/fur/ - Furry★

human rabbit girl*

even

Well I mean I paid like 7000 for a fursuit so who am i to judge

actually no, what the fuck is wrong with these people throwing thousands of dollars at a shitty animation between some no name furfag 'artists'

>>43521

fuzamorous is the best fbf animation on FA imo, and if it's going to be smooth animated and colored, it would worth it.

Also what the fuck is worng with people caring about how some furs expend their money, get a fucking life and a girlfriend to expend your time, you bunch of pathetic cunts.

>>43555

yeah bro i agree with you, fuck these judgemental losers, everyone should just be able to do whatever they want and no one can question it, fuck police, fuck video survelliance, fuck drug laws, fuck public nudity laws, and most importantly, fuck the haters.

a girlfriend solves every problem in the world too

>Best

>Straight

What about Hammytoy? I'm certain Narse has full animations and is hiding them, the asshole

>>43517 (OP) (OP)

>mfw

>>43526

Veradaux's bid is gone now too.

I wonder what the hell happened? Considering it's the fifth post, and five posts were deleted... either Fuzz is deleted bids on their own for some reason, or they PMed him to pull their bid?

And finally, friendly reminder that fuzz's normal commission price for non-colored animations is like $400

Goddamn it I actully like these two.

Is no one safe from greed?

>Slots are limited to Cis-Male or Cis-Female. This reflects the sexual preference of Fuzzamorous, and is not a commentary or judgement on other people's beliefs or lifestyles.

>artist I like is doing a mass YCH auction, raking in thousands

>it's actually a quality image

I'm ok with it. He never spams streams and auctions.

Hi this is an actual animator :^)

It is up to par. He's undercharging. Now, I really hope that he gets more than half of the money, because tbh, meesh isn't doing jack shit for this animation, he took the easy parts.

The inbetweening and colours/shading is going to be a bitch to do. keyframes are easy, its the inbetweening thats kills your hand

fuzzamorous is the best fbf animator on the site, as far as porn goes. For regular animation, well, ehhhhhhh, he's got a lot of work to do. because repetitive animation is pretty easy to animate, porn is easy. just tedious.

He's underselling. It'd be about $100 per second if it'd sell at $3000, assuming the animation ends up 30 seconds long sans repeating. This is WITH SHADING/colours. That's cheap af, and way below his average prices [which I don't agree with; $400 for an unshaded sketch animation? no thanks] but at this current price, it's a steal .I just hope he gets his money's worth in the deal because he's been screwed over before from other collaboration animations and meesh doesn't deserve a 50%+ cut on this deal.

Why are people with shit characters rich?

>>43602

I hope that you aren't offended by it, it's just not his thing. You wouldn't want to work over >20hr on a thing that you aren't turned on by.

>>43662

I have a question for you, do you know a good guide, tutorial, or book to creating animated film shorts? I have a tough time becoming motivated for it.

>>43666

He's going to have a few basic keys, but it's probably going to be inbetweened or timed differently.

>>43666

I'm basing the timing on how many cuts and shots there are, as well as any alternative animation added into a loop to make it look different. One thrust of animation is around a second long, but when you add in multiple inbetweens, it can be up to two seconds long. There's plenty of animation here that can easily equal 30 seconds.

I'm not counting any loops as added time; I'm talking about the first loop as in the initial animation.

having worked with fuzz, i trust that he doesn't hype up his animation to more than it actually is. HE is not the one that hypes up his animations, it is other people that do this.

he is an animator, and you confuse me by saying he's not. jigglebones is not an animator while claiming he is, that is who you should focus your spite on. not someone who can actually animate.

and while i appreciate people saying im a good animator, im not the kind of person who does porn anymore. im not good at it, im just good at making it look pretty. fuzz does way more, he adds weight to it, makes it look more interesting to look at, i can't do that because its so goddamn boring for me i can't put in the effort. people hype up my animation just as much as they hype up his... but he actually tries with his furry stuff, i do not, thereefor i do not deserve the praise >43603 gives

>>43668

there're plenty of animation tutorials, but the best teacher is you trying to animate something yourself. richard william's Animator Survival Kit is apparently an essential for beginning animators [though it wasn't helpful for me... already knew it all]

you could study movies and guides on storyboarding/composition/directing for the film short part; I just gained experience as i drew but no doubt google will help for that guide wise

>>43663

They're not rich, they're just autistic.

