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478a6e No.515483

/k/ How do we win the war on drugs?

534a3a No.515485

File: a10d4c3bbbbc761⋯.jpg (73.42 KB, 634x460, 317:230, blondeGirlWheat.jpg)

>>515483

The people who started it - the power elite - have always been winning it. Their War on Drugs has always served to shore up their power and distract those who might seek to challenge their dominance. Hemp paper was a threat to paper profits - so hemp was demonized. Hippies were anti-Vietnam - so hippies were demonized. Crack dealers might have exposed the erosion of civil liberties - so crack dealers were blamed for the crack provided by the CIA. The War on Drugs has always been successful. The people who started it have always won the War on Drugs. Unfortunately, the people have always lost.


5ee33b No.515487

File: 229f3ab01ac6429⋯.jpg (72.63 KB, 634x423, 634:423, article-2294990-18BF486300….jpg)

Why contain it?

Just let all the dumbasses who want to take hard drugs OD on some crazy shit.


928240 No.515492

Only way to win is not to play. Let people like my cousins die out and maybe people will eventually learn that heroin is bad for you.


534a3a No.515499

>>515492

>Let people like my cousins die out and maybe people will eventually learn that heroin is bad for you.

You fucking pawn. If you let the power elite sell heroin to your cousins, after your cousins OD, the power elite will trick you into buying some other poison and killing yourself.


bd4166 No.515505

The demand for drugs rises when people have nothing to live for. We wouldn't have record-breaking numbers of drug overdose deaths if reality wasn't such a Kafkaesque hellscape. The only way to "win" the war on drugs is to make them undesirable, as you will never destroy the supply outright.


478a6e No.515513

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>>515492

>>515487

>>515492

>Let people like my cousins die out and maybe people will eventually learn that heroin is bad for you.

I hope Krocodil replaces meth as the number drug in United States. It will save tax payers money once they quickly start dying off. It worked for Isis.


478a6e No.515514

>>515505

>The demand for drugs rises when people have nothing to live for.

That's why suicide hotlines should be outlawed. We fixed so many problems that way


96af8b No.515516

File: 7434b4e8207ee68⋯.png (500.56 KB, 562x539, 562:539, ClipboardImage.png)

*teleports behind you*

*unsheathes daewoo*

Nuffin personnel, kid


478a6e No.515523

>>515516

>*unsheathes daewoo

Philippines buys arms from worse Korea?


96af8b No.515525

>>515523

Not really, mostly yank stuff, there's a few pictures floating around of Duterte at weapons shows/expos, sorta like a pinoy ShotShow, so I think the picture might just be from one of those


5b01c5 No.515527

I'll probably catch some flack for this, but start thinking of the cartels and gangs as businesses, then decriminalise the product. At that point you open it up to the free market. The goal here being to lower the prices to the extent that drug gangs can no longer find a market - do you really think that Jamal, the street dealer, has built up enough of a good relationship with his 'clients' to expect brand loyalty when they can get their shit at half the price elsewhere?

I'm not saying that we should open up the flood gates and make it a positive thing, but treat it like alcohol but worse (which is basically what it is); have laws against public consumption/intoxication, make sure everyone knows that turning up to work fucked is going to end up with you clearing out your locker/desk, TV shows and films still showing it as something disgusting that nobody good does - that sort of thing.

Advantages

>Job creation in the new, legal, production chain & sales/management.

>Gangs and cartels wither and die when their market dries up.

>Lower prices reduce the amount of theft conducted by addicts.

>Money saved on policing and jailing can be put directly into rehabilitation.

>This option at the very least pays for itself (and then some). Hell, it probably turns a significant profit - according to the DEA we're talking about a $100 billion industry after all - and the new companies are paying (at least a percentage of) their taxes on that.

>More money available to help the retards who melt their brains.

>The police lose a huge chunk of funding and start having the various anti liberty powers the drug war has given them revoked.

>A hell of a lot more cost effective and easier than firebombing & occupying Mexico, chunks of south America, The Golden Crescent/Triangle and other production areas.

>Politically tricky to sell to the electorate - but who doesn't like seeing politicians sweat?

Disadvantages

>Really fucking scummy.

>Potential for increase in drug use.

