/islam/ - 8kun Masjid

Um no. Muslims need to protect our communities from alt-scum. When I am in masjid I have 9mm and body armor. The last thing we should do is disarm ourselves.

>>37320

London is very different to America, here the issue is that our youths are stabbing each other over nonsensical disagreements (the postcode wars), they're rarely for self-defence. The people disarming themselves are the same people carrying out murders weekly.

>>37320

But muslim are alt-rights. They want segregation, bring back slavery and hate women' feminism and gays.

>>37323

The alt-right is based on ethnonationalism and Islam rejects this. There's also the fact they want us dead.

>>37323

We are not "alternative" or "right wing". We love women but hate feminism and gays also slavery is halal until the day of judgement even if you dislike it.

>>37329

Also with devshirme(when ottomans take bulgarians, romanians and albanians childs for serv them in army) that janychars have right to drink akchohol and eat pork. From janychar islam raised Bektashi sufi taricate, where muslim must drink wine in mosque, only one wife and no hijabs and burkas. 60% of albanians are bektashi, in Albania everybody can purchase wine, rakija(balkan vodka) and newsteller women show their tits on TV:

BO Edit: Links may contain inappropriate images. Click links at own risk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPtNCcmS_GY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1nR4Px-s1M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DtsCm-_Ukg&t=47s

So pomaks(my kum is pomak, bulgarian muslim, that tradition of balkan islam to have christian kum) too drink vodka and has one wife and hate hijabs.

So ottoman's slavery missionary sucks… Or maybe that balkan and slav people are genetic formed by Allah to drink alchocol, hate hidjabs and have one wife.

Also, i drink a lot with turks in Turkey.

>>37324

In Ukraine all my muslim friends voted for nazies, 60% of crymea tatars(not all of them are muslims, but most of them are muslim) voted for Nazi-Socialist Corp and Right Sector(Trizub, followers of Stepan Bandera).

>>37331

Nazies too hate feminists and gay, love girls and want to slave chinky-eyed russians and ☻s like this want and muslims. So muslims always allied with nazies from Hitler to nowadays right wing forces.

>>37330

Ok, alt-rights are pussies, but an old-school rights(skinheads, foobs, hooligans) are with muslims now to get that feminist's and fag's scum shut up and slaved ☻in' chink-eyed kafirs like russians and vietnams with chinese. Also in China muslim uygurs and huys are opressed and slaved by this ☻in maoism.

Is there really that european men degenerate to infantile imbicils, that they begin cry and run if they'll be beating in face?

>>37346

This sentence cannot be parsed.

>>37340

Added a caveat to the video links and amended Rule 2 to cover such things in the future. See: >>37351

>>37352

Vol here. How do we deal with this illiterate balkanposting that seems to glorify alcohol and other degeneracy in the name of Islam? Can we just wipe this garbage? It’s not even readable.

>>37353

Honestly? I'm not sure. It seems harmless in and of itself, just strange. Like the fellow saying he's a vampire. Maybe it's just banter. I'll ignore it unless it gets downright offensive, but I'll leave it otherwise up to you.

>>37340

ban this degenerate

>>37340

Go away, degenerate.

>>37359

>>37368

He's not a degenerate. He's right. Albanians have lost touch with Islam. You can't complain when someone points out the truth.

>>37369

He is linking youtube videos of ‘newsteller women showing tits on TV’ and talking about drinking alcohol and eating pork. That isn’t being right, that is being a degenerate. There are many better ways to “point out the truth”.

>>37370

How are we supposed to discuss sin and correct our brothers if we ban everyone who talks about drinking alcohol and eating pork? Also, maybe English isn't his first language. That can make it more difficult for someone to express themselves on an English speaking image board.

>>37340

>those links

I'm now fluent in albanian.

>>37371

>balkan and slav people are genetic formed by Allah to drink alchocol, hate hidjabs and have one wife.

Yea, maybe the words 'genetic formed' were mistranslated. Thinking that different races are subject to a different set of Islamic rules doesn't make any sense at all. I can't imagine how someone could be that stupid to say something like that, it must be some kind of mistranslation.

>>37370

This year Albania buy 3100 tonns of pork from Poland and Ukraine. Albania was under atheist-communist reggime many years, so this is true.

