a358e1 No.37539 [Last50 Posts]
Is Glutteny haram?
What did Muhammad (SAW) eat and how much?
What did the people of time of Muhammad (SAW) do to maintain a decent diet?
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c079da No.37540
>>37539
>Is Glutteny haram?
Yes.
Sūrat l-aʿrāf (The Heights) (7:31)
"O children of Adam, take your adornment at every masjid, and eat and drink, but be not excessive. Indeed, He likes not those who commit excess."
Miqdam bin Ma'dikarib said:
"I heard the Messenger of Allah (S.a.w) saying: 'The human does not fill any container that is worse than his stomach. It is sufficient for the son of Adam to eat what will support his back. If this is not possible, then a third for food, a third for drink, and third for his breath."
Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2380
>What did Muhammad (SAW) eat and how much?
Yahya related to me from Malik from Abu'z-Zinad from al-Araj from Abu Hurayra that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "The food of two is enough for three, and the food of three is enough for four."
Book 49, Hadith 20
>What did the people of time of Muhammad (SAW) do to maintain a decent diet?
Narrated `Abdullah bin `Amr bin Al-As:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said to me, "I have been informed that you pray all the nights and observe fast all the days; is this true?" I replied, "Yes." He said, "If you do so, your eyes will become weak and you will get bored. So fast three days a month, for this will be the fasting of a whole year, or equal to the fasting of a whole year." I said, "I find myself able to fast more." He said, "Then fast like the fasting of (the Prophet) David who used to fast on alternate days and would not flee on facing the enemy."
Sahih al-Bukhari 3419
Also here's a list of quranic foods
https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-Quran-say-about-food
If you have trouble with weight you need to stop masturbating and increase testosterone. Estrogen makes you eat all the time and have less muscles which burn calories simply by existing, that's why women have more trouble losing weight. I recommend zinc pills, raw garlic and pine pollen.
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c079da No.37541
Reason why most ppl get hungry quick after eating is because in our modern world we eat like garbage, with soil demineralization and nutrient dilution in foods, meaning foods today are less nutritious than 50 years ago, due to mass industrial farming exhausting the mineral supplies of the top soil. This makes it so when we eat we fulfill our caloric needs but not our nutrient needs, that is vitamins and minerals, so your body craves more and you need to eat more to get a few percent more nutrients, side effect of eating more is obviously more calories which your body stores as fat. If you felt satiated with both calories and nutrients, you would be satiated for hours and eat less. Masturbating does not help as it wastes precious minerals and lowers testosterone levels, which men need for healthy bone and muscle development.
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2d6e2d No.37546
When bulking you have to eat more than required to increase muscle mass and strength, but is it Islamically haram to do so?
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97d964 No.37552
>>37546
Your body's demand for food should increase with work, bulking is silly.
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2d6e2d No.37553
>>37552
And you don't go to the conclusion that working out is work?
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97d964 No.37558
>>37553
Of course it is, but bulking requires you to consume much more than you use. You should consume according to your need.
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d9adaf No.37559
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2d6e2d No.37560
>>37558
Well either i bulk or i go nowhere with my workout. Thats how it works.
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c079da No.37569
>>37559
>ezekiel bread
>>37560
that's not your body's natural state, in nature you wouldn't be able to maintain such caloric intake
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97d964 No.37584
>>37560
Have you actually tried it? Are you sure you're putting the right stuff in your body?
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2d6e2d No.37589
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bc14ec No.37660
>Is Gluttony haram
Gluttony is a cardinal sin, anon.
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c079da No.37665
>>37660
>cardinal sin
we are muslim not catholic
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0656b8 No.37666
>>37660
>cardinal sin
lol wut … gonna tell him to pray the rosary?
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bc14ec No.37668
>>37666 (Nice try, Satan)
I went to a Catholic HS. But still, if it's a big enough sin to have various enemies styled after it in videogames, that should be a clue to how serious gluttony is in all faiths.
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0656b8 No.37669
>>37668
Yeah, well, we're not interested in what mushrikeen think of as sin. Take your opinion back to /christian/.
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2fb598 No.37670
>>37668
>video game opinions matter
Why are you here?
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a1bd11 No.37678
>>37668
>catholic terminology
>video game analogies
>quacks like a duck
Please go to the trini thread or back to /christian/. Thanks.
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5b4cda No.37681
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3fb22c No.37686
>>37668
Those are just like post numbers man, they have no supernatural significance.
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c079da No.37687
>>37681
It is halal, but some foods are superior than others, and some foods produce estrogens which are better for women but not so good for men. Mint is one of them. And Allah knows best akhi.
