/k/ - Weapons

Because the Stoner design is still the best of the 20th and 21st centuries.

Also

>muh bullpen

Isn't an argument

Bureaucratic inertia. People are beginning to realize its shit, which is why cartridges like .300BLK are in vogue and 7.62x51 is coming back.

Bullpups are for literal faggots, rifles with barrels under 18" are for literal faggots.

>>523186

>not using a bullpup with a 30" barrel

>>523178

Fuck off bong twat, go suck Muhammad's cock

>>523201

I thought they used weaponized shiposting?

>>523201

Because SASR are optimised for CQC and the Austeyr doesn't have a picatinny rail max tacticool accessories

>>523208

>>523202

Take your autistic shitposting back to cuckchan you useless niggers. Neither of you are white anyway.

the "too short" problem was already solved with faster burn and heavier bullet, decades ago.

>>523209

also the manual of arms and balance is better.

Because they're fucking retarded.

>canada copy M4

>soldiers got the first batch

>nooope

>production run stopped

>stocks given to police

Our rifles are still long barrel, compromise is for niggers.

>>523174

I heard on here (I think) a 6.5mm might be as good out of a 10 inch barrel as a 5.56 out of a 20 inch. .300blk is basically 7.62x39 that fits in an AR with 1 less part swap, same ballistics at 100m.

>>523223

It was that .300blk does exceptionally well out of a short barrel. An NZ anon had a real neato chart I can't find now.

>>523213

Then how come 5.56 doesn't reliably fragment out of an M4 past a few hundred yards and the US army decided to replace it with a .308 battle rifle?

>>523226

>Britan is near 90% white and they're objectively far gayer than us at 60%.

The fag population of the US is 3.8%, whereas the fag population of Bongistan is 1.2%.

>>523233

>We're not pozzed as you

>Goes to jail for posting on 8gag

Britbongistan at just 90% lmao

Something is wrong with the white britbongistan Gene.

>>523233

It's probably that low because Muhammad's dick your women are sucking is working overtime on the rooftops lmao britbongistan

>>523233

>Then how come I'm a britty faggot

Because

1) your rifle is dogshit

2) your voice is effiminate and gay

3) .308 replacement died in two weeks

The end, britbong

>all these niggers itt not realizing the perfect rifle would be a top-loading bullpup

>not scaling up P90's to 10mm

>being a faggot

>>523262

It was a commercial failure in the 90s, so they figure by slathering it in rails tacticool retards will slurp it right up. They probably aren't wrong either.

>>523266

It was a failure because of fagnigger politics. I bet you believe the G11, Steyr ACR, and AR18 are retarded because they was never adopted.

>>523270

I like the Calico dumbfuck, I also realize that there are many retards whose criteria for picking firearms is "how much pointless bullshit can I tack onto this?"

>>523266

>>523284

The calico wouldn't be so bad if they didn't shove the rear sights on the goddamn magazine.

>>523306

This

This is the single stupidest thing I've ever seen a firearm manufacturer do.

I challenge you fags to find something stupider from a usability aspect.

>>523308

didn't someone make a rear sight the only adjustment on an mg that swapped barrels?

>>523315

>t. can't even keep their own vassal state of kiwiland using their service rifle, instead they move to glorious democratic peoples' republic of Illinois engineering

>>523312

That's a fair assessment. I honestly believe that the Calicos could be good (not great) arms if they sat down and genuinely put some effort into tiding up some of the blatant oversights in them-the but the likelihood of them bothering to do so is fucking slim.

>>523313

No idea, see what you can dig up- sounds weird.

>>523313

I believe the Breda 30 LMG had sights mounted to the receiver, so you could only zero it for one barrel, and a suggested barrel change every 200 rounds of sustained fire.

>>523328

I like the idea of helical mags. I know the Bizon and Calicos use them. I think they could be implemented better. I too wish Calico would get their shit together. A 50 round 10mm would be awesome.

>>523163

>Why haven't they taken the bullpup pill yet?

Because bullpups are shit and those stupid AUGs we brought from you cunts were one of the worst things we ever did.

>>523350

> Shitting on the F88

Kill yourself, you sheep-fucking troglodyte.

