/k/ - Weapons

Hickok "making niggers dive" 45

Hickok "the blacks won't survive" 45

Hickok "the coons won't get out alive" 45

Hickok "shoot the darkies with a Glock" 45

Boomer coward useful only for gun porn. His gun specific commentary is mostly worthless, its generic or obvious shit you can find in a 2 second google search, like DA/SA being hard to shoot out of double action. Yeah, no shit, that first long pull is designed as a safety.

Gun grabbing traitor.

>>600432

use his referral code to register at NRA so they erode your rights in baby steps instead of all at once.

Also, you can ask fellow fudds on intricacies of french cuisine (^:

A very friendly face to those outside of shooting. His videos are just plain laid back fun for the casuals, he uses dangerous "assault weapons" in a very laid back and fun way when people who are on the fence about gun control come to view things on the Youtube. What his videos lack in serious information for serious shooters is more than made up for in the effect of his gentle, non offensive, just shooting for fun approach to things for everyone else. A better influence upon the general public on internet media has not been found.

Don't listen to those bashing him, anti gunners have targeted him specifically before because they fear the whole "grandpa having fun with a black rifle" thing really crimps their 'scary black gun child murdering guns only for whackos" narrative. THEY want to paint anyone who owns an AR as some dipshit mall ninja lunatic and showing friendly normies enjoying a day at the range hurts that immensely.

Simply put, ol Hickok is good for gun rights with his format and style because of how it affects potential voters. Simply put EXTREME TACTICOOL GRUNGE MUSIC guys with their over the top fake hardcore style fits right into the gun control narrative when trying to aim at a bunch of voters. Non gun normies watching an friendly old man mow down jugs with a machine gun is great pro gun stuff, a far better influencer on the public image than other channels and personalities.

His videos are dumb fun, that's it. Don't get all fucked up that they aren't super hardcore really detailed super serious videos. People just lay back and relax to them and ENJOY them, God forbid you do that.

Watching all the hate for him makes me think that there are plenty of subversives on these boards nowadays. It isn't just hate for "Fudds' or the NRA because it waivers from time to time, you get the feeling that everyone is terrible and we need to destroy EVERY popular firearm Youtube personality. Gotta hate em all. Seems like more of a push to divide than anything else.

>>600446

he didn't he say cucking out on le bum stog was a 'strategic move' or something? there's some certain age where everybody that was born before a specific date is just completely fucking irredeemably retarded, the "TV generations" that grew up without free access to information via the internet

I do like his videos though, he'd be a cool grampaw. I envy his backyard and height

I like his review videos, and he seems like a decent person, but it's a real shame about his typical boomer tier compromise mentality.

There's no sense in being bitter about it though, just make sure you explain to people why compromising isn't going to make things better.

You probably won't get anywhere with boomers since they've been brainwashed since birth to always trust the main news outlets, but the younger generations are somewhat more willing to do research if you point them in the right direction.

>>600433

>some faggot adds "2 years"

>other faggots see it

>becomes repeated

2 years is too long, because Internet culture changes so rapidly.

>>600432

Lurk more, faggot.

>>600523

You caught me memeing, in reality I lurked for ~8 months back in the day and think ~6 months is more than enough.

NRA shill

He is good for people who are curious about guns and shooting sports. Basically, a good first step.

As for the complaints, many come across as jealousy since he has his own personal range and access to various firearms due to connections to gun store owners.

Others fail to understand the strategy and tactics of the NRA and base their criticisms on decades old legislation their leadership at the time initially supported. The truth is the NRA has defended the 2nd Amendment greatly especially since having the ATF handle the "bump stock" debate held back Congress from passing sensationalist laws after the Las Vegas incident.

I never understood /k/'s fascination with him. Granted he's a lot less cancerous and obnoxious than the average Youtuber on any subject, but information wise his videos are pretty poor. Don't get me wrong, he gives some pretty useful advice, but it's few and far in between and with videos being many and long it's a tiny fraction of his screen time. Most of it is just spent idly shooting without instructing the viewer in markmanship in a useful way, and when he isn't shooting he's being very longwinded about things that might as well have not been a Youtube video. The sheer volume of videos with little organization makes it difficult to use his channel for any sort of systematic learning or for buying advice. Paul Harrell's videos for instance are much more informative, get to the point, he often demonstrates tactical or ballistic principles when shooting rather than just shooting for the sake of shooting, and he has informative videos to the tune of "what gun to get" (where he doesn't recommend specific guns, but gives good advice that would help a newbie be less overwhelmed). Most of hickok's repertoire is "hey let's shoot this random gun and while I ramble on about god knows what" times a thousand.

