59cdde No.21318 [Last50 Posts]
I spent some time browsing this subreddit pretty intently yesterday afternoon and again this morning. Some observations:
Bismillah.
1.) They're as far as I saw 100% atheist, I didn't see any theistic "ex-moose" as they call one another. I did see them mocking those kinds though, suggesting that they have a fringe existence. It's possible that these are just people "brought low" since the issue is simply iman, not adopting a new creed.
2.) Some are proud murtadeen, others are munafiqeen that are still pretending to be muslim to their families and communities. One even claimed to pray 2 rakats of tarawih then go to the pub and come back for witr.
3.) Pity party. One of their mods was asking r/atheism for "support" during ramadan.
>Having to wake up early in the morning before sunset (3-4 am) to eat before dawn leading to a significant disruption of the circadian rhythm
>The fast itself can lead to dehydration in the hot summer weather and involves hypoglycaemia,
>The evening breaking of fast (iftar) is normally a large meal, lavish if affordable and plays havoc with the digestive system
>The extra prayers at late night (Taraweeh) are extremely long (1-1.5 hours) and involve prolonged periods of standing. This time of the year these would be held at around 10pm leaving only 4-5 hours to sleep until the cycle repeats itself for the next fast.
WEW LAD
4.) Weird hangers-on. Roughly 30% of the commentariat were "never moose", these are kuffar asliyin atheists that are fascinated with murtadeen. They trash christianity and the other 70% trash Islam, they swap stories etc.
5.) They're still attached to Islam and their ethnic groups, albeit in antisocial and unhealthy ways. Yes, a few active users have come back to Islam, hopefully more just stop logging in and return silently. R/exmuslim dwarfs r/exchristian, it is the largest "ex" subreddit. These people want their own atheist ummah. Of interest: there is literally no one active at r/exjudaism. If Islam came with a passport and cash there would probably be no active users at exmuslim either - keep that in mind.
6.) A murtad from Sunni Islam is of course the crown jewel for shaytan. I'll say slightly over half of r/exmuslim was raised Sunni. There is disproportionately outsized representation of those raised Ahmadi and Shia.
7.) Reasons for disbelieving: emotional, not rational. They like rap music and dislike being called terrorist. They like to swear and get drunk (both common discussion points) and dislike having to stand while they pray and fast. They support modern liberalism and dislike the Prophet saws for not being liberal enough. They like gays and having gay sex, they dislike rules about sex only within marriage and only with the opposite gender. One person said "Islam forbids adoption." even though that is a twisted falsehood. They are SJW on every possible issue except Islam where they go full /pol/tier - ie, they have absolutely no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
One of their head honchos is particularly jealous for Zayd ra and his marriage to Zaynab (raa). He thinks Zayd got the short end of the stick when the Prophet married Zaynab. The fact is The Prophet arranged their marriage and we don't know why they divorced after a year - the story of the doorway is spurious. Allah used their marriage and divorce to teach the community about obeying Allah, ignoring class background (Zaynab wealthy, Zayd humble), and then that adoptive fathers can marry their adopted son's exs. Zayd enjoyed six wives during his life, many were arranged on his behalf by the Prophet and he bore the Prophet no ill will, the concept never even crossed his mind, and died as a shaheed mujahid. But some foulmouthed snarky clown on reddit is pretending to be offended on his behalf, give me a break, Zayd would have literally killed him.
8.) They like to eat bacon and ham sandwiches, now that they embrace apostasy they like to take pictures of their bacon sandwiches and share them with eachother.
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6ff760 No.21321
Fasting is only hard if you suck at it. Put down the samosas and eat more wholesome foods. If these people are too stupid to try fasting properly, and too lazy to try without spouting fake science, they aren't worth our time. low-carb diets make fasting easy. Bulletproof coffee feels like cheating
At least /r/Islam is good.
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e2e8a4 No.21322
The fact that it's the most active ex board isn't surprising, as the other major faiths have been largely neutered by modernity at this point. Islam still exists as a counter to scientism, so being "ex"Islam even in the negative still functions as a source of identity.
Any entity that defines itself as anti-X—that defines itself against, rather than for something—has an abiding interest in X continuing to exist.
The opposite of love is not hate, it is indifference. I am more concerned when someone is at a point where they don't care to identify as "ex". These people may still return to the truth, insha'Allah. So it's important to be careful in how we interact with these people, despite the rude things some of them may write or say.
>At least /r/Islam is good.
r/islam has a large chunk of very "progressive" (mostly female) users, and will silently censor valuable posts by downvoting en masse.
But it's still worth checking out. It's probably the most active Islam boards and shares insights into the state of young Muslims in the west.
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59cdde No.21323
Also, beware of fakes. During the election this one popped up on the_donald. Every other post was a /pol/ meme despite claiming to be a "19 year old muslim girl." Since the election the user has been inactive too.
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Trump has finally inspired me to leave Islam
u/exmuslimmaga
I have internalized this all my life and just recently I had joined a feminist group on campus where there were a surprising number of Trump supporters, who have helped me through this. While they didn't push me to take off my hajib and renounce Islam, Ive decided to do it myself. My parents have not assimilated. None of my "friends" from mosque have either. I want to be a doctor, I want to have sex, I want to walk around town without a male chaperone. None of these things are permitted. Let me be clear, no muslim girl is wearing a hajib by choice. They know that if they're caught without one, they WILL be punished. My parents will probobly disown me when they find out, but fuck it.
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f95d37 No.21324
This is some of the stupidest stuff I've ever seen about why people would leave/change religion.
>It was easy when I was younger and living in Dubai where everyone around me was religiously muslim and it becomes a communal thing but then I was living in Perú and everyone was Christian; enjoying alcohol made you part of the larger community. At that point following God didn't make sense. All my friends couldn't be wrong and/or bad people for liking alcohol
>When I was 16 I moved to Canada along with my family to finish my high school and I had to take a class in Philosophy. So, naturally, I started asking more philosophical questions as to why eating pork, drinking alcohol, avoiding pre-marital sex were wrong acts by their very nature. Yet again, the society around me condoned those seemingly wrong acts and nobody could provide me with a modern context for the immorality of those acts.
Because she moved to a christian country "following God doesn't make sense anymore." How is that any different than a Christian moving to a muslim country for work and immediately abandoning their religion.
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f95d37 No.21332
Get a load of this:
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In short, I left Islam thanks to depression. I was so sad and angry with my life that I started to hate God. And I knew that the best way to spite God was to question him. I started researching "why does Allah allow suffering to happen?" and I found myself scoffing at all the explanations I used to accept.
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Yes. I'm not an atheist, but I'm also not exactly very mainstream when it comes to religion. I don't want to be accused of being a witch or whatever, especially when people are lycnhed for disrespecti the prophet and burnt alive in brick kilns, and he police turn a blind eye to it.