Also, Skandenberg is albanian nathional hero, he was christian who killed and tortured muslims. Statues of him stand in Tirrana and other cities on central squares.

>>37381

>>37383

Albania is only half muslim. So this is to be expected. But yes, Balkans is lost without Turkey.

>>37369

it's more of the tits im worried about almost broke my fast im already walking with an erection almost all day don't need more

>>37391

Perhaps you should not have clicked the links.

>>37395

mods have to delete it as any muslim can click it

>>37424

wrong

Pay attention to Rule 2.

>>37426

This is not following the sunnah of the rasul (صلى الله عليه و سلم)

You can make things up according to your desire but you will pay for this.

>>37424

What is there? Nobody here had not seen deep necklines, not to mention real boobs?

The problem of such shows is not the problem of Islam, but the problem of the albanians themselves.

And they have a lot of problems. For example, the same Albanian mafia supports AKSh(Albanian National Army) and at the same time engages in drug and prostitutes trafficking to Europe.

Do you think this moral decline is pleasing to Albanian Catholics and Orthodox?

I do not think so. As it is rightly noted, Albania was for a long time under the communist regime of Enver Hoxha, an authoritarian left dictator who fought against both Islam and Christianity.

The communist regimes left behind moral mores and morals in the Balkans and in Eastern Europe. And now this neo-Marxism has captured Western Europe. Do you think that because of kindness and stupidity the left provide shelter to Middle Eastern refugees? No, this is a plan to seduce Muslims and turn you all into the same Albanians.

>>37429

His point is correct that these muslims have been secularized by kuffar sadly, but this does not justify showing sexual videos exposing their sin.

>>37430

Refugees porn, that filled porn hubs, is a sexual content. There is not even a nipples in this show, so it's not even erotic.

In the heat of the Balkans, I now see girls in a bathing suit on the streets and in public transport, and I am used to nothing.

First, a person posts anime pictures, where the very purpose of the picture is sexualization. Then he calmly looks at the Albanian news with deep cutouts of clothes in the breast area. And then it does not excite even refugees porn.

Yes, even in Egypt, I have already seen anime on their cable channels. Humanity is now growing sexual callus on this, and Muslim world is no exception. Golden Billion need to reduce the birth rate for the organization of their consumption of resources. Muslims in Europe and Russia already have down their fertility rates, and what will happen in a couple of generations after?

It is necessary to fight not with the Albanian women, who open part of their breast, but with those that now lead the world: Soros, Rothshilds and other "golden jews".

>>37432

Still haram no matter what you are used to.

>>37433

Anime and manga are also haram. And I'm just tired. You can beat a couple of Hasidim, but this is only a way to lose steam, it has no consequences. There are no consequences any statements, acts of intimidation, or vice versa charity. For now, the leadership of the “golden billion” is safe and no one can do anything and make them fear the wrath of God.

>>37433

The Game of Thrones is haram too, but it was watched by millions of Muslims.

>>37432

>Refugees porn,

The most ugly and dirty consequence of war in Syria with Libya and what resulting of arab migration to Europe.

>>37435

>>37437

Does their sin make it halal now? No, it's still haram and thus should be deleted from this board.

>>37395

We definitely shouldn't tolerate blatantly pornographic stuff on here.

>>37439

It's about amator refugees porn. Ugly and disgysting thing. About Sophia Leoni and other latin-americans and lebanesse christian arab women what played muslims I know.

>>37444

Albanian news is not pornography and not erotic. It is on the verge, but not yet erotic.

The problem is not in them, but in what is behind this and to lead the "Albanization" of Muslims. And this is happening not only in Europe.

>>37446

Internet in general is a very dirty and bad thing. 90% is a cesspool for the waste of human unwillingness to think and analyze.

I was born in the early 80s, in Eastern Europe, and I still remember the time without the global Internet. People really were smarter, interested in scientific, religios and art things, really study that.

Internet dulls and limits. If you want to keep the remnants of your mind and dignity - do not go to the Internet.

And yes, the anime is haram, it dulls a person very much.

>>37446

I have an eidetic memory. I remember almost everything I've heard or seen in the past four years. I came under artillery shelling of our city, as a result: a concussion with such consequences and a prosthetic leg from the hip.

>>37445

I remember a few years ago the outrage at Gulf men going to refugee camps for second and third and fourth wives. We needed more muslims to do the same. These women should be taken as second wives not be reduced to porn for money and male companion.

