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 No.57293>>57300 >>57301 >>57316 >>57338 >>57351 >>57419 >>57451 >>57532 >>57550 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

So, despite the fact that there are millions of species out there to choose from, you choose a fox, a dog, or wolf as a fursona. Why?

 No.57294>>57296 >>57307 >>57314 >>57327 >>57419

Foxes are iconic and representative of the cartoon side of the fandom, from Robin Hood to Nick Wilde. Canines and humans have a natural affinity to each other. Humans are social animals, and so both want to pick a social animal like a canine, and be social with everyone else who is also a canine. Furries want to be unique, but also the same as everyone else, just like being a human same as everyone else; being a fox with some random off-color part of the body like a toe or a patch of fur or a tattoo accomplishes that. Choosing an overrepresented species gives protection by ubiquity, because you can't ascribe stereotypes to the majority group.

Picking a species that is very rare or a hybrid that is very rare is like saying to the whole fandom, "Look, I'm not like any of your fuckers!" It's the furry equivalent of someone dressing in all black leather, or having a face full of piercings, or dyeing their hair in neon colors and spiking it a foot tall.

It misses the point of the fandom, which is about socializing and inclusion. It's like a business mixer where everyone's going to wearing name-tags, so it doesn't matter if everyone looks alike. Look how racist humans are toward members of their own species that are merely SLIGHTLY differently-colored. You walk into a room full of foxes dressed as a goddamn praying mantis, and nobody is going to want to fucking make friends with you.


 No.57296

>>57294

Tbh I don't mind people choosing a fursona that's the same as others, I just don't like the ones with pukey neon colors like the OP pic. It feels really tryhard to me. I mean, at least with some people, they choose a certain canine because they just simply like the animal, and that's fine.


 No.57300

>>57293 (OP)

I just didn't want to be that much of a special snowflake, anon. Otherwise I'd be an isopod girl.


 No.57301>>57302 >>57316

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>>57293 (OP)

These are what I consider entry-level species; a lot of furfags get into the fagdom when they're young, they start at places like DA, so they are drawn to the popular and appealing aspect of canines, and they remain that way for some time. And because of the hugboxy nature of webshites like DA, they don't begin to suspect that they're walking vomit. Eventually some do break off from this mentality and 'grow up' (change their fursona into something better) but the majority just become manchildren.


 No.57302>>57306 >>57311

>>57301

Growing up means not being embarrassed by doing "childish" things like watching Disney movies or whatever, because you're an adult and can do whatever the fuck you want. What you're talking about is nothing more than inane teenage high-school drama. You have no idea what it really means to be an adult, so you just think it's the opposite of being a child.


 No.57306>>57308 >>57312

>>57302

If you immediately took offense from his perspective, then you haven't matured yet. Part of being mature is letting arbitrary things slide.


 No.57307

>>57294

>Picking a species that is very rare or a hybrid that is very rare is like saying to the whole fandom, "Look, I'm not like any of your fuckers!" It's the furry equivalent of someone dressing in all black leather, or having a face full of piercings, or dyeing their hair in neon colors and spiking it a foot tall.

It's the other way around if it's a gay sparkledog wolf with neon semen.


 No.57308

>>57306

Counter-point: That doesn't apply on an imageboard where the entire point is to discuss and debate. Why are you assuming he took offense because he replied?


 No.57309>>57370 >>57520

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I picked a Red Panda because I like how they look.


 No.57311>>57312

>>57302

>being grown up is being unashamed of being a failure

ok.


 No.57312>>57317 >>57322

>>57306

That would make him a hypocrite, but not wrong.

>>57311

>unashamed of being a failure

Says the guy on an imageboard.


 No.57314

>>57294

If you think people are more annoyed at someone with an Owl fursona as opposed to a radioactive neon purple wolf with bass speakers shoved into it's tail then I think you haven't looked around enough. Also I don't think we need to open the can of worms of bringing up human ethnicity into a trivial topic such as this, since the political boards do enough back and forth arguing for all of us here.


 No.57316

>>57293 (OP)

They're already common sights.

People get inspiration from what they see, so of course they're most likely going to get an idea of how they want to customize a character someone else has drawn of their own fox/dog/wolf before they come up with something on their own.

>>57301 kinda has it right in that aspect since "entry-level" somewhat describes what I mean.

Most people will eventually improve on that original idea as it has time to evolve into something actually original if it didn't start out that way.

Assuming they actually care about the character that is.

If the character is just a fetish vehicle, the species isn't always a relevant factor so the character will stay a fox/dog/wolf forever, or until the owner gains a fetish that requires it to be changed.


 No.57317>>57331

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>>57312

>Says the guy on an imageboard

Excuse you, the entire site is not /r9k/. Some of us lead actual lives and go here for fun, not because we're confined to NEETdom until the end of time. Stop projecting.


 No.57319

I don't have a fursona. But if I did, it'd probably be something lame like a turtle.