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Are you a minority sect?
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My familly is muslim but I am very interested in esoteric/occult beliefs. Aka if I made it known oitaide the internet there is a very good chance simeone would actually accuse me of being a satanist.
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Critically evaluated the Qur'an and it's effects on my own Pakistani society. Realized it was all bullshit.
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d give books about philosophy and logic. After meeting him, I started to questioning Islam in my head. "Why apostates should be killed, while allah can punish them in the afterlife?" "Why such nice people who not believe will be sent to eternal burning hell?" "Why the fuck allah don't kill Ibliss in the first place, If allah knows what will Ibliss would done to humankind?" "Why only chained shaytaans only one month per year, why allah the omnipotent can chained or killed them all for good?" "Why having sex with a child or slaves or war captive is legal?"
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I left it for several reasons, but one of the main reasons was the fact that slavery is allowed in Islam and was practiced by Muhammad. Also the fact that your "reward" in heaven includes concubines. There's no way I could reconcile this acceptance and celebration of slavery with my personal morals and beliefs.
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They.Are.Just.Shitlibs.
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2fa977 No.21338
>Having to wake up early in the morning before sunset (3-4 am) to eat before dawn leading to a significant disruption of the circadian rhythm
Just change your sleep schedule, or don't eat suhoor at all. I didn't eat suhoor tuday.
>The fast itself can lead to dehydration in the hot summer weather and involves hypoglycaemia,
Okay? It won't cause death or anything.
>The evening breaking of fast (iftar) is normally a large meal, lavish if affordable and plays havoc with the digestive system
Then eat something wholesome and good, or don't eat a large meal.
>The extra prayers at late night (Taraweeh) are extremely long (1-1.5 hours) and involve prolonged periods of standing. This time of the year these would be held at around 10pm leaving only 4-5 hours to sleep until the cycle repeats itself for the next fast.
Okay? What is the problem?
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2fa977 No.21339
>>21338
Secondly, if you are sick and need to drink water to live, then you must drink.
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0ca557 No.21341
I'm a Christian and we have the same crap with apostates (on r/exchristian).
All of them try to be edgy, too. They are mostly pampered kids raised in the west, but they make such big victims out of themselves.
This is what 95% of the posts revolve around on both subreddits:
>waaaahhh my parents made me go to the masjid/church
>heh let's be edgy and defile the Qur'an/Bible
>our parents are oppressive bigots, I live in their house and they expect me to follow their rules?!?!?!
I almost feel sorry for them, but it's too much cringe.
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ff3467 No.21342
I don't get the fasting part. Intermediate fasting isn't that big of a deal. I've always eaten one large meal a day in the evening without realizing that I was "fasting". Fat fucks.
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df0e2e No.21343
What created the universe?
R/exmuslim: anyone but Allah lololol oh yeah, science.
Why are we here?
R/exmuslim: To do anything but worship Allah lolcatz
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df0e2e No.21344
>>21342
*intermittant. But yeah, ramadan food restrictions are IF + no water, that's it.
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59cdde No.21345
>>21341
I've had some fierce debates on 8ch with christians but I gotta say after browsing that subreddit I am so much more down with christians than atheists. Atheism is literally just a perfect storm of personality flaws and yes, they should be given head transplants, the lot of 'em.
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59cdde No.21346
I'm gonna let the Sun shine in this thread just a bit.
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Guys ittako Allah, I was atheist for 8months but I found the truth slowly by going to mosque with my father, my doubts were answered and I feel secure and complete after coming back to islam, my life was empty during the 8months I feel like I have wasted 8months from my life, my parent knew that I was atheist, and now I am Muslim they are happy and so am i
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I didn't come across r/exmuslims, but I did used to frequent a lot of websites former muslims which consisted of pretty much the same rhetoric and nonsensical hate. Oh the irony, I remember feeling annoyed with a lot of users on there. Most of them sounded like complaining teenagers and many used some of the foulest language I have ever seen. They used to whine because their parents forced them to pray or fast. They used to complain about racism (which I guess is reasonable) that occurs among fellow muslims. I strongly disagreed with all of the "islam is pure evil" crap because it was often one sided and they'd openly bash islam while lauding other religions, and many of them seemed to be anti-muslim people as well. To me, their atheism/agnosticism/whatever they were came off as hypocritical and more centered around self hate. I just couldn't understand it, it's one thing if you hate the religion but how can you wish death and destruction upon your own people? I even found someone there that said they wish they were lighter skinned and I was just like…okay haha. Then one day it just hit me. I was so annoyed by these people that I didn't realize that I was one of them myself. I was a young stupid teenager, just like they were. I was someone that hated praying and fasting for no reason other than being lazy. I was someone that hated Islam based on the actions of other people instead of actually going in and studying the concepts myself. I guess I still had some sort of pride for my culture and heritage left in me at that point in time after all.
It then hit me, after all this time even though I still had some shred of beliefs left in me that I had never, ever once read an English translation of the Quran. I had read the arabic, sure, but I didn't understand a single word of it as I'm not an arab. Thankfully my parents kept an english copy of the Quran in the house so on a particularly depressing day for me I decided to sit down and read it. I felt amazed by what I was reading. I don't remember the verses so I'm just going to type what I remember stood out to me the strongest: The Quran described my behavior and actions to a tee, even calling those without proper beliefs 'lost in darkness' like I was. The Quran put forth sound and logical arguments for the existence of Allah. I felt fascinated with the verses that stated that Jesus (Isa) will bear witness on the day of judgement. The Quran described the hatred and contempt that muslims will receive from others well. The Quran destroyed racism and discrimination. The Quran clearly stated NOT to oppress or force others to convert. The Quran seemed to have an answer to all my questions. That's just all I can remember off the top of my head now.
I decided to check out all of the arguments that people critical of Islam had towards it. I don't want to list any specific names but I visited multiple "credible" websites that analyzed the so called errors and evils of islam as well as their arguments against it. I then read the arguments that Muslims proposed in return. This was the changing point for me. The only thing I felt unsure of were the hadiths at this point, but I found several Quranic verses that cleared up my doubts on them. I can post them if you like. To this day I don't really trust a lot of hadiths but I still trust the Quran's word fully.
Anyways, I found many of the arguments that critics of islam put forward to be cherrypicked or heavily paraphrased verses that twisted and altered the meanings considerable. They also seemed to be fond of using the actions of a small minority of muslims to smear everyone else. All I could think of was "islam is perfect, muslims aren't". Why is it so hard for them to see this? Not every muslim will be a role model. After all this, I soon felt a feeling that I hadn't felt in a long time. A feeling of peace and belonging. A feeling of tranquility. I suddenly felt the urge to pray. I got ready and prayed my first sincere prayer in years. And as I finished, all of the feelings of depression, sadness, anxiety, frustration…. they all disappeared. I was back where I belonged. I believed again.