Autistic characters have autistic owners, therefore they are very bad at managing money and instead of spending it wisely or paying their fucking rent, they'd rather flood galleries with their shit OC.

>>43671

some limited-inbetween animation in style of robot did for fun

https://youtu.be/2_QptTHCwl0?t=57s

cannot show professional work, do not wish alias to be tied w/real name sorry

Fuzz is a good boy.

>>43662

>actual animator

Sup trunchbull

>>43715

I don't think even trunchbull considers himself a real animator.

>>43715

caw

>>43728

i've been animating professionally for over a decade! :^) only recenttly started dickin around w/av furry animation for past 3 yrs

>>43729

The only thing worse than a trunchbull is some faggot pretending to be trunchbull.

Either way, eat a turd.

>>43733

agree with you. i virtue signal a lot about sfw too.

but you're right, i don't care about sfw much either because it's all shit, all the webcomics are shit and the books and games are for kids.

i used to like callmedoc, but he became an SJW retard. and i commissioned him once and he scammed me, gave me a piece of shit from his backlog nothing like what i asked for and i asked for a refund and stopped caring about him.

in other words i'd like to like SFW but i can't till someone produces something worth liking.

i guess that'll have to be me, i'm writing a SFW book series of exactly what i want out of furry since no one else will.

>>43737

it probably is trunchbull, she's posted here many times before, and people doubted it was her but she actually drew a request for me.

>>43739

Oh shit, trunchbull is female? Hahah.

>>43740

Don't let it keep you up at night or anything.

>>43742

i wouldn't know for certainty but she claims to be. can't really know till you get a legal name or a picture

>>43742

She/he deleted their post?

>>43743

i'm about to start crampin so im pretty sure im a lady :^)

>>43745

i formatted my hard drive and got banned from FA and lost the request that you did for me, could you repost it if you got it? it's the grey lion with a purple and gold jumpsuit and a battery pack on his back.

>>43747

Do you know what year i drew it, because i'm lookin through and can't find it ):

>>43748

2015 i think. it was a bust with a black background

>>43748

if you look through your FA PM's, I was FFFIRESTTARTTERRR

>>43751

nice yeah that's the one, badass. it really is you.

i guess you didn't make it purple for stylistic differences

>>43676

Still waiting to see those animations

>>43753

how did you fail to check the grand total of two replies to your shitpost?

>>43745

Probably a female seeing as you delete posts like a bitch.

>>43764

I don't get it either as she's nice as well.

>>43764

might be the commie shill running amuck, he's active on the board as we speak

>>43730

This is great.

>>43766

>>43767

>>43764

Keep sucking her dick you worthless cucks.

>>43796

>Not using a dedicated auctioning site

But then, here we are

>>43796

Who fucking cares you talentless piece of shit, go back to riding Meesh's dick so your art has any relevancy.

>>43820

man meesh isnt even a good artist like what the fuck he doesnt deserve to be so popular

>>43820

>Trying this hard to bait people.

>>43820

>fuzz

>not relevant

what rock have you been living under

>>43831

>People getting baited by this guy

Why are furries so fucking stupid

>>43847

I got suspended for fritz dumbass racist comments because we both have the same ip address. its bullshit bc his type of homophobic comments is exactly what a friend to death and is the antithesis of what i stand for

they were specifically looking at HIS account because they were trying to pin a reason to suspend me again, and mark my account with a second violation after I accidentally block evaded when i was posting art on an alt account

They didn't IP range ban the entire accounts, because i have at least 4 other accounts w/the same ip address, not counting trunch, trunchbull or hardscrabble, and yet they banned none of them despite them all being active

and i'm assuming they targeted me because fritz's bullshit hate speech fits their agenda to target me

it's defamation of character, this homophobic shit is why my friend killed himself and they have the audactiy to pin the blame on ME and i got in trouble for it

kayla_na triggered this 'investigation' because she got mad with this convo https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJOjsvqXkAE2UGb.jpg:large

appears she couldnt get away with the submission any longer so she deleted it. it was a shitty quality jpg as censorship, which i was okay with, but not with her deleting her previous upload of it to censor people's complaints.

