Innawoods? Showing off at the range? IIIa vest is the goto for wearing, or at least trauma plate, though they have less coverage. IIIa armor is really easy to make/get nowadays and if not nigger rigged is very light and flexible. Innawoods/SHTF loadout? Level III+ is the best choice, with UHMWPE being the lightest, as well as buoyantalso comes with padding by default, albeit expensive, going heavier is retarded. Mall ninja or other poseur - level IV with hexagons drawn over, bonus gayness points for rainbow reflective surface.
There also are more specialized options for daily wear like bulletproof clothes but you'll have to do your research. Probably not worth it over basic vest.
There's also Angel Armor that make rifle rated plates for daily wear but the full package is still not very concealable, even if lightweight, so it's probably not worth it either.
If you're poorfag and can't use rifle plates concealable level IIIA is still pretty good, it'll protect you from pistol rounds, shrapnel and occasionally even rifle rounds, as level IIIa helmets did on several occasions against 7.62x39 from longer ranges. These helmets are sturdier than the armor, though, so if rifles are a threat at least double up on these soft plates, this might save your ass.
We need a better body armor classification, though. Something in between III and IIIa, like doubled IIIa being able to stop more threats, even rounds like 7.62x25 and probably 5.7 and 22tcm, as well as better shock absorption, and III- that can only stop 7.62x39, maybe even from 50-100m or so, or stop low energy intermediate rifle rounds only, which would be very useful in helmets, as higher energy ones could probably knock you out or snap the neck anyway, while more predictable protection would be a great addition.. Basically, fill in the gap between rifle and pistol rounds instead of separating these two groups like retarded gun controllers.
01507b No.649954
>>649892
>>649788
Why wouldn't you try to aim for the crotch area? If the rounds go low, then enemy will be incapacitated, if they hit on mark, then the same thing happens, if they go over, then they will hit torso, which may either incapacitate the enemy or do fuck all due to body armor.
90711f No.649955
>>649954
You aim with the intent to hit your mark not planing to miss.
Secondly life isn't a video game if you have time to carefully aim at a dudes nuts then you probably didn't actually need to shoot him and if you did then you should have just put two in his chest and not taken the risk on some dumb trick shot.
d78ac4 No.649959
>>649900
>He doesn't want to rape his enemies with 11 inches of high carbon steel, penetrating deep into the other mans chest cavity with every thrust.
>He doesn't want to groan with joy as each hip thrust sends the sword bayonet into the enemy.
>He doesn't want to chase the enemy down to the tune of the Benny Hill theme.
Gay. Having said that though, if you set up the pepper-spray thing alongside the dick bayonet then you should be able to make it jizz pepper-spray inside the wound. Which would actually be kind of funny.
>>649954
The chest is a bigger target, making it easier to hit, and even if you do miss your intended point you stand a decent chance of the shot landing on the lower stomach, arms, or on a lucky headshot. It's also easier for a soldier to just line up his sights on the largest chunk of the enemy he can see no that does not mean that Burger infantrymen have a large number of soldiers who get shot in the ass/gut.
41f697 No.649960
>>649954
>Finns
>Sane
Case in point
>>649919
>Not washing your clothes
>It doesn't look dirty so it's clean :^)
I can that guess you are the type of person who never changes their bedsheets, are you not?
Either way, it's surprising to see at how disgusting some anons can be here. Hygiene is another aspect of innawood that is often overlooked, and yet there are people like OP who had never cleaned their own fucking clothes.
>>649959
Why not have it spray the AIDS as well while you're on it.
Jizz can be used for sustenance after all especially for future slaves
d78ac4 No.649966
>>649960
>Why not have it spray the AIDS as well while you're on it
I don't particularly want to handle a vial of HIV, and spraying pepper spray directly into an open wound sounds funnier and would have its effect almost immediately rather than in 20 odd years time.