And so here I am today. I try to say all of my 5 prayers on time and learn new surahs every summer. I'm certainly no model muslim but I do what I can. There's still a lot I want to improve myself on, but overall I'd say I've found peace with my inner self and I know that I will never, ever go back to the way I was before no matter what happens. I will be a proud muslim till the day I die.
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0ca557 No.21356
>>21345
>I've had some fierce debates on 8ch with christians but I gotta say after browsing that subreddit I am so much more down with christians than atheists
I've also debated a few Muslims here and on Reddit and they're usually very interesting.
With atheists, they'll debate back and forth several times and then resort to the strawmans and memes they've been taught about theists. It feels like talking with children, honestly.
>they should be given head transplants, the lot of 'em.
Do you live in the west? It sucks here especially because we have to deal with that crap IRL every day. If you're in a Muslim country, at least atheism isn't socially acceptable and you only see them online. :D
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b5ce64 No.21357
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5997a1 No.21362
>>21318
This is so accurate. Most of them would still be muslims if Islam allowed sex outside of marriage.
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c2dbe7 No.21365
>>21362
Technically sharia allows that in limited circumstances, but I don't see these little degenerates lining up to take captives on a battlefield anytime soon.
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c2dbe7 No.21367
>>21356
I'm not in a muslim country, I'm in an American blue state with a lot more muslims than the average. I'd be more comfortable in a deep red state pre-9/11… I was debating hard for Trump in my mosque (2 years ago?) and had a bunch of the guys convinced, then he went crazy so I still have egg in my beard. :^(
Trump vindicated all the leftist elements of the American islamic community and gave them legitimacy in our community. This new prestige for them won't be good for us or the greater US society in the longterm.
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c2dbe7 No.21371
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0ca557 No.21375
>>21371
kek
>>21367
>I'm not in a muslim country, I'm in an American blue state with a lot more muslims than the average.
Are you in the northeast? We have a ton of Muslims here.
>I was debating hard for Trump in my mosque (2 years ago?) and had a bunch of the guys convinced, then he went crazy so I still have egg in my beard. :^(
That sucks, man.
>Trump vindicated all the leftist elements of the American islamic community and gave them legitimacy in our community. This new prestige for them won't be good for us or the greater US society in the longterm.
Interesting. In my perspective, Muslims in the US tend to be more liberal than their counterparts in Europe (I've met them from both continents). Has this been your experience so far?
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271781 No.21627
>>21322
agreed on all accounts
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271781 No.21628
>>21338
Thirdly, you don't have to do taraweeh if you ain't tough enough
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271781 No.21630
>>21346
Well welcome back brother, clearly the hidaya(guidance) of Allah was with you. There's a good reason Islam tells us to be conscious of our own Ignorance
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6ae593 No.21633
>>21630
Just to be clear, that brother is not actually here, it was a copypaste from reddit.
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b389f5 No.21635
>>21338
Heck, how we do it in Malaysia is like this, during iftar, we drink water, eat a tamar, eat another fruit, have a snack (currypuffs commonly) perform the Maghrib prayer and then have something a bit heavy like rice or noodles. After tarawikh, then you can have a little extra before going to bed. And BTW, disturbing circadian rhythm? That's what the weekend mornings are for. Tarawih? Do 8 and then Witir. No one is forcing you to do the full 20.Did that and be home by 9:30 - 9:45.
TL;DR, it sounds like a whiner who can't take a day of fasting. Seriously, the Prophet and his Companions fought a war during Ramadan….what's his excuse? (except illness or old or pregnant women)
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896246 No.22762
Seen that sub. Found this one post from a guy who said he was from my country. The balant bullshit in his post was so infuriating that I basically wrote a huge essay about the actual history of my country and the coexistance of different types of people there. But after 1 hr, I deleted it. Cause I knew full well that they'll use post to farther slander Islam and my countryman. And I hate that feeling when I respond to something and someone else responds back with something really offensive and I feel like "If I didn't say that in the first place, they wouldn't reply back with that disgusting slander. Now I'm partially responsible."
Most of those guys lived their whole life in comfort and grew up to be entitled brats with never-ending teenage mentality. They never bothered to get a proper understanding of religion. And now they have this weird fetishisation of western "culture".
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8ca424 No.22765
>>22762
Are you talking about the evil post I saw there about the atheist in Thailand? That made my blood boil, honestly.
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896246 No.22769
>>22765
No, there was this guy from Bangladesh that was saying his parents gossiped about some hindus and apparently, it somehow showed that all muslims are hypocritical. Then he went on a rant to prove that everything good that ever happened in bengal happened because of hindus.
Completely disregarding the fact that mughal emperors peacefully ruled india for hundreds of years and their rule helped bring peace to the region and helped the poor people the most.
He also said some bullshit about 71 and how hindus were the main reason we won. While in reality, most of the hindus escaped to india as refugees and it was mainly Muslims who fought side by side, along with all other non-muslims, against the genocidal west pakistanis.
Honestly it pisses me off so much whenever I see someone using my countries history to spread bullshit. My people fought against the british, escaped to east bengal to avoid being massacred by hindus and gained independence in 71 by fighting against west pakistanis that had no respect for religion and used religion as a tool to further their own political goals. And even after all this stuff, we had little to no problems about coexisting with other people.
In our country we have a group of retards that want to sell off our country to pakistan and on the other end, there are retards who want to sell off our country to india. Both sides are retarded and despicable.
I don't want my country to be run by some traitors who are only muslim by name and has no problem with haram stuff and using religion as a tool. I also don't want my country to be run by the bastards who have no regard for family values and moral values and wants to destroy our code of ethics.
Honestly, the situation of the entire world is really bad at this moment. But we can do very little except being patient and do our duty.
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896246 No.23047
This is exactly the kind of shit that pisses me off.
>lives in UK
>has a 'boyfriend'
>apparently surrounded by degenerates
>still goes on an on about 'muh opressive family'
>'knowledge' about religion doesn't extend beyond what typical anti-Islam people on the internet spew all the time
>says such ridiculous bullshit that people wouldn't be surprised if this was a fake account
>typical entitled brat that constantly seeks approval from "enlightened-western-progressive-minded-people".
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74c0c9 No.23048
>>23047
>I'm learning about sikhi and will hopefully one day be able to fully convert.
Said.no.one.ever. This account is most likely a Punjabi Indian Sikh pretending to be a Pakistani muslim.
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896246 No.23049
>>23048
Yep, that or just your average atheist/hindu/whatever that constantly pushes their propaganda on the internet. It's mind boggling how someone can spend that much time on things like this.