>>37445

Some is real, most is latinas, gypsies, and others wearing hijab.

https://www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/2018-05/sexisms-refugeeporn-refugees-pornography-germany-analysis

>>37461

The best help for men is education/vocational training. The best help for a 18+ year refugee woman is marriage to muslim man with a job who can provide for her and children. Let’s be real here. These women dont need four year degrees at this point and they dont need to be sex objects on a campus either. Not everyone needs a damn degree.

>>37462

Most people don't need a degree, it's just pushed by shayateen to get people in debt.

>>37462

>Not everyone needs a damn degree.

True. People who strive to be burger flippers or garbage collectors don't need a degree. There's no point to education if you're not going to use it.

>>37465

>strive to be…

>strive

Maybe unintentional but this is really insulting to blue collar people such as myself and this kind of stigma is what perpetuates useless degrees and the riba associated with them.

>>37466

There is no such thing as a useless degree. Do you know what getting a bachelor's degree shows people? It shows that you are capable of putting up with the most obnoxious, demanding people on the planet - pre-grad college professors. If you can put up with them and still finish the race, then you can put up with any boss, any customer, any co-worker.

>>37467

That’s some rationalization you got there. What you are describing is the role High School in the US traditionally filled. College was for STEMs and rich scions to network until the ‘civil rights movement’ and college loan racket intersected into a predatory nexus.

Nowadays going to college for a non-STEM shows you are willing to go into debt and be a good goy who has “experiences” of the sexual and intoxicant variety. And even many STEM degrees are increasingly useless: example even a MS in Chem is useless whereas a BS in Chem Engineering is useful. The MS in Chem will be out-earned and out-benefitted by a blue collar worker.

>>37468

whoa there mr. big pharmaceutical investor dude

>>37468

This, any non engineering or compsci degree is useless, with the exception of accounting and math related fields. Also I respect blue collar trades, they are directly practical unlike some degrees which take years to complete + years of experience to be an actual professional. I know of a construction worker who built his own house simple from learning in the field how it was built. Women generally don't enter these, now if she has a talent for science then sure not problem, but most women will not be able to finish a bachelors and are better spending their 20s with their husband, barefoot and pregnant.

>>37467

>Do you know what getting a bachelor's degree shows people?

That you're a sucker who isn't self-driven enough to teach themselves?

Akh, you get infinitely more experience by actually going and doing the job than taking some course that still relies on material from a decade ago.

You're literally using the same line of reasoning as people who say you can't just marry someone because you have to find out if you're 'sexually compatible', sex isn't complex, you can figure it out when you want to actually do something with it (i.e: getting married).

>>37471

No, compsci degrees are literally useless, you have an internet connection, use it.

>>37497

Spoken like an uneducated tryhard who has never even set foot on a college campus. There is a world of difference between "smart" and "educated". "Smart" will only get you so far in life. "Educated" opens endless possibilities.

>>37499

Lol now the argument shifts to “you need a college degree to get a job that arbitrarily requires a degree in a random subject.” Well yes. The degree is still useless in and of itself. There are sociology majors with $200k debt. Lab Chemists with masters make $19 an hour. Wake up.

>>37501

My boss has a psychology degree but thats not why he is my boss. He is a master electrician who wasted 4 years of his life before getting into a trade.

>>37500

>Of course I never went to uni

It shows.

>>37501

If money is your goal in life, then your life is extremely sad.

>>37503

>spend 4 years in college taking religious studies with a minor in Arab studies

<become an Imam, teaching thousands of Muslims

>lololol u wasted moneys

Yes, goy … yeeessss … don't educate yourself. It's a total waste! Goood goy.

>>37505

Since when did you need debt to study under a alim?

>>37506

Things cost money. Welcome to the real world.

>>37505

For the cost of one semester at a christian university to learn Islam from comparative religionists ie Orientalists you could be at Al-Azhar for 5 years.

>>37507

You're just finding any excuse to get yourself in debt at this point, throw yourself into hell for all I care, don't drag others down with you.

No, you absolutely don't need to get into debt to study under a alim, to make it such would be antithetical to Islam, it's less than 1000 quid a year.

>>37509

Why do you think college = debt? Why do you buy into the lies?

