/k/ - Weapons

What's the legality of that shotgun? Was it registered?

>>610228

Could be a shockwave

>>610231

It is a shockwave, you can see it in the video.

>>610212

this entire scenerio is funny to me

>neighbors toss trash into each other's yard

>orange shirt has diagnosed mental problems

>orange shirt goes nuts and grabs a baseball bat and goes out to confront old man

>orange shirt tries to commit suicide via high blood pressure by flailing and screaming

>grandpa pulls a plinker out of his shorts

>familial bonds come into effect and his younger body double comes out with a shotgun

>orange shirt is too low IQ that maybe screaming about killing armed men isn't the best idea

>orange shirt throws bat at grandpa

>ded

<OMGEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THEY KILLED EACH OTHER OVER TRASH XDDD DUMB REDNECKS XDDDDD

>>610251

Not appreciating the most kino scene of the decade with

<you won't shoot my husband

>If you come closer than 3 feet, I'll shoot you

>charges with a bat

>Bang

<booohooo, Aaron? Aaron?! AAAAAROOON?!

>>>/tv/1600651

>u wont

<dies

>>610259

>Aaron

Please tell me he was a kike too.

>>610267

He was mentally ill, check the /tv/ thread.

>>610272

>>610274

The son reminds me of Mr. Pink from reservoir dogs, but obese.

>guys with guns get threats of death multiple times

<I'm gonna take your gun and shoot you in the head

<I'm gonna kill you

<you're dead

>retard threaten to use a BB gun

>someone runs in to assholes house to grab a bat of all things to give to asshole

>asshole uses bat

>gets shot

>dies

>two chuckle fucks with guns being calm at best keeping muzzle well away from asshole and saying fuck you at worst

Please tell me they only got arrested for some stupid procedure thing. We need more 30yo boomers removing blatantly retarded people.

**Even with the media running overtime trying to vilify guns/owners I think they're causing an opposite effect in that non gun people start fantasizing about how they'll take down a spree shooter with their bare hands so there's actually less fear of guns. People need to be reminded of their mortality so that even thinking about doing something stupid to another would immediately bring their thoughts to the possibility of a gun being involved. Causing the retards to rethink their possible actions from the very beginning before stupidity is initiated, instead of making them think about how to use a rock or stick to clobber the head of another causing an escalation during the middle of the stupidity.

So was it justified? I dont see the bat being thrown until after the shots.

>>610300

>I dont see the bat being thrown until after the shots.

It wasn't really thrown, he took a swing at the old guy and got blasted and let the bat go.

Lefties and antiguns get fucking frothing retarded over this video, because armed blobs (with no jobs?) can put you down with little effort, regardless of your physical prowess.

>>610296

>30 yo boomers

W

tff

F?

>>610317

It's an ebin maymay.

>>610267

you really hate jews huh ouzo chan?

>>610259

The funniest thing is the video exonerates them, and if the stooopid dam bich hadn't released it they would be in deep trouble. Now the prosecutor has a problem: a video that exonerates the guys he's charged. If he goes through with the charges he'll lose.

>>610357

Their greatest ethnoreligious holiday is about genociding Greeks, what gives?

>>610373

hey i aint knockin it, but make sure to save some hate for the turks and muslims too ouzo chan

>>610384

Tac 14 probably

>>610386

>>610388

See here:

>>610362

>>610384

How much does that chest hair cost?

>>610393

Fuck off, faggot.

stock-less shotguns are worthless for self defense

reminder not to bring a bat to a gunfight

>>610384

I think it's the Remington Loophole that's "non-NFA item"

>>610400

I think not threatening to murder people who have shotguns and handguns is more crucial to survival.

tfw everyone is blind, didn't notice the logo:

>>610362

best part is the wife, who gets the baseball bat and encuorages the confrontation, while claiming "You will not shot my husband".

Either she is retarded or she wanted to get rid of her husband.

>>610370

Get the crazy husband shot and later release the vid to help out the killers? I mean, wouldn`t normally the police confiscate the vid if she (and the shooters) said she had made one?

>>610423

Thanks. I feel honored.

>>610432

>>610370

Apparently she released the video to the (((media))) BEFORE she gave the clip to the authorities.

