8fe9be No.40307
When Hazrat Umar learnt of a group of people drinking alcohol and justifying it by the Qu'ran, he gave the order that if they think it is permissible to drink alcohol, they should be executed. If not, they should receive 80 lashes.
Keeping this in mind, in a state governed by Sharia, are all Shias, Ahmedis etc. supposed to be given the death penalty?
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90ac59 No.40308
>>40307
Well, since Shi'a don't think it's permissible to drink alcohol, that would be a no.
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8fe9be No.40311
>>40308
It's not about drinking alcohol, but about claiming to be a Muslim and doing right when in fact you are doing wrong. Shia etc. do this, so should they be killed?
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90ac59 No.40312
>>40311
Shi'a don't do that, so again … no.
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56a1a3 No.40313
If you're looking to start a shia hate thread, you're on the wrong board.
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ef7a39 No.40314
Every good Imam from the old times (Bukhari, Ibn Hanbal, al-Shafi'i, Malik etc) gave fatwas saying the Shias should be executed.
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90ac59 No.40315
>>40314
Murder is a sin. Any fatwah that goes against Qur'an is a false fatwah issued by a heretic.
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60e4c1 No.40348
>>40314
ah yes islam the religion of peace
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90ac59 No.40349
>>40348
>Accepts what's said without proof
Begone, /pol/tard
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8fe9be No.40358
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90ac59 No.40361
>>40358
>ctrl-f "death"
<0 results
>ctrl-f "execute"
<0 results
>ctrl-f "penalty"
<0 results
Well, at least you tried.
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1d6f05 No.40369
We're near the Malhamma already.
I'd say we treat the Shias the same as we treat the Christians : wait for Isa a.s. to return. He'll rectify everyone's misconceptions and everything gets resolved peacefully.
Ah, who am I kidding. Humanity is nothing more than a bunch of animals nowadays. Expect a lot of senseless violence and bloodshed because we're all retarded in the end.
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f23209 No.40400
why shia pray on stone caroom board piece?
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90ac59 No.40401
>>40400
It fulfills the hadith of praying in mud or on soil.
Abu Sa`id al-Khudri: “I saw Allah’s Apostle prostrating in mud and water and saw the marl of mud on his forehead.”
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8fe9be No.40402
>>40401
Did the Prophet (s) also prostrate on a biscuit with "Ya Hussain Shaheed" and a picture of a shrine on it?
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90ac59 No.40403
>>40402
It's not a biscuit. It's packed soil. No, the Prophet did not have words or anything on it when he got the mud on his forehead, but not all turba have markings.
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90ac59 No.40406
>>40405
The rugs aren't Sunnah. Praying on earth or that which grows there is Sunnah. If you are praying in a building, then you need something natural on which to prostrate - hence, the turbah. The only time Mohammad(pbuh) put down a mat or rug was in extreme circumstances, like when the ground was too hot to touch with his hands and head.
If you're praying on a nice carpet in an air conditioned building, you're not praying in the way of Allah or the Messenger.
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04fdb2 No.40415
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6c44e4 No.40418
Punishments can only be executed in a caliphate and there are none in this day and age. Therefore the question is irrelevant.
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90ac59 No.40419
>>40415
That's the Prophet telling people to pray at home when the weather is bad. Did you even read it?
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04fdb2 No.40420
>>40419
Why evade the weather if we were to pray in mud or soil?
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90ac59 No.40422
>>40420
Because that's what we're told to do. If you're walking to mosque and there's a thunderstorm or blizzard, you can stay home. Conditions are made for lots of reasons. For example, like I said, when the ground was too hot, the Prophet would put down a pad or cloth. If you're stuck at home, to fulfill praying on natural earth (or that which grows there), you use paper or a turbah.
Praying on the natural earth or that which grows there is Sunnah.
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04fdb2 No.40423
>>40422
And where does it explicitly say that we have to pray on mud or something natural? I can't find the hadith that said the Prophet prayed on a carpet/mat because it is too hot, do direct me to it/them. Though I find that he prayed on a mat pretty often, without much condition to why he did it.
https://sunnah.com/nasai/8/51
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/8/31
https://sunnah.com/muslim/4/321
I can understand if you want to pray in such a way because the Prophet did it in that one hadith but in no way it is explicitly said it is the best of way.
Though, I would like to add that the full hadith you mention in >>40401 emphasize that if you have iktikaf for some time in a place, best to continue at the same place even if it was going to rain and finish your ibadah.
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90ac59 No.40424
>>40423
"We used to pray with the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) when it was intensely hot, and if one of us could not bear to place his forehead on the ground, he would spread out his garment and prostrate on it." Narrated by al-Bukhaari and Muslim.
http://www.shia.org/aboutprayers.htm
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04fdb2 No.40428
>>40424
Alright, thanks man.
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8fe9be No.40465
>>40406
>"If you're praying on a nice carpet in an air conditioned building, you're not praying in the way of Allah or the Messenger."
>"If you're praying on a nice carpet in an air conditioned building with a piece of compressed dirt in front of you, you're praying in the way of Allah or the Messenger."
This is the same as putting a white mark on all your clothes instead of wearing white clothes becuase the Prophet (PBUH) preferred it.
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bb5178 No.40482
If Shi'a cause so much butthurt that the top three threads are about them, they must be doing something right.
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8fe9be No.40485
>>40482
I mean the Nazis also caused a lot of hurt. They must be right too.
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8fe9be No.40536
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7b7f4e No.40602
How could you all even abstain yourselves from thinking that such words could perfectly come from a CIA☻? Bitter hatred given freely that's what you got here.
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90ac59 No.40603
>>40602
There is literally only one person on this board who hates Shi'a, Just ignore him.
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ea25c3 No.40754
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512ace No.40769
The hadd of ridda applies on them yes.
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1aa40b No.41972
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8fe9be No.41973
>Abu Bakr not only massacred open apostates led by self-appointed false prophets, but also Shi’ite Muslims and Companions loyal to Imam Ali
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