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First off leave this fucking board and porn behind, probably for good

>>81954

İ am on nofap and left porn but thoughts and fetish remained please help

>>81951

>>81955

See a shrink or better yet, a priest. I'll pray for you.

>>81951

Hey mate. In all seriousness: If you are really suicidal about this, then seek professional help.

Go to a pschologist and/or hypnotist and let them help you to find a cure.

you are not alone and suicide is real and one of the ugliest things on earth.

Go to your doctor and let him give you contacts to professionals. Ok?

It does go away if you stop indulging in the nonsense.

It's really the flipside of the nice guy shit that is everywhere on the internet, just with black people as the master race. Fascism really is faggotry.

I don't recommend trust randos for political re-education because there's all sorts of horseshit going on there, but if you read the history of these things, it really is nonsensical. The whole BDSM scene is bourgeois decadence on a whole new level.

Sadly a lot of the "help" and professional opinion out there feeds back into this shit, so the idea that you'll be fixed in therapy will probably just make it worse. They see any sign of weakness and they just want you to keep wallowing in filth. That's the really sad part of this fetish and online porn generally; once you're tagged and tracked, the system wants to keep you here and never let you be anything else. They know their business model is to make people into addicts, and no one wants to impede business or lose that inroad into people.

I really wish there were quality support groups that weren't raided by the usual assholes for sex addiction. Nofap is legit a fundie front to recruit people for their death cult. It probably does help that you masturbate less, and expect less out of the act. Humans were never meant to masturbate every day and part of the "help" we get is to tell us that repeated self-mutilation is totally normal. Ideally, we would be able to have actual sex with a female, but that sure as hell isn't happening, and it isn't going to really change our own lives if it did.

The good news I've found is that it really doesn't matter, and as we are older, we can move on and do the things we actually wanted. The mating game really is a joke, and even if you win, you don't really win. It's all going to be replaced with artificial insemination anyway, and with the BNWO/fascist shit generally they are conscious that they're promoting that eugenics shit. In the end, there is too much going for it, and the old way of doing things doesn't include losers. If by some chance you can ever be with an actual woman, don't expect much out of it and see it as little more than a thing to do, that you pass through and then go on to do something you would actually like. It's quite clear you like most porn addicts stopped liking anything about the act a long time ago. Usually the way they hook us in is to make our lives so miserable and tell us ad nauseum that this is all there is. It's really quite Satanic.

IDK if any of this helped you but I eventually dragged myself to a point where I'm not beating myself up over it. I don't know why men encourage the humiliation porn or tolerate this, but whores like being able to make money while keeping the quality of product as low as possible, just like drug dealers cut the good stuff with trash. It's always a game.

Will say that regardless of the fetish, there is a common thread with a lot of these addictions. The particular hook may vary, but it's all the same rot. The BNWO thing works with certain people if they've been primed with the racial politics of neoliberalism and taught to essentialize identity, and that gets back to this fascist concept of the political. Sexual politics as a whole is a bane. I keep asking myself why anyone goes along with it and why it has to be this much of a rigamarole, but I gave up on women a long time ago. They've all gone crazy. There was a small outlet for a while where black women were not as crazy as white women, but recently the system got them roped into the neoliberal-fascist mentality too. It's why you see black girl/white guy a lot more - it was at first offered as an escape from white women going crazy, until the black women became just as crazy and got the racist shit on top of it. (Full disclosure: I've only ever dated or done anything with black women as a white guy, and there's a whole dynamic where me and her were both expected to feel inferior. I really don't care about that, because it's not like my team has ever done much for me, but the whole eugenics idea has become everything.)

