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Visiting place of worship of other religions? عبد الله 09/19/20 (Sat) 08:16:00 383f6a No.42003

Last December, my Sikh friends father died suddenly of heart attack, my friend doesn't have many close friends of his own, so I decided to go with him to his temple for support.

I didn't bow, raise my hands, or participate in any of their prayers, all I did was sat there, I was pretty strict about not participating in any of it that would amount to shirk, and I made sure to tell my friend so that he would understand, and he was understanding of it.

I watched the recent MuslimSkeptic video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIySWut5uhk&ab_channel=TheMuslimSkeptic) where he basically points out how Omar Suleiman shouldn't have been there during the protests where they were doing non Islamic rituals. I know his context of being there was very different than mines, but I don't think that matters.

So looking back at it now idk if what I did was right, and for next time if I should avoid it. Was it wrong of me to go?

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عبد الله 09/19/20 (Sat) 09:00:00 037ffa No.42004

You did a nice thing for your friend and, rest assured, that neither the Quran nor the Sunnah impose an absolute prohibition on attending non-Muslim funerals. You avoided shirk and that's what's important. The building you're in doesn't matter.

"A funeral procession passed by the Messenger of Allaah, sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam, so he stood up. We said, 'It is the funeral procession of a Jew.' He, sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam, said: 'Is it not a soul?'" [Al-Bukhari and Muslim]

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عبد الله 09/19/20 (Sat) 22:31:51 34389f No.42006

You shouldn't have kuffar friends in the first place.

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عبد الله 09/23/20 (Wed) 18:48:21 694d3e No.42017

>>42003

>my Sikh friends father died suddenly of heart attack, my friend doesn't have many close friends of his own, so I decided to go with him to his temple for support.

وَلاَ تُصَلِّ عَلَى أَحَدٍ مِّنْهُم مَّاتَ أَبَدًا وَلاَ تَقُمْ عَلَىَ قَبْرِهِ إِنَّهُمْ كَفَرُواْ بِاللّهِ وَرَسُولِهِ وَمَاتُواْ وَهُمْ فَاسِقُونَ

And do not pray [the funeral prayer, O Muhammad], over any of them who has died - ever - or stand at his grave. Indeed, they disbelieved in Allah and His Messenger and died while they were defiantly disobedient. 9:84

مَا كَانَ لِلنَّبِيِّ وَالَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ أَن يَسْتَغْفِرُواْ لِلْمُشْرِكِينَ وَلَوْ كَانُواْ أُوْلِي قُرْبَى مِن بَعْدِ مَا تَبَيَّنَ لَهُمْ أَنَّهُمْ أَصْحَابُ الْجَحِيمِ

It is not for the Prophet and those who have believed to ask forgiveness for the polytheists, even if they were relatives, after it has become clear to them that they are companions of Hellfire. 9:113

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عبد الله 09/23/20 (Wed) 18:52:06 694d3e No.42018

>>42004

>A funeral procession passed

The procession passing in front, does not mean visiting the funeral on purpose like OP did.

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عبد الله 09/24/20 (Thu) 11:31:06 037ffa No.42023

>>42018

The good thing OP did for his friend outweighs whatever sin was committed by walking into a building.

>do not pray [the funeral prayer

OP didn't

>or stand at his grave

OP didn't

>to ask forgiveness for the polytheists

OP didn't

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عبد الله 09/24/20 (Thu) 21:17:01 694d3e No.42025

>>42023

>stand at his grave

>OP didn't

> I decided to go with him to his temple for support.

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عبد الله 09/24/20 (Thu) 23:24:15 037ffa No.42028

>>42025

>grave

>at the temple

You've never been to a funeral, I take it.

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عبد الله 09/25/20 (Fri) 03:53:12 694d3e No.42030

>>42028

Ask OP to be sure.

But most people bring the tomb at the temple, church, masjid, whatever before burying it.

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عبد الله 09/25/20 (Fri) 03:53:27 694d3e No.42031

>>42030

I mean coffin

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عبد الله 09/25/20 (Fri) 11:13:19 037ffa No.42033

>>42030

>>42031

True, but the coffin is not the grave. There is nothing haram about comforting a friend by sitting by their side at a funeral, provided you do not participate in the rituals or say the Muslim prayer over a non-Muslim.

OP was pretty clear that he did nothing except sit quietly.

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عبد الله 09/26/20 (Sat) 22:24:06 694d3e No.42039

>>42033

No use speculating while OP isn't here, but OP should not have been in a mushrik temple in the first place.

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عبد الله 09/26/20 (Sat) 22:45:44 037ffa No.42047

>>42039

I wonder how one fulfills dawa if one only surrounds themselves with Muslims …

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عبد الله 09/27/20 (Sun) 03:31:01 383f6a No.42056

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>do not pray

So I didn't pray or anything, I only said "Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un" but it was more for my own reminder, I didn't know and I looked it up after but some are of the opinion that its a dua thats asking for forgiveness so you shouldn't say it when a non-Muslim dies, and others say its not and I thought this too, that it was just what it literally means

<"to Allah we belong and to him we shall return".

And I couldn't find any scholarly opinion on the matter, so idk. Other than that I didn't do any prayers or anything.

>or stand at his grave

So idk about this because there was no grave, the body was cremated. Before the cremation they had a secular funeral service where all his dads friends who weren't sikh came, including Muslims, but after I did go with them to the cremation, I didn't go inside the cremation chamber, only the family did, they were projecting the cremation on a TV outside.

>to ask forgiveness for the polytheists

I didn't do this

>should not have been in a mushrik temple in the first place

Idk how true that is, I couldn't find any scholarly opinion saying that was haram before, but I think me just being around mushrik prayer rituals was questionable at the least and haram at most.

>shouldn't have kuffar friends in the first place

All my close friends are Muslim, most of my friends are Muslim, though I do have some non-Muslim friends. This was an old friend from elementary school, high school, and we even went to the same university, though we weren't really close at all, maybe you can say we were more like acquaintances. But Allah says to treat non-Muslims kindly and justly if they are same to you, and thats just the nature of it that you'll become acquaintances if you do that.

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عبد الله 09/28/20 (Mon) 00:18:36 694d3e No.42058

>>42047

in places other than mushrik temples

>>42056

>Allah says to treat non-Muslims kindly

Yeah but don't compromise your tawheed

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