>>523351

You seem upset :^)

>>523230

Ofc look up the barrel length of an AK vs an AR.

>>523365

That 300BLK load is similar to this one by the way

>>523368

Dayum

>>523163

Bullpups are practical, but OOBD or any other explosion in the rifle turns away a lot of people into using bullpups.

Hence, the reason why a lot of people would prefer the flimsy AR 15/M16/standard layout over a bullpup. If the middle part of the rifle ever blew up for "reasons", at the very least its the operators face that will be fucked and not his/her jugular/neck area.

>>523370

Its a varmint bullet so its designed for fast expansion, but even with .300blk its already going quite a bit quicker than the designers intended so when it hits something it basically explodes. There are guys who build 30" 300WSM guns specifically for that bullet, they get over 4000fps.

>>523373

>>523374

The 110gr HP in the vid I posted is similar in performance to the 7.62x39 SP and Mk262 except it dumps its energy even faster, design-wise its kinda of a cross between them.

Also I always like seeing the 5.45 profile, its easy to see how it got its nickname of 'the poison bullet', small entrance and exit wound with lots of internal damage.

>>523374

>>523373

Is it bad after seeing these I picture immediately erectile dysfunctions?

>>523315

Jelly of other designs BTFO by one that's over 60 years old

>>523374

I fapped to these for about five seconds before I read the text, thinking they were vaginas.

>>523375

You could stand to fuck off yourself you derailing faggot.

>>523360

>>523365

>people bitching about soldiers carrying too much weight

>we need to change to a 7.62 round instead of increasing the barrel length slightly

>ever taking sheep shaggers seriously

>>523447

>pointing out cancerous redditors is "derailing"

t. hasn't contributed anything to the thread other than off-topic shit.

>>523485

We need to change to 6.5mm because even 5.56 out of full length barrels isn't enough.

>>523492

Yes it is. 5.56 yaws and fragments when shot from a 20 inch barrel. m4 a shit.

99.99% of bullets aren't are used in suppression and training. Carrying heavier bullets will just = more weight for soldiers to carry, less bullets, barrels that heat up faster, high cost for the military that could be used in other areas. 6.5mm should stay in the special forces where it's actually useful.

>>523207

That's only the Australian PSYOPs. The rest just shitpost in their free time.

>>523553

>5.56 yaws and fragments when shot from a 20 inch barrel. m4 a shit.

What type of 5.56 are you referring to in particular? and at what impact distance? and what specific barrels are you comparing?

>>523553

>fragment

Within "accepted" assault rifle ranges of 2-300 meters, according to historical dogma, this has a chance of happening.

Within "experienced" assault rifle ranges of 7-900m in Afghanistan, it just makes an (unexpanded) .25acp hole in someone.

>barrels that heat up faster

What? Speed heats up barrels, not the size of the bullet. If anything the size of the bullet increases surface area which would reduce this issue. And with steel case 6.5mm can be similar weight to 5.56, which is why kebab removers are adopting it.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/07/10/new-rifle-serbian-zastava-arms-called-mar-modular-automatict-rifle/

>>523233

military 5.56 hasn't been an extreme velocity fragment-oriented design since the 55grain went away, it's mostly yaw with fragmentation secondary.

the 7.62 battle rifle program is a moron general's pet project and dead in the water. it'll be forgotten in a year. best case they come to the proper conclusion and bring back 7.62 squad marksmen.

also m885 is Belgian dogshit.

>>523254

stylish bullet ballsack

>>523665

>read that one TFB blogpost and knows everything now

guys flawed reasoning is based around a high velocity frag designed wounding round, so of course 224 wins. OTM bullets with good yawing properties are better, and still frag at close range.

he was also jerking off about how 224 Valk is better than 6.5 Grendel even though it only wins out in absolute velocity with worse energy delivery and drift.

i actually like his articles a lot but man he gets off on dumbshit tangents and sky-pies.

