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Phil Collins: 67 Years with You Man on the Corner 01/30/18 (Tue) 22:26:41 No.420

Happy birthday, dad.

And face it, anti-Phil crowd, if it weren't for Mr. Collins Genesis would have had a nasty disbandment right after "The Lamb" tour, or go on with an expensive shit-tier vocalist. Perhaps without Collins I don't even know if the band would have survived after "Nursery Cryme," and we wouldn't have such fantastic lore like 'Supper's Ready' be the incredible piece that it is. Peter was the prose, Steve was the technique, Mike was the ink, Tony was the mind, and Phil was the glue.

On the other hand, Genesis would have remained a cult band without Phil. Short-lived and cerebral, they might have been the Velvet Underground of prog. They would still be the most circlejerked British prog outfit on 8chan, but for entirely different reasons. American Psycho would've been a slightly different story, in place of Phil Collins and Genesis would probably be someone like Lionel Ritchie and there'd be more focus on Huey Lewis and the News. Randy Newman and Sarah McLachlan would have took the Best Original Song Oscar in 2000 for "When She Loved Me," because not only there wouldn't be Phil Collins, there also wouldn't be Disney's "Tarzan" (1999). Maybe "Blame Canada" would have taken it on behalf of South Park, but then we wouldn't have the classic song "You'll Be in... Me."

And possibly the greatest outcome that would come if Phil Collins were never born, there would be no Undertale. Undertale's emotional core wouldn't be possible without the impact Collins made on Genesis. If it did exist, it would have a completely different story, and there'd be no meaning to the trash memes it spawned, so they wouldn't even be popular memes to begin with. The Internet might have been better off.

So be grateful that humanity has been blessed with Phil Collins sixty-seven years ago today. There's a lot of garbage that came with it but there's double the amount of gold behind it.

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Man on the Corner 02/07/18 (Wed) 01:30:48 No.421

I've thought about the various points Genesis could have ended — after The Lamb, after Wind & Wuthering, after We Can't Dance — but I've never thought about after Nursery Cryme or Trespass. It's odd that I haven't considered that, because the departure of Ant Phillips was the only time the band ever gave serious thought to calling it quits. If Genesis stopped after Trespass, there would be no Genesis fans, at least no more than there are Storm Corrosion fans. You'd just have prog fans listening to this one-album wonder and speculating over what could have been. The thing is, though, Trespass isn't that great. It's a good album and I love listening to it, but I have to appreciate it in perspective of what the band would later become, and taking it at *ahem* face value, I don't think it's quite good enough to become a cult classic without the discography that succeeded it. If it ended after Trespass, people wouldn't just ignore From Genesis to Revelation like they do now, or rather, they couldn't.

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Man on the Corner 03/13/18 (Tue) 00:06:20 No.435

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Somewhat off-topic but i went to Phil's concert in Mexico City last Saturday and it was great, he played some Genesis stuff along with his solo songs and it was all pretty enjoyable even with the lower key on all songs, and The Pretenders were pretty good as a supporting act too.

Embed is from the concert but its not mine because my phone's camera is a chink piece of shit that refused to focus on anything.

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Man on the Corner 03/13/18 (Tue) 00:53:36 No.437

>>435

There's something about this that's, in a way, better than the Turn It On Again tour. More artists have to accept that if you're changing the key to compensate for voice change, you can't just play the song as if you're still in your prime. Lowering the key is not a small change. If this year's bout of "We won't rule a reunion out" amount to anything (they won't), it would have to be more Not Dead Yet and less Turn It On Again. And I liked Turn It On Again.

Of course, the best reunion possibility would be a new album instead of a tour, but that's even less likely.

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Man on the Corner 03/13/18 (Tue) 13:17:34 No.438

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>>437

At this point, I don't really care for a Genesis reunion. Their discography is complete in my book with a very diverse set of albums book-ended by the very dated (and questionable) From Genesis to Revelation and Calling All Stations respectively. A reunion album with old material might be interesting given if we get the chance to hear Peter sing a Phil song or Phil bring his voice to a song from Calling All Stations, though those recordings may never happen.

Might be off-topic, but there's a band called Swans that were recently still active after a 13-year hiatus. They mostly consist of men in their 60s and I guess are around the same age as the former members of Genesis today. Their newer work is very powerful and inspiring when you consider that, and some fans argue they were in their prime that recent, though I'd personally argue that they were their best in the 1990s.

Embed is from a recent October 28, 2017 Swans concert performing the opus of that tour: "The Knot." It's not as accessible as Genesis, I'll give you that, but if the remains of Genesis had this much energy at this stage of life, they could put on a great show and a couple of albums, though I suppose not everyone ages as well as Michael Gira, but at least they're not dead yet!

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Man on the Corner 03/13/18 (Tue) 16:54:10 No.439

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>>438

Shit, there's a solid case that Steve Hackett's prime was the 2000s, as soon as Roger King started working with him. As Genesis fans, it's tough to beat the sentimental value of pre-Cured Hackett because those albums were the 70s Genesis sound expanded, but that run from Darktown to Wolflight was something else. Those albums sound nothing like Genesis — they sound like modern prog albums and are much closer to Porcupine Tree than Genesis — but they evoke the same feelings that Genesis gave me and incorporate many of the same themes — the dark atmosphere, the narrative lyrics, the experimentation — into a modern sound. It's not unlike 80s Genesis in that way, those albums kept up with modern sounds but continued the same traditions of the band. In an alternate universe where Genesis kept going into the 2000s and were committed to prog, they'd be doing what Hackett's band did. I like Flower Kings as much as the next guy, but I'd be disappointed if Genesis became a nostalgia group rather than a band who brings the same spirit into a modern sound like Hackett.

I was extremely disappointed with The Night Siren, but I wouldn't count Hackett and co. out yet. He's still surrounded with the same personnel, and Out of the Tunnel's Mouth was a relative disappointment, albeit not as bad as The Night Siren, and then Hackett came back with Beyond the Shrouded Horizon which was awesome.

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Man on the Corner 01/30/19 (Wed) 22:47:12 No.482

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It's that time of year again, lads. Send your regards.

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