I thought his apolitical, private manner was supposed to be read as secretly being /k/ tier, but his cucking completely disproves that. All this probably comes across very critical, but I like the guy as a person, and I don't mind watching one of his vids when I stumble on it. But I also wouldn't go out of my way to watch him, since it's not that information dense.

>>600462

>>600700

Is this why? The hope that nogunz will watch him and say "what a nice old man, just like my gramps! I'm gonna go buy a gun because he's so nice"? Or that you can send the link to your neighborhood gungrabber and say "see? not all of us gun nuts are evil baby killers! we're nice, we're not like those evil nazis who have scary black military weapons, we promise!" so she will forgive you and you can all hold hands together and sing kumbaya while open carrying a wooden stock, bolt-action rifle with a magazine capacity of <5 rounds?

In my experience, nogunz are too disturbed by the sound of gunshots and too bored by talk about details and specifics of a particular gun. With hickok, videos are also so long that attrition renders the whole business hopeless. I think the most palatable video for a nogunz would be a very short (<1 min) "so satisfying" video, masquerading as an accessible how to. For example, showing how to field strip a glock with editing that makes it look sexy, reddit infographic-tier comparison of holsters, how to safely carry and so on. The videos should have no or minimal talking, and be set to whimsical music or just be silent gifs, that way "scary gun noises" are masked. Normalfags would watch this purely to feel satisfied at watching someone do their job well, without any explicit intention to self-insert. But at the same time subconsciously they would associate the feeling of satisfaction with gun maintenance and safe gun handling (not emphasizing shooting is psychological strategy). And now you've opened the door to "nah, there's nothing dangerous about me open carrying, look it's a well designed holster with good retention and the gun is well-made with minimal risk of accidental discharge, it's just like in your satisfying gif".

>>600700

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand the National Rifle Association. The tactics are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of the Bill of Rights most of them will go over a typical American's head. There's also the GOP's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into their party- their personal philosophy draws heavily from Trotskyist literature, for instance. The life members understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these concessions, to realize that they're not just protecting our rights- they are making sure we keep our rights to own guns only for sport! As a consequence people who dislike the NRA truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the intelligence in the way they talk about banning 3D printed firearms which itself is a cryptic reference to East Germany's epic agency HV. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Wayne Lapierre's genius wit unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools.. how I pity them. 😂

And yes, by the way, i DO have an NRA tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the Range Officer's eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're in favor of my reasonable gun control (preferably more) beforehand. You don't need that for huntin' kid 😎

>>600722

Understand the enemy and his tactics. They fight with propaganda, both obvious and not obvious, they fight very hard to create narratives and images in people's minds. Very hard. They need control of narratives and flows of information for this to be mostly effective, they don't want dissent, but worse they don't want genuine images of truth that contradict that narrative. They don't like small images of views of reality that contradict this narrative. They really don't like the fact there is an old guy making videos with machine guns that defies and contradicts this image and narrative and has millions of subscribers.

Slow and heavy swings the big hammer. The 45-70 blackpowder didn't have hydrostatic shock and didn't always get the lightning quick kills of today's high power rifles. But the big old bullet, well placed, always punched deep and bled out the animal, even if it ran off thinking it could live. Hickcok isn't getting non gun owners to buy guns and "join up", he's not destroying gun control with powerful messages. But he is making weapons look like family friendly fun, non scary, taking the mystical nature of guns away for many, worst of all setting up the Fudd image that good natured normies enjoy shooting and owning weapons too. Watching him shoot at bottles with an Uzi while driving a tractor is just laid back fun. Bringing back the "good ol" American classical family based gun culture. He disarms the anti gun narrative by being a popular living contradiction.

They fight for control of an image, they try to suppress gun owners into not admitting they are gun owners, trying to make "respectable" people hide their ownership, to disappear as much as possible from public view. The local principle, pastor, teacher, community leader nonchelantly letting people know they are owners and users of these weapons in a calm way does more to bend their fake narrative to hell than almost anything else. When respectable upstanding NORP's represent their auto loading rifles the same way as their old bolt action rifles and pump shotguns, as part of normal healthy respectable Americana, it makes the whole "…bitterly holding onto their guns and religion" statements as damaging to themselves as possible.

He is calm, steady, he is palatable and acceptable to almost everyone. Without trying he is forcing people to view things in a way they don't want you to view it from. That's all he does? Good. That's all it takes to damage their narrative.

>>600432

He put some redneck on blast on facebook because he brought a confederate flag to a rally, and I commented how his status-signalling isn't going to convince anyone who wants to ban guns, because it won't.

He banned me, and many others.

>>600435

Your hero thinks there's not enough diversity in gun shooting, just saying.

>>600732

>That's all he does? Good. That's all it takes to damage their narrative.

>leftists are ready to murder their opposition

>cuckservatives just stand and take it because "that'll totally ruin their optics, checkmate real racists!"