>>37508

How do you know? How could you possibly know what college costs if you've been so scared of it by lies from those who seek to keep you ignorant?

>>37510

Because I have never known a single person in my life who's both gone to college and in debt.

I buy into my 'lies' because I was earning 30k at the age of 17 specifically because I never relied on the useless education system to teach me.

>>37511

How does not going to university = ignorance when I have access to a library Lagides would envy?

>>37512

Your anecdote != data.

>I was earning 30k

So, money is all you care about? Sad.

>>37513

It is clear to me that even though you have access to such a library, nobody ever taught you how to use it because you still clearly believe the lie that going to college means forever debt. Guess who started that lie …

>>37515

1] I'm not a boomer

2] That's not an argument.

ITT: Jews demanding Muslims not go to school.

>>37517

Not helpful.

>>37517

Albanization of muslims as is, and this process is going for last hundred - two hundred years.

>>37521

>No one said that.

Literally the only argument against going to school is "I made X money without it." That means money is the only goal of the uneducated.

>the student debt crisis isn't real right?

Oh, no, it's real … but not for the reason you will claim.

>Boomer is a mentality

No it isn't. We're not /pol/. We don't change the definition of word to suit our fee-fees.

>>37522

>Literally the only argument against going to school is "I made X money without it."

Wrong, my argument is that the internet has obseleted university for anything that doesn't require specialised machinery (inshallah we can fix that too).

>Oh, no, it's real … but not for the reason you will claim.

The reason is irrelevant, the point is that going to uni is a sure fire way to end up with debt.

>We don't change the definition of word to suit our fee-fees.

You're on 8chan, we use 8chan words. If you're here you should know what boomer means and if you don't you should be willing to learn.

>>37523

>the internet has obseleted university

No, it hasn't.

>The reason is irrelevant

Oh, kid … no it isn't.

>we use 8chan words

That proves that you don't believe in education and have just proven me right.

>>37526

If you were educated, then you would know that /islam/ strives to separate itself from 8chan. But, you're not educated. It shows.

>>37528

>then you would know that /islam/ strives to separate itself from 8chan

Lol says who?

>>37529

Says this entire board. How new are you?

>>37530

>One guy

>This entire board

I've been here for years buddy

Anyway, that was a good conversation and I thank you all for it.

>>37498

t.luddite

>>37520

>Albanization

>>37524

hearty chuckle

>>37527

Do you think Habib is the perfect muslim? He is a regular visitor to Moscow clubs and many times fell for treason to his muslim wife with natashkas.

>>37544

>Do you think Habib is the perfect muslim?

Nope, but he's pretty good. Stop slandering your brother.

>>37545

And yes, to engage in a half-naked scuffle for fun the giaours is already kufr.

>>37549

Obviously not, why do you feel the need to inspect every inch of a person? How do you even know he was married when he did that? Besides I don't speak vodka.

>>37550

Are you insane? It might be sinful but to say that it's kufr is absurd.

>>37554

I conceed that it isn't slander, but I don't see why you wish to destroy this man's name.

>>37555

I'm not trying to destroy anything, just pointed to the fact. Connor, by the way, is a loyal family man, despite the image of the Irish bastard in this business. Another person has the image of a muslim in this vicious industry of giaour, and in life he is a lover of nightclubs and giaour girls what not related to his with marriage.

This is an extra confirmation of the fake nature of these MMA and other similar entertainment of jews and giaours. Young muslims need to take an example not from there, but from stories about the Prophet and his associates, from stories of modern muslims that work and succeed for the ummah for Islam(scien, and do not earn money for nightclubs and whores in the cage for gladiators.

An example for Muslims should not those who earn themselves money in this hypocritical industry of the yawns and spend them on the nightmares and mistresses on the side, but the Prophet and his associates or those Muslims who really work for the ummah(scientists and those who help needy brothers and sisters in this times of war).

>>37556

>I'm not trying to destroy anything, just pointed to the fact

Facts come with baggage, this is the same argument /pol/acks use when they bring up black crime statistics. A Muslim's private shortcomings are none of your business. As for Connor, the best kafir is still below the worst Muslim in terms of morality.

>>37557

Do you like Hitler and his "national-socialism"?

