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There's no discharge in the war!

File: f0a57734addd148⋯.jpeg (24.33 KB, 400x216, 50:27, 5BC7E2DA-2B44-4E72-A748-D….jpeg)

c9b2b6 No.543400

Angled foregrip decades before magpul

bec15d No.543401

File: 85a157ef40dc7a9⋯.png (11.98 MB, 4032x3024, 4:3, ClipboardImage.png)

Folding charging handle


244ef8 No.543506

File: 1ab743e265881e9⋯.jpg (362.85 KB, 2876x952, 719:238, shite.jpg)

Standard issue magnification optics.


5ed14e No.543508

File: 917d3fa30f22b89⋯.jpg (39.5 KB, 527x294, 527:294, grip-safety.JPG)

Grip safety


244ef8 No.543514

File: b1bde3e0f573608⋯.jpg (172.43 KB, 1400x832, 175:104, shite.jpg)

Quick change barrel


bec15d No.543516

File: 755f6a68add69a3⋯.png (2.88 MB, 2378x941, 2378:941, ClipboardImage.png)

Staggered feed magazines in an SMG

No idea if they were the first, but it's the first I know of in a somewhat major design


244ef8 No.543523

I tried to figure out what gun was the first to employ a folding stock, but I couldn'T find anything so far.

Seriously, who invented the folding/collapsing stock?


0af556 No.543525

File: 6210ebdf9569f23⋯.jpg (19.66 KB, 800x328, 100:41, Elisha Collier - flintlock….jpg)

>firing more than one shot without needing to reload or carry multiple barrels.


bec15d No.543534

File: 909c53f67399c76⋯.png (144.39 KB, 1200x426, 200:71, ClipboardImage.png)

>>543523

Marble Arms game getter 1908 I think


244ef8 No.543550

>>543534

Interesting. All I found a US patent dating to the sixties for attaching a side folding stock .

I have always been a friend of simple designs, and this gun would seem like an ideal weapon to take with you on long exoeditions. It could fit into a holster, be extremely light weight and offer you to pick which ammunition to use in certain circumstances. Using the .22 to hunt small game, and a shot round for delf defense/large game/birds.

On top of that it looks very gentlemanly.

A good find, Ahmed.


2c9aaf No.543559

>>543514

Didn't the Bren have that too?


bec15d No.543562

File: 0be1ab6353ef9b7⋯.png (232.6 KB, 576x370, 288:185, ClipboardImage.png)

>>543550

Marble had a patent for folding stocks in 1909

http://www.google.com.af/patents/US961511

>>543559

The MG-34 came first, the ZB-26 had one earlier than both though


244ef8 No.545132

File: aa60b5aab02ea85⋯.jpg (387.05 KB, 1024x643, 1024:643, Red_army_soldiers,_end_of_….jpg)

I like this thread, so let me break out the BIG GUYNS to save it.

I present to you, the Maxim Gun, because

>A Mutiny resulted.

>I never shall forget the way

>That Blood upon this awful day

>Preserved us all from death.

>He stood upon a little mound,

>Cast his lethargic eyes around,

>And said beneath his breath :

>Whatever happens we have got

>The Maxim Gun, and they have not.

>He marked them in their rude advance,

>He hushed their rebel cheers ;

>With one extremely vulgar glance

>He broke the Mutineers.

>(I have a picture in my book

>Of how he quelled them with a look.)

>We shot and hanged a few, and then

>The rest became devoted men.

-Joseph Hilaire Pierre René Belloc (The Modern Traveler 1898)

It was the first ever recoil operated machine gun, a design so timeless and effective that it was used from 1883 until the '60s. Chambered in many different calibers throughout the ages, the actual mechanism is simple, the recoil pushes back the breech, which then is guided downwards, where it picks up the next cartridge and moved back into fireing position. All this comes in a water cooled package of roughly 500rpm, available in most calibers eventually. A weapon so effective so lacking in competition, that even the German Army, which was probably on the edge of weapons development in early WWI adopted it, or rather ripped it off.


bab0f4 No.545148

>>543508

That was never good.


b4d434 No.545163

File: 2449f795da3009f⋯.jpg (117.03 KB, 725x544, 725:544, Colt_1903_right_side.jpg)

bullpup design


deba1f No.545165

>>545163

huehue


563035 No.545174

File: 4cb4d775507362a⋯.png (55.48 KB, 562x137, 562:137, ClipboardImage.png)

>>545163

>1903

Whatever you say whippersnapper


737079 No.545187

>>545163

wrong picture?


