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11f739 No.318366
>>318124
>surveymonkey.co.uk/r/NPZK9KM
This survey is kinda garbage for one major reason: some of the "solutions" to games getting censored presented as options within it are not always realistic.
I know that recently, patches for games like Nekopara make it seem like this is something possible for ALL GAMES EVER, but in reality Nekopara is a budget translation that isn't even well done. They were able to do it because they barely expended effort with the localization to begin with. Not to mention, Nekopara is a drastically simpler game than any given Fire Emblem or Xenoblade or Bravely Second.
Nobody is realistically playing Nekopara uncensored for the writing, so of course nobody really cares about all the grammar errors, mispellings, and flat dialogue or descriptions of anything in the text. Nekopara is about fucking catgirls, without it the game is absolutely useless. I uncensored the games immediately, speaking personally. I knew what I was in for, and wanted that specifically.
The 'separate copies' thing is even less realistic from a business perspective, particularly in North America, and particularly for a game like Fates. You release two editions of a game, one titled UNCENSORED, the other titled CENSORED, and Uncensored will of course win. Not necessarily because of the nature of the content in said game, but because of the implication that there is more content, period, for your dollar. This is basically a non-choice for most gamers as is, and therefore you'd see a massive glut of wasted physical content in stores for CENSORED. And as much as we all like to say THE ERA OF DIGITAL IS NOW, that's not necessarily true. Internet in the US, one of the largest markets for vidya, is shit. That alone ensures that physical copies of things are important. Nintendo's own internet infrastructure is weak, and only maintains significantly more uptime than say, XBL these days, because SIGNIFICANTLY FEWER PEOPLE ARE USING IT. Hell, even then, they still have to deal with people overwhelming their digital storefronts regularly during the few decent sales they run.
From Nintendo's perspective, its wiser to release one edition of the game, even digitally, even if it is CENSORED. It simply means less money spent on the product across the board. I know you'll all hate reading that, but videogames are a business first and foremost, and 'art' and 'feelings' and headpats a distant, distant second. At best, all that those latter things do is help facilitate the business side of things. Nintendo is a company that has always tried to keep costs on its games low, and it should not be a surprise that this extends to how they handle localization.
I keep seeing a complete misunderstanding on how Treehouse gets 'paid' for their work, usually the result of people parroting what a former localizer from an entirely different company has had to say about the subject. I can assure that Treehouse did not get paid 'extra' for 'extra changes'. These people are salaried employees of Nintendo of America, they do what they do because its their job, regardless of how long it takes or how much work they have to do. They are not an outside group contracted for anything, these are people with a varying amount of years at Nintendo as a whole. If there are any bonuses being paid to them, it will be from how much money Fates has been pulling in from the markets their localization has touched, and probably not any time soon. Hell, the Kid Icarus translation is monstrously different from Japanese original script, and is English-only iirc, and I doubt most people at Treehouse even got a raise for their effort.
To end the word salad here, saying "censorship is okay if you offer a version that isn't" is a non-starter solution, period, and that kinda damages the message of the operation I think.
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11f739 No.318390
>>318366
>"It sounds hard" the post
A waste of dubs.
Your defeatism concern-trolling is noted.
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11f739 No.318408
Are we mad about the censorship of the lewd bits, or the translation being full of shitty Tumblr-tier memes, or the dumbing down of a good series?
Not being an arsehole, genuinely curious what the beef is as I've not been following it much.
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11f739 No.318409
>>318408
The first two. The last one is irrelevant to TorrentialDownpour.
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11f739 No.318424
>>318366
If they really cared about money they wouldn't pander to this crowd in the first place. Only The Controllers care about money (who are usually in the middle not at the very top)
The top and bottom are both ideological fanatics.
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11f739 No.318442
>>318424
This argument ignores how successful fates has been despite the operation. As far as Nintendo is concerned, they are right to do as they please.
To counter this, we HAVE TO KEEP PUSHING. Education is the key here, as more consumers do see the changes being made, more people will actually take actions that will hopefully force Nintendo to see the errors of their localization efforts.
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11f739 No.318443
>>318424
>>318424
This argument ignores how successful fates has been despite the operation. As far as Nintendo is concerned, they are right to do as they please.
To counter this, we HAVE TO KEEP PUSHING. Education is the key here, as more consumers do see the changes being made, more people will actually take actions that will hopefully force Nintendo to see the errors of their localization efforts.
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11f739 No.318446
>>318442
>>318443
The operation was never a boycott.
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11f739 No.318482
>>318446
Never suggested it was.
However, it does need more voices, and educating more people about Nintendo's bullshit can only help in the long run, do you agree? For now that's about all we can expect out of this.
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11f739 No.318484
>>318482
Yes, I fully agree. Shill on every gaming site you know.