May Allah help us all.
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e6113e No.23057
>when the users of r/exmuslim use the same arguments against Islam as the users of /pol/
I bet they never truly practiced Islam and they're nothing more than spoiled kids.
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b4970b No.23058
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All of these people have done major sins. Allah swt will take away your iman if you're ingrateful.
We need to remember to always be on guard against shaytan because we could become like these people who the shayateen play with, leading them by the nose if we're not careful to avoid the traps of the shayateen that is ON OUR PATH.
Shaytan said: Now, because Thou hast sent me astray, verily I shall lurk in ambush for them on Thy Right Path. 7:16
Shaytan , Allahs curse be upon him, doesn't just mislead into major sins or apostasy. He misleds into small sins, and can even use a good deed to distract you from a much better deed.
Even if shaytan knows he can't get you to the fire he wants you in the lowest of the seven heavens possible. Shaytan made tawaf around Adam pbuh, in hatred and thinks we are unworthy in everyway for the stewardship of this planet. He is bigoted against mankind and sees mankind similar to how a poltard sees non-white people. Racism is literally satanic, Adam pbuh, our beloved ancestor who sinned, repented, and was forgiven, was created from the various topsoils and sands of the Earth and we see this to this day in the skintones of man.
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ebf3ac No.25727
is this a typical exmuslim lmao
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648658 No.25728
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ccdc48 No.25748
>I've accidentally eaten pork before and it gave me diarrhea and I think I'm experiencing the same thing
It's almost as if there's a reason that pork is haram and shouldn't be eaten.
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7a4d69 No.25759
>>25748
>there's a reason
other than Allah will's it?
are you saying pork always causes diarrhea or immediate health problems? because no.
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412e00 No.25830
>>21332
CRAWLING IN MY SKIN
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3e27e0 No.25844
>>21318
why do you care what r*ddit thinks, brother?
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3e27e0 No.25847
Why do many ex-Muslims just begin to spite Muslims wherever possible? Such as supporting ban on Islam, supporting regimes that target Muslims such as Israel or Burma or Serbs and just endorsing any anti-Muslim view possible such as siding with far-right zionists.
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fffd82 No.25972
>>21332
> I started researching "why does Allah allow suffering to happen?" and I found myself scoffing at all the explanations I used to accept.
Just when you thought humanity could not sink to this level of stupidity… Waaahhhh why is there suffering?
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79157c No.26289
What about muslims who convert to christianity?
>Islam is bad it promotes patriarchy and Arab racial superiority!
>instead I'm going to worship a white scandinavian man as my god
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225b38 No.26322
>>21318
>R/exmuslim dwarfs r/exchristian, it is the largest "ex" subreddit.
r/exmormon is bigger
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3c9344 No.27377
>>26322
>r/exmormon is bigger
That's because Mormons are the Ahmadiyya of Christianity. They have crazy beliefs.
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41e64b No.27385
>>26289
Almost all Muslims who convert to Christianity used to be Muslims only by name,and the reason they convert is for cultural reasons as they actually fall for the "Christianity is more "superior" and "European" than Islam" meme
A Christian pastor in Turkey online said that the few Turkish Muslims who actually convert to Christianity don't even go to church at all.
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3c09ae No.27386
>>27385
>the few Turkish Muslims who actually convert to Christianity don't even go to church at all.
Sounds like they're quite devout. Not going to church is a time-honored Christian tradition.
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aee858 No.27387
>>27386
>Not going to church is a time-honored Christian tradition
Noice
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f8ee54 No.27389
>>26289
christianity doesn't worship a white scandinavian man, it worships an arab
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f40637 No.27789
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1a2e54 No.27793
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6459ef No.27804
>>27386
>>27387
>>27385
Isn't it kind of hypocritical to laugh at this? The rate of Muslims going to mosques is also rather low.
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aee858 No.27806
>>27804
There's nothing hypocritical about laughing at something amusing. There's a very old joke that I heard from my (Methodist) grandfather. Goes like this:
A Baptist and a Methodist were talking about Sundays and the Methodist asked, "Why do you go to church every Sunday?" The Baptist replied, "Because I hate crowds."
Having a sense of humor is important.
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6459ef No.27808
>>27806
You've got a point. The one about two Baptists in a liquor store is also pretty good. :P
Maybe I'm just really sentimental towards Christianity and Christians as a former Christian, but I think we as Muslims should better our relations with them. They're far better than atheists and Jews.
There's a lot of cultural Christians in the cohorts of Christianity that only identify with the religion because of culture, but the genuine Christians are usually very nice people.
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665537 No.27857
>>27387
This is the first time I saw someone reply with an anime pic here without it getting instantly deleted. Good job anon
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aee858 No.27871
>>27857
The board has no issue with non-lewd anime.
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6b2ae2 No.27874
>>27871
Based screencap. Still I find it wierd that almost all anime pics get deleted. What exactly Is permissable by board standards?
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9c5cc6 No.27881
>>27874
As long as it isn't lewd, it's fine.
Lewd here is defined as: sexually implicit (come hither eyes, etc), panty shots, yuri/yaoi, ecchi, scantily clad, etc. Any reasonable person can know before posting if the image they're about to use is "lewd". Spoilering the image doesn't matter. Is it arbitrary? Yes, but I don't think I should have to spell out every possible little permutation.
In general, anything that is questionable will be deleted. If reposted, then it will garner a short ban (24 hours). If reposted again, it will show me that it's an attempt at spamming and a 30 day ban will be in place, as that is the maximum allowed by the server - all permabans expire automatically after 30 days.
Just use your best judgement and you'll be fine. I'm not going to put a blanket ban on anime because, well, it's an image board. I don't expect people to use a lot of anime images, but every now and then is fine.
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ffa2e4 No.27896
>>27894
>>27895
>begome muzlim
>take over Islam
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aee858 No.27899
>>27894
This is not a board for LARPing.
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9ccd62 No.27901
>>27874
If every anime girl drawing was tolerated our 8chan masjid would probably become pic related fairly quickly.
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531594 No.28003
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91fcfe No.28080
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daac3c No.28856
>>22762
Despite being what you call a "westener", I feel sorry for these ex-muslims.
Our countries are spiraling in poverty and amoral hedonism; there is nothing to admire about us.
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666a4b No.37308
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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e9593b No.37379
>[comment from a thread on r/exmuslim]"Omar was one of the first people that showed me how ugly Islam is. That guy scared me more than impressed me."
May Allah be pleased with amir-ul-mu'mineen 'Umar ibn al Khattab. 1400 years since al-Faruq's passing and he's still scaring apostate and rafidha devils.
>>37308
Good vid, but cerberus-worshippers will keep barking.