>>610402

>Loophole

theyve been selling "persuaders" for fucking years, they literally just changed the grip

>>610434

So her husband got lead poisoning, police and ambulance arrives, everybody gets asked for their story, she forgets (or lies) about the existence of the vid, then turns around and sends the vid to the media (and later to the police), even gives an interview https://archive.fo/dF3b and the corpse of her husband is still warm?

I bet those two did her a favor.

>>610438

how fucked is she?

>>610442

She's a single mother now, so she'll be showered in gibs. No idea if there was life insurance, but she'll still probably make bank from a gofundme.

The last thread about this got deleted or moved?

I remember someone posted Aaron's felon record and some of his kikebook pictures, but I didn't saved it.

>>610447

I think that's the /tv/ thread?

>>610442

depends on how fast she finds a new man.

Legally speaking there will be no consequences for a "grieving" widow forgetting something and sharing it later with everyone.

>>610445

maybe she declares her children retarded like their daddy to get some government gibs.

>>610463

she can send the video to the media, but she forgets to send it to the cops.

>>610212

What was the origin of the dispute? A mattress? I read this happened behing the dead anger mans property. Were the two good ol' boys dumping trash behind his property? I'd be mad too, but not mad enough to get myself killed.

>>610475

the mattress belonged to the crazy man, he threw it in someones(not his own or they would have specified that) dumpster and father son duo brought it back to him. He caught them in the process and immidiatly threatened them and Dad pulled his pistol.

>>610479

Fuck well deserved. I hate people who can't properly dispose of their own trash with a burning passion.

>>610479

>>610480

Doubtless the bich made him do it. He's not the kind of guy to bother cleaning up trash.

>>610513

I think the biggest mistake was how little effort was made to deescalate the situation. The "take a swing" comments put him in a bad light and if they are going to get him on something it's going to be that. It seemed like no shirt had enough and was looking for an excuse to shoot the guy.

Don't get me wrong I'm on the side of the old man, but I think the situation could have been handled better.

>>610523

This is a cut and dried case, but, alas, retarded bich, like all #WorldStarHipHop videoistas, failed to record the money shot. Still, we know who attacked first.

And that's always the most important thing for juries.

Kikes, you know how kikes always claim that the palistianians were the first to attack? Ask them, they are just retaliating. Retaliation is a fundamental principle of the innate human sense of justice.

They walk. And Soros & minions will bich about it.

>>610523

You kidding me? Have you ever been in a fight in your life? Or even a mildly inflamed argument? One of the most mundane things people say is 'touch me'. What, do you want them to grovel at the feet of a degranged psychotic and beg him to stop saying he's going to kill them? Especially since grandpa was chill about it while the other dude is loosing his fucking mind, I don't think the shirtless duo could've done anything to deescalate even if I wanted them to, which I don't, because they have every right to stand where they stood and not retreat from a dude threatening to kill them. Not the defensive party's problem to deescalate.

>>610525

What I love is how Tac-14 man is cowed by the guy yelling an interruption.

These loudmouths and their whores mistake courtesy and certain standards of social behavior for a lack of bravery.

It took a man of real substance to pull that trigger.

Triggerman, I salute you!

>>610513

If you go to 2:12 minutes in the video it shows orange shirt throwing the bat at the gray haired man and in response to that he gets shot with buck. Before then we couldn't even see who attacked first, but only heard the pistol going off and the orange shirt stumbling back. The only thing that we can really look at to determine if the shooting can be justified is the amount of force being presented on both sides and who was in the right to brandish it when the confrontation first started. I think likely this is going to be voluntary manslaughter for the both of them if their defense can't prove orange shirt could've been charged with assault/battery.

>>610530

Even if they can't, their gimme's are:

>Orange shirt had violent mental issues

>Orange shirt confronted first

>Orange shirt threatened to kill them multiple times and described how he'd do so

>My client gave multiple warnings to back off.

>A bat was thrown before he was incapacitated, suggesting he attacked first

>>610528

>These loudmouths and their whores mistake courtesy and certain standards of social behavior for a lack of bravery.

<He's maintaining his demeanor in the face of my belligerence.

<That means I can fuck with him without repercussion! REEEEEEE

>>610525

>One of the most mundane things people say is 'touch me'.

I'm not saying "Try me" comments are uncommon, I'm saying they will make old guy's time in court more difficult. I'm sorry that wasn't clear.

