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1.) The nature of God

One, uncreated, all merciful, not all loving. His nature is to create infinitely. He sends prophets and messengers to every nation and tribe in all times, and his last prophet was Muhammad (pbuh). Because the end of time is near, after we muslims forget our religion, like it happened to every tribe before us. Allah will make the angel sound the trumpet and judgment day will begin.

2.) The nature of things (Metaphysics)

Matter can connect to the realm of non-matter. Such as souls or God speaking through the burning bush. God also has complete control over time and matter, like a video game if we can imagine, you can set the damage parameters and mass. For example, Allah made fire the was cool for Abraham when pagans tried to burn him alive. There is also cases of time travel with the story of the cave and the man in tent.

3.) The relation of man to God and the universe

Man is the deputy of God on earth, he must use it without spreading corruption or destroying it. He must enjoin good and forbid evil all over the earth. Man is also the slave of Allah and must remember him at all times and ask forgiveness and seek his bounty. If you worship God alone, and God loves you, all creation will love you. The angels, the earth and all that is on it will strive to serve the believers.

>>17050

If he's not all loving, and yet creates infinitely, then isn't that the same as saying being is not equatable with love.

Either you mean that God punishes some and thus is not all-loving (and in this case I say that's a constrained and materialistic definition of love, which cannot be applied to God), or you mean that love is not necessary for the creative act, or you mean that what I am (as you will see) calling love, you are describing by saying that he creates infinitely.

I think that God is the creator of all things, and therefor also the creator of evil, and I think that the creation of evil is an act of divine love, because the divine love is so transcendent that, rather than simply competing with the forces of evil, it is expressed even in evil acts, and so evil is subordinate to love but not at odds with it.

>If you worship God alone, and God loves you, all creation will love you. The angels, the earth and all that is on it will strive to serve the believers.

Then how is it the case that many pious men suffer and are hated?

Allow me to quote from John 15:18-19 (DRC1752):

"If the world hate you, know ye, that it hath hated me before you. If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you."

One of the best and most accessible sources on Islamic metaphysics is Syed Naquib al-Attas. His books are excellent and present traditional Sunni metaphysics in a way that would probably be intelligible to someone like you.

Another good source is "The Sufi Path of Knowledge" by William Chittick. Technically, it's a study of one person (Ibn al-'Arabi al-Hatimi), but it presents so many metaphysically relevant Qur'an verses and Hadith and so many citations from other scholars that it's a very valuable resource.

>>17070

God is not all loving because he hates the unjust, but of course we cannot say his love and hate is the same as ours.

>Then how is it the case that many pious men suffer and are hated?

It's God testing his servant. And God does not burden someone with more than they can handle.

>>17074

Allah *is* all-loving in a certain sense. This is a complex issue.

>>17077

God deprives usurious gains of all blessing, whereas He blesses charitable deeds with manifold increase. And God does not LOVE anyone who is stubbornly ingrate and persists in sinful ways. 2:276

>>17043

This is a pretty good introduction, it's a conversation between a Christian and a Muslim:

https://www.al-islam.org/inquiries-about-islam-shaykh-muhammad-jawad-chirri/how-islam-views-universal-creation