>>523677

>m855 is dogshit

>55 grain doesn't work

>inb4 "tee hee, this esoteric meme loading that the military doesn't actually use is good out of an M4"

>>523163

>not using a gun with a 10000" barrel

>not using extended cliperzines

>sinet-pressers

>not using 90cals meme rounds

shigg diggity roodoo

>>523697

>55 grain doesn't work

and where the fuck does that appear in my post? i use 55gr. if i wasn't a poor I'd be rolling 69gr SMKs, but 55gr is a great performer.

and M885 is still Belgian dogshit. inconsistent yawing, poor ballistic'd, bouncy loose nonfunctional penetrator dogshit.

>>523163

Because the US military is training for kicking doors. They leave open battlefield conflict to the mechanical combat MOS.

>>523498

bull pups are always 2 to 4 pounds heavier because they have to have rods for stupid shit that doesn't need rods like safeties and triggers. just look at the tavor its 9 fucking pounds for a 5.56 rifle disgusting. any bull pup will always be heavier than its "normal" rifle configuration and for what? its shorter? the weight is a far larger hinderence than the length of the gun considering buildings used to be cleared with 20" M16s

I REALLY want an AUG in 308 or a 6-7mm cartridge.

>>523734

I really want an M17s with a free float barrel and an accessible gas piston

>>523735

You should probably start with a butter knife honistly.

>>523736

>high-capacity assault knives

oi oi

>>523677

>hasn't been an extreme velocity

62 to 55 grains is maybe a 70-ish fps decline overall assuming the same barrel length.

you're still flying at over 3100 fps.

55 grain is great for initial impact, it penetrates level 3 plate out of a 20" barrel, but it has nothing beyond that, which is why m855 is useful.

vid-related: you get penetration, yawing, and fragmentation. It's a pretty vicious round.

The "5.56" isn't effective round is a meme. Military needs to get back to 20" barrels and quit being such weak pussies.

>>523733

that shit still 7.5 pounds for a 5.56 rifle why? when the AR is 6 pounds? and now with carbon fiber and plastic you can hit 4 pounds. You still don't have a justification for bull pup

>>523748

>and now with carbon fiber and plastic you can hit 4 pounds

Enjoy your floating zero and self-destruction at the thousand round mark.

>>523728

>>523733

>bull pups are always 2 to 4 pounds heavier

When the FAMAS came out it was the lightest service rifle in use by NATO… Same with the AUG.

More compact design = less material = less weight.

>>523784

The actual inherent downsides to bullpup:

1. In case of catastrophic failure, reaction chamber is closer to neck arteries.

2. Swapping mags while keeping rifle on point is difficult.

Everything else is a fake concern "folding stock" and optics/cheek weld complaints or something that can be fixed with better materials or attention to engineering mushy trigger, ejection so it's not an inherent design flaw.

>>523748

>that shit still 7.5 pounds for a 5.56 rifle

And the non-bullpup option is even heavier, I don't see what your point is.

It's probably heavier than the M4 simply by having a longer barrel, having a hand guard with rail sections/M-lok already on it instead of the thin simple hand guard of an M4 and while it uses a lot of polymer, I think the upper is steel, not aluminium. Doesn't really have anything to do with it being a bullpup.

>>523786

Eh, I'd replace point 2 with "muh trigger", while you can engineer a good bullpup trigger (M17s for example), it's still harder to get a better bullpup trigger than a standard rifle trigger, and it always will be as long as we have mechanical triggers, electronic ones would solve that, but currently, if you were to design a trigger, it would be easier to design a better trigger for a non-bullpup.

And swapping mags is a video game balancing meme, it's just that people aren't used to it, the only downside that I see with it is that the magwell is out of your peripheral vision, so you can't see where you're inserting the mag, but muscle memory can fix that and it's only an issue during the day anyway, at night everyone has that issue.

>>523786

Why am I not surprised this post came from a leaf? Why on earth are you keeping your sights on target as you reload? If you can put your sights on the enemy, chances are that he can do the same to you. But I suppose you could always just wear a few water balloons, that way you can shrug off hits from an MBT's main gun.