>>43730

I love this. Is it self-contained or is there more?

>>43820

Okay Jasonafex.

>>43888

>Trips

>That salt

Fucking wrekt

What was the context?

>>43888

Does trunchbull have anything to do with jasonafex? I'm a bit behind on my furries of drama.

>>43908

She fucking ass annihilated him when he was being a moron

>>43909

Shit, then I apologize to trunchbull for thinking she was jasonafex. I'm really behind on my popufurs.

>>43831

came here to gawk at you for lulz after the politician thing

saw your comment about FA

>just the same faggy CoC update to decry the ebil nazis every website on earth is doing

>most of the comments are just talking shit about antifa

god damn animal people never change

>>43933

i like sponty or whatever its called. hot tiddy human/rabbit with a dick, whats not to like?

>>43556

How the fuck do you compare police and public services to someone spending their money on furry porn

>>43935

You see that character fucking everywhere and it just gets annoying

>>43935

>human

There's your answer.

It has no fucking place on FA/e621/etc, and the fact that just filtering human doesn't filter it just makes it even worse, because clearly humans with cat ears are not humans.

I'm really hoping someone even more autistic with a character that's actually furry comes along, I don't want fuzz's great skills to be wasted on that failed lab experiment.

>>43747

>got banned from FA

What?You called out dragoneer on his failed moderation methods again?

>>43767

You mean "Fanta"?That fat fetishist that worship bernie sanders?

>>43949

That's not truthbull that you're responding to, it's salos. The telemonster user.

>>43950

Bara was a mistake.

>>44007

She posted the reason in her account

>>43603

>trunchbull

>good animator

My sides, trunchbull is a shit animator who hides all the shitty frames under filter effects. And the only reason people jerk her off is because she animated shit for a couple of thirsty people and "fought against poppers"

then left after getting her e-fame.

>>44043

Yeah she's so shit she lands professional animation jobs constantly. I mean, how shittier can you get?

>>43796

Teach me how to animate senpai

I find it really difficult to like get worked up over how much people spend on commissions. I mean if someone is spending a lot of money on commissioned art and like they have a child or something who's suffering because of a parent's financial negligence, yeah I'd get upset then. But when it's just some person spending their excess income on something they enjoy then I don't really care.

Instead of critiquing how people wantonly spend their money on what seems like shoddy commissions I'd just suggest making your own animations. If it's so easy, then it's basically a real easy to make a several thousand bucks. If you don't do that, then maybe it's priced appropriately?

>>44069

Would you pay $20 for a 5 cent candy because of who is selling it?

Do you think $120 Beats By Dre are worth it even though they cost about $24 in parts and have an iron piece inside them to give them weight?

yeah! I mean gosh guys, animation shouldn't cost more than a block of printer paper, amirite?

>>44069

A lot of furries spend money in comissions that are not worth the price(ex:tweening), is just like buying a piece of glass that looks like a diamond for the price of a diamond.

Also what bring costumers in this fandom is popularity not art quality.

>>44072

>Also what bring costumers in this fandom is popularity not art quality.

If popularity is completely arbitrary and prices are set on this metric rather than the skill or experience they posses I would imagine this would be a good thing for customers as discerning as you. You can get cheaper commissions from artists with a greater skill at the craft, so there's no reason for you as a consumer to complain.

If you can't find better artists with cheaper commissions maybe that's because artists get popular because of other reasons. Maybe they are more prolific, maybe there isn't as many people willing to work on what people want to commission, maybe they will work faster than others, etc.

Regardless of whichever is the reason, there's no reason to become riled at how people spend their money. They pay for it by having to sacrifice other pleasures they could of otherwise enjoyed with their excess income. Obviously you don't think the sacrifice of other pleasures is worth the value of whatever some artist charges for a commission, so just enjoy those other pleasures.