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1d8815 No.37385
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b30540 No.38173
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70befc No.38397
I'm full of hate. I want to kill every single one of them
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1dc9fd No.38398
>>38397
Seek professional psychiatric help.
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d9fb35 No.38399
>>38397
It goes away. It would ruin my day to hear that someone left Islam. With time i began to see the humorous side of it when I realized how stupid their reasoning was and how it's upto Allah to guide them not me. Now I browse r/murtadeen as my daily cringe dose.
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e9593b No.38464
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1dc9fd No.38465
>>38463
Apostasy is only punishable by death if the apostate tries to convert others from Islam or if the apostate tries to harm Muslims.
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ca38e1 No.38471
>>38463
If done publicy within an Islamic State. I doubt the kuffar of that subreddit are living in Saudiyya or Iran or any other country with death for apostasy
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70befc No.38495
>>38471
I just wish that the Islamic State had actually succeeded in establishing a Caliphate. I know the fight isn't over, but I don't have much hope left.
>>38465
The majority (or probably all of them) of "ex-muslims" I've seen on the internet and other types of media wants to push another Muslims astray from the path. They do deserve to be executed.
I know probably half (or more) of them are fake, especially on the internet, but there are many that actually do. Like that murtad from Turkey who has a big channel in YouTube where he keeps ranting about Islam in general, even though he was refuted by many brothers. If any brother would engage in a mission to kill him or hack his accounts, it would be much appreciated, and not just for me.
>>38464
That's exactly what I'm talking about.
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1dc9fd No.38497
>>38495
>If any brother would engage in a mission to kill him or hack his accounts, it would be much appreciated
Yeah, well, we don't do that and any discussion of plans to do anything like that won't be acceptable here.
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42f703 No.38504
>>38495
>I just wish that the Islamic State had actually succeeded in establishing a Caliphate. I know the fight isn't over, but I don't have much hope left.
ISIS assassinated hundreds of Sunni mujahideen in Syria because they didnt pledge loyalty to Baghdadi. ISIS killed muslim prisoners like Abdur Rahman Peter Kassig for no good reason. ISIS tried to control a large flat country with zero air defenses and instead thought it was a good idea to stage foolish attacks in European countries with advanced air forces who relished the excuse to kill muslims. ISIS had prospects but it was a total disaster and I hope Muslims can learn from their horrible mistakes and I guess give them credit for fighting the evil Safawi militias, Assad, and the Iraq puppet-state but that’s it. They literally fight the Taliban and are definitely khawarij.
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515531 No.38519
>>38504
New fag here from 4chan why is a 2 year old thread still up ? Is this board dead ?
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1dc9fd No.38521
>>38519
It's a slow board.
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515531 No.38522
>>27804
I'm aftually somewhat satisfied with the number of people visiting mosque , almost no one misses jummuah prayer and you can expect to fill two or three rows with other prayers
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70befc No.38523
>>38497
Just sayin'. Also, are you the board owner or something?
>>38504
>ISIS assassinated hundreds of Sunni mujahideen in Syria because they didnt pledge loyalty to Baghdadi.
They declared war against the Caliphate, what else should they do?
Some of these groups received (and still receives) support from the crusaders and worked with them, some of these groups pledged alliance to the new fake Al-Qaeda, instead of trying to unite or at least remain neutral and fight against the real enemy, no, they simply broke ties just because hurr ISIS is too brutal and ☻ like that, throwing their mask off and revealing their true identities and objectives. They started the war against the Islamic State, not the other way around.
>ISIS killed muslim prisoners like Abdur Rahman Peter Kassig for no good reason.
I don't know much about that, but I do not to believe in such vague statements.
>They literally fight the Taliban and are definitely khawarij.
Again, if the Taliban doesn't believe in the legitimacy of the Caliphate of Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi and are against it, ISIS has no option but to strike back.
The khawarij lie is always used against the Islamic State, though I've never seen real proof but vague statements and conspiracies. The khawarij are the ones who kill the muslims, ignores the kuffar and uses the Quran and the Hadiths to back their actions. ISIS have never killed real muslims, neither have they ignored the kuffar and targeted Muslims over it. I want real proof about that if you disagree with me.
They follow the Quran and the Sunnah to it's fullest, strictly.
Maybe the khawarij are the Shias, who murders innocent sunnis whenever they can. Maybe they are the Nusayriyyah and it's dogs murdering and persecuting sunnis while protecting Christians and others. Maybe they are the shia persians who murder any scholars and their followers who don't abide to the government's law and beliefs (https://youtu.be/CC1bi1_VyPA , https://youtu.be/cTz1mcKLH5g) Maybe they don't even exist yet. But I would really think about that before claiming that ISIS is the khawarij and forgetting all these murderers who claim to be muslims. Sadly, I have to agree with the rest.
Although they failed in many ways, they tried to do what many today are afraid to. And they were really purifying every land they came across, enforcing Shariah and Tawheed everywhere they could. Their objective was pure and right, finally the Ummah would be safe and sovereign, and the word of Allah would be strictly followed.
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d26aa3 No.38524
>>38523
>literally praising an enemy of the United States on an American website
Enjoy that ban, buddy.
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8ee77f No.38533
>>38523
Remember when they named their magazine Dabiq because of that end times hadith? As if anyone with any kind of knowledge in hadith would believe that it was referring to ISIS. They completely ignore all the hadith about the Madhi and other things and told everyone that they would be ‘undefeatable’ in Dabiq and that Jesus would come and help them. No surprise that they lost that town without any kind of real struggle, but they renamed their magazine to the ‘Rumiyah’ just in time so no one would notice. But I guess that works if their target audience is people that don’t really have any real Islamic knowledge.
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70befc No.38536
>>38533
Well, they guessed it wrong. It doesn't diminish their effort though.
And they didn't lost that town with any real struggle. Literally everyone turned against the Islamic State. From Russia to the US.
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8ee77f No.38537
>>38536
It’s called selective interpretation. You would have to be knowingly dishonest to read through the sections of end times hadith and pick out the one about Dabiq while completely disregarding the very detailed descriptions of the Madhi and how the descent of Isa PBUH would take place, and then say that since ISIS took control of Dabiq, the hadith was refering to ISIS.
There are very few instances (with regard to end times hadith) where they are placed in any kind of chronological order, and this is one of them. First the Madhi will take bayah from the people at the Kabah, then the battle will take place in Dabiq, then Isa PBUH will descend in Damascus. You don’t have to be any kind of scholar to know this. All you have to do is read the hadith, you don’t even need a detailed description or interpretation of them.
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70befc No.38538
>>38537
I know the Hadith, brother.
But are you completely sure about that? What if they chose the name of their magazine as Dabiq just to illustrate something not so specific as you suggest?
