44d4c0 No.39713
This country is far too corrupted by secularism for one to safely raise a practicing muslim family. I am going to be leaving the united states. The problem is that I cannot seem to find a country that obeys the sharia in full. Any advice or information you can offer would be helpful.
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4d8535 No.39714
>>39713
You're not going to find a country that 100% follows sharia, especially if you don't personally follow 100% sharia. It is best to find a country that allows you to practice Islam without arresting you for it or putting you in jail for practicing the "wrong kind" of Islam.
… you already live in it! Congratulations.
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44d4c0 No.39715
>>39714
What should I do if I have daughters then? Young women are specifically targeted for zina in this country! What should I do?
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3ae5b9 No.39716
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4d8535 No.39717
>>39715
Try raising them right. I've never had a problem with my daughters because they were raised to protect their modesty. If your child is a bad child, that's your fault, not society's.
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6974ff No.39718
>>39717
Some children are born bad.
Quran [54-14] O you who have believed, indeed, among your wives and your children are enemies to you, so beware of them. But if you pardon and overlook and forgive - then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
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4d8535 No.39719
>>39718
A child who is born bad will be bad no matter where they are raised, so the argument stands.
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e8fc8f No.39720
>>39713
Depends. What languages do you speak?
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44d4c0 No.39721
>>39720
English and a little chinese. Not very helpful unless I want to bring my family up in a concentration camp. I am willing to learn though
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0ace50 No.39723
>a country that obeys the sharia in full
There is no such country.
You can try north africa, but stay away from the big big cities as they are (in most parts) far more westernized than what you might think they are.
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0ace50 No.39724
>>39721
Just read this. Nevermind, I guess.
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6b2fef No.39725
Are you a HNWI (High Net Worth Individual)? If so then switch your assets to a Charles Schwab International account and go house and wife hunting wherever your heart desires. Consider taking up residence in an Islamic neighborhood of a European country.
If not you should probably be a “weekend warrior.” Hold down a good job in the US and take vacations in muslim countries. Take a wife from a muslim country so when you visit you only have to pay the airfare and then chill with her family. If you live below your means in the US you can definitely build a house for comparatively cheap in a north african muslim country. These countries are far from perfect but still they are as close to Disneyland for reverts as currently exist. You can visit, explore, start a business, plan a retirement there. Even many french non-muslim retire in north africa but they get ripped off in their little retirement communities. Better and cheaper to live with the locals. You should learn Arabic and perhaps some French.
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dd7a72 No.39726
>>39716
This is a horrible idea, north Africa is in disarray. I think your best bet might be Malaysia, I've thought about this alot and it seems like if I have to go anywhere it's the best fit.
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4d8535 No.39727
>>39725
>Hold down a good job in the US and take vacations in muslim countries.
Solid advice, but I'd add the caveat to be careful. Especially with the current US administration. You might find yourself unable to come back into the US - even if you are a natural born citizen - just for being a Muslim visiting a Muslim country.
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6b2fef No.39728
>>39726
>>39726
Bro. Maghreb countries are 99% muslim, Malaysia is only 60% muslim. I wish you the best but i have lived in the US as part of the 1% for too long to be anything but part of the 99%. And yes, North Africa is in disarray but that is all the more reason to go there while it is still cheap and has a long runway for development. Think about it like Singapore, the time to move to Singapore was 50 years ago when it was still a poor country.
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44d89b No.39730
>>39713
Any country which has easy visa for you.
>>39725
I heard it's complicated to buy/build houses in NA.
>>39728
>1%
What are you a millionaire?
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6b2fef No.39731
>>39730
>1%
Nah Bernie Bro. I mean muslims are only 1% of the population here.
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0ace50 No.39732
>>39728
>North Africa is in disarray but that is all the more reason to go there while it is still cheap and has a long runway for development
>but
What are you exactly implying by >disarray?
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6b2fef No.39733
>>39732
Corruption, poverty, underdevelopment, unemployment, neocolonialist infrastructure and infiltration, despotic rule. Am I missing something? I still like the region though very much, I much prefer those problems to the problems in a non-muslim country.