>>523796

>And the non-bullpup option is even heavier,

No its not the non bullpup option for 5.56 the M16 starts at 6 pounds. Which is the point. That bullpups advantaged of being overall shorted is not outweighed by the added weight that they bring to the fight

>>523989

What the fuck on you on about, lad? You're comparing two entirely different weapon designs. The M16 is light because it's made out of aluminium and polymer as well as not having a trunion or any real load bearing surfaces outside of the bolt and barrel extension and having a light gas tube rather than a piston. You can't just scream "MUH AR-15" when it comes to bullpup vs non-bullpup. The G3 is 10lbs, that doesn't make all non-bullpups heavy, just like the AR-15 being light doesn't make all non-bullpups light.

I've given you an example of the weight difference between the exact same rifle when put into a bullpup vs non-bullpup guise, and the bullpup is lighter, I don't know how I can explain it any better than that.

How about the K&M M17s weight vs the weight of the rifle it's based on, the Leader T2?

Or the Groza compared to the AK?

Or the T86S compared to the AK?

Or the SVU and the SVD?

There's nothing inherently "heavy" about bullpups, if anything, a rifle, when put into a bullpup guise, will be lighter than it's standard counterpart.

>>523803

>Why on earth are you keeping your sights on target as you reload?

Quoted for retardation, weird star thing thrown into a sea with a british flag in the corner flag.

>>524047

Do you think combat is an FPS game m8? If you aren't shooting you should be behind cover.

>>524047

The Aussie is kinda right here, lad, if you're in a position to shoot the enemy, then the enemy can shoot you, and you don't want to be standing there fuddling with mags while doing that. Keeping your sights on an enemy when you cycle a bolt action makes sense, but not reloading, you should be in cover when doing that.

>>524055

>>524049

>im smarter than all the special forces

No you're not, they all train that way for a reason.

>>524057

Err, care to provide a source on that? Because I don't know how you'd find out how every single special forces group trains to reload without going through the training.

Anyway, this is a moot point because bullpups don't magically take your eye away from the sights when you have to reload.

>>524065

Are you illiterate? Where did I say that?

>Err, care to provide a source on that?

Can you find a single CQB source that doesn't recommend doing it that way?

>>524068

>ask you for proof

>"n-no u"

Nice one lad

>>524069

My god you are illiterate.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=CQB+reloading

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tri+gun+runs+firearm

>>524071

These are all just airshit/paintshit/gameshit/3gunshit videos, there's no actual special forces training videos.

If it's so easy to find, why don't you directly link me to a video?

>>523163

>Why does the burger military think a 5.56 shot out of a 14.5' barrel is enough for their main infantry rifle?

Because it is

Wouldn't expect a noguns Ausfalian to understand, though.

>>531053

>Fails to wound properly past 100 meters

>Still issued in Afghan mountains

>Enough

You're an autist. It's not enough, at all. It would be enough if the US Army properly used the tactics they attempt to emulate, but they don't.

>>531072

>>531053

>"because it is"

No, it really isn't.

>in b4 muh AR

I love AR's, but the 5.56 depends on velocity. The military should go back to the 20" barrel and a 1/8 twist tbh.

>>523174

Would 7.62 NATO really be ideal? What if every soldier gets a battle rifle and they're thrust into combat that's so radically different from Afghanistan and Iraq that they wish they were using assault rifles again?

Besides, I think it's a good idea to adopt a modernized 7.62 Intermediate round as a happy medium between 5.56 and 7.62 NATO because…

>lighter felt recoil than a battle rifle's.

>the bullet has better stopping power and penetration and can potentially travel further than a 5.56

>More likely to maim rather than kill when compared to a high caliber round and this is good because it hurts their wallet more to treat their goons' injuries than it does to bury them.

>>523163

>Why haven't they taken the bullpup pill yet?

Why is France and most of nato retiring the bullpup?

>>523208

>UK 60%

>Comparing a population of 65 million to 300 million

>>531051

>154A

I fucking hated those pieces of shit when I was RTO. Why in the fuck the army would invest in a "line of sight" radio is beyond me. Radioshack made better walkie talkies in 1981 for fucks sakes. Antennas break all the fucking time, handmics fry if you get a drop of rain on them, the earpeices of said handmics are just as fucking shit, batteries are shit and the radio doesn't even work when your standing next to the guy you're trying to fucking reach half the time. They go into tamper mode after ever software update so as soon as you get em back from NETOPS, they go right the fuck back. Not to mention every NCO I issued these to had no idea how to fucking work them, same with teamleaders.

