/gamergatehq/ - GamerGate Headquarters

If you're seeing this post twice on the catalog it's because I had to repost it. The other gives me a not found error.

>>321225

The salt is real. You should continue reading. I think you'll find it interesting.

>>321227

What e-celeb did i say by name? Are seriously trying to say Jim is an e-celeb? Also I have watched IA's videos sense before he was IA. So im just used to calling him by name sense he changes it every other year.

bump. I notice that around here IA seems to be a sensitive subject. Even if only briefly mentioned. But they don't want to adress the other 99% of the post. Fucking pathetic.

>>321232

I don't browse revolt. Stop using revolt as an excuse for fucking everything! You can't adress the post you have to jump around it in some way like a pussy faggot. Talk about my points for one faggot.

>>321225

>Stopped reading there.

Smart move. Everything following it is just essentially variations on that theme.

>>321234

fucking kek. I mentioned him in the OP twice. One of which was in relation to another user saying bullshit. You act like I mention him all the time when most of the time I mention him is in reply to users who get butthurt over a snarky remark. GG's extreme hatred for him over him leaving is pathilogical and unhealthy.

Gotta love those excuses. You are such a faggot. It's gotta be alll about Jim. you can't focus on the initial point of the thread. It's always something with you faggots isn't it.

There is seriously something wrong with a group that when a large list of reasons why I think their movement is dead is placed in front of them they can't help but hone in on mention of a complete faggot too afraid of e-fame to stick around. I look forward to you trying to address my points in the OP. But until then, nice try faggot!

>>321236

I'll give you the first few but when I mention twitter bullshit.is when it stops.

I don't think it's dead or a corpse. I agree with a few things you said, like

>Getting distracted with Twitter bullshit

>Having KIA be the biggest GG forum trumping even the twitter tag's numbers.

>Attacking your allies instead of your enemies.

>Not focusing on games journalism.

>Consumer watchdog idea.

>Thinking you've won meanwhile Gawker and others still stand.

>Going after people that don't relate to ethics. (Allison Rapp)

>8chans glitchiness

The problem is a lot of people have grown complacent with what we've accomplished and decided they don't need to push too much. People have gotten lazy. A big cause of this is people are getting tired of the work, and the people who used to hand us stuff to work with on a silver platter aren't so retarded now.

People also underestimate how effective the shills have been. Twitter bullshit, attacking allies, and focusing on things besides games journalism have always been goals of the shills. It keeps us focused on unimportant things and causes division between the different factions of gamergate. They're easy to spot if you're still pretty active in gamergate, but to a lot of onlookers, they're not, because they're not familiar with them and they're not exposed to them that much. The people who are fresh into gamergate, image boards, or not being a kool aid liberal are specially unfamiliar with that stuff and they have a very hard time seeing it.

I don't see a reason we can't at least discuss this. I realize it's not the greatest thing to talk about, but a little self reflection can make us stronger. Obviously I don't agree with that whole list, I don't care about the ecelebs. I don't care about the "liberal slant" either. Gamergate pulled in a lot of people who were liberals and made them reassess how liberal they were, much like how Trump is pulling in moderates and people who aren't traditionally Republican. Of course things will be a little different than what people who were always in that camp are used to. But, excluding people because of their political beliefs doesn't seem like the kind of thing gamergate should be about.

It's always been focused on fixing video games. And by attacking liberals like you are, you're actually doing something you're complaining about gamergate doing. You're basically attacking your own allies because you don't like their personal politics, even if they agree with you on a vast majority of things about games journalism and the state of video games.

But you see now how well the divide and conquer shilling has come, because you are basically experiencing it first hand. You should perhaps tell us what made you think that the liberal issue in gamergate exists and that it's a massive enough problem to warrant such a negative outlook on gamergate.

We should be doing what we can to get things growing again. There's no reason why gghq and stuff should be slowing down. Games journalism still sucks. More people are aware, but we could be doing a lot more. And we're not going to achieve that with gamergate unless we ask some questions and come up with some answers. That's just my two cents at least. But we could accomplish a lot more if we admit that there are some problems here and we come up with some decent answers.

>>321239

I agree. What do you think can be done to get out of that mindset?

So how do we get rid of them? The best thing I could come up with would be to make a board about gaming journalism. We could even bring back the emailing campaigns. Those really worked back in the day.I don't like the idea of different factions of GamerGate. Arn't we all supposed to be united under a common goal?

We used to just be all in one group. We didn't have time for infighting because we were all focused on one thing.

And im not even some super right wing conservitive. Im a politicly confused indipendant. But KIA seems to have a lot of SJWs there. Or at least SJW ish. That's what I was refurring to.I fucking agree 100%

>>321241

Read past line seven.

>>321244

So have I and you're so fucking right.

I almost think it would take wiping the slate clean and starting anew to get back to 2014 standards of achivements.

>>321247

>I agree. What do you think can be done to get out of that mindset?