>I think a fair few /k/ommandos are probably dreaming of full scale ground war with the cartels, and would be pretty pissed off if an economic solution fixed everything before they could get their short shorts on.

captcha was 'tooegy', should I take that as a sign?


a5dc11 No.515545

>>515527

>The goal here being to lower the prices to the extent that drug gangs can no longer find a market - do you really think that Jamal, the street dealer, has built up enough of a good relationship with his 'clients' to expect brand loyalty when they can get their shit at half the price elsewhere?

last time i checked colorado still had drug dealers.


a33513 No.515548

>>515545

>>515527

As long as there is taxation and regulations on anything there will be a black market. Agorism 101.


10df1a No.515559

>>515483

You don't. Fighting drugs is like fighting AIDS: your best results would be suppressing some sympthoms, but you will never cure the underlying problem.

Given onsetting planet overpopulation, I'd simply stop waging drug war. That will increase overdose deaths, increase cartel activity related deaths, and junkies trying to get their fix related deaths. It would also be a good idea to loosen the self defense court practices so that only blatant murder would net you a jail time and the rest would top out at slap on the wrist. In addition to dropping population levels in general, nigger and spic population would drop dramatically.


d8395f No.515564

>Annex Mexico and Gas all Mestizos

>Gas all niggers

>Gas all Jews

Problem would fix it self after that tbh.


b3d063 No.515565

>>515564

You forgot to include

>Gas the CIA


24aa03 No.515567

Why do Mexicans risk crossing the border with truckloads of cocaine? They will only get a few months in jail compared to if they don't, in which case they will probably get fed to a wood chipper. We need harsher laws in effect on these criminals who are destroying entire communities.

>>515527

>muh freemarket will fix the problems!


56f5db No.515568

Uhh just ban all drugs ? duh


1d5143 No.515569

File: 4240347aef08008⋯.png (2.97 MB, 3333x2083, 3333:2083, united states homicide rat….png)

>>515483

>ITT dumbasses who believe in the war on drugs.

Tell me what happened when prohibition ended?

Oh right you can see it in pic related.


24aa03 No.515573

>>515569

>0 source

Shiggy diggy


1d5143 No.515589


9ed4b1 No.515633

>>515565

>gas all niggers

>>515567

They do it or their families get tortured and killed in front of them.

>>515589

Nigger, even though I agree with your point, you still need to give a source, as well as a less shitty image.


478a6e No.515654

>>515564

Why would anyone want Mexico? Not even Mexicans want Mexico.


a78cef No.515658

File: fa43b83e54bf010⋯.png (173.49 KB, 1550x890, 155:89, Future America.png)

>>515654

>Take clay

>Kill spics

>Gold, silver, copper, lead, zinc, natural gas, and petrol are now in great abundance, this not including the massive amounts of lumber in lower central America.

>Smaller, more easily defendable border.

>Annexed Cuba and rest of Bahamas provide sugar, tobacco, and a general nice place to be minus spics.

>This allows coast guard to patrol through a multitude of naval bases on these islands, killing drug smugglers.

>The smaller and more heavily defended wall provides an actual choke point for spics.


d8395f No.515660

>>515654

Land is land, anon.


362f82 No.515668

>>515658

May as well annex Canada and purge it of foreigners. Then we finally have a land route to Alaska and eliminate the northern land border. And they have plenty of natural resources to make use of.


a78cef No.515670

File: f995a28f7016753⋯.png (163.95 KB, 720x722, 360:361, A future worth fighting fo….png)

>>515668

I had a revelation, Greenland.


e30dda No.515674

why not just legalize since the government shouldn't get to decide what i put in my body


537e28 No.515681

>>515670

That map projection makes it look bigger than it is. Also its covered in ice.


65dbd6 No.515693

>>515527

Probably start out with: Why do people use drugs to begin with?


d01b98 No.515725

File: bc8e2eaf9910fcc⋯.jpg (12.09 KB, 321x400, 321:400, john-goodman.jpg)

>>515567

Money.

>>515564

That would only stop heroin and weed production, cocaine is made in Colombia, Bolivia and Peru.

>>515654

I agree.

>>515658

Pic related


d8395f No.515775

>>515725

>That would only stop heroin and weed production, cocaine is made in Colombia, Bolivia and Peru.

Guess we're taking South America for the reich as well then.


42f880 No.515789

>>515674

Prepare to be bullied, butthead.


d01b98 No.515793

>>515789

Livin here is already like being kicked on the head every single day.

Go ahead, I don't give a large bucket of fucks.


e2e621 No.515819

Why don't we just legalize pot for some fire arm reforms such as repealing the NFA,federal constitutional carry, castle doctrine & Federal stand your ground, outlaw/repeal all assault weapon bans?

