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76142e No.517231

What happened during the 90s? Why was the mainstream public so successorful into getting majority of the public to back gun control compared to now?

f794cc No.517232

Where is your proof that this success occured?


76660d No.517235

>>517232

The 1994 AWB


4fca70 No.517254


484d1f No.517257

File: bfe0550799f5ec3⋯.jpg (37.48 KB, 640x480, 4:3, 1468367252603.jpg)

>>517235

>>517231

One reason I would imagine is that they used scary and vague language to pass said legislation. The Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 tosses around a lot of language. For example: "Assault Weapon" What is the definition of that? Wouldn't any object capable of assaulting a person count as an "assault" weapon? With this kind of vague language, you can stretch definitions pretty far with the public. Then there are advocates that yammer on about barrel shrouds and high capacity magazines. These, to a non firearm enthusiast, sound super spooky. Not to mention "think of the children" rhetoric that was prominent then as well as prominent now. It's merely a fear jerk reaction. As for today… I don't 100% know why there is not as much backing of gun control. At least for the people I converse with, I was able to get them to understand that firearms are necessary. For the most part, they don't want to ban all firearms outright. They want "sensible" gun control such as prohibition on full auto weapons. I say just keep conversing with friends and coworkers about how firearms are the most effective way to keep an individual safe.


96e547 No.517258

File: cd2c12c77462676⋯.jpg (60.76 KB, 575x1024, 575:1024, C8x0wB5XUAAb4K9.jpg)

File: 007dba2abed94ed⋯.jpg (48.97 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, maxresdefault_5.jpg)

>>517257

>Hey goy, you want jews to get gassed?

>N-no

>Then let them have guns

works every time


484d1f No.517259

File: df26837b9724b44⋯.jpg (610.78 KB, 1315x1600, 263:320, df26837b9724b448d2209a46de….jpg)

>>517258

It's always fun to bicker with libshits and argue that women having guns will empower them far more than smashing a scale ever will.


272393 No.517266

File: f5e4659447e2be3⋯.png (833.44 KB, 1193x667, 1193:667, ff476c299776605f2779882dbc….png)

>>517231

>not as many people used the internet

>trust in media was way higher

>facts/stats not as easy to look up compared to today

>the old "you can't trust everything on the internet" was basically "you can't trust anything on the internet"

>just like in the video people couldn't see media bullshit as easily because most people need things pointed out

>in order to point shit out you need a side by side video with commentary and hand holding explaining every little detail

>who the fuck used the internet then for entertainment/watching videos that wasn't porn or pirated movies

TL;DR

internet raped mainstream media in the ass with the truth


b3a715 No.517267

>>517259

What is that thing? STANAG 5.56 AK?


6598bc No.517269

Haven't we won the cultural war around guns basically?

Things are better now than they were b4 the 90s when it comes to our rights.


102cb8 No.517270

File: 3c2993862fba730⋯.jpg (146.64 KB, 1275x1001, 1275:1001, 1c6cbe953dd0118502b71a2bec….jpg)

>>517267

>>517259

Looks like a Vz.58 with a STANAG mag well conversion and it's making my cock so hard


102cb8 No.517271

File: fb6eacc03c43041⋯.jpg (421.79 KB, 800x1144, 100:143, serveimage-1.jpg)

>>517269

>At least we get fucked in the ass with lube, instead of the man going in dry

SHALL

NOT

BE

INFRINGED

>tfw I'll never get to go out and hunt deer with one of my 20 ar15s

>tfw I'll always be an air rifle target shooting reservist

why even live?


59ab4d No.517272

>>517270

>tfw I have one

>tfw went back to the CZ mags because I like to rock mags in


01dc37 No.517284

>>517269

Not until the NFA is repealed, we still have boat loads of importation issues as well.

The culture war around guns is won when you can freely move guns from your house to your car without nosy neighbors going nuts, open carry not turning any heads, and no fudd sperging over using a modern designed rifle for hunting.

