b61d43 No.17809
Who are these guys? Are they a good thing?
Also, what do you bros think of the Gulenist conspiracy?
dbedf3 No.17810
>>17809
As long as they remain non-violent, then all is well.
06367f No.17891
>>17810
>MUH PEAS
Islam literally wouldn't be around without the bravery of the Mujahideen throughout our history.
>>17809
Moderate. Literally will go nowhere without any action.
dbedf3 No.17904
>>17891
>without the bravery of the Mujahideen
That's not true at all.
06367f No.17915
>>17904
So you're telling me that if the Mujahideen didn't take up the sword to defend their lands countless times when the kuffar invaded, then Islam would be the same?
Saladin,Imam Shamil,Khalid ibn Al-Walid,etc all were from different places and different times. But defended and expanded our deen, with the sword.
dbedf3 No.17919
>>17915
Islam is a product of Allah. Man can neither alter it nor destroy it.
This day have I perfected your religion for you and completed My favor upon you and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. 5:3
Islam is perfect and complete. We have nothing to do but submit.
6a0554 No.17925
dbedf3 No.17955
>>17925
Well, I am Ibadi …
be170b No.17961
>>17809
>Who are these guys?
basically isis but without the means to blow themselves up and behead people
>Also, what do you bros think of the G*lenist conspiracy?
fetullah g*len the roach is a CIA operative that sought to undermine the efforts of Erdogan, his organisation funded Hillary the whore and he is a zionist. Inshallah he will be extradited and punished accordingly.
be170b No.17968
>>17961
Also want to add, this is a good video on gulenists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAiAFqXPwZ8
this video was made 2 years before the CIA coup, so she proved her knowledge
52b8de No.18532
>>17809
>efforts of Erdogan
What kind of efforts did he make? Stealing? Fraud? Bribery?
be170b No.18544
>>18532
Returning basic rights to muslims, such as hijab. Muslims were very discriminated in Turkey before him.
760dde No.18590
>>18544
Well, he found out that using religion is a very good way to get political power. People like love him because he is religious. Did you know that he is not even praying? And did you know that he is a billionaire?
be170b No.18591
>>18590
>Did you know that he is not even praying?
proof?
>And did you know that he is a billionaire?
mashallah
760dde No.18595
>>18591
>mashallah
hahaha. He is a corrupt thief.
>proof?
I can give you nothing more than a few tweets.
be170b No.18597
>>18595
>"Believers, if one who publicly commits sins brings you any news, ascertain its truthfulness carefully, lest you harm people through ignorance and then regret what you have done."(49:6)
Claims of random people online is not proof. I can claim you're a rapist right now, does that qualify as proof? No.
760dde No.18598
>>18597
>>18597
Well, the ones I'm talking about aren't random. They gave out lot secrets about him and his government. Anyway for me it doesn't matter he prays or not.Right now he is taking down whoever opposes or criticize him. He is a dictator and a thief. I never understood why muslims like him so much.
be170b No.18599
>>18598
>Right now he is taking down whoever opposes or criticize him.
Not true, he is taking down parties that support the PKK terror group only. And these actions are supported by the assembly.
>I never understood why muslims like him so much.
Like I said before he protects their rights.
760dde No.18600
>>18599
> he is taking down parties that support the PKK terror group only
:] You don't watch the turkish news do you? He arrested lot of journalists. Right now he tries to change leader of CHP too.
be170b No.18601
>>18600
These (((journalists))) are PKK doing propaganda.
760dde No.18602
>>18599
A LEAF. [foul language]ing leaf.
be170b No.18603
760dde No.18604
>>18601
They were leftists not pkk supporters you dumb
be170b No.18606
>>18604
Leftists with communist PKK sympathies.
760dde No.18607
>>18606
whatever man, whatever. :D I can't change your views nor you can mine. Time will show who is right :)
be170b No.18608
>>18607
What are your views?
760dde No.18609
be170b No.18610
>>18609
Why do you reply twice like an autist?
760dde No.18611
>>18610
that was for your latter question
be170b No.18612
>>18611
Why are you afraid of telling me your views? And why do you hate muslims so much if you are a so called muslim?
760dde No.18613
>>18612
What do you want to know? I don't hate muslims. I just think most of the muslims are dumb, naive people.
760dde No.18614
be170b No.18615
>>18613
Do you pray? Do you think muslim women should wear hijab?
760dde No.18616
>>18615
:) No I don't. I was praying till a year ago.(since 12. 21 now) Should? No. It must be their own choice
be170b No.18617
>>18616
Do you drink or smoke? Do you fast ramadan?
And do you support leaders that make hijab illegal in muslim countries?
760dde No.18618
>>18617
No, I don't drink or smoke. I did. No
be170b No.18619
>>18618
Well Turkey used to ban hijab, now they don't. How is that a bad thing?
760dde No.18620
>>18617
I didn't say it is. Good things he did doesn't justify the bad deeds.
be170b No.18621
>>18620
Just admit it. You hate him because he is "islamist".
760dde No.18622
>>18621
People don't hate him because he is Islamist. Same applies for me. You should know that he is not the savior of Islamic world. He is a selfish "leader".
be170b No.18623
>>18622
Same could be said about iran.