The BNW and all the BBC focus is 100% J3w driven bullshit intended to demoralize white Americans. But truth be told it also works against blacks in America. Because while it's actually not what's really going on as the pornists want to make you believe it is, with all the propaganda from television and newsprint ads always showing the white woman with a black man and rarely ever showing healthy white/white families or even black/black woman and man mated families, this just further works to perpetuate this false narrative designed to demoralize the races. Do you think black women are happy about losing their black men to white women? The Fuck No! They're about as pissed if not more so about it probably at least as much if not more so than the emotionally neutralized alpha leaning white male seeing all the propaganda and actually of a real percentage of white women now going interracial with blacks men as well as Hispanics. All races of man deserve to be able to maintain their racial cultural integrity and not have to have it demonized and/or purposely incrementally destroyed in such a ruthless insidious fashion disguised in the robes of "racial justice", "acceptance', 'diversity" or any other such bullshit.

>>82011

Man i am 18 i knew this shit about two years.

İ am going to the gym but i am Aline i never had a gf and i Want to Fox this sht

>>82021

Ok, so

1. 18

2. About 2 years

6. "Aline" = alone?

7. Nothing going on here

8. Regular exercise in gym

Several questions are left open. You spent some of your most important formative years screwing up your endocrine system and your still developing brain. There is no qick fix or trick or "anti-hypno" to change that. The questions are necessary to understand how much and how exactly you screwed yourself up. And to find out which of the conditions for getting out of it are already right. If you don't want to answer them in some detail, then do as earlier posters suggested: go see a shrink or a priest.

And I forgot one question (though I can probably guess the answer):

12. How is your relationship with your father?

>>82027

Look man, i don't have a family.

İ always bullied in my teenage.

Please help me.

All I can say is that once the cycle starts, the society does not let it stop. That's the sickest thing - the moment those people smell weakness, they're looking to make sure you're put down, and don't want you to recover. The idea that there are people who want to help you is one of the biggest lies, but they're eager to hurt you once you're down. I'm not like that because I don't gain anything from seeing others suffer, but I'm a weirdo, and that's why I have failed at life. The way society is set up is all about monetizing human suffering so that we are all incentivized to attack each other, exploit each other for what labor needs to be done, and just kill each other once we're stripped of anything useful. The pornshit is there to kill people. None of those women want you to be happy, they want you dead and they talk about it among each other.

I can tell you how this mechanically works to keep people in the cycle, but there is no easy way out, and there are a lot of people who want to put you back in even if you do get out. I still say though, you don't need to do this to yourself, and the BNWO thing is a joke. Black people are fucking worthless and aren't ruling anything, if that's the idea that is stuck in your head. Racial identitarianism in general is faggot shit which is what is really being pointed to, and anyone who thinks their "team" is on their side just gets deeper into the cycle. Fascists like to give the false sense of community when they take over, and once they get the reins of the state it's all pulled back. The long-term result is that it turns into parodic forms which recapitulate the same logic, and all of it is really intended to protect the true masters who are taking all of your shit. The people who stand to benefit from this never want the cycle to stop, so that's why all the experts and "helpers" are set up to destroy you if you dare think there is a way out of this. The whole thing is set up to manage the plebs while they're being killed off. Then you're given fascism and anti-Semitism to re-direct the rage without actually attacking anything that causes the problem, and the Hitlerites have a hilarious track record of failure if their goal is to kill all the evil Joos. Ofc what the Na Zis were really about was doing the early research work on what they're doing now, to see if such a society was possible and what they could do in the next go around, and here we are. I think you should figure out by now the rightoid identitarian types will never accomplish anything, and if you indulge in that shit, you're just going to become more of a fag. It is much better to not be a fag, and you do not have to be a fag. There is a way out unless you are imprisoned.

In the meantime, I could recommend some better dopamine hits, but what you really seem to need is recovery and a sense of what you really could have been without this stupid addiction. It is painful for me to see how much has been destroyed, and how much I was lied to, and that there is no hope in society, but I've done better when I accepted I can hate the people who did this to me, instead of hating myself for things I had no power over. That's the insidiousness of this assault on us - they blame us for things they did, while encouraging our own self-defeat, since that feeds the cycle and just makes their influence stronger.