We are at a turning point, keep the ball rolling or stagnate.


b3a715 No.517288

>>517284

NFA, GCA/Brady and all carry restrictions on those of any age.


b515cf No.517291

>>517271

Don't give in to despair, japanon.


01dc37 No.517292

>>517288

>all carry restrictions on those of any age.

As long as drinking age, age of access to tobacco, age to join military, and voting age exists I doubt that will ever happen.


cfdccf No.517313

>>517266

This.

And we're just entering the information age, it wont fully start until 2050.


76958c No.517317

>>517235

>The 1994 AWB

And? How is that indicative of the majority of the public's opinion? Just because a few Democrats decided they can outweigh the rights of millions of Americans doesn't mean it was popular opinion.


76958c No.517318

>>517271

>hunting with an AR-15

No wonder you lost in 45.


01dc37 No.517321

>>517317

Probably best to say the apathy of the general public, including gun owners. In addition the massive superiority of politicians in the area of organization back in the day.


59ab4d No.517326

>>517318

62 and 77gr .223 are perfectly acceptable on whitetail. Its shot placement that matters.


b3a715 No.517332

>>517292

Voting isn't a right. Military membership has always been something you can be denied.

The drinking and tobacco age was accomplished in the most blatantly corrupt method possible.


af4138 No.517509

>>517232

Firearm purchasing trends prior to the '94 AWB. "Black rifles" and other "assault weapons" weren't popular before they were banned. They're more popular now than ever before.

The simple fact of the matter is that "Fuddism" was more common in the 90s than it is now. That is to say, more gun supporters in the 90s than now cared only about their hunting rifles and shotguns. Gun supporters today are significantly more supportive of all firearms, not just muh dur gun rights.


bb2793 No.517516

>>517231

(((GOY VEY, GOYIM, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? PLZ TELL US HOW TO DO IT BETTER NEXT TIME!)))

FUCK OFF, (((RABBI)))!


af4138 No.517517

>>517266

>>who the fuck used the internet then for entertainment/watching videos that wasn't porn or pirated movies

In the early 90s, exceptionally few people used the internet even for porn. Before the AOL/Win95 dynamic duo hit the scene, the internet was the domain of nerds only.

Before then, "public intelligence" was a bastard combination of memes transferred between people in meatspace (this is mostly where fudlore comes from) and information broadcast by mass media. People were shockingly ignorant, but few people noticed it because they too were ignorant.


bb2793 No.517518

>>517258

Anyone know if (((Benji))) has paid the tax for that there li'l ear-pro attached to his piece?


af4138 No.517519

>>517284

>we still have boat loads of importation issues as well.

I don't have any faith in this ever being resolved. American firearm manufacturers have zero interest in seeing importation laws loosened since these laws are protectionist, and too many gun supporters are too patriotic to really care about the issue. The only people who really care are firearm collectors who are only a small portion of gun supporters in general. Perhaps a wealthier portion, but still a small portion.


3c942d No.517521

>>517509

Where is your proof to support your claims?


af4138 No.517524

File: 0f65a4d6ed38a71⋯.png (599 B, 16x11, 16:11, american urbanite.png)

>>517318

>implying that hunting with an AR-15 means you're spraying down a deer full auto

City denizens should get a special flag, not the American flag.

I humbly submit for consideration, pic related.


af4138 No.517526

>>517521

If you did even a modicum of research, you'd find that what I say is true. If you weren't underaged in the 90s, you'd know firsthand that what I say is true.


3c942d No.517527

>>517524

you'd be retarded to use something like a standard .223/5.56 AR on a deer when other calibers are much better at taking one down. Try using your brain next time instead of ad hominem, you dumb cunt.


3c942d No.517528

>>517526

Post your sources or fuck off. That's how it works here, newfag.


af4138 No.517530

>>517527

Something not being the best doesn't mean that it's not adequate. Good shot placement with .223/5.56 is more than adequate for hunting deer.

It's spergs like you who say that shotguns are obsolete for everything but bird hunting because for every other application there are other firearms which are more optimal. You ignore the possibility that something suboptimal may still have utility (this is a strong indication of autism), and further ignore the utility of a firearm being multipurpose. A shotgun may not be the best gun for hunting dur, but it probably is the best gun for being all of the following at the same time: capable of hunting deer, capable in home defense situations, and cheap as dirt.

