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ef8ca3 No.72887

Evening, /hypno/ - I'm hoping you can help me with a dilemma I'm facing.

I've been interested in erotic hypno for years, but I always feel like the files I listen to/watch never have the intended effect. I've tried audio, visual, and basically any other format of hypno to try to induce a "proper" trance.

Are there any tips that experienced folks here have for someone who has difficulty getting into it? Anything I can do to help boost the effects/make it easier to slip into trance? Any help would be appreciated.

Also, feel free to include suggestions of particular authors and/or content that you think works well. I'm not particularly picky about the genre.

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000000 No.72888

You get deeper trance with just audio. It gets stronger if your mind is tired (like before sleep). Being naked, lying in bed on the back helps. And headphones of course. I prefer in-ear.

For content, 几工片片工 千卂ㄒ卂ㄥ乇 is probably the best choice. Not very enticing for fapping, but most agree it's the strongest and most enjoyable hypno. And it's actual hypno. Also good for beginners, gets progressively stronger and makes you better at trancing.

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000000 No.72889

Honestly making it so cancer to post with Tor kills the whole board

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d747d1 No.73001

>>72887

>>72888

I fully concur with this (aside from preferring over-ear). No other hypnotist has enhanced my trances in general as much as 几工片片工 千卂ㄒ卂ㄥ乇. She's legitimately straightforward about her intentions and therefore feels trustworthy. Use the chart in this thread, starting with Because 1 >>59159

Make sure your breathing expands your belly, not your chest. Deep breathing is a skill you can practice, and doing it well really helps the trance state.

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f3e8a0 No.73005

>>72887

Breathing is key.

Do a bunch of breathing exercises to expand your lung capacity. Practice holding your breath for longer and longer. Always breathe in through your nose.

Your exhale needs to be smooth, if you can't empty your lungs completely without your diaphragm/ribs spasm-ing then they need strengthened.

All this is really easy to do, but not necessary, and most hypno files encourage breathe control anyway. This is because the better you can breathe, the easier it is to remain in a specific state and the oxygen/carbon ratio in your blood control how relaxed or alert you are. This is applicable to exercise too.

Don't buy into the oxygen fad, you need carbon and oxygen, practice starving yourself of oxygen and getting used to higher carbon levels. This will also help with anxiety and stress as your chemo receptors gain tolerance to the stress hormones.

You might notice during hypnosis that you breathe in one nostril more than the other, that's because your nostrils control which side of your brain is more active by expanding and contracting throughout the day.

Your nose has erectile tissue in it.

Sorry for the autismo post.

>tl;dr breathe

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43f36d No.73043

>>72887

>Also, feel free to include suggestions of particular authors and/or content that you think works well. I'm not particularly picky about the genre.

几工片片工 is always okay for beginners.

The hypnotist I highly recommend is Domina 丂卄乇ㄥㄥ乇 尺丨ᐯ乇尺丂, she is alarmingly powerful. I think she is actually helped by the voice style she chooses.

To explain, 几工片片工 comes across as a woman with a powerful tone, so those who naturally resist trancing may be put on guard. 丂卄乇ㄥㄥ乇's voice is cute and whimsical so it kind of disarming, so you just listen, and then…… boom ……. she gets you.

I suggest you take a look at 丂卄乇ㄥㄥ乇's YT channel. She has some erotic full length stuff up there. There is a vanilla session too (covid stress relief); start with that so that you can figure out if her voice works for you.

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43f36d No.73044

>>73043

sorry for plebbit spacing, smh

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e5f7d8 No.78268

I was interest in hypnosis for so many years before the internet happened, and it was a while before I got good at going into trance. It's a skill that just takes practice.

Now I STRONGLY disagree with what people have said in here about breathing, and audio being best. STRONGLY.

The truth is everyone is different, and what works best for you, will work not so well for someone else.

I EFFEN HATE when the hypnotist is trying to control my breathing. I have some weird breathing issues and what is normal for them is very uncomfortable for me.

With audio, my mind wanders too much.

What works best for me, is the rarest form to find.

a live instant message session.