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0ace50 No.39734
>>39733
I don't think that's what >>39726 meant, nor what OP might be thinking about. However, trust me the >99% muslim and 1.5 billion muslim figures are a meme.
I've grew up there and saw how now at least half the population doesn't pray, how many are now going open about their unwillingness to fast because >muh personal life, how nudity and adultery, especially amongst youngsters, have become very common(not as much in the extremely poor regions). It's basically becoming the west 100 years ago with a few practicing Muslims. (Most) Mosques even don't stay open in-between prayers as they used to when I was young, 5 minutes after the prayer the Imam would close the doors and ask you to leave. I could go on but my point is clear.
As in >>39723, I'd recommend OP to avoid the big cities, but I guess he'll find it too hard since he only speaks English.
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0ace50 No.39735
>>39734
fast during Ramadan****
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6b2fef No.39736
>>39734
Yeah, I count that as part neocolonialism and part normal. There were munafiqeen even during the time of Rasool saw, of course they exist today. Even if only a small percentage are practicing that is still a better position than a non-muslim country where the way for sinners to “repent” is by engaging in shirk by worshipping Isa as.
As someone who grew up in a christian household full of drugs and fornication that was actually encouraged by my family and family friends I am admittedly inclined to give muslims the benefit of the doubt. As for my maghrebi in-laws yes sometimes prayers are missed, but they always fast ramadan and the last time anyone in the family drank alcohol was during the 1950’s and it was just one man who quit when he got married.
Locking the masajid between prayers seems like a political issue from the bizarre governments that are afraid of muslim political parties.
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6b2fef No.39737
>>39736
Im sure my ‘standards’ seem very low, more than likely because they are. I would love to see more people practice. But even if it is just 100 years behind in degeneracy I can still appreciate that from the evil I came from.
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6974ff No.39738
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6b2fef No.39739
>>39738
>>39738
>>39738
South America has nearly no cultural/religious impact on the rest of the world thankfully.
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aa6fb8 No.39744
>>39721
Lmao akhi you better learn arabic.
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9464bd No.39745
>>39721
>chinese
Wrong. All the educated Chinese speak english already. My uncle does business in China and says learning Chinese is a waste of time. Unless you want to assimilate into the communist hellscape that is China the language is useless.
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dd7a72 No.39749
>>39728
>North Africa is in disarray but that is all the more reason to go there while it is still cheap and has a long runway for development
It's cheap for a reason. It might be an alright as an investment but it's certainly not a safe place to raise children.
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7543d2 No.39751
What is wrong with living all your life in USA? We are the best country bro.
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44d89b No.39752
>>39733
>>39736
>>39737
exactly this, if you wanna live the closest thing that comes to muslim life this would be it, but its far from perfect of course, and I think you are the user who married from there so you know what you're talking about
>>39734
I have a question about the small and rural cities, do they speak french as well as arabic? And can they understand standard arabic or only the darija
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7543d2 No.39757
>>39752
>>39752
I just asked my wife, she says you can get by perfectly fine with either fusha or french in all Algeria. I personally have a small book of darja phrases but it is extremely hard to learn without immersion as it is not formalized.
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7fc368 No.39768
>>39752
(Morocco)
They understand and can speak Fusha Arabic, most would understand french but will have a hard time expressing themselves correctly.
There were a few "Muslim-style" private primary schools, it might interest you. I studied in one of these.
Each morning, 15 minutes before the class starts they would gather us all to recite Al-Fatiha, say a few Duaas for remembrance in the morning, praising the Prophet peace and blessings upon him then sing the national anthem. All teachers and staff dressed respectfully. Girls who would reach puberty(heck I remember one reached it in mid 2nd grade) were told, secretly, after contacting the parents, to do the same.
Globally, they would filter out throughout the courses every bad deed the modern society promotes. It was high-quality AND dirt cheap as well, I'm talking about less than 100$/month. Too bad it was only up to 6th grade because straight after that I deviated(puberty already kicked in+ french mission school).