760dde No.18624
>>18623
Now my turn. How old are you? What is your nationality? Your madhab/hizb?
be170b No.18625
760dde No.18626
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be170b No.18628
>>18622
What do you think of Iran?
dbedf3 No.18629
>>18602
>>18604
>>18609
>>18613
If you can't handle civil discourse, then perhaps you should find another board.
9aad62 No.18631
>>18629
Nah this so much fun.
be170b No.18632
302b9c No.18640
>none
:) you're salafi. Probably a radicalized one too.
>what do you think of Iran?
It's a country
be170b No.18642
>>18640
Salafism is an offshoot of the hanbali madhhab.
I have very little in common with them, except hating shias.
>It's a country
What do you think of it's leaders? They support a dictator that kills his own people.
e58a10 No.18643
>>18642
I think when countries do something they try to choose the most profitable choice. I don't have emotional feeling for any country. Every one of them is playing politics.
>They support a dictator that kills own people
If you talk about Assad, he just defends his government. Rebels wanted revolution now they're suffering. Half of the Syrians support him. That's why they couldn't achieve revolution. I don't like Assad at all but what he did was expected and any strong leader would've fight back. Rebels are no better than Assad anymore.
be170b No.18645
>>18643
Did you ever post on /sg/?
e1301c No.18652
>>17809
Seem pointless just saying khilafa khilafa without substance . Seem rhetoric of al qaeda and sayyid qutb but dont call for extreme violence.
e1301c No.18654
b31a5b No.18655
I have honestly not read much about Gulen. And I don't know much about what he does besides vague things people have told me.
Like that he said some hardcore Islamist stuff with some kind of strange millenarian message. And that he's also a Zionist somehow.
But just from what I seen from him he seems really tame.
be170b No.18657
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>>18655
They are pro west and zionist. They were against the aid flotilla to gaza. Also a gulenist general shot down the russian jet, that was after Turkey and Russia were getting closer. He got orders from his CIA masters to increase tension with russia. But after the failed coup attempt, which russian intelligence warned turkish intelligence about, they are now cooperating more than ever. All this boils down to israel not liking pro hamas Erdogan. Just like in egypt when they toppled Morsi, they tried in Turkey. What they don't know is, Turkey is far less corrupt than Egypt and most people support the ruling party.
Their war against Turkey is far from over, they will try to establish kurdistan, with their dogs, pkk murtadeen, further destabilizing the region and promoting sectarianism. The mobilization has begun.
e58a10 No.18660
>>18645
No
>>18657
>They were against the aid flotilla to gaza
Those "helpers" went to Israel just to fight. Not to help. When their ship sail they said "we will become shaheed and sh*t". If they didn't dramatized and fight back they would've been alive and those materials would've in the hands of Palestinians. A month later another ship went for help(they were europeans). They didn't fight back and surrendered when Israeli force came. And their aid materials were sent to Palestinians. Is it so hard to obey when weapon is directed to you???
> Also a gulenist general shot down the russian jet, that was after Turkey and Russia were getting closer.
WHAT THE? You don't watch tv at all dear erd*gan fanatic. Check this http://www.globalresearch.ca/turkish-prime-minister-i-gave-order-to-shoot-down-russias-plane-myself-turkish-armed-forces-carried-out-orders-given-by-me-personally/5491578
>All this boils down to israel not liking pro hamas Erdogan.
Did you know that Israel and Turkey's trade is higher than ever :))))
>Turkey is far less corrupt than Egypt and most people support the ruling party.
They are enough corrupt
be170b No.18673
>>18660
>"Two pilots who were part of the operation to down the Russian Su-24 in November 2015 are in custody," a Turkish official told AFP late on Monday.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/07/turkish-pilots-downed-russian-jet-detained-160719132950496.html
>"Two pilots who downed a Russian plane have been detained in connection with the coup attempt. They could have links to Gulen organizatoin, but we do not have clear evidence at this point, it will be established by the court," Erdogan said in an interview
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201607201043366406-erdogan-russian-jet-gulen/
>They are enough corrupt
Turkey surpasses all arab coutnries combined lol.
What's your deal? You are pro israel, anti muslim? What are you lol
dbedf3 No.18697
>>18673
>What are you lol
The Japanese flag throws me off. Not that there aren't Muslims in Japan - there are about 100,000 of us there - but to have one here? I'm impressed. Statistically impressive.
be170b No.18703
>>18697
He's a proxy. Probably JIDF on my tail from /pol/. I have a long history with them.
e58a10 No.18710
>>18673
Event happened in 2015. Pilots detained in July 2016 after they started to suck Russia d*ck. Nice argument dude, nice argument(sarcasm).
>What's your deal? You are pro israel, anti muslim?
Pro Israel??? Anti muslim??? I'm just against [social epithet]ness that muslims are doing.
be170b No.18716
>>18710
Well I gave you evidence but you deny it. I don't know why you are obsessed with hating turkey. There are way worst and more corrupt countries for you to worry about, especially in the middle east. From all the big players in the middle east (Israel, Iran, Turkey, Saudi), they are the most competent, less criminal and caused overall the least suffering.