7a4d4f No.545200

>>543508

Grip safeties are cancer.


68455f No.545214

>>543508

It's only ahead of its time if it preluded a much greater adoption of a useful feature in the future.


06119d No.545250

File: f8b2a5418799b61⋯.jpg (36.89 KB, 997x600, 997:600, matchlock_pistol1.jpg)

caseless ammunition


6dec3f No.545255

File: c30c389b9372816⋯.jpg (359.7 KB, 1024x683, 1024:683, 1513584062995.jpg)

Teleportation devices.


244ef8 No.545492

File: 548ce54d0fca9ee⋯.jpeg (120.44 KB, 1024x683, 1024:683, serveimage1.jpeg)

G36

First rifle adopted into service with a pencil barrel.

Pencil barrels are a great way to reduce weight and allow the soldier to carry more ammo. If the shooter doesn't just keep dumping magazines there won't be a noticeable loss in accuracy, or rather any loss in accuracy that is not completely overshadowed by the stress on the shooter of being in a prolonged engagement.

Also the first service rifle to come with integrated dual optics. Changable magnification may be neat, but you go ahead and try to outfit an entire army with 500+ USDollaroos optics. The x4 magnification of the G36 is great for identification, while the red dot is used for most situations.

The A2 version has replaced the old red dot with a newer one, that is larger and allows easier acquisition. It's great.

>>545255

Elaborate please.


0e7051 No.545496

>>543400

Hey Sadam is alive!


593227 No.545499

File: 768ba798625716b⋯.jpg (194.48 KB, 1023x682, 3:2, blood_of_my_enemies.jpg)

>>545492

>reduced weight and more ammo

Too bad that most 5.56 rifles already overheat if you shoot through all the allocated ammo in a single firefight. If you make the barrel thinner then the problem is even greater, and adding more ammo is just adding fuel to the fire. Not to mention that rifles are still just sticks that spew bullets, and all the mechanical devices are only there to make it easier to use. The barrel is the last part you should look at if you want to make a compromise in a rifle.


b45ac9 No.545504

File: 8511de5cd1eb97c⋯.jpg (52.53 KB, 593x279, 593:279, 20180125_011207.jpg)

Jamming in mid combat


563035 No.545529

File: 5fd03a12cc62383⋯.png (96.36 KB, 752x210, 376:105, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 9d28a6eab8b2e9f⋯.png (3.38 MB, 4595x2325, 919:465, ClipboardImage.png)

>>545492

>first rifle adopted into service with a pencil barrel.

Mr Colt would like a word

>changable magnification may be neat, but you go ahead and try to outfit an entire army with 500+ USDollaroos optics

>he didn't equip his entire army with a 1-4x variable scope AND a backup red dot


5bc933 No.545534

>>545529

That grenade launcher selector looks vaguely germanic


563035 No.545543

>>545534

It's an AG36, HK's grenade launcher that was originally designed for the G36


eab57e No.545553

>>545534

yeah its ugly as fuck


68455f No.545557

>>545499

Except with modern metallurgy, the accuracy reduction from pencil barrels is pretty much nonexistent. When the barrel first starts to heat up it loses accuracy because it warps a bit along un-relieved stress points in the metal. Quality modern barrels go through a rigorous stress-relief process that eliminates almost all of this effect.


593227 No.545564

File: a7fc983f56b7238⋯.pdf (6.06 MB, General Purpose Cartridge:….pdf)

File: 94ea73ef57da304⋯.webm (4.26 MB, 630x360, 7:4, ak_bumpfire1.webm)

File: ad3bffca846c5f3⋯.webm (3.21 MB, 630x360, 7:4, ak_bumpfire2.webm)

File: 59b2295765b52ba⋯.webm (507.38 KB, 630x360, 7:4, ak_bumpfire3.webm)

>>545557

Expect that reduced accuracy is hardly the greatest problem with an overheated rifle. Just watch these ancient webms to see what I mean.


ed021f No.545567

How does overheating impacts accuracy? Does the barrel expands so much that the bullet can't engage bore rifling?