>>37556

>reeking of cucktianity worldview

Khabib can have three more wives. He is allowed to court other women in a manner he sees fit and if he goes too far ie nudes that is between him and Allah, you should hide a brother’s sins.

>>37556

In public Khabib is a great role model for muslims and if he has a weakness for xian gawur whores then that is not our concern as he doesnt publicize this sin, you do, and as a result you share in it. May Allah take the sins of Khabib you spread on the internet and put them on your head instead.

>>37562

>>37563

It's not about his betrayal of his wife and his predilections for nightclubs, the fact is that hypocrites are set as an example. And, by the way, if this is all hidden, then the hypocrisy will completely devour the Muslim world. Hypocrisy is precisely the Albanization of Muslims.

I do not distinguish a Muslim from a hipster, such times have come.

And you can not worry, such a sin will not fall on my head. Treason in my family does not matter with a Muslim woman, a Buddhist or a Christian, it is a very serious sin and for him, unlike Habib, my father will beat me, not to mention the reaction of my father's bride.

I also wish Habib to have such a father-in-law and a father, not sycophants and "managers" as it is now. In general, I wish you all the same parents as mine.

>>37564

People should report your posts and ask the Board Owner if this is the appropriate board to dox muslim celebs. I don’t think it is.

>>37565

Selim II was muslim celeb too. But I do not think that this sultan should be imitated.

Nor do I think that it is necessary to imitate people with dubious sports and reputations who are involved in the giaour's entertainment.

This is just my opinion, which I share on the board. While Aga Khan is building hospitals and schools in Central Asia, Erdogan opposes the Albanization of Turkey, Hizb Ut Tahrir is trying to save the Uighurs from Chinese red fascism, for you the example of a Muslim is a showman-fighter that fights to earn money for nightclubs and natashkas.

>>37561

Nationalism and genocide contradict Islam, so of course not.

>>37566

>Muslim showman fighter

Yeah. That’s what Muhammad Ali was and through him representing Islam thousands of people were guided. Sports are important. And soccer and boxing two ways people that dont know any muslims get to see muslims as real people they can relate to not just zio-crusader caricatures.

>>37549

>>37550

>>37554

>>37556

exposing sins is haram brother, please delete this

>>37556

I agree but khabib is doing it maybe because his father and family is under risk of torture

>>37566

aga khan and erdogan are kuffar

>>37565

"Doxxing" is forbidden, but public information is not.

>>37572

Exposing a regretted sin is haram. Exposing a willful sin is not.

Indeed, those who like that immorality should be spread [or publicized] among those who have believed will have a painful punishment in this world and the Hereafter. [4:19]

>>37575

By definition a sin is not such if it is not willful.

This distinction you have drawn isn't reflected in your daleel.

>>37568

> Muhammad Ali was and through him representing Islam

Muhammad Ali represent "Black Islam". Nation of "Islam" is a kuffar racist avtoritary cult with belief in reeincarnation and that white people was made by Iblis.

>>37573

Did Habib ask for naked photos of an unfamiliar to him giaour girl and regular go to nightclubs because his family was threatened?

>>37577

How can a married man not intentionally write to an unfamiliar woman so that she sent him his naked photos?

>>37573

Sorry, did not immediately understand. His father is his manager, together they just make money with it. Money is not bad, but I think such earnings are not very worthy.

I myself am from the Caucasus, I was born and spent my childhood there, but there is a professional sport, the Olympic ring, and there is an entertainment industry, and MMA with modern boxing is entertainment.

Let the caucasian judo-grapplers and professional wrestlers fight on tatami and ring that perform in professional sports and get less money, but they are not participants of the show for the giaours.

>>37578

No, this is misguided. Muhammed Ali converted to sunnism later on in his life.

>>37579

I didn't say it was unintentional, I said that something is not a sin if it is unintentional which made the first part of the post I was replying to redundant.

>>37578

Muhammad Ali became Sunni and along with Malcolm X guided many American Africans to real Islam you ignorant fool. And i know people who flew to Kentucky for his janazah, it was a major event in both muslim and american society.

>>37582

> Muhammed Ali converted to sunnism later on in his life.

Later… But on ring in 60-70s he represented Nation of Islam and their racism and kufr.

>>37585

When he became Sunni he began end his boxing career.

>>37586

Sure, but everyone's got skeletons in their closet. I don't think we should be chastising people over things they turned their back on, especially if they're dead.