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1e0560 No.38539
>>38495
ISIS is an enemy to the Ahlus Sunnah. They ruined the Islamic Revolution in Syria and have left the Trinitarian kaffir in a stronger position than ever before. Not only this but they even went out of their way to hinder the Taliban from fighting the Crusaders in Afghanistan.
Al Qaeda would aid fellow Sunni Militias wherever help was needed wether it be Yemen, Somalia, Iraq, Chechnya or Afghanistan. ISIS sought to fight against anyone that didn't pledge allegiance to their Caliph. According to their definition of a kaffir,Ali RA and Abdullah bin Zubair RA were kaffirs for delaying/not giving the bayah
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e0aa39 No.38541
>>38523
>they declared war on The islamic state.
>confusing a name with reality
Isis was just another sunni group, the other groups worked with them until they became khawarij and ruined absolutely everything. 20 years of bombing Iraq made these people insane. I understand why they became insane but it doesnt make it right. Baghdadi is a horrible leader and a khariji who ruined Iraq and Syria. Pic related before Baghdadi turned his organization khariji - it enjoyed wide support as a resistance org of sunnis.
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e0aa39 No.38542
>>38524
You can praise an “enemy of the US” here. Just can’t support attacking civilians as that violates islamic law and US law. You also can’t attack a country that gives you a passport and gives you your rights - again, against Islamic law.
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5a7df1 No.38544
Here is the official word concerning this board and discussion of ISIS:
You may: (These things are within the realm of the First Amendment)
1] Express admiration for them.
2] Express hatred for them.
3] Discuss their history, politics, and current events..
You may not: (These are potentially criminal acts that will gain the attention of law enforcement)
1] Encourage people to join them.
2] Encourage people to declare allegiance to Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi.
3] Encourage people to donate money or provide links to do so.
4] Encourage people to commit acts of violence or treason against the people of the United States or its allies.
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cdff17 No.38547
>>38541
The only based group currently in syria right now is the HTS and maybe so NFL factions.
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8ee77f No.38551
>>38538
They said these things themselves, in their own propaganda. It is impossible to try and bring up the brutality of ISIS to their supporters, because they will always claim that it is all just lies spread by western media. But if you are going to deny the things that they themselves say and do in their own propaganda videos, and say things like ‘Oh they probably didn’t mean it’, you are being dishonest with yourself.
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c96819 No.38555
>>38544
>You may not: (These are potentially criminal acts that will gain the attention of law enforcement)
>1] Encourage people to join them.
>2] Encourage people to declare allegiance to Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi.
>3] Encourage people to donate money or provide links to do so.
>4] Encourage people to commit acts of violence or treason against the people of the United States or its allies
Again the Zogbots are getting in the way, thanks to the Zog, who always support increasing their funding, never reducing it.
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70befc No.38577
>>38551
I'm sorry, brother, but I can't simply believe in you without any real proof. If you would provide some links, videos, PDFs or any other thing to back up your statements other than just your words, then I could agree with you.
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f05648 No.38578
>>38547
I think HTS and the Taliban are good bros. But Daeshis call them kuffar and would kill me and try to kill our brothers. They are insane and be careful probably half are gov agents.
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70befc No.38579
>>38541
They didn't became khawarij. They declared themselves Caliphate, and other muslim groups should join it as it is their duty. But they didn't. Actually, they broke ties with ISIS. What I'm trying to say here is that the Islamic State didn't started war with these groups, it's the other way around. They simply declared the Caliphate and the fake Al-Qaeda and their allies didn't like it, so they said ISIS are the khawarij and therefore should be destroyed.
The Islamic State was trying to unify the Ummah.
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f05648 No.38583
>>38579
Look up the history of the Ibadis, they did the exact same thing only they survived because there were no drones back then.
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f05648 No.38584
>>38580
My heart aches when I think of the youth who joined them and were wasted with no care. But if their intentions were pure they will be rewarded by Allah eventhough the organization was a khariji failure in its leadership and tactics.
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72f169 No.38605
>>38580
Yup. Comparing them to Al Qaeda really shows how upstart and amateurs they were. But i still think them neong so hostile to EVERY single movement besides there own was dumb and fusuq.
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5edf80 No.38635
>>38465
False.
>>38495
tbh you don't need hope or any wishing, facts are saudi arabia is about to collapse, and wilayat najd of ISIS is the most prominent in the arabian peninsula, this coming saudi iranian war will be the next step for expansion of ISIS, take it as you will
>>38504
stop spreading lies, this is very dangerous and will backfire on your tongue, also taliban is khariji they sell drugs and support russia & iran
>>38537
they never claimed that
>>38539
>>38541
these kaffirs fight for democracy
>>38544
nobody is doing that
>>38547
u mean turkish proxies lol
>>38583
you dont know history
>>38605
Aq is ikhwani bro they praised morsi
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a63702 No.38639
>>38635
What's wrong with the Ikhwan?
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5edf80 No.38642
>>38639
They are pro democracy.
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1dc9fd No.38646
>>38642
Ah, goodie. Our resident "everything is haram" Salafi is back!
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5edf80 No.38698
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1dc9fd No.38703
Are you not the "voting is shirk" and "joking is haram" guy?
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4d52e1 No.38721
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a63702 No.38725
>>38642
I used to be of the opinion that democracy is haram too but is it? I mean it's only haram if you vote to judge something contrary to what Allah has judged
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d31ba5 No.38728
>>38725
You are wrong. What you refer to is delegates to enforcing the hudud punishments. Voting is not Islamic
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a63702 No.38729
>>38728
Not really. What I'm saying is that it's haram to judge contrary to the judgement of Allah like innovating new punishments for hudud but is it haram to vote in favour of enforcing hudud?
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d31ba5 No.38730
>>38729
It’s cleary an apostate vote because if whomsoever conducts the vote being an authority had any other intention they would be in kufr.
Enough with the word games. The time for belief is now and the time for disbelief is never
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5edf80 No.38767
>>38729
You don't have an opinion on huddud, you accept it or you're a kafir. There's no voting for or against shariah, as it's a package deal when you enter Islam. Also the majority offers no guidance, as we know from the quran.
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5edf80 No.38768
>>38744
jazak Allah khayr akhi
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5d82b7 No.38775
>>38767
Exactly. But since most Islamic Countries are under the tyranny of kufr why not use this system to fix them?
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5edf80 No.38806
>>38775
Firstly, because that's not the sunnah. Rasul Allah (SAW) never compromised with the mushrikin even when they offered him power, and never will we. Second, it has never worked, not in algeria, not in egypt, not in tunisia. All those lead to compromise with shariah and secular law. Thirdly, it's illogical to use a rigged colonial system of control and think it will benefit Islam.