I honestly don't know. The problem is that there are already cliques established that want power, and I imagine someone moving up as an outsider would be attacked over it, much like people like Oliver (or even Acid Man) were. That's sort of why I want to talk about it. It almost feels like we need some sort of op to start working together and stop hating each other before we jump back into accomplishing something.

Maybe some sort of thing like gamergate game servers and stuff just so we could hang out together? I have no idea, I think actual meetups are cancerous and would never personally go to one. But at the very least we could get to know each other a little better if we just had little meetup type things online.

>>321247

>The best thing I could come up with would be to make a board about gaming journalism.

>I don't like the idea of different factions of GamerGate.

Divide and Conquer shilling. Take your revolt elsewhere, since we're so "dead" to you

>>321222

OKAY LETS SEE… MIGHT AS WELL POST IN A TROLL THREAD.

>IA leaving

debatable, you have no way of knowing what the alternate future with him still around would amount to, but I will argue ragequitting for such a petty reason as not following 100% his master plan is a good indicatior of why e-celeb bullshit is frown upon, and by bullshit I mean giving importance beyond interest to anyone, it inflate the e-peen to the point their brain get oxygen deprived.

>MundaneShill taking advantage of everyone's panic and confusion by making a response trying to sound reasonable.

Again, e-celeb, the main point should be share relevent stuff, ignore self-important faggotry, and that include ptetending to have all the answers and demanding others do what THEY view as the right solution.

>People thinking Matt sounded reasonable.

this is a non issue, him sounding reasonable is not a problem in and of itself, him and others telling GG what to do is the problem

>Matt saying Jim left cause GG wasn't doing what he wanted.

non issue, he left and whatever true motive it was, unless its from the horses mouth it should be regarded as storytelling.

>People not seeing through that lie

morons, morons everywhere, that include in GG, hopefully less that in other realms.

>People regurgitating that lie.

if said affirmation was a lie, it still didnt change a lick in the master plan of exposing unethical practices in the gaming industry, collusion, and corruption. in fact so far only the IA leaving part had any impact on that goal, to an unknown degree, but mostly as a fact cruncher.

>People not analyzing what Jim said.

define what you mean

>Getting distracted with Twitter bullshit

sorry but no, twitter salt fueled me a lot more into continuing than mere digging alone could ever do, what people failed to do is seek entertainment thru the twitter medium, butthurts is one hella of a drug.

>Muh PR

this one is the most stupid argument ever, shills played both sides my saying how PR was the most important thing/PR was so useless we should have went RWDS everywhere, burning every single bridges. The dellusion was both thinking ya could effectively burn down the industry whole, or make the media portray you fairly. it was never about PR' in fact it usually was secondary in any equation, every single charity and outreach to alternate media was done for reasons, the lulz and explaining what GG was in the 1st place and why we mad, we were not goona apologize for shit, but shoving GG thru the media, be it in good or bad light forced people to take notice, that all that was needed.

>Appealing to neutals by being one.

this one make no sense, ya cant drag people to GG by being neutral since it mean being fucking neutral. However many peopl saw what GG was after pretended neutrals get normies infected with more tame material, redpilling people with a pill the size of a truck wont work, and when they get hooked ya can go : it was me! DIO all along!

>Having KIA be the biggest GG forum trumping even the twitter tag's numbers.

out of anyones control, but the main reason for that was trice exoduced caused by moot and 2 burned out board owner, this might be one of the few legitimate reason you given so far.

>Letting the furry board get higher numbers than GGHQ.

out of our control, mainly due to above reason

>Attacking your allies instead of your enemies.

wrong board, GGHQ was never the one to attack our allies, we defended /pol/ on this board from "pol" lame ass LARPer trying to burn bridge, same reasoning goes for KiA, you yourself just blamed KiA, yet you just blamed attacking allies, make up your mind. gghq also extended numerous olive branches to the revoltards, despite us knowing darn well it was controlled oposition and was hellbent on taking gghq down. but because of the offchance some from there were just useful idiots that drank the koo-aid, we kept the channels open, unlike thirs who only ever focused on attacking gghq, rilling /pol/ into attacking gghq, and we suspect operated by an /intl/

>Not focusing on games journalism.

how about ya give us specific example of how we did not expose anything we found. we aint psyops able to break their secrets, our main talent was spreading misconducts that came to our attention, then again its hard to do our job when we get attacked non stop from within by shills.

>Consumer watchdog idea.

no movement last forever, at least we were not blinded and knew darn well that is what it was gonna devolve into, and not because we let it, hell we tried to kept this going as hard we could, but nothing is eternal.

>Thinking you've won meanwhile Gawker and others still stand.

Only Delusional people tough we ever had a chance at doing it all on our own, if the playing field was even maybe, but not when you operate anonymously, ya end up fighting the MSM, the SJW, the PC police, the actual real shills from within, and yes ya need to fight bad PR, if only to be allowed the reasonable doubt defense so normies be willing to listen, even skeptically, going full neonazie on normies never work. dont try to create good PR, but at LEAST have proof against th bad one, how its bullshit, if you show the normie the lies, then be more receptive.