I don't know if they still exist today, but I'm sure they had a network of similar schools all accross the (north of the) country. I'll ask about them once I'm back InchaAllah.
In >>39734 , by 100 years late I'm saying they're slowly following the west. Upper mid to high class are mostly sons of low-key atheists/never cared about religion. Easy, daily access to the internet, TV and the almost non-existent moderation made the rest corrupt. The poor are the most religious. The few left just cope with Hash and sitting in a cafes all day. Though, as >>39736 said, Kufr exists at all times and places. Except, according to my parents, ~40years ago there was STILL social shaming, even amongst the non-religious. You would almost never see a couple outside in hiding doing their dirty stuff(kek I remember us young would look for those in public parks and throw stones at them). Now they're everywhere in broad daylight and no one would talk. I might be a bit pessimistic about the future but I'm just making sure you know what you should be waiting for.
Also
>1st pic
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44d89b No.39782
>>39757
Thanks for the info, did you bring your spouse to the USA or do you visit her in Algeria?
>>39768
Those seem like good schools to raise kids in, I would definitely send my child there, other than the anthem bit (which I assume they do so the govt doesn't bother them) it sounds like a good school. I'm assuming the degeneracy is mostly contained to the big cities right? If I travel in a rural town I should find arabic/french speaking ppl with no degenerates?
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415a3a No.39902
>>39782
I'm >>39768
Degeneracy seems to be inversely proportional to the level of poverty.
Sadly, gen Y and up link devotion to religion to decadence, non-civilization, the same way many outsiders refute islam because it's the religion of arabs and arabs bad.
Many now are coming to reject basic Islam concepts and adopting western standards just because
>i can't believe that in THE CURRENT YEAR we're still thinking like this, people are civilized now, for how much longer are we going to think X is wrong?
I'm pretty sure they are ignorant of the existence of people like you(white converts).
It's seriously not worth trading the well-being and development for """no""" degeneracy imo. They seem to be slowly catching up. The subversion is too strong
I came back there yesterday and was a little surprised. kek anon don't come and ruin your family's life
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44d89b No.39943
>>39902
I wanna cry by Allah because of this degeneracy.
Born muslims are so blessed with Islam but they turn their backs on the quran. What is wrong with arab brothers, I feat a great punishment of Allah upon them for their disobedience.
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47947b No.39946
>>39943
A good chunk of Arabs never became Muslim and always hated us. Hated us so much they doubled down on obviously fake ethnic cult religions just to make themselves distinct from Muslims. If you look up the history of Syria for instance you will see it was a Sunni territory but then in the name of Arab Nationalism the secular sunnis created an affirmative action plan for the Druze and Nusayris. This is how peasant families like the Assad clan were sent to the military academies and then they took over the military eventually and turned it against first Christians, then the Christians submitted to them, then they turned it against Muslims. Arab Nationalism is poison.
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47947b No.39947
>>39782
>Thanks for the info, did you bring your spouse to the USA or do you visit her in Algeria?
Brought to USA. Much easier to get a wife from Morocco or Tunisia tbh. Visa-free travel. I am going to be spending the rest of my life dealing with Algerian bureaucracy. At least they have less tourists than their neighbors tho.
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3ae5b9 No.39954
>>39946
>Arab Nationalism is poison.
Nusayris were already zanadiqah that pretended to be shi'ah of ahlul bayt. Arab nationalism was just another cloak of hypocrisy they used. The actual root of all bid'ah and treason against the Ummah you'll see is shu'ubiyyah.
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44d89b No.39976
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>>39954
yup, is it any coincidence that most bid'ah comes from 'ajam? (sufism, ahmadiya, bahai, rafidism, alevism, nusayriya, isma'iliya, nation of islam, turkish nationalism, etc..)
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3ae5b9 No.39985
>>39976
And Sunnah-rejection, secularism, and apostasy are all just results of aping after the latest trends from some ’ajmi countries. What we witness is the veracity of the hadith stating that "loving Arabs is I’maan and hating them is nifaaq”. shu’ubiyya is the common denominator of all kuffar/munafiquun.