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e0aa39 No.38812
>>38811
>talks about morality
>has two dads
Get out Trini. All your countries are gay.
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e9593b No.38813
The kafir’s moral highground:
>genocides
>bombing civilians
>force people into torture camps
>medical experiments(basically just more torture)
>mutiliate corpses of civilians for fun
>gang rape women before torturing them to death
>actual enslavement(but this doesn’t count for some reason)
>more genocides of millions
>cutting genitals off boys
>homosexuality
>zoophilia
>furryism
>cuckoldry
Muslim moral depravity
>milk al-yameen
>marriage with cousins of opposite gender
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e9593b No.38814
>>38812
>m-muh medieval gender roles!
Pathetic. Is that really the best you immoral bigots can come up with? Why don’t you go and have sex with a biological female in faithful matrimony you backwards ☻skin 3rd worlder
Now if you’ll exuse me, I have better things to do *grabs dilator while opening 2TB harddrive of incest and furry porn*
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1dc9fd No.38815
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909bb3 No.38895
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Christian to Islam to Christian to Islam
Alhamdulillah
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0e023a No.38910
>>38806
I agree that embracing democracy isn't the sunnah nor is it the effective route but this doesn't mean those islamist parties in support of using such methods are kaffirs.
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0e023a No.38911
>>38895
Akhi here has turned into a rightous yoyo. Masha Allah
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0e023a No.38912
Browsing ex muslim forums back in middle school used to fill my mind with doubts but now it strengthens my iman more than any lecture.
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f1d78e No.38913
>>38911
That bro is so woke he got unwoke then he busted through the next layer and got woke again.
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f1d78e No.38915
>>38912
>>38912
>>38912
>I have my highschool diploma.
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5edf80 No.38930
>>38910
They are, as iman is not only in the heart, but also in the limbs and in the sayings. Only the murjia would consider iman only to be in the hearts, but not actions or open sayings. And democracy itself, is based on a mushriq principle, rule of man for man. This is impossible for a muslim to encourage or join or support a mushriq ideology. There can not be two gods in one heart, as the arab pagans did believe in the unique Allah but also added partners with no right, so do the ikhwanis believe in the unique Allah yet still associate partners in hukumiyyah with Allah. And judgegin by their sayings, erdogan says he supports secularism and respects ataturk, and does not want khilafah. And morsy pledged to uphold the (taghut) egyptian constitution and army in his term. These words and actions constitute kufr.
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5edf80 No.38931
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8ee77f No.38935
>>38930
When Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab allied himself with the first Saudi state was he engaging in Kufr?
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1dc9fd No.38939
>>38935
Exactly why we don't take wahhabi hypocrites seriously.
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8ee77f No.38950
>>38939
Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab lived before the time of the United States and democracy. I do not know where he said anything like ‘voting is shirk’, because it was before his time. He did get rid of much of the grave worship that was going on in the Arabian Peninsula and stopped the practice of there being 4 different prayer groups (one for each Fiqh school) around the Kabaa in Mecca. Now all the Muslims pray together. He would not have been able to do this without the backing of the first Saudi state (today’s Saudi Arabia is the third). That is why it sometimes the only way meaningful change can be brought about is by working within the system (ie democracy). The term ‘wahhabi’ is thrown around to include all kinds of extremist groups, even if they have nothing to do with Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab’s teachings.
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8ee77f No.38953
>>38577
I heard that from old ISIS propaganda circa 2014. I also read that from interviews conducted of people that were living under ISIS. I tried to find some of those interviews in google, but now all I can see is tons of 'living under ISIS helped me find Jesus' and other Christian interviews. So no, I can't provide any proof.
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5edf80 No.38965
>>38935
No, because he was supporting a monarchy, which is not shirk as long as the king is righteous, and he was not a democrat or secular, but was fighting for shariah. The first saud state was good imo.
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5edf80 No.38966
>>38950
working within the system of democracy makes you compromise tawhid, they call for you to pledge to uphold their constitution and democracy, thus rendering your shahada invalid
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5edf80 No.38967
>>38953
so basically you have hear say and slander
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8ee77f No.38975
>>38965
He did that while opposing the Ottoman Khilafah and knowing that the Saudis were collecting un-Islamic taxes during the people at harvest time. I'm not saying he was wrong, but it is an example of how things are not always black and white.
>>38967
When I hear them saying things with my own ears, I can say that I heard them say those things. How is that slander? The interviews supported what I heard them say. Another hadith ISIS was spreading around at the time and implying that it was referring to themselves was the hadith of the 'black flags from the east'. That hadith was also talking about the Madhi. You never saw any of that in 2014?
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8ee77f No.38976
>>38967
They named their magazine Dabiq. Why did they name it that if it wasn’t a direct reference to the hadith about Dabiq? Why would they name it that if they weren’t implying that the hadith about Dabiq was referring to them? You can’t just make up excuses for them whenever they do something that is clearly wrong. The only source of information that can be used to claim that they are doing wrong is from ISIS sources, since any other source is deemed to be a liar. Do you think ISIS always tells the absolute truth when releasing their news and propaganda?
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5edf80 No.38985
>>38975
>opposing the Ottoman Khilafah
the ottomemes didn't even control nejd
most of the arabian peninsula was under arab tribes
>Saudis were collecting un-Islamic taxes
how do u know its un islamic? plus even if it was, its not kufr, just a big sin
>When I hear them saying things with my own ears
im saying you might think thats what it means, but are in fact simply assuming, they have never claimed that explicitly
>>38976
>Why did they name it that if it wasn’t a direct reference to the hadith about Dabiq?
it was a reference, yet that does not mean they claimed it was their fate, and when they say they will open rome, they always say inshaAllah, every muslim would say this
>You can’t just make up excuses for them whenever they do something that is clearly wrong.
we have to make excuses for our muslim brothers
>Do you think ISIS always tells the absolute truth when releasing their news and propaganda?
why would I assume evil about muslims ?
some of the information, the west censors , like how many muslims are killed ,this is very important info, did u know in baghouz USA massacred 3000 muslims in 1 day? CNN would never show this
“O you who have believed, avoid much [negative] assumption. Indeed, some assumption is sin. And do not spy or backbite each other. Would one of you like to eat the flesh of his brother when dead? You would detest it. And fear Allah ; indeed, Allah is Accepting of repentance and Merciful.” [Qur’an, 49:12]
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8ee77f No.38989
>>38985
Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab and his followers fought with the Ottomans on a few occasions. The Ottoman’s were surrounded by some Sufi advisors who told them lies about Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab and his followers and convinced them to fight him.
> how do u know its un-Islamic
The Saudis asked Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab if they would support them in their position of authority and if he would support them in their taking of a tax from the people during the harvest (a tax above the zakat). He agreed to the first, but would not agree to the second condition because imposed taxes go against the Sharia. Instead he said something along the lines of “May Allah grant you money so that you would not need to take such taxes.”