I would create a program that would allow druggies to return discarded & their own used syringes for new ones. That way they clean up the public space, and not be spreading diseases.

I would create a program that would give druggies drugs, but they would be forced to attend programs & get sterilized. If they don't show up they get their source of free drugs cut off. At the end of the day people are going to drink,smoke tobacco, and do drugs. You might as well eliminate the cartels while keeping the druggies under your control.


7b7abc No.515821

>>515483

Legalize it, tax it to oblivion. Repeat what we did with cigarettes and shit, basically.


7b7abc No.515822

>>515513

Does your cousin have sovereignty over his own life?

If so, he should be able to decide what he puts in it.

If not, he is a slave.


e30dda No.516347

>>515821

taxes are gay as fuck. the gov shouldnt try to cotrol its people you stupid bean nigger


7b7abc No.516348

>>516347

We're talking about how to "win", mate.

"Should" doesn't play in to it.


478a6e No.516354

>>515821

Pothead cultural is cancerous


73b8bf No.516606

Why not turning California into a drug haven? Legalize all drugs there but you can only consume them if you are a resident or you've stayed for a lapse of time. In a sneaky way, you could round up all those substance addicts into one place, and slowly start isolating them. Remember Escape from New York? Same shit.

AND THEN YOU DROP NERVE GAS ON THEM


478a6e No.516610

>>516606

Isn't California already a drug haven? San Francisco offers junkies free needles at vending machines payed for by tax payers.


73b8bf No.516696

>>516610

Now I thought that it would be actually good to keep all cokeheads in one place, and use them as non stopping workforce. 1000 addicts working 24 hours just to get more coke lines.

Pot heads can work on farms, so they can be one with Mother Nature.

I changed my mind. Yes, relocate all drug addicts in one place, but use them for somet actually useful. And when their addiction starts to render them useless, well, you just "retire" them. Force them to go cold turkey and allow them to die.


cbe3ff No.516713

>>515483

>How do we win the war on drugs?

Legalize all 'soft' drugs, most stoners are single issue voters and only vote left because weed. Remove weed from the table by legalising it and the left loses a portion of their voter base.

Also this >>515487


537e28 No.516770

Medicare/Medicaid, VA hospitals, and welfare in general created the war on drugs. This includes war on tobacco.

>people without drugs and without welfare

<free to spend money however they want

>people with welfare

<drugs cause unemployment, bad health, etc

<welfare costs more if people use drugs

<therefore its cheaper in the long run to shoot your dog

Western world almost got bankrupted once by trying to provide welfare and no restrictions for addictive substances.

You will NEVER get to freely use drugs without getting rid of welfare FIRST.

Which is why I tend to look at anyone who says "just legalize it bro" with absolute disdain.


e372f1 No.516965

File: 77e4f0cc480fab5⋯.gif (48.26 KB, 2034x1491, 678:497, 1455925871718.gif)

>>516770

>hates people who want to legalize it because they make his welfare state not work even more

Die, commie.


7e0adb No.516977

File: 6b1a56ffd04b262⋯.png (97.51 KB, 206x234, 103:117, disaproovement ian.png)

So far, people ITT have said either we should ignore or legalize it, as if the problem will magically go away if we give them what they want. That's worked so well for gun rights. How about instead we introduce reforms to the police system and the alphabet agencies, increase the sentence for distributing by 2x, and build that fucking wall on the southern border plus increase gulf surveillance?


e372f1 No.516987

>>516977

Gun rights are something they are stealing. Selling and using drugs is normally an entirely voluntary market, aside from the odd drive-by or flaying.

Do not equate "Leave me alone, gun-grabbers!" with "Obey me, junkies!".


39fe3a No.516998

>>515483

Firstly, you have to fix the way parenting is done in the US for anything to really work, as long as societal suicide is seen as the en vogue thing to do in popular media and welfare for single parenthood (specifically fucking this) is gotten rid of then there's no hope for anyone.

>>516977

> increase the sentence for distributing by 2x

Distribution law is ambiguous from state to state, it's so bad some states use metric while others use imperial.

Just increasing the sentence won't get you much of anything either because they'll just replace who's there.

It's already too late for it to instantly deflated like with the prohibition of alcohol, but once you deregulate, you find the violent cunts and get rid of them, move to rehabilitation centers instead of prisons for users and put taxes and regulations like there are for medication, alcohol and cigarettes. You'd also have to really reform the fuck out of american parenting and get rid of the STRONK WOMYN DAT DON' NEED NO MAN! single mom bullshit to fix it being pushed on minors as well. I agree with building a fucking wall though.