 No.57322>>57330 >>57331

>>57312

He is incorrect though, a lot of Disney films are considered childish because they're very idealistic. The fact that people call it mature for briefly talking about loss or death is pretty embarrassing. Go watch Fargo (1995) if you want a mature film with a good theme.


 No.57327>>57336

>>57294

Ever since Tumblr got into the fandom, Foxes aren't too popular anymore. Most of the fandom is now into dogs and dutch angel "dragons"


 No.57330>>57364

>>57322

>a lot of Disney films are considered childish because they're very idealistic

By that logic, would Lord of the Rings or other fantasy/sci-fi films be considered childish?


 No.57331>>57337 >>57342 >>57364

>>57317

Nobody comes here for fun. This place is not fucking fun! It's goddamn internet purgatory. People come here because imageboards are all they know. It's because they are afraid of the loss of anonymity and requirement to restrain themselves and their "personality" (ie: not be an asshole all the time) that a more structured place like an artist's site or discussion forum would force onto them. It's because they're not an artist or a commissioner, because they don't own a fursuit and probably don't even have a fursona, because they don't attend cons or interact with the "community" so don't feel as if they would fit in anywhere else.

Don't think I don't know who you are, boy.

>>57322

>a lot of Disney films are considered childish because they're very idealistic

No. They are considered childish because they are animated. For example, ask most people, and they will completely refuse to believe it's even possible for an anime to be "for adults". The very concept is outside their realm of comprehension. If it's not live-action, it's for little kids.


 No.57336

>>57327

I could probably put up with half the shitsonas Dumblr churns out if it weren't for the godawful art style.


 No.57337

>>57331

>not be an asshole all the time

I come here as opposed to Reddit or other forums because I genuinely appreciate the form of discussion. People are more likely to spout whatever bullshit and speak from raw input and emotion rather than crafting out extravagant false pretenses or provide little value to work with. There's no ratings to posts either, the most recent post is always put front and center rather than having "le top comment" or what the mob deems valuable.


 No.57338>>57340 >>57368

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>>57293 (OP)

Because apparently they all look the same.


 No.57340>>57343 >>57347 >>57368

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>>57338

There should at least be some fucking size variability.


 No.57342

>>57331

I'm not the guy you're talking to but this describes me exactly. gg


 No.57343

>>57340

TFW no tiny bat bf


 No.57347>>57358

>>57340

Size difference is my favorite little detail, but sadly, few run it.

Even among something clearly stated to be small, like kobolds, I keep seeing regular sized lots.

Though, in that case, to be fair, that's more people labeling their little OCs 'kobolds', than actually designing a kobold.


 No.57351

>>57293 (OP)

I don't mind people who pick a fox or a dog or anything generic.

The people I mind are those who leave it as only a fox or a dog.

They don't bother trying to find some originality, by at least getting some fancy species or type. They just say "fox", and are done. Or worse "dog", without anything


 No.57358>>57359

>>57347

I hate how size difference usually comes with a shit ton of vore.


 No.57359

>>57358

Agreed. Same deal with the whole macro/micro jazz.


 No.57364

>>57330

Star Wars? Yes. LOTR? I haven't watched it yet so I can't say for sure.

>>57331

>No. They are considered childish because they are animated. For example, ask most people, and they will completely refuse to believe it's even possible for an anime to be "for adults". The very concept is outside their realm of comprehension. If it's not live-action, it's for little kids.

That's the thing, a lot of animated stuff is too childish. Even the majority of modern "mature" anime. I only watch it if the drawings or animations are extremely good from a technical perspective, but you'll immediately notice that the writing is not good the moment you watch live action classics.


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>>57338

>>57340

Not to mention, shape variability where anthros look like their respective animals, just upright. I've never been a fan of that style, they just look like humans.


 No.57369>>57371

>>57368

This is why for a long while, I didn't even call myself a 'furry'. Majority of art is basically humans, and that doesn't appeal to me. I'm in it for the xenophilia. I want a new creature, a species of its own to lust after.

Honestly, there's not much I hate more than human clothes just slapped on to an anthro. Just lazy, it is.


 No.57370>>57373

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>>57309

Whoa, wasn't expecting someone else to say this, but same

Red pandas are cute


 No.57371>>57372

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>>57369

For a majority of canines or cats, I feel they'd already look pretty similar to a human when standing upright. That's probably another reason they're popular aside from being basic animals.


 No.57372

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>>57371

Maybe if you've never picked up a dog or cat before, you'd think that, sure.

Cats tend to have a longer torso, for instance, and dogs come in a massive variety of shapes and sizes.


 No.57373>>57374 >>57376

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>>57370

I was honestly expecting to get shit for saying that. I'm told a fursona's supposed to be an animal that matches your personality the best. I appreciate the comment, fellow panda.


 No.57374>>57375 >>57376

>>57373

I don't think there's really that much in the way of rules around fursonas. They're kind of just shitty avatars, after all.