A good hypnotist will get a solid rythym going with their words.

Your field of vision will narrow to the screen.

if you have to wait for the next line of text, you will keep reading the previous line which reinforces it.

it gives my whole brain something to focus on which just does not happen in any other format.

prewritten scripts don't work well for me because i'm controlling the speed, and auto generated display lacks the rythym and is worse.

For me, the scenario above works better than a video, than in person, than audio, than anything, but of course is the hardest to experience.

Some hypnotists will have a style that fits you better.

but most of all it just takes practice.

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61075c No.80433

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Bump for interest. First post on this board though I have been lurking for a while, and I am wondering why there isn't more discussion about the general ability to become hypnotized. I struggle with it a lot, and up to now none of the tists I tried did really do anything. For reference I tried (my 1337speak-game sucks, please forgive):

/\/1|<|<1, who I like and think that she is skilled, but while I enjoy listening to her I couldn't feel any effect. To fix that I tried her loop (F411i/\/g D33p3r) for weeks, but sadly that also did nothing.

/\/1/\/4 (F0cu53d R3|4x4t|0/\/), who I also like because of her calm way to speak. I had a subscription to for a while because I thought her plentiful audio loops would do the trick after a while, but after a few months I gave up. Also I have to say that her files are a little plain, and her video content feels repetitive and sometimes uninspired, even the expensive stuff.

35uccubu5, to which I was also subscribed for half a year or so. I like the quick-speaking style of 3|3n4 despite it being completely different from what I was liking about /\/1/\/4 and was hoping her method of overwhelming her subject with words would help, but after a short while I felt no progress and became increasingly frustrated.

|\/|i4 Cr0ft who has very polished files, but also has some files (mainly her coproductions) which I for some reason find hilariously bad, despite them also having high production value. Also I liked her audio loops and followed her instructions to use them, but they didn't seem to have any effect.

Also tried a few others (83||4, 4m3thy5t, Fr3y4, but not as intense as the above mentioned. I tried a few susceptibility tests and to no one's surprise I fail them pretty hard, and seem to be firmly in the analytical department. Relaxation Inductions tend to bore me quickly, resistance inductions don't make me relaxed, and confusion inductions also don't really do the trick, and so doesn't fractionation. I was really hoping that the mentioned audio loops would help because I thought I could just brute force some hypnotizability into my brain, but after practising without success it occured to me that the effects might even be negative: When I saw no effect after a while I had the feeling that those sessions were burned up for me - like I had convinced myself that they are ineffective. Has anyone noticed a similar effect that a session was "lost" for him because he listened to it too often without any effect?

Also I'd like to hear about any experiences from people who also struggled to achive trance but then managed to do it. Were you able to "force" the issue with plenty of practice or did you just find a tist who you quickly clicked with?

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22f9f2 No.80436

https://www.hypnoticdreams.com/how-to-become-a-better-hypnotic-subject/

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776b00 No.80443

>>80433

Anon I've always been hard to hypnotise too.

I've often seen people recommend sticking with a file for weeks to a month on end to help it stick in - like yourself I actually find files are less effective the more I listen. I need the novelty to take me by surprise so my mind can't anticipate things it knows come next.

In terms of improving your susceptibility, it sounds like you've tried a wide range of hypnodommes and their recordings. Have you considered visiting an IRL hypnotist?

I found a kink friendly one in NYC during a visit but we didn't actually explore any kink suggestions. I just wanted to try one last ditch attempt to know for sure if I could be "properly" hypnotised.

It worked.

I was given a suggestion that locked my hand in place. Normally this kind of suggestion makes me "too relaxed to want to move it" or "willing to go along with it", which I know are often cited as proof of being hypnotised in themselves.

Not for me. Too vague. I wanted incontrovertible proof that I wasn't simply playing along.

And it worked. I really tried to move my arm. Couldn't do it.

I also asked him to give me a suggestion to help me sleep on my flight back. I have never managed to sleep soundly on a plane before.

Despite not flying back until several days later, I was out like a light until touchdown.

Hypnosis has been much more effective for me ever since.