>>531044

The absolute fucking truth. We used an RT-1523E though. PMCS'd it enough that I still remember the serial numbers of both my ASIPs.

>>531089

>Why is France

Because they lost the capability of supplying their own country with guns and because international weapon purchase are dictated by political reasons over technical ones.

Austria isn't moving away from bullpup, neither is the UK (they do supply their SF with Maple M4s due to how heavy the SA80 is, but that's their fault). Croatia went full bullpup.

Not related to Europe, but Australia is also staying on bullpup.

>>531088

>7.62 NATO

Was never a good idea.

>>531088

Ideal by what metric? If you want one cartridge for everything you're going to want a caliber between 6.5mm and 7mm with a 0.5 BC and enough powder to push it out of full length barrels at ~3.5kJ or short barrels at ~3kJ.

However 7.62 NATO.is perfectly fine in battle rifles when in very sparse terrain. The Greeks outfit their army mostly with battle rifles in 7.62 NATO, their armies aren't assault-rifle based, because the terrain simply isn't closed enough.

Also 7.62 NATO needs to be brought back for DM and LMG in every fireteam, because a few years ago the Afghans were fucking our teams up with goddamn Mosin Nagants and our teams couldn't respond with full length C7 rifles. I can't even imagine the trouble Americans are having with the short barrel M4 that wastes 20% of the pressure of the 5.56.

>>531088

>>531104

What was the point of the .30 Light Rifle project anyway? Yes, the goal was to use modern material science to deliver 30-06 equivalent ballistics out of a lighter and more compact cartridge. But the finished product was only superior by, what, half an inch of overall length and a negligible amount of weight? They might as well have not bothered.

Imagine an alternate timeline where the army stuck with 30-06 until the 70's. The M14 is a modernization of the Garand that takes B.A.R. mags. The F.A.L. is built for .280 British as intended, and the cartridge is adopted as N.A.T.O. standard. 8mm Mauser remains the predominant sporting cartridge in Europe. The U.S. unveils its new, high velocity, small bore cartridge in 70-something and we're back on schedule.

>>531125

BAR mags woudn't work, but your point still stands anyway. I personally would have liked to have seen .280 actually adopted and they used the EM2 rifle. Certainly that is what would happen in your scenario. Although the FAL being chambered for it is a definite possibility and other militaries would have adopted it.

7.62 NATO really stifled the development of other nations during the Cold War, I find. I could go on about it.

>>531136

>slavs

>white

And you were doing so well, too.

>>531136

America has a larger white population than any nation in the eu. Plus eastern Russians are Mongolians.

>>531154

You do realize that you are essentially comparing a federation, consisting of multiple different states, to individual (nation) states?

>>531152

it is not as simple as that. Asians rush to russia because russia is better than china at any time of day. And by that i mean it is not communist.

>>531154

And so are imigrant russians (the sort that did not leave for Russia after USSR fell). The worst kind of white thrash.

Yes, there are white thrash people. Plenty of them, in fact. Not all white men are thrash (most are not), but i wish to emply there are some white people that are on the same level as niggers

>>531159

You do realize that doesn't change anything about his point?

>>531143

Keeek

>>531152

>America has a larger white population than any nation in the eu

Still, not an argument, having a large population doesn't make it okay to be 56% white, all that means is that America has hundreds of millions of wogs.

>Plus eastern Russians are Mongolians.

Even so, Russia is still 80-ish% white Russian, including all the chinks and turks and stuff.

>>531166

Shieeet, wrong post >>531154

>>531072

>>Fails to wound properly past 100 meters

Citation fucking needed, and the M855A1 round is the bee's knees at wounding.

>>531084

>The military should pay attention to an autist on the internet instead of experienced people in the field

lolno

>>531174

>instead of experienced people in the field

>Implying

The Military only listens to Jewish contractors, not a single experienced person gets to make any sort of meaningful choice.

>>531176

>using Jews as an argument

You're clearly a fucking retard.