563035 No.545579

>>545567

I know that happens a little bit with muzzleloaders, but I doubt it effects modern rifles that much

The main reason is simply the metal losing strengths such as yield strength and stiffness when it gets hot and warping, and due to the barrel being continually shot and heated, the warped position of the muzzle and the barrel in general won't be consistent between each shot, nor will it be consistent with the sights any more.


68455f No.545592

>>545564

True, but a thicker barrel will only help a little with this problem. Sure you have more metal to absorb the thermal energy, but that shit's going to get hot anyway if you're in a situation where you're dumping your mags like crazy. You just need better handguards in those situations.


4791d0 No.545624

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>545499

It's not as big of an issue anymore and probably worth doing if cutting weight is your main goal.


ed021f No.545625

>>545592

If you're dumping your mags, you're wasting ammo for no good reason. It's because you're shooting in general direction of the enemy and hope that it does anything, in other words, you spray and pray. Now I'm not suggesting that you should never fire the rifle unless you have an enemy in sights (which would be a good strategy of and in itself), I'm saying that shooting thin air without even attempting to suppress let alone actually hit the enemy is a complete and total waste of time and ammo and you shouldn't do that.


1d4208 No.545636

>>545625

Agree. And do it in African style as well, by setting the sights to the highest number, for maximum power.


68455f No.545637

>>545625

I agree. I'm not arguing that you should magdump, I was just saying that the rifle having a pencil barrel doesn't diminish from its capability of magdumping, even if there's no good reason to do it.


dd122f No.545651

File: 343d8dbf38e6572⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 125.95 KB, 900x600, 3:2, high-powered browning weap….jpg)

it's got a thousand round clip, kills in one hit, has sub MoA accuracy, is better than the M16, doesn't need to be reloaded, has unlimited ammo, is made out of the same steel alloys as the goddamn Roscosmos State Corporation spaceship, is the gold standard of gorilla warfare, and has heat seeking bullets that home in on headshots so you don't even need to aim it. it's a hundred and six years more advanced than anything we have today.


97a433 No.545653

File: d0b4e13937bf928⋯.png (506.92 KB, 960x584, 120:73, 1433277099277.png)

>>545651

amen god bles


3c17f3 No.545665

File: bd9b53706cbe26d⋯.jpg (42.91 KB, 780x467, 780:467, FUG.jpg)


69f6c8 No.545907

File: 63f8c72734dfce6⋯.jpg (60.61 KB, 660x330, 2:1, Vorpal-SOLO-660x330.jpg)

File: 8e1914f77882108⋯.jpg (74.2 KB, 634x261, 634:261, Vorpal-SOLO-angled-look.jpg)

File: a3008ba82c97dce⋯.jpg (43.89 KB, 660x156, 55:13, Vorpal-SOLO-diverter.jpg)

Are conical flash hiders the future?


244ef8 No.545909

File: 35e3175804b0db7⋯.jpeg (376.38 KB, 1000x581, 1000:581, serveimage1.jpeg)

>>545907

>flashhiders

>not recoil increasers

I beg to differ


78f2be No.546030

>>545907

>hiding flash like a pussy


3d4c94 No.546586

>>546030

>not using flash magnifiers


9b9f6e No.546957

File: e9cecca250707b3⋯.jpeg (100.07 KB, 499x620, 499:620, AB8D49CA-C649-4099-8CD0-4….jpeg)

>combined two weapons into one, allowing a solider to have both a sidearm and a small explosive in one

I think it’ll be another 10 years, at least, before this feature is widely used.


4d6d2d No.546958

>>546957

Was that image supoosed to be the U-Z-I-tactical-floorsweep-device?


20babb No.546959

>>546958

If by that you meant a glocknade, yes, if not I don’t know the meme you are referring to.


737079 No.547117

>>546958

whats that about? does the kosher quality brick shear sears and go off running?


722662 No.547141

>>547117

>>546959

Hollywood movies where a small smg falls and just keeps firing fullauto because gravity magically holds triggers down.

