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edb159 No.78849

I would sometimes wanna be more rough than my gf can handle ,

I already am and forcing her in place whenever she wants to get out of it

problem is she feels horrible about it

and as stupid as it sounds I really care about her feelings , I want to get her to enjoy this a bit more, any way to condittion or manipulate her into masochism?

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df7023 No.78852

In a word - No… if you actually care about her your only option is open honest communication - attempts to condition or manipulate her into it are tantamount to abuse.

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e87a64 No.78862

Hypnosis won't help you here unless she herself wants to like these things more and is willing to work with you.

>"As stupid as it sounds I really care about her feelings"

The only thing that sounds stupid is you trying to force her to do something that makes her feel horrible.

If you want to do this the right way, you ease your girlfriend into it, start with small things and work your way up slowly at a pace she is comfortable with. Show her how much it turns you on, what you like about it. Show interest in her needs as well, go outside of your own comfort zone for her. Put as much into the relationship as you're getting out of it, if not more. Then you might make some progress.

If it seems like she will never be as into it as you like, and you can't handle a relationship without that dynamic, be upfront about it with her. Don't try to force a person to change to meet your needs, it will never work. At best your ass is going to get dumped, at worst you'll end up a registered sex offender with a restraining order and prison time.

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6b0c28 No.78909

>>78849

>as stupid as it sounds I really care about her feelings

wtf

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959582 No.78919

You can't force someone to do something like this if they don't want to. Even if you were to use hypnosis, it wouldn't compel someone to do what you want if it's something that they don't want, even at an unconscious level. That said, there are ways to condition people to change their behaviour gradually over time. I'd recommend reading the Mind Play Guide by Mark Wiseman/Wise Guy to learn about proper, ethical hypnosis play, followed by the Brainwashing Book by sleepygirl (which I'm reading now) which is a beginners guide of sorts to ethical, consenting behaviour conditioning. Read these and then try putting what the book says into practice if your girlfriend is up for it. If not, ease off and maybe find something else to do.

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5c147b No.78931

Long story short, hypnosis isnt real. Its roleplay. Its a fetish. The only mind control that is proven to have worked was mkultra and doing that level of torture to a living person will literally land you in jail

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c45990 No.78934

>>78849

just go to africa and treat the women like shit there, nobody really cares about joggers

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0f88c5 No.78940

>>78931

Hypnosis works perfectly well to change behaviours when it's done with skill in a consensual setting - Hypnosis is not mind control, you appear to be confusing the two.

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82302a No.79001

How about don't force sexual acts on your gf, and don't attempt to manipulate her? You're a sick fuck. That's borderline rape, and most definitely domestic abuse. Get help.

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