From what I recall this is roughly the history, with a few errors accounted to my poor memory:

>5.56 was adapted from .223, a common small game cartridge at the time.

>It was found that the common ~40 grain .223 was too light, and was overly affected by wind at combat ranges. So the 5.56 was introduced at 55 grain.

>However the 55 grain was found to be too affected by foliage (grass, leaves and branches) in combat cnditions, so the bullet was lengthened to make it more than 60 grain.

>The new 60 grain family of ammo was found to best operate at 1:9 twist rates. However due to a tracer round, the twist rate was increased to 1:7, which more than doubled the ball ammo grouping.

>The M16 had the 20 inch barrel because the 5.56 round it used needed that long to accelerate to lethal speeds. However soldiers complained about it's length while in a vehicle, and demanded a folding rifle.

>The M4 was designed to reduce overall length of the M16. The reason why they had to remove around 6 inches from the barrel is because of the 7.25 inch buffer tube prevented rifle folding.

>The end result rifle had a poor twist, and wrong barrel length for the cartridge.

>To fix this a zero-lead round called M855A1 was introduced, which fixed some flaws at a greater expense per round.

In other words it's a cluster fuck.

Round should be scrapped, rifle should be scrapped.

Modernized Stoner 63 with a folding stock, 16 inch barrel with 1:7 twist or 20 inch barrel with 1:9 twist, feeding 6.5mm in 123 grains or 6.8 in 120 grains, should be immediately introduced in all NATO nations.

We have wasted enough time and money n this abysmal series of failures.

>>531174

>M855A1 round is the bee's knees at wounding.

We're not discussing cartridges ITT, but rifles. The M855A1 is even better out of a full length barrel…

>>531187

>those colors

Now I understand why you have autism, those colors fried your brain

>>531184

>We're not discussing cartridges ITT, but rifles. The M855A1 is even better out of a full length barrel…

And .308 is better than 5.56, but military applications are often an application of "good enough" and "better than theirs".

>>531250

> She's some part Tartar.

Is that supposed to be on her defense?

>>531164

Yes it does. I can make that exact same argument claiming that whole of united states is a nigger central because Mississippi is 35% nigger and has less whites than European Union member states combined.

>>531252

All slavs are part tatar. Or rather, tatars and slavs are both part scythian.

But it's a miniscule amount, Greeks have more nigger and persian in them than slavs have tatar.

>>531266

That wasn't even close to his point you dumb monkey brained nigger. His point was that the entirety of the US in total has a larger white population than any other nation.

>>531275

>All Slavs are mongrels

No.

>>531287

They're not mongrel idiot, they literally evolved from Scythians, who evolved from a long line of peoples dating back to exiled Sumerians. It's not mongrelization in the standard sense, they even gained ability to process milk during that time.

Also… they aren't 100% pure. The term slave comes from the name for their people. They got raped by Vikings for 1000 years and every Arab and Turk with blue eyes is the child of a slavic slave.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to fly off the handle like that and call you an idiot.

>>531250

>>531249

>>531252

>>531266

>>531272

>>531275

>>531287

>>531337

>>531342

Who gives a fuck?

>>531348

Turk genetic contamination is a serious issue, anon.

>>531365

Not enough to complain about a girl that both you and I know is out of your league in a thread that isn't about that. Shouldn't you be focusing on paying off that debt, you lazy bum?

>>531136

Because just about every one of our states is larger than your country and we still have a few states above 90%. We're also seeing a growth in the percentage of non-spic whites in the majority of US states

>>531287

You truly must be nigger tier amerimutt not to see how flawed that logic is.

>>531391

Sure thing 48% nigger.

>>531366

> and I know is out of your league

Fucking yellows is the trademark of desperate betas, mate.

>>531391

> We're also seeing a growth in the percentage of non-spic whites in the majority of US states

That's because you count kebabs as non-hispanic Whites.

>>531216

If you have a chance to have a smaller gun with a cheaper bullet that performs better, or a larger gun with a more expensive bullet that performs worst, and you chose the second, you need to be drowned in the bog.

>>531498

Arabs either have their own category or go under "other".