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9464bd No.39987
>>39976
>>39985
I hate Shuubis but some of the worst heretical movements are from the minority Arabs. Shuubis love minority heretical Arabs, they only hate Sunni Arabs. Twelver Shiaism, Nusayrism, Ismailism, all from Arabs.
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3ae5b9 No.39988
>>39987
Twelver shi'ism and their batini offshoots are creations of non-Arab zanadiqah. And there are individual traitors that may speak Arabic but their hearts are hearts of 'ajam as prophesied in the hadith. That doesn't mean the movements are not shu'ubi in nature.
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44d89b No.39990
>>39988
It's just easier to be a jahil if you don't know the arabic language, and only their "imam" has a bit of arabic knowledge and uses his authority to brainwash the 'ajamis. Kinda like when only christian priests could study latin and the peasants just believed whatever they told them because they were illiterate.
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2714d3 No.40001
>>39990
Again bro look at Lubnan, Sham, Iraq. These extreme deviants are all fluent in arabic. And in some cases it is their LEADERS who have no Arabic. Look at the Safawi Master of Arabs Sistani in Iraq. To this day he can barely speak Arabic and there is no audio of him speaking because of this. No public speeches, nothing, ever. Yet there are thousands of Arabs who for every conceivable reason should be normal Muslims who instead believe he is infallible and they kill other Arabs and rape other Arabs and steal from other Arabs for him.
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3ae5b9 No.40002
>>40001
They think they're doing it in the name of ahlul bayt(as). Twelvers have no shame and have been practicing their taqiyyah and brainwashing for centuries. Even most Sunnis still have husn al dhann for people who since birth want to genocide them because that will be revenge on Banu Ummayah somehow.
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44d89b No.40004
>>40001
>Sistani
Exactly, this persian zindeeq kafir is a 'ajami majoosi who acts as a muslim, and rafida of iraq are simply the donkeys of the majoos. They are the cuckolds of the arabs. They are so dumb, deaf and blind that they believe their clerics without even reading the quran once, which would disprove their khurafat (call only upon Allah, nobody knows their death, dead can't hear you, only you bear your sin, muslims lead muslims, no infallible imamah, ahul bayt includes wives and are our mothers, etc..).
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44d89b No.40005
>>40002
They consider the syrian sunnis sons of umayya btw, that's why they hate them so much and support bashar al kalb
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b3520a No.40006
>>39943
That's what illiteracy(not literally) and strong subversion, alongside Iblis' whispers, does to my people.
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44d89b No.40017
>>40006
You must do da'wah to them my brother, learn what is taghut and then explain to them the importance of rejecting it to be muslim.
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7558f4 No.40136
>>39714
This
>>39715
You know, at the time of the Prophet (pbuh), people were also targeted for zina. And btw, don't worry exclusively about your daughters, because the porn industry froth at the mouth at the idea of corrupting young men too.
Do what the Companions did: educate your kids well, encourage (and help) them get married, explain to them what is haram and why, how it's bad for them, etc.
>>39716
Alrgerian here. North Africa isn't necessarily better than the US. I mean there are mosques everywhere, the call to prayer, etc. but there's also way more corruption than in the US. Criminality can also be higher than in some parts of the US.
Plus Westerners are seen as prey unfortunately, even if they're muslims.
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d06448 No.40137
>>39757
>you can get by perfectly fine with either fusha or french in all Algeria
This is not true. I'm sorry, but it isn't.
Now I'm not saying it's impossible, but don't expect it to be easy. You won't be able to be understood by people, and it will be even harder to understand people as very few of them do speak French or Fus7a.
I'm not advising you against going there, just try not to have the wrong idea about what life is like there.
>>40005
>that's why they hate them so much and support bashar al kalb
Yeah, probably has nothing to do with the fact that he seems to be the only alternative to the bloodthirsty Daesh.
>>39902
>Degeneracy seems to be inversely proportional to the level of poverty.
Totes.
>>39734 is right.
The worst thing about Ramadhan isn't the people who don't fast it, but those who do just for others. And don't get me started on those who make Ramadhan the month of wasting food.
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