>>546957

They already have sigs that can be thrown and be used as a distraction device.

>>546030

Being a blind Californian

>>546586

apparently my current flash magnifier a J-Comp hides flash a tiny bit so now I have to swap to something legal I figure I'll just get something that spits flames like crazy. Does anybody know what shits out the most flame in the hopes I may purposefully accidentally burn my state down?


3d4c94 No.547157

>Hollywood movies where a small smg falls and just keeps firing fullauto because gravity magically holds triggers down.

Oh, I don’t really watch movies anymore and can’t think of one I’ve seen where that happens. I do remember one movie where some bitch is throwing grenades out of a car and after pulling the pin on one she drops it into the box of grenades and takes like 30 seconds to find the one without the spoon and luckily the fuse goes off just as she throws it out the window. Or from R.E.D. I think he throws a bunch of 9mm on a pan on the stove and the bullets actually shoot. Which makes gun designers look pretty dumb for adding several inches of barrels if the bullets will shoot without them. is it my autism that makes me reee every time a movie fucks up simple gun things, or does everyone do that?

>apparently my current flash magnifier a J-Comp hides flash a tiny bit so now I have to swap to something legal I figure I'll just get something that spits flames like crazy. Does anybody know what shits out the most flame in the hopes I may purposefully accidentally burn my state down?

I like to take a steel cone and put a rough disk on my grinder and quickly run it over the inside a few times and then submerge the cone in gas for a bit and then try to fill all the deep scratches I made with the grinder with powdered aluminum. Once the gases and the burning powder hit my custom muzzle it increases flash by about 350%


88f599 No.547162

File: dd8bfe7069c17c2⋯.jpeg (23.2 KB, 400x533, 400:533, a4bdc051410e3f996d7fafbba….jpeg)

>>545492

500 US is a pretty fuggen cheap scope tbqhwy fam


53dfa4 No.547166

>>547157

> Or from R.E.D. I think he throws a bunch of 9mm on a pan on the stove and the bullets actually shoot.

Shoot Em Up has a scene where the main character puts bullets between his fingers and puts his hand in a fire, cooking off the bullets and shooting them.


20babb No.547266

>>547166

That reminds me of Jojo’s bizarre adventure part 4 where Josuke uses his stand to shoot a rat over 100 meters away by holding the cartridge in his hand and flicking the primer.


024a75 No.547616

File: 17b72ebd12cbd97⋯.jpg (33.37 KB, 850x151, 850:151, FN_FAL_Type_C.jpg)

File: d3bfe23ee26c7c3⋯.jpeg (286.3 KB, 1999x1311, 1999:1311, FN_FAL_Type_C_Bayonet_Bra….jpeg)

>>545907

Something crossed my mind: that Vorpal Solo has a diverter that further reduces flash, and it reminds me of a socket bayonet. So, could you make a socket bayonet that works as a diverter just fine, or would the extra weight of the blade decrease accuracy to such a degree that it would be a problem? If I understand correctly you'd use the diverter when the enemy is closer to you and reduced flash is more important than reduced recoil.


9d9035 No.548606

File: 8491f13d9ffb579⋯.jpg (20.54 KB, 900x596, 225:149, smith-and-wesson-model-194….jpg)

File: 91a919f38ac3a3d⋯.jpg (100.88 KB, 1200x800, 3:2, kel-tec-rdb.jpg)

The S&W Model 40 was a piece of shit, but it had downward ejection. Which reminds me something interesting: I can't find definitive information about the Kel-Tec RDB's ejection system being patented or not. If I understand correctly it's quite simple, the bolt just moves behing the magwell and then ejects downward, same system the M40 used. Is it possible that the concept of the RDB can't be patented, only the exact design of the ejector and the bolt face?


e84c99 No.548622

>>548606

If it's the same mechanism as the Model 40, there's no way that Kel-Tec could've patented it, since there's a clear example of prior art. They could probably patent some aspects of the design, but if you want to replicate their ejection system, you can just do exactly what they did and adapt the Model 40's system. The patents for that would've expired a long time ago now.

t. not a patent lawyer


aa775c No.548650

File: 4d378d60f002ff4⋯.png (201.77 KB, 280x300, 14:15, end me.png)




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