>>44075

>If popularity is completely arbitrary and prices are set on this metric rather than the skill or experience they posses I would imagine this would be a good thing for customers as discerning as you. You can get cheaper commissions from artists with a greater skill at the craft, so there's no reason for you as a consumer to complain.

I said that popularity bring costumers, that mean "popufurs" can charge even more than they should that people will still buy it, this does does not necessarily mean that underrated artists will make anything cheaper than they should just that artists with 30000 followers can increase their prices a lot.

Regardless of whichever is the reason, there's no reason to become riled at how people spend their money.

Is funny to see people wasting their money, no one is stopping them or pressuring them, is the same thing as seening people paying thousands of dollars for completelly random circles in a picture, is interesting and hilarious

http://cavemancircus.com/2015/07/30/15-ridiculous-pieces-of-art-that-sold-for-millions-of-dollars/

You in the other hand...what is your reason to be bothered by anonymous people thoughts about random subjects?You sure love to comment on those threads

>>44082

>You in the other hand...what is your reason to be bothered by anonymous people thoughts about random subjects?You sure love to comment on those threads

I'm not really bothered by anonymous posts on random subjects, I'm bothered by a specific view on this specific subject. I thought my reason was made plain and obvious but I will elaborate because it seems to have eluded you. I think the enormity of someone paying for a service comes from the contrast of different perceptions of value. I wish to point out that the value of a service is utterly subjective and has no negative externalizes on the community as a whole: i.e. that the price of one artist does not discourage other artists from producing material. On the contrary it promotes more artists to enter into the community and make their skills available. The scoffers of the stingy also has an element of the hypocritical because I imagine the same who might criticize the spending of money on art commissions will then consume it later on at their disposal. The critiques of artists and consumers is at the same time both childish and unfounded.

I hope now you understand now my reason to be bothered.

>>44099

I already did but i'll say it here again, since i'm assuming it's going to be a 50/50 split. :^)

You'll get 2000 for most of the workload, which is not enough for the amount of work you'll be doing. Meesh will get 2000 for doing some keyframes woooooo.

You're going to be working below minimum wage at that rate for the amount of work you're going to be putting in. But I guess workin with popular people requires to sacrifice ey? p:

I would not feel very proud right now. Rangling in a wolfy-nail collaboration and him only doing the keyframes while I do most of the labour WHILE getting half of the money isn't going to be as satisfying as seeing him doing some actual labour.

you gotta have some pride for your work when you're collaborating, otherwise you let yourself devalue your work in their eyes.

>>44103

>Meesh will get 2000 for doing some keyframes woooooo.

Wait, is that seriously the full extent of his contribution to the collaboration?

He's not doing anything else?

>>44104

yup, all he's doing is keyframes, final keys, inbetween revisions, and palette. which, in the long run, is jack shit compared to the huge workload that fuzz has set himself up for.

that is, assuming that it's 50/50 payment.

still, you shouldn't sacrifice that much just to work with someone. it boosts their ego. They should get payment for the value of their work, not the value of their popularity. 50/50 seems fair but one party is getting seriously FUCKED, but as long as they're willing, right? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>44106

also why the fuck is meesh doing inbetween revisions when he has absolutely no experience in animation? what the absolute fuck, fuzz? what were you thinking? oTL

like, fuzz, you literally could've collaborated with me and I would've given you a fair run for your money and actually split up the workload for an even amount of money that made sense. I don't understand why you would screw yourself over so badly just to work with someone you like. it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

i don't mean to question your business practices but the more i mull over, the more ridiculous it seems.

>>44109

>>>44109

If you'd work in a professional animation environment, you'd know that inbetweens as a whole take longer than the two main keyframes to draw and render. We've had this discussion before. Keys are important but you can't make it smooth without the damn inbetweens.