>btw join the NRA with my referral so they'll erode your rights more effectively.

>>600432

>shoots gonnes

>provides relevant info on gonnes

>is memeworthy

He's no Paul Harrell but I still find his channel worth a watch.

>>600432

the videos themselves are soft, easy entry points for normalfags. anatomical dissections and detailed hour-long fests just don't appeal to most people, he shoots guns, acts chill, and that's it. i dunno if he's a faggot himself but there's nothing specifically wrong with his videos, granted i haven't seen one forever.

Won’t shut up about glocks, but at least he admits it.

Kinda fun grandpa to watch plink at the same targets.

Actually does decent reviews.

More to the point than many other youtubers. Voice isn’t annoying like many others.

7/10 bready gud

His videos themselves are fine and comfy. Outside of that he's a typical boomer "muh optics" cuckservative.

>nu-/k/ doesn't like hickok

What the fuck happened? Seriously, what happened to this place?

>>600755

he's a boomer cuckold

hopefully he gets banned

>>600755

>>600446

>>600438

>>600879 he's a coward, insufferable, hypocritical, outdated and a borderline fudd

>>600732

I understand the enemy's tactics, but sometimes I don't really understand ours. Going by what you say, he's just one guy out of many. Only if there was an actual large number of visible people like him, would the argument work that "normal grandpas like machineguns too". Otherwise, the "enemy" will sooner say "it's just that one guy, most gun owners are still babykillers".

Of course you gotta start somewhere. I get that today it's hickok45, tomorrow it's hickok46 and 47, and maybe one day we can point out to a whole laundry list of gun owners with good optics. But why does /k/ obsess over hickok specifically, supposedly a channel targeting nogunz and clueless newbies?

I'm also very skeptical of any youtuber as some sort of evidence of any norm. Everybody knows youtube is a freakshow full of unreal weirdos who make money from wacky vids because they won the meme lottery. I think most people don't parse hickok as a representative of the family-friendly, respectable gun owner community. If anything they see him as "lol this old gramps is shooting babykilling rifles like fps russia but he's just a grandpa so randumb xD". Youtube in general is a terrible way to represent what's normal in reality, because by its nature it's a site showcasing the eccentric and unusual.

I just don't think hickok is changing many nogunz' minds. He's mostly preaching to the choir. The people watching him are already gun owners or at least pro-guns. You can tell (among many other ways) by how the comments on his videos are typically much more intelligent than the typical Youtube video. Media and anti-gun commentators just ignore him, because there's thousands of other gun youtubers that instead play up the dangerous crazy badboy image.

>>600879

>he shoots guns guiz hes good

he is the epitome of all the losing we've been having in the gun world since his worthless generation came into existence.

fuck off with your enlightened centrism

>>600896

>why does /k/ obsess over hickok

we don't

I like watching people have fun shooting, so I like him. Not the best gun reviewer there is… however, because he enjoys almost every single gun he gets his hands on, if he has anything negative to say about a particular firearm, it's probably a piece of shit. I also use him to make myself feel better about impulsive gun purchases: "I bought this gun because it looked pretty without having any experience with it or knowing much about it - but then I watched Hickok's review, and he loved it, so I definitely didn't make a mistake!"

kcmod

lol he's gay

>>600879

Read the thread faggot.

A lot of streloks like his videos, some think they're shit, but most of us acknowledge he's got cucked boomer logic in regards to gun politics.

There's no need to worship the fucker, at the end of the day he's your average youtube eceleb with some fun content but shit opinions.

>>600755

>Your hero thinks there's not enough diversity in gun shooting, just saying.

There isn't, especially young people. We need to make the shooting sports a thing just like driving. Nobody is seriously advocating to ban something everyone does.

>He put some redneck on blast on facebook because he brought a confederate flag to a rally

Because it's retarded and proponents of this rely on revisionist history. It's not about status signaling, for all you know, the old man himself finds it distasteful.

>>601784

>Nobody is seriously advocating to ban something everyone does.

I remember a story where a state forbid people to refuel cars at gas stations themselves, is it true?

>>601784

>"mmm I like having dick deep inside the back of my throat"

fuck your optics cuckery

and fuck you up the ass, and the dildo you rode in on.

>>601786

That would be Oregon. As >>601789 put it they changed it recently.

>>601794

Did I say I agree with him? No. Maybe learn to read first. Hickock was a teacher. I'm sure he could teach you to do that as well as shoot.

>>601784

Anyone who whines about diversity never has good intentions. He claims to be libertarian but bans people left and right for hurting his feelings, justifying it with the classic "it's not the government doing it so it's okay!''. There are so many superior gun publications and youtubers, and he's the one that has to always be discussed. Oh, and he's an NRA shill, forgot to mention.

