8b355f No.28316
what does islam say about -king off?
i know its forbidden but almost everyone does it and how do we deal with having to ghusl again everyother day?
it makes praying very tedious
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8b355f No.28318
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2441cf No.28319
>almost everyone does it
yeah it's pretty difficult to avoid these days unfortunately, especially in the west. I don't really know what to say about this.
>how do we deal with having to ghusl again everyother day? it makes praying very tedious
A ghusl can just be a shower that takes a couple of minutes.
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8b355f No.28320
>>28319
dont you actually have to do wudu after/during the ghusl?
popping into the shower every time you jo is pretty tedious if you ask any sane person
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2441cf No.28322
>>28320
Technically the "bare minimum" for it to be valid is to have intention to make ghusl and wash your entire body(incl. rinsing the nose and mouth) with water. See eg
https://islamqa.info/en/83172
>popping into the shower every time you jo is pretty tedious if you ask any sane person
I don't think most people "jo" several times per day.
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d028b6 No.28324
It's not forbidden, but it is best to avoid especially if done in conjunction with viewing pornography. Otherwise, it's really not that big of a deal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_masturbation#Sahabah_view
>>28320
If you're fapping so much that taking a shower ever time is inconvenient, then you have deeper problems than simple masturbation.
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8b355f No.28329
>>28324
>taking a shower every other day not counting regular showers is not inconvinient
hmm
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8b355f No.28351
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d028b6 No.28367
>>28351
What more did you need?
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8b355f No.28371
>>28329
>>28367
are you the guy calling me out in the other thread?
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d028b6 No.28376
>>28371
What other thread? I'm just wondering what more you needed to know about masturbation and showering.
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8b355f No.28378
>>28329
>>28376
never mind then i mean showering every time you jack off , just doing minimum ghusl even is pretty tedious like showering every other day not even counting regular non ghusl showers makes the whole ordeal kind of insane
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d028b6 No.28380
>>28378
Well, maybe you should stop fapping so much if it becomes an inconvenience.
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8b355f No.28382
>>28380
wow why didnt i think of that
in all seriousness though i have tried for multiple years and have failed and think many people my/our age have the same problem
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d028b6 No.28389
>>28382
Have you considered getting married?
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8b355f No.28391
>>28389
you cant just marry everyone off for wanting to jerk off come on now
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d028b6 No.28392
>>28391
No no no … I mean if it's becoming a problem. Yes, all men jack off. It's just part of the way we are. But if it's a problem, why not consider marriage?
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2441cf No.28393
>>28391
>you cant just marry everyone off for wanting to jerk off come on now
Technically it's marriage because he doesn't want to jerk off.
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8b355f No.28396
>>28393
kek
>>28392
its virtually a problem for all younf men since age 13 do you want to marry off all young men i dont understand, i have not and will not consider marriage anytime soon
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d028b6 No.28399
>>28396
Marriage is a cornerstone of Muslim life. You should consider it.
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8b355f No.28403
>>28399
ive thought about it and have too much goign on atm and for a few years to come to even think about it now please stop marrying me off and answer the question
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d028b6 No.28408
>>28403
What was the question that hasn't been answered?
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8b355f No.28411
>>28408
how am i supposed to ghusl so much and keep up with prayers , also does gusul without doing wudu count ?
im going to need source for second question
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d028b6 No.28422
>>28411
>how am i supposed to ghusl so much and keep up with prayers
Is fapping more important than prayers? Stop fapping so much. Stop trying to find loopholes in what is obligatory and stop trying to make excuses for not doing it.
https://islamqa.info/en/99543
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1b45f0 No.28432
>>28324
>it is not forbidden
>posts wikipedia
>it is stated right under the out-of-context hadiths that it is forbidden
Just…
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c46cee No.28441
>>28432
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES
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2441cf No.28442
>>28324
zahiriyya vs nofap, who would win?
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49f5a1 No.28443
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2441cf No.28444
>>28443
A madhab that is often associated with ibn Hazm(whose view was cited in the wiki article). Search for zahiri maddhab and wikipedia has an overview. It basically doesn't exist anymore, rather we have the four schools(hanafi, hanbali, shafi, maliki).
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139bd5 No.28459
>>28322 (checked)
>I don't think most people "jo" several times per day.
You'd be suprised, I've had friends tell me they've done in excess of 6 in one day.
>>28324
>especially if done in conjunction with viewing pornography
The only place where you have room to argue is masturbation, but pornography is categorically haram and is the cause of so much strife for people from erectile dysfunction to just general anxiety.
>>28382
Try /r/MuslimNoFap it helps alot, you've got to keep trying. Start with a 1 day gap, then a 2 day gap then keep going until you get to 7 then past that you can go indefinitely. You have to have a goal, like something you really want to win the favour of God for I find it helps alot.
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