>>44109

not trunchbull here, i just type similarly. in the "i don't give a shit" fashion of typing.

you should research Harlan Ellison. he's a jack of all trades in hollywood. film director, producer, screenwriter, and a book publisher.

but the main thing of relevance here to you is he would have liked to murder you. because your willingness to get fucked for shit pay doesn't just hurt you, it hurts every other other animator too.

once the industry got so fucked by people like you, people got the wrong idea about content creators and started calling up Harlan Ellison who's a AAA veteran worth millions and ask him to start doing work for free/for practically nothing. "huh? you won't work for jack shit? what!!! but i have 30 guys outside my office such as fuzzamorous that will do the job for nothing!". ruined his entire career.

warner brothers themselves expected him to do work for nothing. it's not a small scale amateur level issue, it goes to the top. billion dollar corporations expecting to not have to pay anyone cause lackeys like you fuck up the entire perception of business.

and also, you're really trying to make it bigger than it seems. it's porn. you're trying to make it like it's some elegant process of figuring out "Oh, how do i best position this uwu" when there's pretty much only a few options. meesh has done porn so often that it's not even a trip to think of how to keyframe it. it's not some divine "HOW SHOULD I DO THIS COMPOSITION" its "how best to turn people on to fap to this"

porn really isn't hard to animate, doesn't require finesse, that's why we have so much hentai.

and that's why it's not really taken seriously as an 'animator job' to many people in the industry. porn is so damn easy to do because there are plenty of pervs to feed you.

Now, try doing what i do for a living. you'll find it's more of a challenge, draining, but more experience-granting than doing the same loops all day of two animals fucking together. that's why i never put effort into those pornos. because anyone will eat it up regardless of whether effort was applied or not.

i don't want to break a friendship but i dislike someone hyping the animation flow up to more than what it really is.

why do i even bother though. if your willing to let people take advantage of you by agreeing to rather unfair terms, who am i to say its wrong. every time i care, people just do the opposite and reap the consequences.

is it really worth caring for fellow animator or friend. when people make bad decisions. is it really worth bothering with. furries have shown to be bad and yet giving them a chance it just always ends up with the same thing and i keep doin this shit to myself by trying to care and it ends up like this.

what's the point anymore

im just going to go. theres no point to care when there's no happy resolution. I do hope it works out for you i nthe end, but i've seen furries, how they work, for decades. i just wish you'd

there's no point

>>44131

its my fault it got this bad becuase i cant shut the fuck up

im sorry i made your thread too serious when you were just trying to have a laugh

>>44132

It's chill. It kind of quickly devolved into people shitting on Fuzz anyways, which is really not what I wanted.

Though I shouldn't have expected anything less in this environment, but it was pretty irresponsible of me.

This wasn't quite the lighthearted bantz I was hoping for.

>>44134

Sort of? Link to your gallery?

>>44135

I just say "sort of" because I very irregularly post. Usually many months between submissions of drawings. As for posting my gallery I feel like I'd be kind of shooting myself in the foot doing that here.

>>44136

Aw, that's too bad, I was curious about your art. Could you post one or two drawings here then at least?

>>44131

Fuzz actually needed having a pro animator put him in his place a bit. Don't be so fucking sensitive.

>>44138

not the person asking you for art but that's magnificent, the weight between each figure, and how gooey it looks, that's pretty nice work. also sold on that lineweight.

>>44140

Thanks a ton, I appreciate it. Hopefully I'll get around to finishing it. There's also some things I'd like to fix up, now that I'm looking at it again after a few months. Mainly some perspective issues, but I'll cross that bridge when it comes.

>>44141

You looking forward to animating big-titted rabbit girl?

did i missclick and accidentally joined some circlejerk avatarfag artist discord with some petty drama that just happens to look like /fur/

>>44141

>With the track record of the furry fandom, im not surprised at the kneejerk reaction about big money, collabs, and animation projects.

It kind of sucks that there are people who aren't realistic about it. They expect same level of quality from Disney film projects that had a duration of 5~ years in development to be applied in five minutes for free as a hobby. It's insane. They do point out award-winning shorts that are posted free online, but they don't realize that those shorts are sponsored and paid for as a regular movie in film festivals. They spend at least five figures when it comes to their budget.

I guess that the digital age made it too accessible and convenient for viewers. In the past, you had either had to watch it on low quality VHS or wait/plan to see it projected on a beautiful projected 35mm screen. Even if a movie was bad, viewers still appreciated the effort put into it and the ticket that they waited to paid for. It's kind of why there's a lot of 80s cult classics.