>>601883

>Anyone who whines about diversity never has good intentions. He claims to be libertarian but bans people left and right for hurting his feelings, justifying it with the classic "it's not the government doing it so it's okay!''.

That's pretty in line with libertarian thought. If you were at my house, hurting mah feelings, I would probably kick you out. You wouldn't consider that censorship, would you?

>There are so many superior gun publications and youtubers, and he's the one that has to always be discussed.

Because he's comfy and a great shot.

>Oh, and he's an NRA shill, forgot to mention.

The NRA seems to only work when Democrats are in office. As soon as a Republican that wants to ban certain things comes in, they support them. I don't like the Trump cocksucking they've stooped to, but that's how it is. I personally would tell you not to give them money until they change their politics. This has happened before, it can again.

>>600786

You have to understand friend, that the point the other anon was making was that this single guy breaks a narrative being held by those who want to ban guns from the public's hands. It's perfectly fine to have two or three of these guys doing it, especially of their free will, because that will let us do other things, it gives people ground to push for more open firearms laws. personally I've been thinking we need to fight their fire with fire. Have a group of people advocate for private recreational nuclear arms. Have them build up arguments that, while ridiculous make a reasonable amount of sense. Then bring in a group that says, "These guys are being too extreme, we only want common sense reform like removal of the NFA. We still want background checks, and making sure everyone is safe, but stats have shown that automatic weapons are used in less crimes than handguns." just start pushing back in the other direction.

as for the main part of your argument, realize that even if leftists want to kill anyone right of Stalin, they will have to fire the opening shot, otherwise it won't be easy to justify shooting them easily. As long as you have some ass hole screaming, " death to fascists!" while gunning down people, it'll be open season from there. Bonus points if it just some Republicans or Democrats

>>601866

>muh denialism

neck yourself immediately

>>601887

>That's pretty in line with libertarian thought.

Since when is libertarian thought banning and shaming just because "it's not the government" doing it? Even if that was true, why is hickok such a whiny brat?

>>601939

Whatever, let natsocs feel smart for once. Wouldn't it mean that all those gotcha pics they saved have gone to waste otherwise, right?

>>601940

who mentioned natsocs? can you read? i haven't seen you make a single intelligent post russianproxyfag

>>601941

Natsocs and comies are the only ones who are permanently butthurt about libertarians. I might have mistaken, but only in the butthurt group choice.

If you was capable of reading yourself, you'd not be such a retard.

>>601944

it's comical reading your posts, to be quite honest. you completely lack self awareness.

>>601944

I don't see how this weird proclamation is an argument, especially regarding hickok45's shitty behavior. You throw around the word libertarian to justify banning people? Get real. Natsocs have thicker skin than "libertarian, compromise with the left, give to the NRA, take money from gun companies for good reviews" hickok45. He basically doxxed a guy for bringing a flag to a rally. What a liberty loving guy, that federal employee. Honestly what purpose does that serve? He's a piece of shit, and a horrible gun advocate. Literally any other gun channel is better than him.

>>601949

Hickok45 is a fuck and NRA shill. Videos seem a bit comfy, though uninformative. If he does band people it just meant he cannot stand what they're doing. All to be said about him, let him do what he's doing.

>Natsocs have thicker skin than "libertarian, compromise with the left, give to the NRA, take money from gun companies for good reviews" hickok45.

natsocs would be the ones who fund the NRA and give it more legislative benefits.

How does a libertarian compromise with the left? If anything i've heard natsocs agreeing with the left on opposing libertarians.

Hickok45 is not a libertarian, just a republicuck, no matter how he calls himself. "Fund lobbyists and liars backing up a big government political party" is the opposite of libertarian. Still, NRA and republicans are the problem, his channel is his channel, he could have just doing videos with shooting silently or having text "support the NRA" in the middle of the screen. No purpose is necessary to post videos with content, it's not the videos that deprive you of your rights after all.

I'm not trying to defend him or anything, his channel has little to offer except funz, but he is not that important for all this attention.

>>601954

Fuck, i'm bad at typing

>If he does ban people it just means

>>601915

>Have a group of people advocate for private recreational nuclear arms.

For your strategy to work, you need a sizable, vocal minority sincerely believing the extremist position. Tons of liberals unironically believe in bongland-tier gun control, but where will you find as many people seriously believing in recreational nukes? Good luck!

>be an inbred redneck LARPer and bring a confederate flag to a 2A rally to give libtards more ammo against gun rights

>get banned from Hickok45's social media because I told called him a jew and told him that he will be first on day of the rope

Fucking boomers! Don't they understand?

