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9be065 No.75941

Hi All,

Relapsing hypnofag here.

For a change I thought I'd listen to something that doesn't rot my mind.

So, I know you'd all probably think that I'm some kind of a twisted sicko, and I appreciate that this type of hypno is hugely unpopular, but does anyone have any really good self-improvement files?

Confidence, weight loss, fitness, maybe even desire to plough the wife now and again. Any alpha male stuff would do too.

I'd really appreciate if somebody shared 几工片片工's files:

Confident Seduction

In the zone

Strong Boy

Weight Loss.

And welcome any other suggestions for good tists.

Thanks!

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f5a6a0 No.75942

Dunno about positive hypnosis. Maybe hypnosis is the problem. Why don't you try some general purpose useful podcasts? You could do worse than starting with The Art of Manliness.

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34690d No.75960

Doubtful that you're going to find any more, i've been looking too.

e.g i'm in your shoes but i need to gain weight instead of losing it, there are only two files i know of that focus on this and both of them are about feederism humiliation with findom thrown in and both require the listener to exclusively listen to the domme and no other.

I imagine the same is true of pretty much every erotic hypnotist.

"Real" hypnosis practitioners make their money from actual sessions about real problems, or imagined, or they just bullshit seminar.

Hypnodommes make their money from simps and incels, AND IT'S IN THEIR BEST FINANCIAL INTERESTS TO KEEP YOU THAT WAY.

There are exceptions of course.

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b989dd No.75961

>>75960

I like to say that the experience i'm alluding to here: >>75930 was that i listened to her workout submissive. Not sure if it's strictly self help, it bound working out and losing weight to subby pleasure. However, i listened pre corona, and i still work out every day, it absolutely helped me to get my ass moving. And i can say i'm not the couch potatoe i was late 2019 anymore.

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9be065 No.75971

I've never tried DF, so if anyone has that file, can you please vola it?

Also, has the wolfgirl fag ever produced anything, even a beta version?

I don't think hypno is a problem in itself. It will definitely work for weight loss and exercise. Especially if it is from a sub perspective. As the previous poster said, there's non-erotic hypnotists doing self-help sessions.

If I was in my teens, modern erotic hypno would have probably ruined me. The stuff is too destructive, and then there's 乃卂爪乃丨 - pure poison, no matter how sweet it tastes.

I think once you've been around the block a few times, one's tolerance to destructive shit increases, be it hypno, drugs or loose women.

For Alpha stuff, hypno probably won't work, as hypno requires that you submit to the tist and give away your control.

Still, brainwashing stuff should work just fine. I actually wonder if something can be cobbled together using 乃卂爪乃丨 as the base - just have suggestions to exercise, loose weight, lead a healthy life, act with confidence and be a pussy magnet read out by the TTS instead of the destructive sissy shit.

Is there a pack with 乃卂爪乃丨 background sound samples for download anywhere?

I remember art of manliness when it just started up lol. Must be over 10 years ago. Some good reads there, but I'm after trancing and some healthy brainwashing right now.

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9be065 No.75972

匚卄卂尺ㄥㄖㄒㄒ乇 had a "Sexy Boy" file in her old archive. Good file, but quite vanilla.

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27c009 No.75974

Requested 几工片片工 files: r/1wj0a33p8

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34690d No.75976

>>75971

>For Alpha stuff, hypno probably won't work, as hypno requires that you submit to the tist and give away your control.

This is where you are wrong imo, too much femdom hypnosis maybe?

Keep in mind my previous post which points out the reason (i believe anyway) for this, they are hypnotizing you into becoming more hypnotizable to them specifically.

I.E you are conditioning yourself to respond to femdom triggers and to think in terms of femdom when you think of hypnosis.

Even 几工片片工, who is by far the least exploitative hypnodomme i've listened to, tells you from the start about powerful women and the effect they have, and will continue to have, on you.

Submission + hypnosis is, naturally, very effective as submissives must always trust their domme by giving up control and you can only be effected by hypnosis (exceptions apply) if you trust the hypnotist.

But both can be done separately or mixed together to specific taste which is why i've been finding the erohypno niche to be increasingly frustrating.

Everything is copypasta shit with different accents and few seem to actually know anything about hypnosis (or even submission) and instead churn out audial fantasies ABOUT hypnosis, which would be fine if they were labelled as such but they aren't usually, to feed to porn addicts who are just consuming whatever makes their dicks twitch to completion.