Seriously though, you'll find with healthier habits, you can change the worst of it. You'll never get any credit from others about it, and certain people will always seek to put you back in the failure box. They just live for that shit. Since you quit porn, you already made the first step.

Nofap ideology is a trap. You don't need the ideology to abstain from wanking. Wanking is self-harm and only damages you, especially to the extent that it has been encouraged by "helpers" who feed every vice and tell us it is totally normal to jack off five times a day. That shit is for the birds. It seems like you're stuck in some ideology and that's difficult to untangle, and even if you break free from it, you still have a world that is designed to kill you.

The thing I did to live with myself is not something I would wish others to do unless there is truly no hope, so I won't mention it. It does work, in that it allows someone to tolerate living around these assholes.

You're still young so there's more hope for you than me. The sooner you get out of the porn world and its ideology, the better off you'll be. There are people out there who are piecing together for themselves what this shit really is, but there are a lot of swindlers who want to suck people back into the ruling narratives of self-defeat and humiliation, the last call to trap people in the institutions.

>>82030

İ knew bnwo thing is a bullshit but Man i got triggered by human penis wtf i am heterosexual thats my main problem probablt i got implant from these stupid videos

>>82031

It's part of the trap. You're not supposed to be gay - it's a mental illness and they've always known it. Same with virtually every sexual practice that they advance. It's not so much that they expect to fool anyone, but that people are worn down by being lied to so much that they cannot trust another person, and they're forced to comply with the lie through threats and chilling effects.

The way they work is deliberate transgression, and then insinuating that if you like this, then you must go further down the rabbit hole, and so on, until you arrive at the really illegal stuff. They brag that they can push people into anything and destroy them this way, and the moment someone is fingered, they can apply as much pressure as they want. Even if you keep your sense about you, once certain people know a weakness they'll use it against you.

I'm really sorry that you got sucked into the trap. The good news is that, at least as far as your personal desires, it does go away after a while. What doesn't go away is the loneliness and rejection, because you're not going to get any woman and that says something about you and the whole point of life, especially now where they like to shame men who are rejected. I think you're not as bad as some of the addicts I've seen. The tendency does go away if you have regular exposure to positive examples, even if you are still alone. The worst is when you get sucked into echo chambers. That's what they did with the genderqueer shit to go after troubled boys and girls. They especially like getting a girl roped into that, and there's a lot of creepy fuckers in that world.

>>82031

Mind, not saying that it is easy, but it sounds like you're not pathologically gay. It's fairly common to seek out things that appear easy when the society presents the rejection and shame routine. I don't know if your life has anything else going for it, but the boys who get sucked into gay during childhood are extremely damaged and you can tell that shit is not normal. I'm not saying the gay people are the problem. There are plenty of homosexuals who are decent enough people, and they'll say to me that it's a bunch of shit and no one should ever be sucked into that lifestyle. The ones that encourage the rot, I've learned to mock them in my own way.

IDK what the nofap world is like, but I think more men are coming to accept that there never was anything for them, and it's moving from "nofap" to full celibacy and rejection of the entire process. There are consequences to doing that, but I've found a healthy disgust for all things sexual is the best cure for any ailment, whether you're a failure or success. Only the depraved think sexual ideology is a good thing.

>>82036

He's not going to give you information. We all know the trap of the false helper. You can't fix people if they're going to return to a society that wants to ruin them and kick them back down. The whole point of this setup is to force people to exhaust themselves so they can't resist having their shit taken away. Why else do you think paypiggery and findom are as big as they are? That wouldn't exist if there weren't a wasteland of failed men paying into it, and once it starts, it never stops. It doesn't matter what your past was, and revealing information about your past is just an interrogation tactic. You don't need to know much about someone to know what this is and what people are subjected to.

