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There's no discharge in the war!

File: 084cb4068f505a3⋯.png (18.27 KB, 200x200, 1:1, US_Army_Air_Corps_Hap_Arno….png)

654d3d No.540476

Consider that the USAF has made it known it has no desire to perform roles such as CAS and wants to scrap aircraft like the A-10 with no replacement should the USAAF return as an organization responsible directly for providing support to ground troops?

cbb3f5 No.540479

File: c444404a551e3e4⋯.jpg (39.63 KB, 577x577, 1:1, TypicalBurgerPilot.jpg)

>Split USAF into two parts

>Heavily divide the funding

I can see Generals sweating already.


b8af6a No.540480

yes. blitzfighter was a very good design and usaf is just a money sink


4f2e44 No.540487

>>540479

>>540476

The Air Force just needs to be reintegrated into the Army. It could be a department of the Army in the same way the Marines are of the Navy. Then, the Air Force could just be the pilots, maintenance, and operations with the Army doing all the logistics/support bullshit.


b8af6a No.540488

>>540487

burgers should dissolve army, navy and airforce and just stick to their god forsaken island tbh


654d3d No.540489

>>540487

>Marines are of the Navy

Don't let the spics hear that.

>>540488

>Poland can't into geography

Why am I not surprised?


b8af6a No.540490

>>540489

a VERY big island, in a way. separated by anything important by oceans


654d3d No.540492

>>540490

Same way Poland is separated by anything important by kurwas?


c187a6 No.540493

You mean the USAAC


b8af6a No.540494

>>540493

no, you suck


c187a6 No.540496

>>540494

Well of course i suck. I wore the uniform only difference is I get to set my own rates now for the type of sucking I do instead of the green weeny setting the rates for the type of sucking I do


d6abb9 No.540502


fc41e5 No.540516

File: 450d3f4569d38d5⋯.png (21.4 KB, 160x160, 1:1, frog-face_1f438.png)

>>540488

what the fuck


bca4bd No.540524

>>540488

>their god forsaken island tbh

How about you stay in your country sized brothel and leave our English brethern alone?


bca4bd No.540525

>>540524

Fucking pictures don't attach anymore. My post doesn't make sense now. Testing with waifu pic.


a19f8f No.540526

>>540524

>>540516

>>540502

>>540494

>Australia not calling anyone that doesn't have to watch out for drop bears a cunt or 56%

>Texas comes back from the dead

>Italy thinks he's a spic

>Poland being aggressive and is still able to type coherent sentences so not drunk

OP. Your shit thread brought the worst out of /k/


eee9bf No.540531

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

This thread sucks so here's some A-10 footage.


1e1349 No.540541

File: b1e01981931488a⋯.jpg (444.11 KB, 1146x1802, 573:901, IdZDsqS.jpg)

>>540488

>US

>Island

What did he mean by this?


d272d2 No.540543

File: 301c6ed05885b2c⋯.jpg (267.44 KB, 1200x715, 240:143, world-map.jpg)

File: c4f93d9db0c6943⋯.jpg (62.23 KB, 720x561, 240:187, typicalkurwa.jpg)

>>540489

>>540541

He's polish, so forgive him for not being able to read normal maps.


bca4bd No.540546

>>540543

Yeah, FAS really fucks with your brain. Especially when you were a slavnigger to begin with.


e6fe56 No.540561

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


ee76f7 No.540571

a men feels poetic once and this happens

>>540543

it should be smaller because of panama channel

t.kurwa


54a3a2 No.540573

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>540476

>his cunttree does not have an AAF


54a3a2 No.540574

>>540541

>>540543

>implying Canada and Central America are independent countries and not Real America's containment areas for beaners and pinko faggots LARPing as limeys


aa4090 No.540609

It cant due to key west, it would be easier to delete a branch than do that.

I think army should be merged with an enlarged marine force, that would have two dozen more LHD carriers, a hundred more cargo ships, its own aircraft and air defense.

Air force should be limited to nuclear bombing, and establishing a suborbital and low orbit presence.

National guard should be in charge of Patriot and THAAD batteries, operate a few wings of mach 3 interceptors, as well as operate tens of thousands of blitzfighters.

Navy keeps its current job with the only modification being the scrapping of some cruisers and subs in exchange for a capable frigate force.