I have listened to 乃卂爪乃丨 for instance, which is real hypnosis imo, and ,regardless of your opinion on the ethics of it, it is much more than a faptrack to coom to.

Even months later, considering my behaviour in retrospect while keeping in mind the triggers and their supposed effects, i can point out specific times the triggers may have worked.

E.G jealousy of porn bimbos which i had never felt before, questioning my mental faculties when i try to recall things that happened long ago and can't,(this specifically manifested as a fear that i will never be able to remember correctly and should just give up on trying which was depressive rather than arousal inducing) building frustration when i can't express myself during a session due to outside factors (which kind of relates to the "need to dress up and behave like x" i suppose…)

All of this is very uncomfortable outside of the context i was led to expect btw and it was only recently i was able to put it into context.

There was none of the comfort promised and all of the discomfort.

I was not reassured that it was ok to be dumb and not remember, if that was a part of the triggers it did not work and the jealousy did nothing but make me angry at the pornstar and myself for feeling stupid and futile feels.

Keep in mind i only listened twice when they first came out and revisted them about a week ago and tried to keep track of all the triggers and their descriptions to see if any were effecting me.

I don't know how i got so far off track in this post but tl;dr is

>tl;dr i disagree with the fact that "alpha" won't work because hypnosis is inherently submissive, i believe it to be instead about trust which is a major part of submission but i think the trust is more important than the submission.

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b6e74f No.75978

>>75976

>either fapbait or god-tier but absolute mind poison

Yeah it sucks, wish I knew how 乃卂爪乃丨 and. some others learned. I'd try my hand at some personal files but alas it's probably a talent/years of experience thing.

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34690d No.75996

>>75978

It's literally just reading about it anon, i doubt it would take years to read a couple of books and list all the most effective(by report) hypnotic methods to compile into a single session hoping for the best.

Don't gatekeep yourself anon, nothing is as hard as it looks. The little armless chinese boy who can play piano with his feet isn't some fucking pedal genius, he just practiced with his feet a lot. and probably got no doggo for dindin if he stopped.

As much as i'm saying that 乃卂爪乃丨 files are real hypnosis, that doesn't mean they are particularly great.

A weed might be considered beautiful when it grows upon a pile of shit.

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b6ca1d No.76007

Thank you very much for the files!

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b6ca1d No.76009

>>75976

I guess you're right in that hypnosis itself only requires trust. Hypnosis fetish, which walks hand-in-hand with erotic hypno is more about giving away control though.

From my personal experiences, a completely vanilla hypno session is not that different from meditating. It's, effectively, guided meditation.

Add a pretty female voice, some dirty talk and arousal & pleasure triggers, and I go deeper, most likely because they distract my attention and help relax.

Much much deeper trance is achieved when I accept to hand over the control to the tist. This is turning erotic hypno to 11.

The reason I mention 乃卂爪乃丨 in a self-improvement thread (rofl) is because I think that's the strongest hypno created so far. Interestingly enough, created with TTS, which in the past was thought to be far inferior to a skilled tist's voice. E.g. I don't think 几工片片工 ever wrote a script - she was just reading them, but doing it in a way that very few can replicate. 乃卂爪乃丨 seems to be highly addictive, extremely effective and with long-lasting post-hypno suggestions. And I only listened to it a few times a long time ago.

I've got a couple books on hypno, but the outcome would probably be just another medium quality hypno script. I don't think that's particularly difficult. Getting it to 乃卂爪乃丨-level efficiency is a whole different game.

So here's where my thinking comes from - run 乃卂爪乃丨 induction, and then get Salli to read a slightly adapted self-improvement script. Can southern beanmane it up with 乃卂爪乃丨-style sidetrack, but instead of destructive shit and "you want to suck cock" replace that with positive affirmations and "pretty girls will want to suck your cock" sort of shit. Add some 乃卂爪乃丨-style sound effects if I can find a "developer pack" for it. There's about a 5% chance that I'll actually get to do this and about 1% chance that I'll finish what I started, but wtf, yolo.

Might start with just Combining a 乃卂爪乃丨 induction (before it gets weird) and copy-pasting a WMM text script into Salli.

For tonight however, I've got a date with 几工片片工.