>>37586

So what? I was Buddhist before converting to Islam. Once shahadah is declared, the past ceases to matter.

>>37596

My grandfather was burhanist(buddhism+tengri pagan, Burhan is Buddha in uygurian and altay languages), grand-grandfather alive and now, and he is second or third akai of ulchey people in Far-East Russia and North China. Even muslim are in sansara and have own karma.

Where are you from, and how become muslim?

>>37596

Also, I think that buddhism isnt religion, it is philosophy and viewpoint on live and world like an Tao or Confucian teaching. You can be buddhist by phylosophy, and muslim, christian or tengrian by religion.

>>37598

Please stop spreading your tengri buddhist culture on this board. Gross. I am from a proper Christcuck background (High Anglican CoE) and although my family are pagan at least they had class about it and my background is vaguely abrahamic.

>>37575

How do you know he likes it to spread and does not regret it?

>>37580

ok based, but habib seems to really hate kadyrov

>>37599

no brother tengrism and buddhism is not compatible with islam

And whoever desires other than Islam as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers. 3:85

Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam. And those who were given the Scripture did not differ except after knowledge had come to them - out of jealous animosity between themselves. And whoever disbelieves in the verses of Allah , then indeed, Allah is swift in [taking] account. 3:19

>>37612

Let's not assume the worst brother, as muslims we must make excuses for our brother. Maybe he is forced into it we don't know. These shady business deals are full of crimes and violent threats. They often come for your family if you don't comply as well.

>>37608

Posting something on social media for the whole world to see would be the definition of ‘spreading it.’ Speaking about your sin and flaunting it openly in front of your friends is haram, and is a major sin. It is one of the ways of spreading immorality among the Muslims, encouraging evil and tempting others to do similar things. It also means that one does not take sin seriously and regards it as insignificant, and that the sinner is damaging his own reputation and exposing his honor to the slander of others.

>>37634

Oh these are public comments? I thought they were dms.

>>37637

I can't read Russian, so I really don't know.

>>37634

Open information, news:

https://peopletalk.ru/article/skandal-dnya-habib-nurmagomedov-flirtuet-v-vkontakte-s-drugoj-devushkoj/

>>37330

>Islam rejects this

The Quran doesn't condemn ethno-nationalism. Most countries in the world are "ethno-states", including muslim-majority ones.

>>37331

>slavery is halal

No retard; the Quran states that is should be gradually eliminated (e.g. 4:92, 5:89, 58:3).

>>37340

If you believe the Quran is the word of God you will not drink and consume what He prohibited.

>>37346

>>37342

Stop drinking.

>>37447

Neoliberal capitalism is turning millions of women into prostitutes every day. Every girl is told to go universities only to become low wage earners facing harassment. If liberals cared about women they wouldn't tell them that they should all compete for work with men.

>>37449

>do not go to the Internet

*posts on 8ch.net*

>>37467

>There is no such thing as a useless degree.

Culinary Arts

Fashion Design

Performing Arts

Parapsychology – various colleges

Psychology (mostly jewish bs)

Doctorate of Philosophy in Ufology – Melbourne University

The Phallus – Occidental College

Surfing Studies – Plymouth / Melbourne

Queer Musicology – UCLA

Star Trek – Georgetown University in Washington

Golf Management – University of Birmingham / Florida Gulf Coast University

Art History – various colleges

Sexuality

Fermentation Sciences

Comedy

to name a few.

https://mentalfloss.com/article/52545/33-unusual-majors-your-college-probably-didnt-offer

>>37566

>Aga Khan

>Hizb Ut Tahrir

Heretics and frauds.

>>37598

Islam is about following the truth and reason not tradition. Pagans can't prove that their beliefs are any better than another pagan half-way round the world because culture is relative, truth is absolute.

>>37648

>Culinary Arts

Professional Chef

>Fashion Design

Costume designer for films/plays.

>Performing Arts

Working in film/stage.

>Parapsychology – various colleges

Teaching/Professorship

>Psychology (mostly jewish bs)

You do realize that the first mental hospital in the world was built by Muslims, right? Psychology is not "Jewish bs".

>Doctorate of Philosophy in Ufology - Melbourne University

Field work for SETI

>The Phallus – Occidental College

That's a course, not a degree.