>What, do you want them to grovel at the feet of a degranged psychotic and beg him to stop saying he's going to kill them?

No. I think he shouldn't egg the psycho on. I think old guy was right in his decision to inform orange shirt what would happen if orange shirt were to attack, and he was right to tell orange shirt to step back. He was right to stand his ground, and he was right to shoot the guy. Doubly so if the law shows orange shirt charged first.

>I don't think the shirtless duo could've done anything to deescalate

I agree so far as nothing they could say would deescalate. I doubt even an apology would work, and orange shirt isn't entitled to an apology so fuck it. They could have walked away, but like you said…

>they have every right to stand where they stood and not retreat from a dude threatening to kill them

and I agree with that.

>Not the defensive party's problem to deescalate.

No, they are not obligated but if they said less they would be better off come their court date.

Will we get an anime adaptation with 2hus?

>>610542

One can only hope. The audio is there.

Honestly what's bothering me is how much the media is spinning the story to make it seem like the son and dad combo already had their guns out. The son didn't even come out until he heard his dad getting yelled at according to early reports.

>>610513

Regardless of if its an alleyway or his private property the orangeshirt guy is clearly the aggressor while the two shirtless guys are being calm and standing their ground, sounds like a pretty clear cut case of legit self defense. Orangeshirt's history of being a paranoid schizophrenic is just icing on the cake.

This is an example of Soviet propaganda:

>>610564

>>610598

You're have to explain that one to me.

>>610300

Some important details are missing because of the camera work. To me it appears like the first 2 rounds didn't hit and could have been warning shots. The orange shirt guy then threw the baseball bat and started charging afterwards which made the son fire the shotgun. If this was the exact case of events then there is no way you can blame the 2 but because of the woman screwing up the filming when it mattered most it could have also gone entirely different.

>>610614

ahahahahaha

Now there was never a less true statement!!! You should be giving US classes.

>>610545

These are the perfect villians regarding the 2A for the media. "Dumb rednecks walk around armed in public and kill someone over trash. This is why we need to repeal the 2A."

And, in a way, you are.

>>610513

ARNEL SWARTZNIGGA'S TAKE ON THE GREAT MATTRESS WAR OF 18

kek

>>610707

>>610513

These two high-estradiol guys should've just gassed both psycho and his retarded bitch with a pepper spray.

>>610530

He didn't throw the bat. He got shot mid swing

>>610739

From my understanding, Fudd fires warning shots, orange throws the bat, then the Shirtless Wonders kill orange.

but i don't know. the timing doesn't seem right for the "shot mid swing" argument

Was the old fart holding an M&P Shield?

>>610754

looked like a Glock to me

>>610436

No, the Persuader has a 20" barrel+8 shot tube to meet the 26" OAL requirement. The Shockwave/Tac-14 have a 14" barrel+ the "birdshead"/sawed-off stock grip to meet the 26" OAL requirement. The "loophole" is that it lets them legally sell a shotgun with a 14" barrel without any SBS paperwork, since it doesn't have a stock, it's not a legal "shotgun", it's just a "firearm".

>>610530

Orange shirt guy had a phonebook sized record and the cops had multiple neighborhood complaints reports because he was a legit violent psycho. The cops literally responded to death threats on a third party from him the day prior.

Given that background it's normal for neighbors to immediately draw a gun in a confrontation.

Any half baked lawyer is gonna get the video written off as evidence as in 99% of those cases (since it doesn't show the beginning of the confrontation it's a full accusatory POV, there is a fucking metric ton of prior on this).

The real problem is the son (shows up with more guns, a fucking gimmicky shotgun at that, instead of trying to de-escalate and calling the cops first) and the fact that they didn't call the cops at all.

Rule 1 of gunfight is pack a gun, Rule 2 is pack a phone.

In any confrontation it's always word against word and it's stupid and shouldn't be a thing but the fact is the one that talk to the cops first gets a massive advantage, because the cops will come in thinking "situation X is happening" because it's what dispatch (authority figure) told them while if your story is "situation Y happened" they automatically think you're the one lying since all they hear is lie all day.

>>610799

I'm not shitposting when I say that I loved that video, I'm glad orange shirt is dead.