>>37686
this akhis be careful
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bced0b No.37771
>>37589
Not from the sunnah
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c079da No.37774
>>37771
I agree it's quite wasteful. Allah (swt) says do not waste food.
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2d6e2d No.37831
>>37771
>being strong and healthy isn't part of the sunnah cause my very overweight imam told me so
Did the sahaba or Muhammad SAW just do nothing most of their time and just being very lazy? No, they were the most hard working people doing the best they could do for their physical, spiritual and mental health. Saying that its not part of the Sunnah to work out is something only a cope would say.
>>37774
how is eating food for the sake of gains wasteful? What kind of logic is that? I regret really thinking anyone here having actual knowledge of things but clearly its just some random neets on the internet trying to act like scholars.
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c079da No.37842
>>37831
>being strong and healthy
bulking forcing yourself to eat is not being healthy, its the definition of wasting food, eat what you NEED, not what you WANT, nothing in the sunnah says for the sake of "gains" eat a lot of foods, the sunnah is enough for a third of your stomach MAX and yes exercise and physical work is sunnah but its mostly with actually producing something like building or fighting wars not lifting a weight and putting down repeatedly
you might be a swole toad but im sure you lack balancing muscles and your bones arent as dense as an average construction worker or fighter and thus I could probably beat you easily
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2d6e2d No.37899
>>37842
roided bodybuilder =/= powerlifter you noob. And i'm pretty sure that i could throw you and run after you to catch you if i wanted to. Don't try to act tough on the internet, thats not gonna help you in any way.
My question to your pseudo intellectual mind is, what if i had to eat 20000 calories a day because my body NEEDS it. Would that be okay by your standards? Or is that considered waste as well because of the magnitude of what i'm eating. Not only that, you have such a flawed perception of nutrition and training that you correlate two very different ways of training to the same body type and goal. Its laughable.
>but its mostly with actually producing something like building or fighting wars
Building stuff is not excercise and saying that, that is the only way to physically strain your body or going to fight in war is insane. Do you even work out? Like do you actually go outside once in your life? Do you have any idea what a barbell is? Do you know what a boxing glove is?
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3afc98 No.37901
>>37899
Stop trying to justify your gluttony. Picking up an object and putting it back down again in repetition is the single most useless "skill" a person can have. Go do something productive.
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c079da No.37918
>>37899
your body doe not NEED 20k calories, this is simply ecessive, science shows on average men need 2k calories and women 1.5k per day. I can bet u never spend a day in the sun doing carpentry cuz u sound like pale flabby guy on the internet tbh, your not a big guy or superman, picking up steel weights and eating boiled chicken is not natrual or healthy, thats not how the sahaba got fit, they got fit by doing everything themselves like real men , and they were moderate bodies not large or muscular as well , this is unsustainable in nature, you can never get enough protein or calories per day in a nomadic diet which is the most natural state of man
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2d6e2d No.38005
>>37901
T. guy that has never worked out in his entire life thinking that eating greens and meat is gluttony
>>37918
that was a theoretical question you nog. And a man does not need 2k calories per day, unless he be an anorexic little nu-male. Well goes by your logic, boxing, basketball or gymnastics is also not the right way to get healthy cause the sahaba didn't do it? Are you actually implying that i need to fight in war to make myself stronger? I remember a hadith mentioning Umar Ibn Al Khattab being pretty big so how can you justify that? Was he also gluttonous cause he was big and healthy and strong and could probably break you in half?
BTW picking up weights is the easiest way to get stronger and there is literally no reason to try to make this haram for your sore ass. Go out and actually do something with your life instead of trying to make everything that is hard in life haram and act like the sahaba were this, but we can never be like them so we shouldn't even try.
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c079da No.38007
>>38005
>And a man does not need 2k calories per day, unless he be an anorexic little nu-male.
according to biology yea thats what men need to be healthy, anymore is gluttony and being greedy
> I remember a hadith mentioning Umar Ibn Al Khattab being pretty big so how can you justify that?
this is simply false
>but we can never be like them so we shouldn't even try.
that is the mentality of a nu-male soy consumer
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2d6e2d No.38014
>>38007
>that is the mentality of a nu-male soy consumer
exactly, just like you. Imagine actually thinking that working out is haram.
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431995 No.38024
>>38005
>working out is the only way to get strong
You are pathetic.
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2d6e2d No.38036
>>38024
Says the weakling that probably can't even run with his scrawny little legs. Repeat after me, WEIGHTLIFTING IS THE BEST WAY TO GET STRONGER.
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2d6e2d No.38037
>>38024
Btw for your little wanker head, YOU BURN CALORIES when you lift weights or do any exercise for that matter. So bulking is basically the default no matter what.