Use this album since it's pretty complete:
http://imgur.com/a/X2w49
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11f739 No.318556
>>318484
Well, the SJW Tomodachi Life "Boycott" wasn't tecnically a boycott since the SJWs that complained at NoA to get a feature added to the game that wasn't in the Japanese version to begin with still didn't buy the game after the changes were made, because they never had any intention of buying it anyway…
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11f739 No.318571
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11f739 No.318607
>>318166
Report his faggot ass
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11f739 No.318704
Some eNobody is spending tens of dollars to spam the tag; please report… and move on.
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11f739 No.318721
>>318704
> several eNobodies
FTFY
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11f739 No.318736
>>318197
Considering how hard the tag has been getting spammed today, I would suggest digging into the following individuals.
John Kelly
TheBaconFromHell
Variloh
Thidran
MaleGoddess
Really, anyone who has been pushing the "TorrentialDownpour is a boycott" narrative, and anyone who backed Kelly's attempts to hijack the OP with his medium piece.
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11f739 No.318737
>>318736
Super relevant:
http://archive.is/5ttYx
Fucker outed himself
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11f739 No.318750
Don't know if this has been posted yet or not. It's nice to see more people talking about this shit. https://youtu.be/OgFLTfo4YUQ?t=56m16s
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11f739 No.318903
>>318736
I checked bacon he didn't know what it was and said it was a good idea to raise awareness about it.
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11f739 No.318955
>>317220
You make so much sense yet none understand you.
Like I have been saying, we were better when the far right ruled than the far left.
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11f739 No.319009
>>318955
One of the dirty secrets of war is that when you raise a entire generation of warriors to fight for your cause… and happen to win… you raise a second force to murder the first one after victory is assured (Patton's "car accident" is the best modern, Western, example I can give you).
…because warriors, even "warriors" of the Social Justice kind, will FOREVERMORE seek a new dragon to slay; even if that new "dragon" is YOU.
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11f739 No.319106
Anybody got the picture that shows the differences between Charlotte/Kamui's S and A ranks between versions? I saw it somewhere and forget where.
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11f739 No.319108
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11f739 No.319128
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11f739 No.319168
>>319108
>>319128
What the actual fuck?
This can't even be called "Localization" anymore; it's not so much that changes were made, so much as, every change made the work objectively worse and worser (worstest).
At this point the NoA version is more a like a bad parody dub than a translation:
Fire Emblem Fates: the Abridged Series
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11f739 No.319178
>>319168
Don't talk as if those are all the changes either. :^)
More will be added soon.
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11f739 No.319201
>>318736
Report their accounts for spam too
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11f739 No.319241
>>319178
Well considering how much shit was taken out, it still technically, can be called "The Abridged Series"
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11f739 No.319242
>>319241
I was implying it's worse.
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11f739 No.319375
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11f739 No.319477
>>319242
I know brah; worsetsest
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11f739 No.319791
>>317282
What the fuck kinda dumbass name is "Caeldori"?
How the hell are you even supposed to pronounce that?
Arn't Hoshidofags supposed to have Japanese-sounding names? So why not just leave it as "Matoi"?
How the hell do they pick who gets their name "localized"? Is there any rhyme or reason to any of this shit?
FUCK
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11f739 No.319811
>>319791
In Caeldori's case, it's a result of being backed into a corner for localizers doing stupid shit. Asugi, Rahjat and Caeldori are all doppelgangers of Gaius, Tharja and Cordelia respectively. In order to keep the Japanese names faithful to the original's name, the names also had to be changed
So, Cordelia's Japanese Name was Tiamo while Caeldori's was Matoi. Both names are anagrams of each other, so in order for the reference to still exist, the name had to change.
Course, it could have been stopped by never changing Cordelia's name in the first place.
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11f739 No.319813
>>319811
Thanks, leader. That makes sense I guess.
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11f739 No.319836
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11f739 No.319837
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11f739 No.319861
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11f739 No.319864
>>319836
>>319837
>>319861
No, you're not the only one. Those bots have been at it for a couple of weeks and it's wildly annoying.
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11f739 No.319892
How much are you guys targeting fandom fags? They really care about characterization as seen in the comments of https://amielleon.dreamwidth.org/201041.html, which memehouse fucked up badly so it'd be a good idea to rally them up. Including the ones on tumblr
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11f739 No.319910
What are the chances of the EU release getting this awful localization?
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11f739 No.319936
>>318085
>a swarm of bats flying into her cavernous vagina
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11f739 No.320025
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11f739 No.320028
>>318085
She's a 6/10 at best, and those shitty tats….
>>318102
Please do you honestly believe there weren't any gold digging whores back then?
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11f739 No.320110
Taken from the /v/ Nintendo NX controller thread
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11f739 No.320118
>>320110
Sounds like bullshit, but then again so did that leak about the SVU episode. We will have to wait.
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11f739 No.320159
>>320110
It would be nice if Nintendo got rid of the SJW stooges who ruined the new Fire Emblem.
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11f739 No.320209
>>320110
Since it seems the controller was fake, it seems safe to say that this post is bullshit.
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11f739 No.320226
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11f739 No.321202
Any of you chumps got the picture of the "into the trash it goes" reference in the game? Fuckin forget where I saw it.
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11f739 No.326641
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