>>602322

guess how i know you're californian

>>602322

Like I told your wrinkly quasi-leftist, the absence or presence of a Confederate flag will make absolutely no difference to the people trying to ban guns. They want to ban guns and the Confederate flag both, and they want to kill, censor, or imprison everyone who supports these things. Would I bring that flag? No, and I wouldn't recommend it, but I'm not going to dox someone for bringing to please the left who will never be pleased.

>>602706

>/pol/ack saving homosex porn to own the libs

>>600462

Where does Cokeman fit into all of this?

>>602732

>/leftypol/ still mad about the truth

thanks for saging the thread btw

>>602322

>>602732

Umm sweetie, stay boobooblasted

>>602912

Fun for us. For non gun owning normies perhaps not the greatest spokesperson we could hope for. If he's smart and putting on a good act, he's a bit fun. If he's genuinely that nuts not so much. He might scare potential voters, not the best thing.

>>602917

The thread's shit and Hickok is an out of touch faggot but posting homosex makes you just as bad.

>>602925

>p-please delet this

no matter how hard you cry, the fact still remains that your BO was caught on camera sucking jewish cock

>>602925

>"I'll concede on the obvious if I can get the homosex meme framed the right way so it doesn't look like /leftypol/ is queercity USA and then I'll win this little internet argument"

neck yourself immediately tbh

>>602948

t. boom enabler

>>600755

is that reason for me to dislike him? why souled give 2 shits about the confederate flag, i ain't from the south

>>602917

dude leftypol hates their board owner,

>>602948

whenever i see a back with that shape an urge to bend it backwards to the point of rupture overcomes me.

>>602981

nigger lover

>>602923

>normies

>spokesperson

>>>/reddit/

>>>/suicide/

>>>/cuckchan/

>>601784

You people that want more "diversity" in shooting are just as gay as boomercons who fall all over themselves the second a minority agrees with low taxes. I want less diversity in shooting. The less guns put into the hands of low IQ savages with no impulse control, the better.

>>603115

>if call him /leftypol/ while not even knowing how to type a board name properly then I'll look cool

Thanks for proving the /pol/eddit meme correct once again. You are the cancer killing rightism. Don't you have an anti-gun president to be defending somewhere right now?

>>603120

>rightism

could you make yourself more obvious? I don't like trump at all but the absolute degree of assblastedness he causes you leftyshits is priceless

i like him, I don't really care about his take on bumpstocks or that he asks people in his videos to join the nra

>>602986

It's such an awkward exaggeration. Why would someone purposely make standing uncomfortable for themselves?

>>608969

>bumping the boomer cuck thread

gas yourself

>>608979

>muh boomers

>>>/cuckchan/

>>600432

Hello new fag. Please lurk for 2 years. That's 24 months before posting.

Thanks!

Failure to do this will result in site-wide bans and we may come fuck with you. You didn't think you really anonymous did you?

What is it with boomercons and their cuckery?

>>609008

That's not what he said, though, you underage nigger.

>>609008

There is more difference within racial groups than between racial groups. All racial groups have their retards. If you think whites have somehow avoided this just take a look at a Florida trailer park or Appalachian meth house. Or if you think that white Americans so inbred that they're starting to turn blue isn't white enough we can go to Europe and look at Russia in vid related.

Each person must be evaluated as an individual on their personal abilities. The men who led the Apollo program were white but that doesn't mean that any white man could do what they did, nor does it mean that they were able to accomplish what they did because of their skin color.

People who obsess about race usually have empty lives and little interest in bettering themselves. They either want to leech off of the accomplishments of others through some superficial shared characteristic, or they want to get free shit by guilting innocent people today for what other people did decades or centuries ago.

Stop bitching and whining about how everything in your life sucks because of a global plot by da joos to keep you down and instead get up and do something constructive.

>>609090

>Well fraction of 13% of American Population commits 51% of all murders but you need to stop being racist

<da jooz

Sorry, forgot that jews have IQ in upper 1500's, and deserve to control all media, banking, and politics because they suffered greatly in holocaust© (PBUH)

>>>/suicide/

>>609090

Imagine being this fucking retarded

>>609090

>niggers and spics largely responsible for more crime than whites

>jews are vastly overrepresented in media and politics despite being less than a percentage of the population

>but white retards exist so shut up and stop pointing these things out

Kill yourself

>>609091

>13% of American Population commits 51% of all murders but you need to stop being racist

It's closer the 7% since it's mostly the males that perpetrate violent crimes. But again, that's not due to skin color, it's a behavior that arises from a combination of fatherless homes and communities engulfed in violent tribalism.

Criminal behavior is learned, not genetic. Take away the state support for single mothers, and take away their kids if they cannot take care of them, and the problem will eventually clear up.

>>609094

>jews are vastly overrepresented in media and politics

This is partly due to the higher average IQ. But something else that's often ignored is that in Europe and elsewhere Jews were barred from owning land and certain occupations. They became merchants, bankers, and politicians because they had no other options available.