I doubt things go well for our two heroes. Looks like they shot orange shirt again when he was already downed. No bueno. All depends on how cucked that part of Texas is though.

>>610259

Text-book spaghetti western standoff. Could have been directed by Clint Eastwood himself.

>>610773

>instead of trying to de-escalate and calling the cops first

As sound advice as this is, I personally wouldn't feel safe taking my eyes off an attacker even for a moment so I can dig my phone out of my pocket. Yeah, it's good to call the police ASAP because of race to the courthouse and all that good shit but you're not always in a position to do so/

>>610707

Arnold, what is best in life?

>To crush your enemies

>To see them driven before you

>TO HEAR THE LAMENTATIONS OF THEIR WOMEN!

>>610302

Since it's murder it'll go to the State of Texas court. If they got a lawyer worth their salt they'll go free. Maybe they'll get hit with brandishing a weapon, but as for "murder" this is a clear cut self defense situation under Texas law. This dude threatened them with death and attack them with a deadly weapon, not only that but he has a history of threatening to kill people/

>>611066

I'll agree with you in that their getting convinced of any substantial criminal charge is unlikely.

The real question is, are they going to get fucked, and if so, how badly, in the inevitable civil suit?

>>611070

In Texas there's immunity for justifiable murder against civil cases. So if the court finds them innocent, they can't be held liable to a civil suit.

>>610502

>Doubtless the bich generosity made him do it. He's not the kind of guy to bother cleaning up trash.

>>610212

This entire incident is everything Europeans dream of when fantasizing about America.

>>611255

I know I do and it's the wettest dreams.

>>611449

>ywn be able to shoot down uppity gipsys breaking into your land

>>610300

Is there a follow-up story yet?

What happened to the two gunmen?

>>610539

>>610212

all four of these hick morons should be shot to death

>>611464

They got arrested for murder and then let out on 25k bail (which is pretty low for murder, suggesting that the prosecutor doesn't have much faith in his ability to convict them)

>>611519

eat shit yankee

>>611557

Can I be a Southern man if I'm a yank that moved to Dixie?

>>611559

No, fuck off, we're full. You can learn, Strelok, you can learn. You're safe down here. Welcome to America.

>>611557

This.

t. Alabama

>>611559

As long as you hate Yankees, you're southern enough to me

>>611523

>sticking up for fudd retards that live like niggers

inbred retard

>>611605

The battle lines have always been changing, anon. If the war were to happen again there's no way Kentucky wouldn't go hard south, and there's a real good chance it would take Indiana with it. West Virginia would probably secede as well. Illinois would stay with the Union just because of Chicago retards and along with Michigan and Wisconsin would likely retain control of the Great Lakes which would be unfortunate. The Confederacy could secure much of the western states (with the exceptions of California, Colorado, and Oregon) if they were to win the favor of the Mexicans. The war would still be difficult with the Union maintaining control of much of the more important ports but the Confederacy may actually have the upper hand when it comes to manufacturing and resources. We'd have to deal with armed insurrection by the African portion of the US though which will put a major hamper on troop mobilization in Dixie proper.

>>611611

>there's no way Kentucky wouldn't go hard south, and there's a real good chance it would take Indiana with it

The southern third or so, absolutely, but the rest of the state I'm not so sure about. Can you really imagine the average denizen of Carmel or Gary flying the stars and bars?

Basically anything between Chi-Town and South Bend is a lost cause, Kokomo's alright, Lafayette could go either way, I don't know enough about Fort Wayne, and Indianapolis just needs to be walled off and left to burn.

T- Hoosier

>>611612

You're right. I was speaking from my perspective as a south-central Hoosier and didn't consider the northern portion of the state. The dynamics of such a conflict would certainly be interesting for this state.

>>611562

>I'm not a regular here, and I usually go elsewhere to be angry at northerners.

Does that place have an autistic butterfly tripfag?

>>611567

>>611557

>>611536

>>611523

How do you do, fellow confederates

t. also Alabama

>>611567

>>611557

>>611536

>>611523

>>611627

A-Am I southern?

.t Southern Virginian

>>611628

On this glorious day, lad, any who carry the spirit of righteous rebellion in their heart may claim the title of True Southerner so long as he is willing to spill Yankee blood.