>Jizz can be used for sustenance after all
Average human ejaculation has about 5 calories in it. Unless it's a particularly fat slave that you want to slim down they would need to be sucking dick pretty much constantly
>2000/5 = 400 cumshots per day to match advised calorie intake
>Circa 30 minutes per BJ
>800 hours = ~33 days
So the slave would need to be sucking dick all day every day for a month to get one days caloric intake. That's before you consider the time you'd need to give them the appropriate supplements to make sure they don't just go full malnutrition. I could see it working as a punishment for the more annoying feminists, but not practical for anything else.
dd4ea5 No.649967
>>649928
It is because it has to be dry cleaned, its made of wool. I'll have it done soon, but its probably not what I would take intothewoods.
>>649960
Guilty as charged
>>649946
Daily wear, thats the ballsiest video I've ever seen.
>padding by default
I can't imagine this is true with sheets, maybe with blocks
>going heavier is retarded
As in a different armor thats heavier or dyneema thats heavier? I still want to know what the best weight/yard to use if I'm going to get some
432cb2 No.649970
>>649967
>I can't imagine this is true with sheets, maybe with blocks
UHMWPE plates do have additional padding and a slick fabric around the edges to make it easier to insert into the carrier. These are rifle plates and are even thicker than steel ones.
>As in a different armor thats heavier or dyneema thats heavier?
As in carrying level IV plates unless you are facing 90% of fire in 308 ap from close distance is retarded, and this doesn't really ever happen. I've not heard of a case of someone using a medium machine gun with AP ammo for room defense, so room clearing is out of question, while in other situations you're either too far or the plate covers too little to matter or suggest hauling additional 5kgs on yourself.
You aren't getting reliable rifle protection from any soft armor, i was talking about hard armor plates that you buy for money from competent people making them.
2337f5 No.649971
>>649711
>tfw no tactical bone-dad to go 'splorin creepy caves with
432cb2 No.649974
>>649967
As for daily wear, basic option is either get yourself a light IIIa vest with good coverage, there are plenty of options, search for some bulletproof clothing or, if concealment is not a requirement, look into that angel armor, it seems to be pretty good for being more wearable, lighter and smaller than UHMWPE.
0da1b5 No.649978
>>649884
>not aesthetic devtac ronin level 3a ballistic helmet
you're disappointment, anon
a285cf No.649991
>>649978
Is it strong enough to prevent the jaws from getting blown off?
dd7f2c No.649992
>>649766
>>649775
hey check it out, a new friend
25ec07 No.650035
>>649966
You bring a very reasonable argument brit, i guess i went as raunchy as possible but ending up falling flat on my face. Still, it is a good tactic for pepper-spraying would be slaves before abducting them.
>>649978
That looks cool, but abit too big for the head. Care to elaborate more on that helent?
628a28 No.650044
>>649978
cyberpunk corporate police force/10
Would wear to hostile acquisitions.
432cb2 No.650069
>>649978
And best of all - it has built in ventilation fans on top so you don't get hot in there.
0da1b5 No.650075
>>649991
Probably, but I'm not sure because different parts of the helmet have different bulletproof ratings.
You should check out DemolitionRanch' video about it… there aren't many intentionally shooting at these things because they are quite expensive… the airsoft model is $500+, and the ballistic one I believe is several thousands of shekels.
>>650035
>but abit too big for the head
As >>650069 says, there is quite some schway stuff that adds to the volume, but the helmet weighs only 2Kg.
7a034c No.650091
>>649978
Reminds me of these guys
133c9c No.650138
>>650075
>>649978
What does this do that a IIIa helmet with Crye chops doesnt? Or better yet, a IIIa helmet with full IIIa visor?
ba5d69 No.650141
>>650138
This one makes you look like a retard(badass) and cuts off your peripheral vision(protects your eyes).
133c9c No.650143
>>650141
But a iiia visor does everything you listed better and has no sacrifice except maybe a weird cheek weld.
Has /k/ stoop to the level of airshitters?
ba5d69 No.650147
>>650143
Figures a kraut wouldn't know anything about war. The number one thing is intimidation, not pure efficiency. A normal helmet makes you look like a fag. while the ronin makes you look like a cyberpunk ninja. Who would want to fight a cyberpunk ninja? No one. When your enemy surrenders every time, why does it matter how "good" your equipment is?