So much of it is believing it works. And when you get stuck in a loop of it not working, it's very hard to break no matter how many people tell you you just have to go into it and tell yourself it will.

I would definitely recommend trying it in real life if possible, as your odds of suggestions working will be much greater.

Once that works, you'll know you can be hypnotised and recordings will have a much greater chance of working for you.

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776b00 No.80444

>>80433

Also, of those tists you cite, none of the ones I recognise leap out as particularly well regarded ones and the one I have tried before I found terrible.

If you want some really potent ones, I can recommend:

- M157r355 J0@nn3

Intense suggestions though and a bit of a timesink. Not ideal for a starter.

- K@5h@ 5h@k71

Nearly wholly chastity based. Doesn't grab you as immediately as J0@nn3 but much more insidious.

- MzD0minic@

Very potent. Also has a lot of Ds themes but from memory has lots more options that won't result in you mindlessly only jerking off to her and repeating mantras etc

- Obligatory mention of N1kk1 F@7@13

I like her style but personally she doesn't grab me as much as she does some other posters on here. Very well regarded though so worth a try.

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870b77 No.80445

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Posting here is hard, I get errors about images that can't be uploaded despite me not having included one. I even have to include one to be able to post at all. Is that a known problem? Didn't find anything in the sticky or FAQ about it. Using Chrome, and Dollchan is already deactivated because that also results in errors when trying to post.

>>80443

Thanks for the helpful reply. I wonder why this fetish or whatever you may call it isn't more widely discussed, I'd expect a board like this to have a lot more visitors tbh, and a thread like that to pe heavily populated.

>like yourself I actually find files are less effective the more I listen. I need the novelty to take me by surprise so my mind can't anticipate things it knows come next

This, I can relate very much. When I know what is coming and it hasn't worked before how can I ever convince myself that it will work now? There is the famous quote (which is NOT by Einstein apparently): "Insanity Is Doing the Same Thing Over and Over Again and Expecting Different Results". That's why I asked if anyone was able to force things by endless repetition, because that's actually something I'm good at. That at least would be a quantifiable approach: Listen X times and it will work, regardless if you think that it becomes ineffective. But I don't believe any longer that this would work.

>Have you considered visiting an IRL hypnotist?

I considered it, but I doubt it would help me, I'd be a nervous wreck, no matter how good the tist is. Doesn't even need to be kink involved, let's just say I have my deficiencies in human interaction.

>which I know are often cited as proof of being hypnotised in themselves. Not for me. Too vague. I wanted incontrovertible proof that I wasn't simply playing along.

So much this, and this isn't even a 呂尺丹と area. Of course I play along when asked to, I want this to work. And trying to sell this as actual hypnosis is harmful because it's obviously a cheap rethoric trick, which in return makes me think that if that is what the tist relies on to make her stuff work then she probably sucks. Generally the immersion shatters when any kind of physical suggestion is spoken which has no effect. Your eyelids are getting heavy… no they are not. They never are.

>And it worked. I really tried to move my arm. Couldn't do it.

Wow, I'm happy for you Anon, good job. I hope I will be able to achieve such things too in the future. I don't even want this to cater to some specific kink, the hypnosis itself is the kink and I feel like I'm missing out. Also I'm frustrated because of all the time I put in and I can't even say if I made any progress.

>And when you get stuck in a loop of it not working, it's very hard to break no matter how many people tell you you just have to go into it and tell yourself it will.

Yes, that is true. When I check out a new file and it develops into your usual relaxation induction I already go "not that shit again", and it's basically over. It's not like I could just change this by willpower, it just happens. I even am pretty confident that I can be hypnotized (during sports exercises I experienced situations which I think fit the bill), but by now I'm not sure if it will ever happen via mp3 or video. Still, I got conflicting information about if all people can be hypnotized. People who say "yes, everyone can" tend to be people who want to sell hypnosis stuff, so they are maybe not the most reliable source, while I also saw studies that about 25% of all people can't be hypnotized and no one really knows why.