Just don't make them too generic or too sparkledoggy.

I think red pandas are trash, if it helps.


 No.57375

>>57374

I don't think generic is a problem, at least not on the same scale as sparkledog mary sue types. It's when their personality is generic that it's a problem and often choosing a Fox or Wolf is a good indicator of it, but there are people with decent reasoning to make sense being a Fox or Wolf.

To each their own I guess, but I've been thinking about choosing a new fursona


 No.57376

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>>57373

Man, anyone who cares more about what your fursona should be than you yourself is an autist

Obviously you should keep it non-obnoxious with the design so people you commission don't hate you but for the most part have fun and choose whatever you want to have as your fursona

>>57374

>I think red pandas are trash, if it helps.

>if it helps

it would help if you stopped posting anon


 No.57383>>57387 >>57394 >>57418 >>57427

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Unfortunately a lot of people don't tend to like species that deviate from cats or canines too much. Not many people want to fuck birds for instance.


 No.57387>>57394

>>57383

I'm not a big fan of the cloaca meme that seems to follow avians.

Plus I feel like cuddling with a bird would lead to him getting his feathers bent or something and that would be just painful for him and awkward for me.


 No.57391

German Shepherd fag here

Part of the reason I chose Alsatian is because they're known for being hard working and atheletic dogs, Both are things I aspired towards when I was young, And both are things that became difficult to do after being diagnosed with asthma. So it's nice to think of my ideal self being an animal associated with those qualities that I failed to achieve in adulthood.

The other, More important reason, Is that I just like German Shepherds and find them aesthetically pleasing.


 No.57394

>>57383

I love me some birds. Sadly, they're rather rare.

>>57387

Personally, I prefer animal genetalia, overall. Bird penises are fine, so long as you stuff them in a slot as it were.

But, then, I'm one of them weirdos what want their anthros more their own creature, than just humans with feathers.


 No.57416

why does everybody hate designs with full-arm wings like noviern?


 No.57418

>>57383

This is shit. Why can't furries get avian anatomy right? They always give them fat dog-like faces with ears and paws.


 No.57419

>>57294

This is actually a well written response and is pretty much on point for the most of it

>>57293 (OP)

Personally, I think cats and dogs are easy for people to relate to. Almost everyone has a childhood or family pet while growing up, and that species/breed can be nostalgic or is just something they view as safe and cosy.

I grew up with cats, they meant a lot to me and considered having a cat sona at one point. I couldn't relate to them though, my personality was completely different from my childhood cat and couldn't see it representing me. Ended up going with wolf as "babbies first fursona" because I really liked werewolves as a kid, that I thought you had to choose canine at first lmao


 No.57425>>57507

would probably pick a sheepdog now but they seem to operate in an area of being not quite cliche, but actually being about as interchangeable as foxes.


 No.57427>>57436

>>57383

>human dick and external balls

damn, that nigger has a really convincing fursuit on


 No.57436>>57444

>>57427

While I'm absolutely pro dicks on avians, the balls are just stupid.


 No.57444>>57447

>>57436

I'm pro-dicks on everything, but it should at least be in a slit or cloaca if it's a bird.


 No.57447

>>57444

Thats basically what I said but ok.


 No.57451>>57498

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>>57293 (OP)

They're aesthetically pleasing and popular. It used to piss me off when I was younger, but I've grown to appreciate artist who take something like a dog and make it unique. The people who have a generic ass fox, wolf, or husky can go to hell though. Seeing fursonas with a neutral fur palette and neon ears, nose, paws makes me wanna yak.

I really love cats and dogs, but they just don't fit me. I've tried to design one as my fursona several times, but I can never relate to them. I'm not one of those fags who thinks your sona has to be your spirit animal or some shit, but I do like to see a part of myself in the design. I chose a deer because they they're not in basic territory, but it's no too out there either.


 No.57498

>>57451

Deer are cuties


 No.57507

>>57425

Personally I think dog characters can avoid the whole "everyone is a dog/fox/wolf" thing if they pick an actual uncommon breed.

You just have to make sure to find artists that aren't going to be lazy and just slap a different fur pattern on instead of actually drawing the breed's unique physical characteristics.


 No.57520>>57522 >>57523

>>57309

Red Pandas are genticly considered to be foxes.


 No.57522

>>57520

Is that why they're so cute


 No.57523

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>>57520

They're not even fucking close. More closely related to raccoons and weasels.


 No.57532>>57539

>>57293 (OP)

>you choose a fox, a dog, or wolf

>you

(you)


 No.57539

>>57532

have a (you) anon


 No.57550>>57552 >>57553

>>57293 (OP)

My sona is a saurian demon biosuit, where does that put me on the sona autism spectrum


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 No.57553

>>57550

The spectrum doesn't go that high. We had to tape a second piece of paper next to the end of the scale it in order to find a place for that to fit.




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