That said, I hope that you reach your vision. You're a great creator.

>>44145

Nah, it's all about the prices that one should pay for an animation.

>>44148

Animation tools make it easier than ever to draw these days. Kill yourself you fart sniffer.

Digital drawing is the same

>>44153

>animation tools

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlkhZMl6S40

>>44153

Cheap animation shortcuts will look like always cheap animation shortcuts, never the meticulous level of Disney animation. Case in point: >>44154

You're really dumb if you think that digital makes everything easier and cheaper. It doesn't. There's a good reason why film makers use 35mm/10mm cameras as opposed to a 100 dollar digital camera. Not only are the old cameras easier to use, they also display more color and have higher resolutions than digital ones. Let's not forget the fact that digital programs, especially animation ones crash easily.

>>44159

They use it because its the (((industry standard))) and their friends won't get a cut otherwise

>>44159

Resolution is mostly limited by optics nowadays. And digital cameras record more versatile data type than analogs, that's why they're used.

Same with digital photography.

>>44160

It's used because they're objectively better than digital. You can scale the resolution of them any time without having an issue. Do you think it's any coincidence that there's plenty of crispy blurays of old films?

>>44162

Did you misunderstand everyone's point or something? Because we're stating that media is both time-consuming and expensive to make. Fuzz's point was that he isn't making a lot of money off of it despite the high price tag, and it's true. He's actually undercharging himself.

I'll place it in simple words; people who complain about high costs for niche entertainment are stupid people. Nothing is ever produced for free and everything has a cost to it. What's hard to understand about that?

>>44164

>people who complain about high costs for niche entertainment are stupid people.

And I'm arguing that given some blatantly absurd situations which look more like a bad joke rather than reality, it's understandable if some have a kneejerk reaction to the possibility of a similar one brewing up.

>>44141

Where are the animation tutorials you little shit

>>44165

Life is not a post-scarcity Star Trek utopia, it's one that requires a lot of money.

Those knee-jerkers aren't justified to act the way they act because they're being unrealistic. Not only are they going to view it for free at the end, people are never bad for making money because it's the only means of opening possibilities.

>>44164

>(((coincidence)))

Why yes schlomo, please sell me your magic consumer bluray discs. We goy don't deserve your superior archival quality formats. That would lead to piracy and lost shekels. Oh vey its anudda shoah!

>>44167

Okay then, I wonder why you haven't started a business selling glass nuggets at the price of diamonds. I'm sure a lot of people will be fooled.

Or why you aren't selling MS paint doodles to furries for $50.

Or any other snake-oil business of the like.

According to you, people are never bad for making money. You should have no restraints.

>>44168

Come on man, don't act like this. Film reels are more expensive to reproduce than mediums like bluray and VHS. We're talking about ~$300 for per 10 minutes on a reel.

>>44169

Your analogy doesn't work because he's selling an animation to a willing buyer who knows all of the full details in his journal/submission.

Fuzz is no snake's oil salesman.

>>44171

Are we talking about fuzz specifically or in general?

You seem very quick to hop between the two whenever it's more convenient to you.

Because "people are never bad for making money" sounds pretty generic to me.

I take it having a shred of integrity and selling a quality product for a fair price are just secondary favors the seller might do to his buyers out of his own good will to you?

>>44173

In Fuzz's case it's more than fair.

In others, I hate it (I got scammed over cheap-looking poloshirts recently.) but I can't blame them for doing so in their setting. They act that way because it's necessary for them to. Some do it for a longer time than others because they're uncertain when money will dry up for them. They're being realistic about their situation and it's a smart way of overcoming it.

>>44145

No.

<this is what an intelligible argument about price and work involved for an artistic medium looks like to a furfag only used to drama fit for a soap opera

>>44141

>Dream goal would be having enough fanbase and trust that I can start forming small team based animated commissions. Get more animations out there quicker, better, bigger. Auctions could slowly evolve into just setups for other artists, with supervising on my part.

That would be pretty neat. Maybe you could also eventually look into a way to fund story centered animated shorts? I only really expect porn to be funded by commission, and that's pretty boring to me.