90711f No.650150
>>650147
Who wants to be a gay mall ninja when you could be a tacticool centurion
133c9c No.650152
>>650147
I know you are attempting to be funny, mutt. But I hope Zogbots do end up adopting this piece of shit.
d78ac4 No.650169
>>650150
>No crest
>No Aquila
>No neck guard
<CI% barbaric
13fcab No.650175
>>650152
>implying all the NATO members are not zogbots
15f499 No.650176
>>650150
That's cool as shit.
e1c64d No.650190
>>650150
>>650169
>cut off broom head and JB weld to the top
>use dustpan as neck guard
>capture eagle, JB weld to stick
SPQR
d78ac4 No.650208
>>650190
I know that they provide no tactical benefit, but why don't we see body armour with this level of craftmanship anymore? No, not the metallurgy, but the attention to detail and the artistry on the metalwork.
2879e5 No.650214
>>650208
Today's ceremonial uniforms are less flashy than what the average infantryman wore during the Napoleonic wars. You'd have to reverse this two century old trend and then by the 2200s you'd actually see the kind of armour you want.
a840c4 No.650238
>>650214
Why do mutts have shit tier aesthetic and always look so repulsive?
737ce2 No.650242
>>650238
Our WW2 uniforms didn't surrender
b8ba93 No.650244
>>650242
>Our ww2 served the kikes and commies
Nice one, shitskin.
01507b No.650245
Because ugliness is the new normal in the west.
0805c1 No.650246
>>650245
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d78ac4 No.650300
>>650214
What, exactly, is the woman on the right wearing? What sort of mental defective would it take to design and sign off on a uniform like that? It looks like the sort of thing canteen staff would wear to protect their clothes from splashes. If she's fat/pregnant enough to need something like that then what the hell is she doing in uniform in the first place?
7c452f No.650336
>>650300
The mulatto hordes always need more bodies. A more consensual type of goblin horde, tbh
46eff7 No.650341
>>650208
>but the attention to detail and the artistry on the metalwork.
Because it's a waste of effort going into something that should be function first and foremost.
Combat isn't a fancy outfit parade. Nobody's gonna care anyway.
d78ac4 No.650408
>>650341
>MUH FUNKSHEOOOOOOONALITY!
I'm not suggesting that soldiers play dress up with complicated outfits that get in way of their job. I'm saying that there's no reason not to make these things beautiful in a way that doesn't impact on performance.
83662f No.650412
Basics:
UHMW (ex dyneema, spectra) is a jelly looking thing that works by having thousands of layers of it, where each layer has a strong static attraction to the next layer (van der waals) so when a bullet hits the layers slide but the attraction between them spreads the impact energy out. That's why it mostly comes in plate and you'll rarely see a weave of it.
Aramids (ex rusar, kevlar) are actual strands that work by looming them into strong fibers, which are then woven tightly against one another. When a bullet hits the strength of the fiber itself keeps it from penetrating, and the weave spreads out the energy. Only a dozen or so layers are enough to stop most civilian arms, but there's no attraction between the layers without some kind of glue.
Ceramics work by being extremely brittle and hard, when a bullet strikes them the ceramic shatters and the cracks/fault lines during the shattering are what spread the impact force over a larger area. This is why its good to have small ceramic plates, because it can only be used once. Ceramics often need a backing of steel, so when they shatter they don't fly all over the place.
>some people itt don't know jack
8d93a7 No.650414
>>650408
But muh baste quote from gookjima's gay fiction!!!
7a034c No.650445
>>650408
Because it costs more
t. goberment
dd4ea5 No.650641
>>650408
A bummer, but unless they were cast or made in some way that doesn't take time, the time spent making things ornate could be spent on making more of the item
d78ac4 No.650645
>>650641
there's a fair number of pieces are either cast or stamped at the moment. You could work a suitable design into those at the construction phase.
720332 No.650715
>>650208
Partially bc of functionality meme, and partially bc we're fielding 15-100x more people in an infantry force these days.
238a18 No.651165
>>649873
>the Fuhrer gets taken out by a single well placed bullet
>6000 rifles simultaneously light up the window where the shot came from
Come again?