It's nice to see you fucking retards fell for the shitty 60% derail again btw.

Next time someone gets pushed into a corner and starts crying about that when it has nothing to do with the topic just assume you won the argument and move on.

Why are white people so easy to troll?

>>531520

Look at this:

>>523178

>>523202

>>531643

Oh no, one offhand insult and a retarded greentext, better derail completely!

>>531520

Hungary anon is right, you Yanks always start the "WHITER THAN YOU, ACHMED!" shit and then start crying and calling D&C/derailment whenever people point out that you are in fact 56% white and have no reason to be calling anyone else brown.

>>531651

It actually kind of amazes me to be honest.

America is less white than you.

We're fatter than you.

Our education standards are deliberately lower than yours.

Our education is ruled by actual factual fucking marxists.

Both our food and water are poison.

Our government is just as malicious towards us as yours if not moreso.

Our healthcare is not provided to us by the tit of the state, yet remains the same standard to be frank worse than yours.

Yet we continue to be more free than you and overall better than you in every single way.

Americans are truly demigods. We are the Harrison Bergeron of the planet, weighed down with insane handicaps yet still superior in every single way.

>>532068

>has access to more guns than most armies

>has the right to form militia's

>said rights are there to overthrow tyrannical governments

>proceeds to do jack shit while his people are being ethnically genoicded by said government

History will remember you as the people who were literally so lazy they let themselves get ethnically cleansed.

>>532072

That's not really a fair assessment bonglander, this is a boiling frog type of situation. If it went straight concentration camps for whitey you'd see people grabbing their guns and shooting politicians, but since it's a slow boiling alive the majority of the populace do not notice.

>>532073

Most of the population would likely accept the concentration camps without a fight, much like they did in WW2.

Remember Yankanon, most people are NPC's, only small amounts have any real knowledge or understanding of the world around them, it's up to a small amount of people to make a difference.

>>531413

Kill yourself.

>>531651

>t. mohammad achmed al hassini, true and honest brit

>>532069

>posting this fucking image again

>>532075

>he think concentration camps existed

>>532268

>concentration camps

They most certainly did before they were made into labor camps. Nothing will make a jew complain more than having to do actual work.

>>532268

>he think concentration camps existed

They did, and millions of people died there. Most of them, not Jews. In fact only a few hundred thousand who died were Jews, because these were labor camps, and Jews didn't work themselves to death like the others. Most of those who died were mostly gays, insane, gypsies, slavs… hence why slavs hate nazis despite being the most nationalistic peoples in europe

Also I firmly believe the entire west is less than 50% white. You retards like to play "I'm 1% more white than you" but none of our governments are taking proper statistics! Why the fuck are you trusting them with something so important? Have you ever seen cops trying to identify a suspect? They identify mestizo shitskins as white and muslim niggers as "asian"…. Let's play another game my brothers, play "spot the white" with me. Walk into a bus, medical office, post office, class, any mall or store, any restaurant, count the number of white people and divide by the total. At present time I'm in a wendys eating chili. I see fifteen to twenty people. Four are white, not including me. Two of the whites are over 60 here for the seniors discount, one is a soy boy behind the counter, and one is a fat slut with a mud baby. The remainder are muds. Remember the leafs were told by their government that they're 80% white, because government stopped taking statistics when they started shipping in half a million muds a year. Until the government finally released stats in 2017 and now they're 51%. Which is a bullshit number invented to let oppression politics continue, in reality I bet whites are under 40% up there. You think America is better off? Or any part of Europe?? Are you dumb enough to believe muh white countryside when less than 0.1% of people live on a fucking farm? One day you'll wake up and realize we already lost years ago, and all that's left is a war for naked survival.

>>532295

Our government doesn't take the statistics.

>>531519

They don't. "Middle Eastern" and "North African" come under """""white""""" in the US census.

>>523994

The original post talks about 5.56 bullpups

Any bull pup chambered in 5.56 is going to be heavier than any M16 pattern rifle BY DESIGN BECAUSE YOU CANT DESIGN A BULL PUP LIGHTER THAN AN M16

lad so why dont you develop a little bit a reading comprehension before complaining