But yeah Virginia was a bonafide member state of the CSA so you're good to go by any account. West Virginians still have to atone for what they did though.

>>611616

I don't tripfag.

>>611628

Virginia and "West" Virginia are rightful southern clay and will be reconquered when the time is right.

>>611630

https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/blog/confederate-west-virginia/

West Virginia did not choose to leave, it was stolen from the rest of the state.

>>611655

Didn't mean to suggest you did, friend.

>>611666

There's no tripfags. It's mostly youtube comments sections on songs from the civil war and twitter.

>>611628

historically, yes. modern day? I don't know, cause I have never found sweet tea in virginia

>>611671

That just means we need a restoration. You can't tell me the state that gave us Lee and Jackson isn't southern.

>>611628

Better than a yank retard Lincolnite sodomite.

>>611675

Whatever homosexual

>>611679

>other peoples

>your southern brothers

>implying

Meanwhile thanks to Lincoln's legacy whites are getting conquered by (((another people))), right now, cunt.

>>611684

The war was so unpopular up north that even with a draft Lincoln had to let in a bunch of foreign immigrants and mercenaries to fight for him.

>>611679

My fellow neurotic racemixing propagandist!

>>611613

Not to mention the fact that you've got Indy, Cincy, and Luhville basically equidistant from each other; South East Indiana is gonna be swamped with hordes of urbanites fleeing a concrete hell of their own derivation.

So, target rich environment. Fun times.

>>611685

And most of them didn't want to deal with lincolnite bullshit either. Burnt down half of Manhattan over it.

>>611612

I got progressive family in Fort Wayne. According to them it's "a heavily Christian, super fucking conservative hick town, but everything is cheap, and I can get people to watch the kids, and my husband is making good money so I don't want to move out" according to my whore sister.

>>611783

Have you ever visited them? I've never seen a "dangerous conservative extremist" that was anything more than some irrelevant, center right dickhead.

>>611785

That's because these retards are so fucking far left that to them some center right milquetoast Republicans like Kavanaugh or Cruz are "far right conservatives." These faggots have never seen a far right white man before, it's going to be a rude rude awakening when the SHTF

>>611803

I'm just appreciating the fact he wrote his wife a letter to inform her she'd been cucked by an underage trap.

>>611821

Not really, plenty of shootings in the UK over dumb shit like postcodes.

>>611803

ok faggot

>>611821

orange shirt had it coming

>>611843

>ok faggot

You say so, but Bruce Jenner won woman of the year

>>611846

Because of current year liberal faggotry

>>611821

>retarded yuropoor speaks out of his ass

Business as usual I see.

>>611523

Alright, thank you.

>>611821

>>tfw anywhere else in the world they would have traded some punches and went home

You forgot the part where they would retaliate and start a feud that will have multiple deaths in the course of few years.

>>611523

Didn't realize the bail was that low. Usually they don't set bail for 1st degree.

>>611881

They might be hitting them with second degree instead.

>>611882

2nd degree murder doesn't exist in Texas. It's treated as murder. The more serious charge in Texas is called capital murder. It's sort of the same thing, 1st degree = capital murder 2nd degree = murder. Maybe they can make the argument for manslaughter but even then you have the guy yelling he was going to kill them and attack them with a baseball bat which is a deadly weapon in Texas law. If the defense can prove that he was committing aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, which is pretty easy considering that they have video, then this is classic self defense. It depends on where the shooting took place really, if the boomer duo had every right to be there then it's 100% self defense.

>>611885

>It depends on where the shooting took place really, if the boomer duo had every right to be there then it's 100% self defense

As far as I can tell it's their dumpster and that's why they didn't let Aaron toss the box spring in.

>>611891

>That shit will get you shot here in Texas.

That shit will get you shot anywhere.

An armed society is polite society.

>>611821

>He doesn't celebrate shooting violence

Do you even /k/ube?

>>611821

then go punch some muslims czechofaggot

>>611611

If you got rid of missoula and billings that'd be nice.

>>615927

And that's exactly who will be heading the prosecution.

>>611694

Black tea is just green tea that has been allowed to rot.

The process of fermentation creates new layers of flavor.

>>610525

>What, do you want them to grovel at the feet of a degranged psychotic and beg him to stop saying he's going to kill them?

That's not what 17c57 said you stupid nigger