>>80444

K@5h@ 5h@k71 was one of the first tists I discovered and who raised my interest in the topic, but back then not very much of her was available for me, and also I wasn't really committed back then. I will give J0@nn3 a try. I don't know anything about MzD0minic@ and wouldn't know where to get stuff of her (except here of course), but I will remember your recommendation. And N1kk1, yeah, I like her a lot, I wish her stuff would work on me, since she seems like really enjoyable: Nice voice, a good mixture of raw hypno and kink content, and straightforward about her intentions.

>>80436

Thanks, I checked it out, it's a good page overall, not just only the linked article. I guess I suck really hard at the whole focus and vizualisation complex. Also about the part about practising listening I have the weird feeling that when people are talking to me they are not really talking to me, but to some other entity beneath me which just passes the meaning of the words on to me, so it feels like it doesn't really concern me on an emotional/subconscious level. Not sure if this sounds weird, maybe I explained it poorly.

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021242 No.80446

>>80445

Same anon as earlier here.

> And trying to sell this as actual hypnosis is harmful because it's obviously a cheap rethoric trick, which in return makes me think that if that is what the tist relies on to make her stuff work then she probably sucks.

That isn't quite what I said. I said that I wanted incontrovertible proof and not something that felt like I was playing along.

The argument that suggestions that just feel like you're playing along is hypnosis are valid, particularly - obviously - when it comes to behavioural suggestions.

I've had periods of listening to a particular tist where I've done stuff that felt like "playing along" and, when I later stopped listening, would admit I wouldn't (or even couldn't) have done that without the involvement of hypnosis.

Extending the duration of chastity streaks far longer than I've managed with willpower alone is a good example. Repeating mantras is a smaller example and, if made to do while hypnotised, I now use as a good yardstick that the hypnotist is effective on me.

All I was really saying here was that initially I wanted something that my mind couldn't rationalise away and "felt" like I was definitely, absolutely, no questions asked hypnotised.

> Generally the immersion shatters when any kind of physical suggestion is spoken which has no effect. Your eyelids are getting heavy… no they are not. They never are.

This doesn't necessarily mean that much.

For years I got frustrated because files that confidently told you your dick was getting hard would do nothing for me (and I *love* the idea of one's arousal being flicked on and off like a switch by the hypnotist).

The tist in NYC told me it was a common suggestion people stick in recordings and not all that effective of one.

Instead, I have *much* better luck when the suggestion is framed around increased arousal and no mention of how hard or soft your dick is.

But the point I'm making here is that one type of suggestion not working is not an indicator that you can't be hypnotised.

I thought I'd never have a HFO years ago and now every time I have one and wake up with a soaked dick I find myself debating whether it "counts"!

Talk about trying to rationalise away results!

I am fairly confident that visual hallucination suggestions will never work on me. But I still know I can definitely be hypnotised.

Physical sensations can often be harder for people to get results with than things like behavioural etc.

A good hypnotist should be framing the eyelids suggestion as something like "you may notice your eyelids are feeling heavy" rather than stating that they are.

This gives you an out to not be dwelling on it if they aren't.

Regardless, it's not something to be bothered by. Just go along with it and if they say they're heavy but they're not, just pretend they are and close them when they tell you to close them.

> When I check out a new file and it develops into your usual relaxation induction I already go "not that shit again",

If IRL hypnosis (or even a live online session) is out, then all I can offer is advice for recordings and my advice here would be not to care.

I know you say you can't will yourself not to think this way. So instead reframe thinking about what you want to get out of a hypnotist session.

Say you were listening to 5h@k71 and you want to experience hypnotically compelled chastity (I know you say the hypnosis itself is the link, so just humour me for this example.)

From what you've said so far, you're focused on the fact that it's not working and you're thinking about that every time you go under.

So stop trying to get it to work. Stop wanting results.

Instead, treat each session as your time to relax for the day.

I would imagine even for someone like you, a progressive relaxation induction still helps you relax.

Go along with it and if you find yourself thinking that a suggestion that your eyes are heavy isn't working, be cool with it and make that thought your cue to pretend that they are.

Think to yourself "this is how I'm going to spend 40 minutes relaxing today. Anything extra that happens is just a bonus."

Anticipation can be the enemy of results.

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