Again, we're talking about something learned. When Jewish kids are raised by parents who work in a field like finance, those kids are going to learn that profession at an early age, and the parent will probably pick a son to take over when they retire. Passing jobs and businesses from father to son was a common practice.

East Asians are over-represented in the computer science and physics departments at my university but that doesn't mean that they didn't earn their place in those departments.

Answer me this: why are you opposed to evaluating each person as an individual, based on their individual abilities?

>>609096

I judge every individual on their individual basis. But, I also must judge everything on its basis, including aggregates such as communities, cities, neighborhoods, nations, governments, regions, parties, races, ethnicities, cultures, ect. Race exists, so does individual variation. I judge the man by the man, but I also must judge the race by the race.

Crime is largely genetic in theory, crime is also an individual variance because of factors such as impulse control, empathy, individual sense of morality, the man's sense of wither he should do right or wrong. If lack of impulse control and natural aggression can be tied to genetics that go back to race, than yes we can say that criminality has both individual genetic basis as well as racial basis.

I think we can see ready proof in adoptions, we can take damaged kids from bad backgrounds and implant them into a rich and well behaved family that will give them a great upbringing, perhaps the best and ideal upbringing possible, from an extremely early age where the bad actions and culture of the parents CANNOT make any difference or impact of any kind. When these adopted kids end up being losers and criminals, even with the best environment possible, do we make excuses or do we accept the truth? We put bad genes into a good environment and we see failure, and we just can't, or don't want to, accept the truth.

The humanists who believe in ultimate equality between all men eventually begin to make those excuses, "crack baby" or "Freud would have something to say on this matter, being taken away from the birth mother immediately must be the only intelligent and acceptable explanation that won't break my ideology". We fail to notice that man creates his environment and changes it, we would rather defend our own ideology and feelings by claiming man is a helpless victim of the environments he creates.

As for the exceptional in those other races, they should do their duty by improving the environment of their own people and not run away from them and abandon them to go live with another race of people who live better. Does the fact they are abandoning their own to run to another completely different group of people not constitute racism? They hate their own and flee form them and cling to another people, why, because they believe they live better and ARE better?

>>609122

>When these adopted kids end up being losers and criminals, even with the best environment possible

How is adoption a good environment? Most adopted children end up this way, whether because of bad parents, lack of parents or being in a group of those who had these.

>put bad genes into a good environment and we see failure

Data on good genes in the same environment giving good results, without survivorship bias.

You seem to use the word "truth" far too often for someone who makes so much baseless claims.

>>602912

I personally find him unreliable.

>>601775

>most of us acknowledge he's got cucked boomer logic in regards to gun politics

He doesn't, though, he's just a realist who has lived a long time. Long enough to watch all this shit unfold. Long enough to understand that some hardline firebrand for guns is going to inevitably be turned into some "crazy gun nut" and demonized, because the Left controls the narrative.

>>609154

>reading comprehension

>>600432

He's got firearms and white children so good on him but I hope he's got white grandchildren.

>>609167

<Criminal behavior is learned, not genetic

>Post objective stats proving that socioeconomic factors have nothing to do with the crime rate of blacks and it is in fact genetic

<Uhhhhhhh how do I avoid being proven wrong…? Oh right, I can just say he didn't understand me

>>609158

Where is the mud test?

>>609450

t. doesn't know the difference between correlation and causation

>>609476

You're past mental gymnastics, you're straight up denying empirical studies and numbers from the Bureau of Justice. I really think you ought to go back to where you came from, reddit.

>>609483

Fucking retard. You dumb fucking inbred mongoloid.

>Criminal behavior is learned via culture and environment.

<B-but funding schools didn't work, it's muh race, for sure, here is the data that blacks are responsible for crime that supports your argument more than my dumb shit!

>Fucking culture and environment, might as well give brochures in the shop they buy food.

<I-its mental gymnastics, you are just ignoring my statistics, it clearly proves that it's not black culture but the race because blacks are race and blacks do crimes because they are black! G-go to reddit, n-normie!

>>603120

It's not a meme if you're the only retard who uses it.

>>609096

>why are you opposed to evaluating each person as an individual, based on their individual abilities

I can do that for individuals I actually deal with, but applying that same logic to entire populations is pretty obviously beyond imbecilic.

I have met decent Mexicans and a couple of okay blacks, but they don't make up for the bullshit that comes with the rest of them. Especially in the case of spics, many of them outright refuse to speak or even learn English on top of their nigger tier crime rates, and from what I can tell from personal experience it's because they have no interest in assimilating and are only here for the gibs.