> we have to make excuses for our Muslim brothers
When there are a group of Muslims who declare many different groups of Muslims murtad (even groups like the Muslim Brotherhood and the Taliban) and kill thousands of Sunnis in Syria and Iraq, that is not the time to be making excuses for them.
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5edf80 No.39013
>>38989
>Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab and his followers fought with the Ottomans on a few occasions. The Ottoman’s were surrounded by some Sufi advisors who told them lies about Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab and his followers and convinced them to fight him.
>The Saudis asked Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab if they would support them in their position of authority and if he would support them in their taking of a tax from the people during the harvest (a tax above the zakat). He agreed to the first, but would not agree to the second condition because imposed taxes go against the Sharia. Instead he said something along the lines of “May Allah grant you money so that you would not need to take such taxes.”
literally nothing wrong with defending your land
>When there are a group of Muslims who declare many different groups of Muslims murtad (even groups like the Muslim Brotherhood and the Taliban)
they have their arguments, you can agree or disagree, but if you haven't heard their refutations you can't really comment on that
>and kill thousands of Sunnis in Syria and Iraq,
>that is not the time to be making excuses for them.
thats exactly why we make excuses for them, to protect them from any exaggerated claims, they dont kill that much, and most of their victims are alawi, communist or secular fsa
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8ee77f No.39051
>>39013
Since it is so important to make excuses for our Muslim brothers, can you give me an example of when ISIS has made excuses for other Muslims? Then seem to spend much more time making takfir of them so that their blood and property become halal than they do giving anyone the benefit of the doubt.
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5edf80 No.39098
>>39051
There's no excuse for shirk…
The sahaba even takfired another sahabi for swearing by an arab idol (accidentally by habit), then he repented for his shirk. This proves also shirk is by words and actions, not just intentions.
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8ee77f No.39108
>>39098
What excuse is there for labeling the entire Muslim Brotherhood organization murtad? Is there a group of Muslims opposed to ISIS that is not labeled to be murtadeen by them?
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5edf80 No.39113
>>39108
>What excuse is there for labeling the entire Muslim Brotherhood organization murtad?
It is takfir mutlaq, meaning general takfir, that is to say the usool of their ideology are based on shirk itself, and anyone who ascribes to them is a mushrik. Same concept for the takfir of twelver imamiyah rafidiya, takfir mutlaq on the masses, based on their core belief of their rafilthy aqeedah, as it is shirk. But an ignorant, who has never read ikhwani books or rafidi books, can't really be called a real ikhwani or rafidi, but a jahil.
>Is there a group of Muslims opposed to ISIS that is not labeled to be murtadeen by them?
As far as I'm aware, yes, literally most muslims. They don't even takfir ibadhis or zaydis, let alone the sunni. It's not about fighting them, it's about fighting for the sake of other than Allah, for example if their enemy is the kurdish SDF or FSA, which are sunni but have communist or democratic ideologies, they have apostated from Islam for those ideologies, not for fighting the state.
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1dc9fd No.39114
>>39113
ISIS are aggressors and transgressors. Stop pretending they're anything but terrorists, thugs, and bullies. Nobody attacked them, they are not defending themselves.
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5edf80 No.39130
>>39114
This is just plain false if you followed the syrian and iraqi wars. The fsa attacked them first sufi jahil.
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ea5d2b No.39142
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8ee77f No.39171
>>39142
>And then you have those who have completely deluded themselves into liking beard etc.
Liking things I don't like makes you deluded! Only I know what people should like and not like! How dare anyone think differently!
>It is your body and you should have the right to do what you like
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1dc9fd No.39176
>>39175
You should stop believing in everything ISIS nasheed propaganda videos say, brother.
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1dc9fd No.39184
>>39179
That's up to you, but you're not allowed to encourage others to accept/join/donate to ISIS. >>38545
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1dc9fd No.39193
>>39192
I believe what my eyes have shown me. ISIS is full of homosexuals having buttsex with each other while they eat bacon and burn Qur'ans.
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e9593b No.39198
>>39193
>My eyes have shown me gay porn
your words, not mine.
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1dc9fd No.39201
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5edf80 No.39205
>>39193
t.Xerxes khameneoi
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1c69f7 No.39216
>>39205
>He doesn't pray to shrines
Typical sunnë vahabi khawariji nasibi takfiri mukhalifeen goyim
Bet you don't even walk on coals
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659938 No.39226
>>39216
When was the last time you bathed in the mud of Karbala, Wahhabi Takfiri?
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2b424f No.39274
>>39200
do you prostrate before any special structures/buildings?
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758280 No.39524
Just had a strange thought.
Whenever Muslims tend to share Quran verses, we use quran.com. Whenever people opposing Islam do the same, they seem to use quranx.com.
Both sites have the Quran, and they seem the same. I just wonder what it is about quranx.com that makes them link it over the regular one.
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1dc9fd No.39528
>>39524
Most Qur'an sites have very similar editions of the various interpretations of Qur'an; but there is no substitute for having actual, physical copies. Websites can be changed, altered subtly to change the message of Allah; but physical copies can't be altered without you noticing.
I've always encouraged people to collect as many copies of Qur'an as they can in order to cross reference between interpretations.
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5edf80 No.39529
>>39524
Because quranx stand for quran exegesis which means quran tafsir.
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e9593b No.39573
Remember that crosscuck missionaries have no problem with lying. Here's a self-proclaimed ex-Muslim turned christian minister/missionary giving testimonies in gibberish and passing it off as Arabic quotes from the Quran and Muslims etc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONdm6UPhp3U
They're so confident that crosscucks aren't going to do any critical thinking that they can go out on numerous occasions to masses of people and lie about Muslims by uttering fake nonsense sounds. The only problem was that they didn't account for Muslims watching the recordings, Muslims not all too impressed with christian "Arabic". And this wasn't just some literal-who christian picked up by Muslims from the streets of america but rather a famous award-winning christian minister whose books on Islam have sold hundreds of thousands and have been active for decades.
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758280 No.39580
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>39573
Reminds me of the guys claiming they found a spelling mistake in the Quran. Turns out the Quran they're using is written in a different font.
ف -> ڢ
ق -> ڧ
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_alphabet#Regional_variations
It's sad seeing people deliberately lie to get people to convert, especially with how hard they try in the video.
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5edf80 No.39583
>>39573
>>39580
ppl of falsehood are embarrassing, especially those who pretend to be muslim or ex muslim, its so fake and obvious it makes me cringe when boomers believe them
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92b4d1 No.39608
>>39580
The sanaa manuscript was quite obviously used for practice by young scribes.
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