>Surfing Studies – Plymouth / Melbourne

You can earn a lot of money teaching tourists how to surf. Safety regulations require a degree.

>Queer Musicology – UCLA

That's a course, not a degree

>Star Trek – Georgetown University in Washington

That's a course, not a degree

>Golf Management – University of Birmingham / Florida Gulf Coast University

That's a subset of Hotel Management and is very useful in Florida

>Art History – various colleges

Teaching/Professorship

>Sexuality

That is a subset of psychology and can be used for forensic sciences.

>Fermentation Sciences

Subset of Chemistry. Developing new foods isn't useless.

>Comedy

The comedic arts are a subset of performing arts and is a great way to get your foot in the door of the film/theater industry.

>>37651

>>37648

Basically, the point is: Just because YOU find it useless doesn't mean it IS useless. You may find no use in becoming an actor, but thousands of Thespians and SAG members completely disagree with you. Not to mention the tens of thousands of electricians, stunt men, make-up artists, CGI programmers, animators, and caterers who work in the film industry. "STEM" is not the end-all-be-all of job worthiness.

>>37651

>>37652

Good posts that present a convincing argument tbh

>>37655

If you already know you're going to be a professional in a specific field, then there are courses you will take toward that profession. Why don't you understand that? If you have no plans to be a Psychologist, then you wouldn't bother taking Psych courses. Derp.

That doesn't mean they're useless to everyone. They're just useless to YOU. Well, I got news for you, kiddo: the Universe doesn't revolve around you and your special snowflake needs.

>>37643

> the Quran states that is should be gradually eliminated (e.g. 4:92, 5:89, 58:3).

None of the verses you quoted say this though, they say that the freeing of a slave can serve as expiation for a crime, like blood money.

>>37643

Hey genius if slavery was abolished then how could these verses apply?

>do zihar, free a slave for atonement

>break oath, free a slave for atonement

>kill muslim by accident, free a slave for atonement

If these sins can be forgiven by the freeing of a slave that means,

1. we are allowed to own slaves

2. owning them will remain relevant until the day of judgement since the quran will remain relevant for all times and all places

denying this makes you a kaffir because you deny that the quran is good for all times and are also making haram what Allah made halal and are trying to block muslims from a blessing Allah has given them to be able to remove sins by freeing slaves in the first place!! you cannot free slaves if slavery is abolished !!

this implies slavery will still happen through war with the kuffar and such

many verses deal with slavery of the kuffar captured in war!!

Do not twist the quran for your twisted aqeedah

>>37649

whats wrong with hizb u tahrir , agha khan is an actual kafir they are just deviated muslims

>>37672

Isn't Islamic slavery different than chattel slavery? Slaves in Islamic empires owned property and had a right to education–in many ways they had more liberty than many poor people throughout Western civilization.

>>37676

They're not comparable in practice, but kuffar want to project their crimes on everyone else, and then have the audacity to say they achieved the abolishment of slavery after getting rich off it and then when no longer needing it replacing it with what is effectively slave labour in china and other poor countries, or instead of taking war captives they just murder them all in bombings, as if that's an advancement in ethics.

>>37676

>>37677

In shariah slaves are prisoners of war that join the households of families and are given rights and dignity. The slaves can also do productive work and earn money for themselves. The non-muslims torture their prisoners of war and keep them in cages and they are not allowed to do anything productive.

>>37679

what about sex slaves?

>>37680

Family members whose children and selves will be accepted as legitimate and honored, as opposed to kuff cumdumps that will be cheated on with thai hookers, pressured into aborting their kids and/or abandoned to desperately hunt for some mentally disturbed cuck to take care of her bastard child.

>>37680

You mean a slave woman that a head of household has relations with? What about them? I guess Thomas Jefferson had “sex slaves.”

>>37680

>sex slaves

Many Muslim rulers kept concubines in luxurious harems, but each woman was very well provided for; their children may not have been considered legitimate heirs but they weren't treated as outcasts either.

>>37643

Slavery is not morally wrong, it was just corrupted by the USA the same way the USA has now corrupted marriage. The problem with American slavery is more blacks should have been freed and more whites should have been slaves. Race based slavery is retarded.