People I've met (and judged individually as you're fond of advocating for) who live by your logic are typically the ones who want to open the floodgates because they happen to like Jose the gardener and refuse to think about the fact many of his countrymen that have leapt the border over the years consider gang violence, brutal torture, and murder par for the course in every day life.

I could also ask you why you don't just waltz into a nigger ghetto while wearing fancy clothes and an expensive watch. Surely you could just judge them all individually and avoid being robbed, or maybe you'd do the evil racist bigot thing and say to yourself "this area I'm about to enter is populated by a group known for having a high crime rate, maybe I should go around"?

Also, in regards to jews, they generally have far more concern for their own to the point where giving out positions to blatantly unqualified relatives instead of seeking out someone with the necessary skills isn't an uncommon occurance in their circles at all.

Why would I want someone from a group of people who does that sort of shit representing large chunks of the nation?

Since getting to know a politician on a personal basis is an unrealistic option, I have no choice but to consider where they're from and what group they belong to before I take my chances abd vote for them.

Not to mention jews in media have such a heavy anti-white bias that you could assume any story that's slanted in such a way is written by one and be right the vast majority of the time.

I fail to see how applying your judge by the individual logic would do anything to fix problems that go way beyond individual circumstances.

sage because I don't want to bump twice

>>609486

>, here is the data that blacks are responsible for crime

So you didn't even glace at what I posted, then?

>>609501

It literally says that black demographics are responsible for large amount of crime and funding education did not help it. Do you not get that the exact topic in question is why are they responsible for so saying they are does not do anything to reinforce your position? You were literally the one who responded to a post about why niggers nig by saying they they actually are and now trying to say something about me not reading your shit?

>blacks commit crime therefore inferior genes

<b-but when whites do it they're 100% perfect so uhhhh it's a fluke

The most hilarious thing about /pol/niggers and their falacies is that the inferior genes (if genetics worked this way, which it doesn't) would be the thing causing the crime, and yet somehow in their autism they manage to interpret this backwards. You people do understand you can't make a claim that y directly originates from x without proving a causal link, right? As in, actually providing evidence that shows that possessing x gene phenotypes and expressions, etc necessarily predetermines a criminal personality or behaviour. Pointing at high crime and saying "This means subhuman!" is not only putting the cart before the horse, but it's failing to make your intended point in such a childish way that it's beyond absurd.

Everyone with half a brain hates niggers. Every self-aware person cannot stand to be within five feet of a black nigger, a brown nigger, a white nigger, or even an Asian nigger (so pretty much 90% of China's population). But you're trying so hard to fit in with how much you hate niggers - and with your attempts at categorically declaring who said niggers are, in a way that conveniently shields you from criticism because muh aryan genes (you know Aryans are literally pajeets, right?) - that you're autistically foaming at the mouth and completely lacking logic or coherence.

I hate this faggy scientism bullshit. It makes the subject of racialism, and anyone who believes in it or wants to discuss it, and just plain white people in general look bad. Judging groups as groups is perfectly valid, but when your perception of said groups is lacking in any reasonable basis and built up on false pretenses and self-promoting bias, it just makes you look like someone who's plugging their ears and screaming because they heard something that didn't give them goodfeels.

Also, quit with the multiple e-celeb threads and off topic bumping. Christ.

>>609507

Ah, so you only read two of them?

>>609509

>Genetic distance and averages don't exist because uhhh outliers

Your brain on reddit

>>609512

>so you only read

Are you capable on comprehension of only one post at a time? I addressed other points in previous ones, do you really need to be pointed at your pitiful bait so many times?

>>Genetic distance and averages don't exist because uhhh outliers

Genetic differences are important, but they are responsible for only a fracture of the final result. Factors like environment and and culture play greater role, which is evident by the development of modern civilization, development of social skills and thinking during childhood and you as the prime example of being an even more worthless sack of human faggot than an average nigger.

>>609522

"You're worthless." says the VPN-hopping nigger apologist. "It's all socioeconomic factors." He pauses, and feigns ignorance. "What do you mean, that regardless of situation they always have a lower IQ? It's all socioeconomic factors. Just believe me. Those studies don't exist, I'm telling you, culture and such play a bigger part. Because I say so. Those studies don't exist."

>>609527

>what is dynamic IP

>"It's all socioeconomic factors."

<Genetic differences are important, but they are responsible for only a fracture of the final result.

>What do you mean, that regardless of situation they always have a lower IQ

Literally not true, there are niggers with more and less than average IQ, just like any other race, they just have less in general. it does not mean that you are any better just because you say you're white.

>Those studies don't exist, I'm telling you, culture and such play a bigger part.

<What is bell curve

This is your brain on /pol/.

>>609529

This is your brain on 100 years of communism.

>>609529

>it does not mean that you are any better just because you say you're white.

It says that there's a 50% chance to be better than 80% of Blacks because you are White.