000000 No.540624

>>540476

The question is will the Army do any better? The USMC had its own aircraft for CAS to cover the lack of artillery and at present the high cost of F-35B (and MV-22 and CH-53) means that Air Wing, by taking up all the procurement budget, is hurting the very ground element it is supposed to help.

The Ukrainian conflict has given us a glimpse of future warfare and it is dominated by artillery. (http://weaponsman.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/rus-ukr-lessons-draft.pdf). More than an airforce the US Army needs more long ranged truck mounted SPGs and MRLs and integration of UAVs (both ISR and loitering munition type) at battery level.

Also no aircraft including the A-10 can perform CAS in future conflicts in face of threats such as Sosna:

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=m6Zc2ogj3tY

https:// warontherocks.com/2016/06/the-myth-of-high-threat-close-air-support/

https://archive.fo/kL6Fd


b739bf No.540631

>>540479

USAF AND USMC should both be disbanded for wasting everyone's time. That being said, the USAF is already fighting with the Navy since the Navy has the second largest number of military aircraft in the world after the chairforce. Honestly letting enlistment fly planes again instead of restricting it to officers would fix so many issues the chairforce has right now.


b739bf No.540632

File: 940e950d5d6770b⋯.png (291.45 KB, 822x605, 822:605, d0acf6ca85f39efcc508693fdd….png)

>>540631

>mfw even my phone autocorrected airforce to chairforce


a09ca8 No.540633

>>540574

then they're really badly administrated containment areas


d435c9 No.540635

>>540633

Sure, but nobody's ever said burgers were competent, have they? They're too corrupt and lazy to make a functional prison system, let alone maintain an intercontinental quarantine. You should just be thankful they've seen fit to take you under their sweaty, flabby and smothering arm.


467974 No.540640

>>540635

In our defense if not for our incredibly incompetent government we'd probably be in the same boat as the rest of the world in terms of rights so I am thankful for a legislature that by design can't legislate their way out of a wet paper bag.


d435c9 No.540641

File: 2569f28b8305c4a⋯.jpg (103.04 KB, 640x960, 2:3, Muh Muskets Muh Militia Mu….jpg)

>>540640

I think the credit for that mostly goes to the citizenry for clinging so tightly to the constitution and bill of rights. The average person might not understand what's actually written in them, but those semi-religious documents sure do motivate the kind of vitriol that leaves cities on fire, heads on spikes and armies in flight. I honestly wish we had a proper constitution, or at the very least, the gun community in Australia wasn't a pack of cucked fudds.


753daf No.540659

>>540631

>Honestly letting enlistment fly planes again instead of restricting it to officers would fix so many issues the chairforce has right now.

Could you elaborate on this for someone who's clueless about the issue? Are airforce officers not aggressive enough, or too high and mighty to help the ground pounders? Or would the airforce be able to focus on a much higher number of slightly less advanced (and far less costly) planes if they weren't losing officers every time on gets shot down?


b60f61 No.540692

>>540543

Does that mean that all of Eurasia & Africa are one island as well?


ee76f7 No.540708

>>540692

not since suez, they are two separate (big) islands now


54a3a2 No.540713


54a3a2 No.540716

>>540692

It's a harder claim since Eurasia aside of being the largest landmass in the world it also incorporates three distinct continental plates.


1e1349 No.540742

>>540635

To be fair on the Burgers last time we tried to create a functional prison system we ended up giving the world Australia.


d435c9 No.540744

>>540742

Proving that the eternal Anglo should never try to quarantine their worst scum in an isolated and inhospitable landmass. You fucked up in the 1700s and have Australia as a consequence of your actions. As usual, America didn't learn from your example and created the leaf menace.


772f99 No.540774

File: 307aaed364b5aa1⋯.mp4 (8.93 MB, 848x480, 53:30, shuma_OP.mp4)

>>540659

>Please elaborate

Sure.