>>37676

yes it's different we are not barbarian christians we treat our slaves with their full rights and cannot harm them or overburden them, and they must eat and wear the same level as their owner

>>37680

Morally superior to fornication with "girlfriends" as nothing guarantees the "gf" that the man will stay if he impregnates her, and nothing guarantees her physical safety and provision. Many lost youth would be avoided if islamic slavery would be revived.

>>37685

This, muslims don't enslave based on race.

>>37685

>Race based slavery is retarded.

But there arabs and bantu blacks selled slaves to New World. Also, east slavs and volga finns was slaves more then blacks in Russian Empire, it was called "krepostnichestvo", so slavery can be and not racial.

>>37685

What about the Afghani tradition of bacha bazi–boy prostitutes–surely that can't be sanctioned under Shariah.

>>37689

>muslims don't enslave based on race.

Orthodox christians too. My ancestor was changed by hunt-dogs in the second half of 18th, he was took away from mom at age 12 and with others childs of slaves sent from Don to Karelia. Also our surname is a name of prisk where he worked until czar cancel "krepostnichestvo", former slaves was given surnames by there worked or by surname of their master.

>>37692

This is a slanderous meme actually, taliban and any other muslim kills those homosexuals in afghanistan. Bacha bazi is a culture practicied by secular afghans, who were backed then by the communists and today by the americans. Your american soldiers are defending pedophilic homosexuality in afghanistan. Documentaries show american commanders ignore when their puppet afghan army generals kidnap boys tie them up and rape them during many days.

>>37692

That incurs death penalty under sharia. That is what soviet/american afghans do. Not real afghans.

>>37691

Arabs took white, brown, and black slaves as available. Bantu tribes would have surely done the same but they were landlocked in an all black region. The only weirdos to try to make slavery a permanent heritable condition of a people were western whites.

>>37692

>t. traditional church-catamite

>>37692

The practice of bacha bazi by warlords was one of the key factors in Mullah Omar mobilizing the Taliban. Reportedly, in early 1994, Omar led 30 men armed with 16 rifles to free two young girls who had been kidnapped and raped by a warlord, hanging him from a tank gun barrel. Another instance arose when in 1994, a few months before the Taliban took control of Kandahar, two militia commanders confronted each other over a young boy whom they both wanted to sodomize. In the ensuing fight, Omar's group freed the boy; appeals soon flooded in for Omar to intercede in other disputes. His movement gained momentum through the year and he quickly gathered recruits from Islamic schools totaling 12,000 by the year's end with some Pakistani volunteers. By November 1994, Mullah Omar's movement managed to capture the whole of the Kandahar Province and then captured Herat in September 1995. Although some accounts estimated that by the spring of 1995 he had already taken 12 of the 31 provinces in Afghanistan.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/10/28/bacha-bazi-an-afghan-tragedy/

>>37699

Yeah like the curse of ham innit.

>>37676

It's more similar to indentured servitude. Not exactly but close enough.

>>37685

Suppose my lawful concubines and I came to arrangement to keep a few "bulls" and eunuchs in the harem, how could that work?

>>37699

Former slaves of Russian Empire(russians, ukranians, belorussians, volga-finnish nations) did October revolution and Russian Civil war against russian nobleity(other russians, tatars, russian-germans). But why black americans don't blame for slavery bantu, what selled their ancestors to New World?

>>37730

Many African Americans are disconnected from their roots

>>37749

Sadly many black brothers have muslim names like khilafa or abdullah but they forgot their roots of muslim slave. They should be more humble and come back to islam, not nation of islam crap or hip hop.

>>37372

The sad thing is that those pepes are not palestinian, and the palestinians are still living in horrible conditions.

>>37679

>In shariah slaves are prisoners of war

Including long distance slaver raids upon populations that don't even know who assaults them. Is this somehow above other cultures' acquisition of slaves?

>The non-muslims torture their prisoners

Is removal of genitals - testicles, penis and all - preferable to "torture" in "other cultures", whatever that means? You think PoVs didn't get worked outside of Islam? To begin with a prisoner can be compelled to work on account of being a prisoner serving his time, as in being condemned for something specific. That is encompassed within most cultures' idea of imprisonment/punishment.

>>37677

>abolishment of slavery after getting rich off it and then when no longer needing it replacing it with labour in china

>instead of taking war captives they just murder them all in bombings

Is this brazen lying or legitimate display of your level of knowledge?