Anyway, there's a problem with the hypno fetish, where a lot are in it believing they'll find something that will fix them, and this is the last place you're going to find any help. It's a response to the futility of fighting institutions, to believe that you can just submit and comply to make it better. That's the false promise that is extended, but the more you comply, the worst you're treated. The cycle started for me when I'm a child, and the "help" just told me "you're retarded" over and over until I would accept it. My life is destroyed and I have nothing, and that's what the "helpers" do. So, people look for solutions in the wrong places, whether that's fetishism or latching on to some ideology or retreating into a fantasy world and going insane. That's really what it is. You can fix yourself all you like but this is always for coping, so we can tolerate living another day in this hellworld.

I do think the problem isn't really the fetish, but that it's the chosen outlet to fill this void in life. Since that can't be fixed, it just means jumping to the next thing if the fetish is left. People should leave the fetish if they're like us (I'm only here because I came on a lark and decided to follow up on this thread, I quit hypno years ago and wish I never started this stupidity because the scene is full of the worst douchebags). This fetish and BDSM shit is for the rich. If you're a poor you do not belong in it and they make that clear. Part of latching onto it is the association of fetish with money and thus power and social relevance, and that's been the thing with a lot of addictions. With drugs it's not the drugs that are the problem, but that shitty people inhabit the druggie community. If there were no drugs, they'd find another vehicle for their shittiness.

>>82047

Years ago I got deep into degrading porn and this hypnois fetish and it nearly ruined me. A big part of what helped me put my life back together were other people that could give me concrete and practical advice on what I could do in my situation. I saw this thread as an opportunity to maybe return the favor.

In your critique of the hypno scene and society in general there are many vaild points. It is predatory and we really live in some form of shitty dystopia. However, that should not lead people to give up on trying to gain some control over their lives and not accepting help were they can't help themselves. That would just lead to even more unnecessary suffering.

I am sorry that you were hurt. But you sound like you have an axe to grind and your posts are kinda all over the place. If OP wants my help, I would like to talk with him about how to overcome perversions, sexual addiction, and how to get his life back on track. I don't feel that this thread is the right place to discuss politics or bemoan society's ills.

>>82054

You're right, I am being a bit touchy. I am still saying though, a lot of people get into this because their lives were fucked and that's not going to get any better. It's not the addiction itself that is the problem, but that there's nothing to go back to and we're made out to be parasites, since we have to go out to the world to find meaning.

I get what you're saying is the right thing to do, but the truth for me was that I wasn't as deep in as some people were. I went to porn as a I'm gay for how empty my life was, and I got used to "help" being a kick in the teeth or people who want to hurt me. You'd be surprised how many people are just living off a disability check and go into porn because they think that's the only way they're going to meet anyone, since you can't really go out and make friends when you live that way. That's social death and it eats away at someone. There's no getting life back on track. There is finding a way to not need this addiction, and to mitigate the worst of it. Now my hobbies are at least for me things that I wanted to do, and I asked myself why I ever cared so much about the porn thing. It's still there - I'm not celibate but I might as well be, but I found my acceptable outlet. It tore me up inside that no one would ever give me the thing I wanted out of this, and there are very few hypno providers who even suggest that is a thing. Those who do provide good stuff find their reliable clients and realize that the hypno world is fully of lousy addicts and a lot of porn chasers, and so they burn out and go private. I never cared for the PSO money-milking thing or being humiliated - if I want to be humiliated I can go outside and get that for free, from women who are far more interesting to me than some internet ho doing this as part of the routine women do these days. It's all so boilerplate and samey, and it's intended to be so. Porn does not reward creativity.

"I'm gay" cute word filter… (not gay, seriously, in case that was confusing)

Nah. Keep going deeper. Be a pussyfree incel permacaged simp adoring superior black men and simping for women. Its way more fun than sex or dating. relapse.

@OP which hypno file do you think was the most "damaging" one? i'd like to try it

OP, just stop watching and/or listening to hypno shit, start getting used to short fap sessions and only fap to porn that you could include in a normal sex life.

after a while, you`ll get used to that and hypno shit is gonna look like a whaste of time (which it is)

and don´t do nofap. I mean it´s only logical that you´ll get so horny that you relapse, so fap away my friend