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34690d No.76015

>>76009

You might be better deconstructing the entire series of files into their base triggers. (I think they were made like puzzle pieces anyway)

More work but more flexibility too.

I think this is what 乃卂爪乃丨 did to be honest.

This way you can layer them on top of each other and re-organize it quickly as you get feedback.

I don't think you should copy the 乃卂爪乃丨 induction.

Inductions should be the easy part anon.

Bubble induction isn't even 乃卂爪乃丨's and it is the most effective indution. (by review at least)You jsut need a good visual analogy for moving from point a (lucidity) to point b (trance)

In fact, i'm pretty sure there was a few inductions i've heard that didn't mention "deeper".or "down" at all and they still brought me to trance.

Anyway, if you do decide to pursue this i wish you the best of luck and i think many people would genuinely be interested in hypnosis that is non-sissy/findom/femdom/etc but is still powerful.

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b6ca1d No.76039

BTW here's the 匚卄卂尺ㄥㄖㄒㄒ乇's file I've mentioned earlier.

https://hypnodb.com/ 匚卄卂尺ㄥㄖㄒㄒ乇-呂尺丹と/Sexy-Boy

Went with 几工片片工's Weight loss last night.

I expected it to be a bit more sexed up. Quite vanilla, but still, always a pleasure to listen to 几工片片工. Slept like a child after it.

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b6ca1d No.76095

In the meantime, does anyone have DF's workout file to share

Thank you.

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b6ca1d No.76096

Also, has anyone tried/does anyone have any of the following?

Mistress Candice - Alpha Male

卂几卂乃乇ㄥㄥ乇 Katz (Who the fuck is she?)

- Become a sexual magnet

- Super Ego boost.

Jenny DeMilo

- Powerful sexual Energy

- High Libido?

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b6ca1d No.76129

Bump?

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59c2f3 No.76251

bumpety bump?

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000000 No.76362

>>75971

> has the wolfgirl fag ever produced anything, even a beta version?

So far, I have copious and growing notes and a very long reading list.

As for the main series itself, I don't think there can be a beta version - "Wolfgirl" is the kind of thing that really has to be right.

If the Muse is so inclined, I may have some alpha-level preliminary scripts sooner, but I'd expect them to be disappointing compared to my goals. Maybe I should write them anyway even if I'm sure they'll be crap…

>>76009

> run 乃卂爪乃丨 induction, and then get Salli to read a slightly adapted self-improvement script

The actual induction used in the B4mb1 B1mb0 Atrocity was the "Lutz Bubble Induction" with a small modification - changing the original "hypno fun" trigger to "bimbo doll" to better fit the BaBibA theme. You could make the same modification for your theme, or just use the original induction and the "hypno fun" trigger, which might work well for associating exercise with fun.

> some 乃卂爪乃丨-style sound effects if I can find a "developer pack"

B4mb1 Pr1m3 stated that he just scoured the Internet to find the sound effects he wanted. He said he typically spent a few weeks just collecting a library of sound effects before sitting down to make the files. Sadly, I doubt we'll hear from him again and I don't think B4mb1 is able to drive that "bus" very well - or at all.

Sorry to take so long to answer - 8kun had broken Tor posting and just now fixed it … at least if you do a bit of a hack to actually post via the hidden service.

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59c2f3 No.76380

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Thanks wgf.

I've had a go through the induction & deepener scripts and cleansed them from the 乃卂爪乃丨 poison, but reading them, I reckon they are still too destructive. Both seem to be geared towards getting you completely addicted to the dopamine rush from listening to this hypno. The stuff ended up being nowhere near "self-improvement". I've decided to pull the plug on it for now.

Hard to find the balance between lightly arousing self-improvement erotic hypno and self-destructing hypnoporn with suggestions to exercise.

Apart from making 乃卂爪乃丨 more benign, I think it's about a week's work including all relevant reading, so not exactly a huge job to do - you should just start issuing wolfgirl in parts, especially if you have files for it already, otherwise you'll never get anything done.

几工片片工's weight loss file is terrific tbh (no surprise here, considering the tist), as is 匚卄卂尺ㄥㄖㄒㄒ乇's Sexy boy. Strong boy was a dud and I haven't listened to the other 2 yet.

Any other files into the self improvement collection would be greatly appreciated.

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78595d No.79853

How much would https://ms丹し句ヨ尺.com/audio/communicable-confidence-training-hfo/ qualify?

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