>Getting co-opted by liberal autists.

>Not sending e-mails to advertisers.

we did, they wisened up, diminishing return effect, those willing to drop ads already did, those remaining would not despite continous e-mails, so ya need NEW scandals to rev emails again, ya neeed some meat to put in them e-mails.

>Becoming more leftist over time.

bullshit, if anything it started leftist and slowly drifted center, and that not quite acurate, the spread was already widely left-right, only the libertarian axis seemed to have any concentration whatsoever.

>Letting KIA mods get out of control more than once.

if KiA is a problem, why bitch when they fuck up? or was KiA useful then? Also might wanna take this issue on whoever runned KiA, this is a moot point here, as we are not all of GG.

>Having mods in the first place

no moderation does not work, 2 board owner got burned out for slacking over and over on the rules to the point board became unmanageable, and if they tried to ban shitposter ya get feed the MUH FREEZE PEACH bullshit. and its BS because it was never what was said that was the problem, it was the blatant shitposting format, lies, and heavy shilling. ya cannot have any organisation without moderation, ya want no moderation? okay fine, lets become /b/, sure we are gonna b all free to shitpost all day, but nothing ever gonna get done. boards and forums were meant to organize, not shitpost.

>Shills making money off GG.

this does not affect GG itself, also gotta be naive to think this would not happen, or be demoralized by it

>Losing your edge.

yes, our blade was dulled by the repetitive barrage of shills creating infighting, time passing by, lack of new ammo to use.

>Going after people that don't relate to ethics. (Allison Rapp)

No, this circle back to telling people what is right or wrong to do, in fact this is the very definition of MUH PR, people shouldbe free to take the avenue they want to fight this, and people saying otherwise, like you,need to fuck off already.

>8chans glitchiness

yes, this did not help at all.

I'm gonna add a new one

self entitled twat like yourself telling others what they did wrong

>>321253

Not a bad idea. What if we had a steam group?

>>321254

If GG is gonna get back to being good again posts like these need to stop.

>>321258

True but it lead up to the next few points happening

It is but these first few points happened right after each other. It's important to why GG started going downhill.

Again you should read these 3 as a timeline of events.

IA leaves Every1 confused MM makes video people think he's reasonable in that video. MM lies about IA. People believe lie and spread it around. That's kinda how they were intended to be read. It's the beginning, it's the beginning of what I believe to be GGs downfall.

Jim left a vocaroo when he left GG. Instead of analyzing his final message to GG and maybe benifiting from it they repeated Mundane Matt's lie.

.What I mean by twitter bullshit I mean stuff like focusing on stupid anti hashtags and getting involved with twitter drama with ecelebs.

No but later in 2015 people would bring out this PR argument like it meant something. Like oh we have to be nice to appease the journos who already hate our guts.

What I mean is you appeal to them by being passionate and assertive. There IS a problem and WE are gonna fix it.

Was it revolt who went after the Ralph retort's adsense? Was it Revolt who shut down threads about Milo's article? Show me proof that all of that was GGRevolt. Cause it sounds like you are making up excuses. Im so tired of this Revolt did it we're innocent shit! You guys are in the same fucking group. So that means you guys are responsible for each other's shit!

Im talking about post 2014. 2015 and onward is where GG started dying.

>>321259

The consumer watchdog idea is why nobody is writing emails to advertisers anymore.(pics related) this is what I fucking think of your consumer watchdog bullshit.

Post 2015 you've barely done any.

Nigga that's my opinion. I said she didn't have anything to do with ethics.

Oh am I entitled now? God forbid there be some fucking introspection.

>>321265

>>321265

More excuses right guys? Im obviously a shill even though I want to see this movement get better. Totally how a shill operates

Sorry for this big wall of text.

I still want to challenge Mundaneshill to a fight.

>>321267

this is far from being genuine introspection, and that's why everyone is egging you,

ya mixed a bunch of subjective pov of why it went downhill, with a heavy spread fingerpointing, a sprinkle of self-importance (the part where you lay down all these bullet points as "facts" cuz you know better than every one else, and especially cuz WE don't know any better) and a whiff of disingenuous where ya can't figure out why the livid hell would anyone can possibly think its a shit thread.

Ya want to supposedly this movement get better? (funny comming from the guy saying GG is dead and not "dying")

instead of being preachy, how about ya focus on whats important, say "okay, this movement is in a coma, It is so for a multitude of factor we might disagree about and that ultimately means nothing if we cant agree on what, instead lets she what can be done onward, I suggest bla bla bla, is my idea good? where are the flaws? how can we get more people to follow suit? are the goals realistic? what complementary ops can we do with small numbers? etc etc

>>321276

tl;dr there is no point exposing a problem if ya aint gonna work toward fixing it.

>>321244

wow look at all that convincing mspaint.

>>321277

>tl;dr there is no point exposing a problem if ya aint gonna work toward fixing it.

This anon said all that needs to be said.