Pretty much the issue is that you have to be an officer to pilot aircraft in the USAF. To become an officer you have to go through a four year university (though in most cases with ROTC classes if you plan to go the proper route, you're looking at five years of schooling unless you get a degree in humanities), but in reality if you want to be a pilot, while it's not required, you need to have an aviation-focused degree. Then after you have your degree and become an officer, you have to spend an entire year training to get certified as a pilot for the Airforce, during which time your contract to the USAF is not officially in effect, so you're in a sort of "limbo" where the Chairforce is paying you, but you're not eliminating time on your contract. At this point you're ~23-26 years old and you're officially a pilot, but you have to serve a 10 year active duty contract with the USAF. This means you're in your mid to late 30s by the time you get out, but then the USAF's best and brightest (lol) got the smart idea to implement stop loss, because, y'know people want to be damn near 40 when they get out of the USAF. They've been forcefully extending pilot's contracts between 3-5 years extra, and if you're a pilot, it's pretty much a guarantee since 2016 that you will get stop-loss. Legally, commercial pilots are required by law to retire by age 60 (now 65 I think), so you've effectively got about 20 years of commercial piloting left in you to save up a retirement after you get out of the USAF (because the USAF is damn well not gonna keep you on for your 20 years to get military retirement). Keep in mind that the higher-end pay for Airforce pilots is ~$107,000/year (because anything the military claims is "average" is really the high-end with bonuses thrown in) whereas a commercial jet pilot starts around $100,000, but you get guaranteed raises every year, and you get bonuses for working overtime so in reality, most commercial jet pilots bring in closer to $200,000/year. Also keep in mind commercial pilots get a LOT more down time because they aren't overworked, and they get other benefits.

This leads to a lot of people not wanting to be pilots. The Air Force was short 1,500 pilots as of this summer because it's now cheaper to privately obtain your commercial jet pilot license than to go the Air Force route. So now you've got an extreme shortage of pilots, all of them are officers, and no one wants to be a pilot. If they try to overwork their current pilots more than they already do, they get sued by said officers (and the officers usually win the cases). If the USAF allowed enlistees to fly they would…

1) Solve the current issue of limited flyers

2) Be able to overwork them as much as they want because enlistees are generally too stupid to sue the military unless the military clearly violated protocols (and even then it's usually unsuccessful).

3) Can order pilots into danger zones and force them to comply with said orders.

4) Unintentionally lower the salary of commercial jet pilots when the market is flooded with former enlistees in 6-10 years. We all know there'd be a military coup if they ever did this though.


66f300 No.540817

I would phase out the marines as a separate entity,and down grade their role to the equivalent of paratroopers

The airforce needs an overhaul. we're using bombers designed in the 50s,built in the 70s,and will continue to use them until 2050s. Yet the airforce wasn't happy with the f22s.


772f99 No.540822

File: 6b8997fe51150e1⋯.jpg (329.48 KB, 1350x895, 270:179, Mk-48-ADCAP-009.jpg)

>>540817

If only you knew, anon… Navy is still using and recommissioning pic related even though virtually every electrical warehouse in the world has been scrounged for parts, and refuses to upgrade to a fucking surface mount torpedo that could be built in a day instead of this stupid thru-hole shit that takes weeks to build a single subsystem for it. This shit should have been decommissioned in the 80s, it WAS decommissioned for being a massive piece of shit in the 90s, and they can't seem to get their heads out of their ass for five seconds to realize each one of these fuckers is sinking millions of dollars that could be used for building bigger, cooler weapons.


67da52 No.540840

>>540774

>Drastically increase amount of pilots in Chairforce

>Drastically reduce pay and training time

>Get rid of most expensive jets, replace entire F-35 program with 300k MiG-21's

>Literally defeat enemies by blotting out the sun


54a3a2 No.540843

>>540822

>>540817

Dropping the ASF-14 was a mistake.


1e1349 No.540850

>>540744

But that wasn't the fault of the Burgers. That was the French

And us again


058c55 No.540858

>>540633

>Flag of Guateworse

Do VPNs have a sense of irony?


aa4090 No.540941

>>540631

USAF, USN, and the Army are factually useless. Their purpose is to defend Israel and Euros.

The marines alone perform air, land and water expeditionary combat enough for USA itself. Coast guard and National guard is good enough to prevent any invasion of USA.

>>540641

Its both.


f57187 No.541022

>>540822

I realize this is getting miles off target, but why didn't we finish developing supercav torpedoes? The Russians have had them since the 70s. Regardless of the tech that would go into them, they seem to be something of a bitch to avoid, if my thinking is right.


3d9c71 No.541028

>>540822

Torpedoes are weird, the UK used a Mark VIII torpedo (entered service 1927) to sink the Belegrano in 1982.


eee9bf No.541030

>>541022

My understanding is that it's hard to make one with decent guidance and steering due to how they work, so if you aren't using them for nuclear delivery against carrier groups they aren't worth much yet.


1e1349 No.541037

>>541028

Only ones we know that would work.




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