I mean shit, people had bottles of cocaine from sears in their cabinets, think long term instead of a short term blood for the bloodgod solution otherwise you'll just go back to where you started with the difficulty ramped up (like the current drug war)


0fbd15 No.517000

>>515485

My grandfather came back from Vietnam and a women came up to him and asked if he came back from Vietnam in a seductive accent. He said yes so she lead him to a alley where a group tried to shank him for being a 'baby-killer'. He managed to escape and he realized that he couldn't tell anybody he was a veteran else he get treated like dirt. Year's later when his hair greyed. He was around for his son to come back from the marines congratulated and praised, this was enough for him to collapse in weakness and cry.

I don't give a fuck about anything you said. But you can't tell me that hippie's aren't fucking demons for what they did after the war.


2f8340 No.517005

>>517000

My friend's uncle had to change out of uniform in an airport bathroom so he wouldn't get mobbed by commies. Leftist deserve rape and murder


3bde06 No.517006

>>517000

Some hippies tried to steal my grandfathers green beret when he was on leave in DC and from what I've been told he ended up treating them worse than anything he ever did to charlie.

>baby-killer

My aunt used to tell my grandfather he was a baby killer and such and it turns out that wasn't too far from the truth. Funny how that works.


ba52a8 No.517010

Singapore went hard on drugs and it was fine, same for Japan.

I think the combination of high living standard, a good education system and good law enforcement do the tricks.


00e958 No.517031

>>515523

>Philippines buys arms from worse Korea?

Nope, MULTIPLE countries. Special mention is the PNP-SAF (Special Action Force). They have a fuckton of different funs and I am pretty sure their armorers and logistics people are having a hard time maintaining their arsenal as well as finding and acquiring spares for their inventory.

TL:DR; The word "Standardization" is dead in the DND, AFP and PNP. Fucking top brass always want to have kickbacks for their already-high salary.


00e958 No.517034

File: bac77b27d42e2e5⋯.jpg (18.82 KB, 291x287, 291:287, heh.jpg)

>>515483

>/k/ How do we win the war on drugs?

Be a combination of Pinochet (Free helo rides!), Duterte (remub druggies), LKY (Strict reforming + policing of rules), Mussolini (remub mafia), Hitler (gass the kikes/globalists) plus a dash of Unit 731 (dissection of dead drugges to for science) and VOILA!


e8291e No.517120

File: 82b4efe26d67039⋯.jpg (29.21 KB, 540x402, 90:67, pinochet button.jpg)

File: d7869e07a3fe472⋯.png (55.89 KB, 249x236, 249:236, REMOVE.png)

>Deport all illegals

>Mobilize the military/militias to Remove Cartel physically

>put down minefield

>build The Wall behind that on our side

>tell mexico to expect moab rain if one fucking tunnel is found

>Vaporize entirety of mexico's military and police apparatus because of course tunnels will be found

>Penalty for smuggling shit in is a free helicopter ride back to mexico

>when thats all accomplish legalize most shit here

>NO HELP for retards who lose it and die the shit

>no tax driven programs to provide needles or whatever


fb5004 No.517124

Legalize and out-compete the cartels tbh.


5cb8cb No.517127

File: be2954a257f11ae⋯.jpg (189 KB, 900x832, 225:208, 1465851276505.jpg)

>kill all junkies

>kill off the cartels

It's this simple.


73b8bf No.517129

>>517034

You're on the money


f13955 No.517138

You don't.

You let idiots kill themselves, and those who want to use substances responsibly do so.


9debeb No.517680

>>515483

get weed passed medically, fuck recreational for now. It will SUPER hurt big pharma


70ed1d No.517682

File: 2f2822781bc0d43⋯.jpg (115.15 KB, 640x469, 640:469, you-heard-me.jpg)

Maybe the CIA and most of the secret services should simply be disband.

It was the CIA which organised the drug traffic in Colombia. It's the CIA which organise the drug traffic in afghanistan, and from afghanistan, to kosovo and in the whole europe.

In france, the former head of the drug police was actually protecting the head of the biggest shit dealer in france. The police itself was monitoring the boat who brought the drug from Marroco (then Spain), it was police itself that have carried the packages to the trucks, which then goes into all France.