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431995 No.38038
>>38036
I'm a farmer, you daft idiot. No matter how much you lift you wouldn't be able to keep up with me on so much as 10 sq ft. All you've got is the ability to pick up a thing and put it back down for a few reps. Meanwhile, I can till soil by hand all day from sunup to sundown with only an hour for lunch.
You are a weak, pathetic ☻ and you know it. That's why you cry at the gym while I do a real man's work.
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c079da No.38039
>>38014
Ok listen kid, let's me and you go out in the woods for a week and see you deflate like a baloon without your creatine and soy protein. In nature your physical shape is determined by what you can grow, hunt or forage, you think u can get the proteins and calories you need all alone? Get real kiddo, you are something else's lunch in the wild, picking up rocks and putting them down won't save you.
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c079da No.38040
>>38036
>WEIGHTLIFTING IS THE BEST WAY TO GET STRONGER.
OH NO NO NO
>he actually believes this
>he dosent know about kinesthetics, hiking and manual labour
>thinks his water swollen muscles mean strength
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c079da No.38041
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431995 No.38044
>>38039
Exactly. I could even keep up my farm without having to cry about "muh gains" during Ramadan. The soil has to be worked during the early spring to prepare for the planting - even during the fast. Otherwise, my family doesn't eat good foods during the late summer and through the winter. I suppose the "power lifter" doesn't understand that due to shoveling pounds of soy powder down his throat all day just so he can pick up a rock.
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3fb22c No.38045
In the grand scheme of things isn’t spending money on extra food and supplements to powerlift like spending money on the newest iphone or other entertainment? Don’t you think some of the Sahaba RA would consider a television or a smart phone excessive, wasteful, and not necessary? Eating more than is necessary isn’t haram, just like living in a bigger house than is necessary isn’t haram.
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321d7e No.38046
>>38045
Imam Malik was ripped and he ate meat everyday to stay big. He also wore the finest clothes for the same reason he strove to speak with eloquence: to represent the dignity of Islamic scholarship. If he lived today he would be /islam/ /fit/ and /fa/. He made himself powerful and regal not for himself but to represent the Ilm of the nation and show that zuhd - asceticism is not the only path.
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c079da No.38062
>>38044
Do you farm in the midwest? Have you heard of the #NoPlant19 trend? Farmers having problems planting due to rains and floods.
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431995 No.38064
>>38062
Yeah, I'm in Ohio. We had some horrible tornadoes and bad flooding that has destroyed a lot of farms. I'm not a commercial farmer, though, so I'm not tied to the government and don't receive subsidies. I farm to feed my family and my neighbors, so I can't "not plant" or we'll either have to go hungry or we'll have to buy commercially farmed food from a grocery store.
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c079da No.38066
>>38064
>I'm not a commercial farmer
What made you go in subsistence farming? Did your family already own land and equipment?
>I farm to feed my family and my neighbors
May Allah bless you and your family and bring barakah in your foods.
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431995 No.38070
>>38066
>What made you go in subsistence farming?
I grew up on the farm I now own. It was given to me when my grandfather died. Over treatment of the soil and the regulations imposed by the government on commercial farms concerning pesticides and such has leeched many of the good minerals and nutrients out of the food you buy at a grocer's.As an example, you would have to eat 6x the amount of carrots you buy from, let's say, Walmart to get the same nutritional benefit derived from home grown carrots. The lack of nutrition and processing of modern foods has done untold damage to the average American's health. It saddens me.
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c079da No.38084
>>38070
Ever thought of building a muslim commune? Are your neighbors muslim?
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431995 No.38089
>>38084
One of my neighbors is Muslim, but the others around my area are Lutheran. Of course I don't mind giving food and sharing whatever I have with the local Lutherans, but there aren't enough Muslims around here to form a commune. We have a mosque nearby and an Islamic school in Dayton, but unless more Muslims move out of the cities we'll just stay content with our little community.
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28d6a8 No.38090
>>38089
>michigan
As a sunni I have and would make a real life effort to avoid that place. I have no idea why Iran has been allowed to turn dearborn into a shia slum straight out of Lebanon/Iraq.
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c079da No.38091
>>38089
>but unless more Muslims move out of the cities we'll just stay content with our little community.
If I could I would, but most muslims are probably not ready for such a commitment. InshaAllah your neighbors convert : )
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c079da No.38092
>>38090
yeah and they literally fund hezbol-lat
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431995 No.38097
>>38090
>michigan
>avoid that place
Well, good thing I'm in Ohio, then. >>38064
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431995 No.38098
>>38091
>InshaAllah your neighbors convert
Some of the kids (teens/twenties) have become curious because of the way we treat our neighbors and take care of others, but the older generation are pretty set in their ways.
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