Similarly, an AR-15 may not be the best gun for hunting durr, but it probably is the best gun for being all of the following at the same time: capable of hunting deer, more than capable in home defense situations, and a great choice to arm 20 people with during a "SHTF, recruit the neighbors and form a militia" scenario.


c2aef9 No.517532

File: f3400f15843d634⋯.jpg (229.55 KB, 387x432, 43:48, 1416346994688.jpg)

Personally I place the blame for guns going mainstream is Video-games, cartoons, and action movies. In the 1980's you had shit like GI-Joe and other action cartoons, while in the 1990's you started to get video games like DOOK NOOKUM, DÜM,Woffenstein and later you got games like COD, Medal of Honor, shit tons of military games. With movies you really only need to look at shit like Rambo, Predator, Commando, Die Hard, Apocalypse Now, or any other popular one, they're all filled with guns.

Guns became cool and people wanted to buy the guns or at least the guns similar to the ones they say in their childhood


af4138 No.517542

File: 75b2a51c166d9a8⋯.jpg (277.06 KB, 648x960, 27:40, CONSUME.jpg)

>>517532

I blame Die Hard 2 in particular for more than it's fair-share of early 90s anti-gun sentiment.

>muh glock is plastic

>muh glock goes through metal detectors

>black plastic guns are for terrorism and crime, normal people can't afford them

All those 80s action movies… how many of them showed criminals using machine guns? Most of them, right? Yet that is far from reality. Nevertheless, it created an intense perception among the hollywood-worshiping American public that America has a pandemic of machine gun toting criminals. This mistaken impression is even worse among Europeans who get their notion of America entirely from hollywood. A substantial portion of Europeans believe that in America machine guns are freely available anonymously over the counter with cash because that's what hollywood and video games (GTA, and GTA-genre games in particular) depict.

Snubnose revolvers have always been the most popular guns for crime in American cities, yet if you polled anti-gun Americans about which guns they wanted to ban, the AR-15 would be at the top of the list and revolvers of any sort would be at the bottom. Because AR-15s are modern machine guns while revolvers are harmless old-fashion guns. This disconnect between perception and reality is created by mass media that depicts fiction but is perceived as truth.

pic related relevant image using hollywood reference meme for irony


d1d6f5 No.520268

>>517231

I grew up around that and heard stories of the old timers.

Here were the factors:

>People were moving from rural to suburban

>Fuds coudn't fathom why you would need more than 3 shots in your rifle.

>No internet, TV had a monopoly on public thought

>Took to long to get ideas across to people, and no organization.

>NRA was still kinda cucked and feared the media

>People were still fearing inner city "youths" and drug wars and drive by shootings 24/7 on the media.


a2b487 No.522880

>>517258

Y'know, I try to avoid sophistry as much as possible, but I really should start pulling my Jew card when I argue with (most) people about guns.


eaaf6c No.523076

File: 1d342361032d2ea⋯.jpg (25.06 KB, 480x270, 16:9, brady.jpg)

>>517231

TV became obsolete


eaaf6c No.523077

File: c5a23e6b716bd47⋯.jpg (508.05 KB, 640x1180, 32:59, brady-campaign-those-peopl….jpg)

File: 8184bff49326094⋯.jpg (158.77 KB, 350x590, 35:59, brady_rape_1.jpg)

>>517269

yup, but the fight never ends. We're in the lead and they're lagging, but it's a cycle that shifts when they catch up to new methods of brainwashing.


56127c No.523082

>>517291

implying it's not a burger with a VPN


20bfdc No.523087

>>517524

City denizens should be moved to Canada to be with their own kind


ff3940 No.523090

>>523082

If I remember correctly the Japanon is actually a kiwi or aussie living in Japan. He was asking which one of our countries he should move back to a while ago.


56127c No.523121

>>523090

He should go to NZ, less gun control, more White and less pozzed.




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