Stop being a fucking retard. HSBC have been taken doing money laundering for the mexican cartel. HSBC was created at the first place to manage all the money coming out of the England Opium traffic in China.

Most of the heroic traffic was coming from afghanistan, so it was in the american hands. Then it switched to ISIS. It's simply the americans who gave this money directly to their ISIS mercenaries. Nothing more.


42989e No.517701

>>516965

>doesnt realize that beureauocracy is built in layers and you cant remove the most visible layer without dealing with the shit behind the scenes

>memes at me, even though it doesnt understand this

You are a child.

Even immigration is only a problem because of welfare, you could have wide open borders and instant citizenship with no welfare, because no one would want to come.


261b8f No.517702

File: b05086db105c5d0⋯.jpg (17.54 KB, 257x314, 257:314, remubal.jpg)

>>517682

It is not really a mystery as to who protects the drug cartels.

The question is, will "people" even do something about it? Or will it ultimately end up to "untouchables" like us here to solve that problem? The quotation about good men doing nothing is more fitting in the illegal drug question.


70ed1d No.517710

>>517702

If I'm not wrong, when Durtere started his war on drug, he started to insult the american, and then, an ISIS cell appear in Phillipines.

That's my guess, but maybe who's he's actually in war with is backed by the USA.

I think that to fight drugs, you actually need people to be happier (reduce as much as you can the misery, stop the quickest possible the whole drug culture and rape criminal culture), or if you want to brute force the problem, then get ready for a country level war against those who actually control the traffic.

Most of the people think that it's the uneducated faggots in gangs who's managing the whole traffic. The one doing accountability is the one student doing economics in a shitty university… If people knew that it's laughable, and that it's the secret service who actually control all of them by blackmailing them when they're catch doing little criminal act…


5923a5 No.517726

>>517710

This. Most criminals are in the two-digits IQ category. Thinking that they could on their own plot for the trafficking of illegal merchandise between states draconic enough to imprison their own people over racist twitter comments is naive at best.


0c68c7 No.517760

>>515483

Spend all the money on genetic research on Catgirls for Domesticated ownership.


478a6e No.517785

>>517127

Kill all junkies. I like this


5923a5 No.517791

>>517760

>offering domestic catgirls on potential junkies as a substitute

A bullet would be less off a waste.


789890 No.518672

>>516987

austrian economics


7d6e01 No.518813

>>517701

You know, like Poland.


f66974 No.518841

>>517710

>If I'm not wrong, when Durtere started his war on drug, he started to insult the american, and then, an ISIS cell appear in Phillipines

FYI, the Abu Sayyaf Group is a terrorist group here that is "believed" to be the result of CIA. I would not be surprised if this was another one of the kike's abominations via the CIA and might possibly protected by the U.S. JSOTF-P in flipland as well as various corrupt military officers and officials of the Department of National Defense in flipland. I do believe that there are also flip civvie gubmint officials that support and shield these fucks.

>I think that to fight drugs, you actually need people to be happier (reduce as much as you can the misery, stop the quickest possible the whole drug culture and rape criminal culture)

Happiness is a state of mind. You are not supposed to appease them, you need to discipline them. At the same time the flip government,and its various agencies, needs to do its long overdue obligation to this country and its peoples. And that is to create industry and reclaim industries that were "privatized" (read: sold) by the corrupt gubmint under Corazon Aquino after the reign of President Ferdinand Marcos.

If people have the means to buy food everyday because they have the jobs to pay for the expenses, then there will be no need to buy shabu (our version of crack that is cheaper than crack). Just so you know, our shabu is cheaper than food here.

And for the record, there is no such thing as "rape culture". Simply put, there are people (from both genders) that rape and there are the ones that do not rape.

>or if you want to brute force the problem, then get ready for a country level war against those who actually control the traffic.

For us to do that, then we will need to clean up the Justice system, Supreme Court, DND, AFP, PNP, make a flip version of the ami 2nd amendment, and the national ID system. We also need to create out very own defense industry without the grubby paws of oligarchs, corrupt military/civilian officials, and kikes/globalist interfering. It will be a bloodbath, and there will be even more blood to spill.

>Most of the people think that it's the uneducated faggots in gangs who's managing the whole traffic. The one doing accountability is the one student doing economics in a shitty university… If people knew that it's laughable, and that it's the secret service who actually control all of them by blackmailing them when they're catch doing little criminal act…

Many people here already know that. Hence the need for the aforementioned "cleanup" if ever we want to succeed in cleaning up our country.




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