>>609530

This is fair, though low IQ leads to poverty and its culture as well, this perpetuates the amount of crime, which is why even low IQ whites still do less crimes.

>>609532

Don't start on that, communism played a major role in turning my country into a 3rd world shithole and its people into obedient uncultured but violent and aggressive niggers.

>>609533

This still is only the chance, there is a possibility of a certain white to have less IQ than a certain nigger, which is the opposite of what that retard said. That is, not taking culture into account. With it, this possibility is even smaller, though exceptions will always emerge. I'd still take a lot more time for me to trust a nigger or even respect him than it would for a white but i'm not going to respect a white just because of that.

>>609534

>Don't start on that, communism played a major role in turning my country into a 3rd world shithole and its people into obedient uncultured but violent and aggressive niggers.

I will only let that pass because I'm among the last people in position to banter over turkic admixture.

>>609537

>This still is only the chance, there is a possibility of a certain white to have less IQ than a certain nigger, which is the opposite of what that retard said.

Yeah but according to your blank slate theory even a gifted three-digits IQ nigger is more likely to be lowlife thug than the most inbred redneck solely on the ground of being brought up among median hoodrat niggers. Only retards talk in absolutes but it takes a special breed of retard to deny merit in generalizations.

>>609538

>Yeah but according to your blank slate theory even a gifted three-digits IQ nigger is more likely to be lowlife thug than the most inbred redneck solely on the ground of being brought up among median hoodrat niggers.

I'm not sure about precise chances, but even 120IQ meganigger might go with a company of other niggers and, say, rob a house and end in prison and end up with their culture as well, and it'd be hard for him to escape their company living in a black neighborhood, having black relatives and their friends and living in conditions where close interpersonal relationships are a norm. Redneck as well might not be able to get proper education and end up just going with the flow. Today the information is abundant because of the internet so it only takes personal effort to improve, while before that you didn't really just stumble upon some information that could help you find yourself/understand your imperfect condition/etc, what certainly didn't help.

>Only retards talk in absolutes but it takes a special breed of retard to deny merit in generalizations.

They are useful. i even gave a personal example in previous post, i'm not trying to deny that. I just do not like for the exceptions to suffer because of the group influence of which they are trying to escape, especially because it takes more effort for them to do that. prejudices, social pressure, conformism, learning new and alien cultures all come on top of just learning and improving.

>>609529

You're so desperate to seem like you have an argument that you misconstrue everything I have said previous to the post you are responding to to build your own goalpost. No shit that not literally every single nigger is lower IQ than every single white. As I said, in the post before. It's all averages. The average nigger has a far lower IQ than the average white. My argument is that even given the same opportunities and education, this IQ gap persists, which extends to crime. Dynamics IQs do not switch countries.

>>609550

>Dynamics IQs

Dynamic IPs

>>609550

>No shit that not literally every single nigger is lower IQ than every single white.

<"What do you mean, that regardless of situation they always have a lower IQ?

Your words, not mine. If you did not meat it that way that would change things.

>he average nigger has a far lower IQ than the average white.

Actually, how big is the gap? IIRC average nigger has 80IQ, while white has 100, is that so?

>My argument is that even given the same opportunities and education, this IQ gap persists, which extends to crime.

I agree, even though averages do not really predict results for single causes, they ignore lesser factors to aid universality.

>Dynamic IPs

I only posted here under this flag, there was also American anon posting here, he might as well be the person who posted earlier and you first replied to.

>>609553

>Actually, how big is the gap? IIRC average nigger has 80IQ, while white has 100, is that so?

The 80IQ figure is a little high as the American blacks it is based off are mixed with Europeans. Blacks in Africa tend to be around 70.

>>600523

>not even advocating for a mandatory 4 year lurk period.

It's like you enjoy the company of newfags.

>>609562

>Ir*sh

>Human

>ITT: another 'nu/pol/ pretends to care about guns while actually being anti-human rights' episode

>>609617

(((human-right)))

Funny how human right organizations never care about rights of actual humans.

>>609619

>rights are Jewish

Fucking based! I'll go ahead and write off all of my personal freedoms completely and just live in a hamster wheel now. Thank you for your valuable input, Spergkraut.

>>609617

Human rights are a social construct. Whatever rights you have come out the barrel of a gun.

>>609621

Rights aren't jewish, but human right niggers are trash.

>>600432

He's o.k. for introducing 8-12 year old kids to firearms and safe handling of weapons. Laid back but pretty corporate. A retired middle school math teacher I think. Although the old boomer faggot is a fucking crack shot. Hitting the gong at 100 yards with a S&W Model 36 was pretty impressive.

>>600432

You can learn a lot about gun safety from him.

>>609159

>I'm a defeatist faggot

then go eat a bullet