I hope both you and transformer-anon stop by again sometime

>>44171

Its true though. Unless you pay like $10 for a gold wafer cd from Rytek or something, your discs are gonna get fucked from basic use.

Put them in a paper case? Scratches. Put them in a CD jewel case? The spring tension on it will shatter the disc eventually.

The respectful avatarfag debate was super comfy, I wish you guys were more respectful

>>44205

Respect my fucking balls.

>come into thread expecting hilarious salt

>truchbull and fuzzamorous are fucking fighting

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHAT THE FUCK HAHAHAHA

>>44211

They are cool now though.

>>44211

>YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHAT THE FUCK HAHAHAHA

>>>/facebook/

>>44093

>I wish to point out that the value of a service is utterly subjective

Not really, the reason why MCU and DCEU got similar budgets is because the value of the cgi,acting,directors etc is pretty well estabilished,animation and drawing quality is not "subjective" to big business and professional artists.

>has no negative externalizes on the community as a whole

A couple of years ago animation in general was getting more scarce while tweening rising because popular animators got more and easier money with those methods, so yeah it cause an impact

>The scoffers of the stingy also has an element of the hypocritical because I imagine the same who might criticize the spending of money on art commissions will then consume it later on at their disposal.

It would only be hypocrital if those people consumed the same kind of art they bash, but again you're impliyng to know what those anons do with their money

>The critiques of artists and consumers is at the same time both childish and unfounded.

I disagree based in the reasons given in the first answer

>>44210

go back to >>>/nintendofart/ kiddo.

Is trunch still banned though? Or was she just banned a while ago and people are just commenting on her FA page now?

>>44139

>pro animator

>shitty frames caked with filter effects

kek

>>44324

Professional animation does not mean "smooth as fuck all the time" you cabbage.

>>44324

Keep sucking fuzz's rotting cock, you faggot. White knighting for him won't do shit for you.

>>44508

We must lend our meme magic to James, he has to win.

CLOSE THE DOOR ON RABBIT WHORE

GIVE THAT SLOT TO TRANNY FAGGOT? FUCK NO MAN, JAMES WILL SNAG IT

BEAT THAT GROSS ASS UGLY SLIME, JAMES CAN BID JUST ONE MORE TIME

>>44511

DOES HE HAS A PAYPAL?

WE HAVE TO MAKE HIM WIN

>>44508

>>44511

>>44512

>TehCait made a journal about Fuzz's animation

>Posted a year ago

So this isn't the first time they've participated it seems. This means they'll probably win if there was a bump in the process or they didn't like James.

Incidentally, PayPal doesn't allow adult purchases, including for drawn pornography. TehCait also posted their gmail address in a journal 5 years ago, which means they probably still use it.

>lunarsage@gmail.com

You could write to PayPal and alert them of a large, upcoming transaction which violates their TOS and get them very suspended or banned.

>>44515

Done and done. Lets hope it works.

>>44515

That's really evil. Then again, we're actually them money, so go ahead ai guess.

I don't see big deal with that to be honest, ok is a little overprived but bid comissions always end up being overpriced

Also fuzzamorous is a professional animateur with legit animations so unlike tweening is a legit piece of work that you're getting not a shameless scam.

>>44552

Not if you help James. I already reported """her""" email to Paypal with proof that """her""" transactions were sexual in nature, the more emails they get the better. Not only will she lose this auction but that disgusting fucking character will never show up again.

Normally I wouldn't care so much but you should -see- the way this bitch carries herself. She acts like she is the hottest shit ever and openly mocks people who rightfully tell her to fuck off. Literally nobody on the entire website other than her wants to see her win this auction at all.

>>44554

Also I would like to point out that every single comment on the submission that you see as hidden were people telling her to stop because nobody wanted to see her win. Every single one was people talking shit to her. Its like she is doing it just to spite people. The only way to beat her is to make sure James wins.

>>44555

Nah I want to see how far they can go with those bids, who cares if one animation will be bad.

Also you're not that Jamesfag aren't you?

Almost up to 9k holy shit

>>44557

No I am not. But I don't see anyone else bidding that high or having a chance of winning. I would back anybody if it meant seeing that shit rabbit lose and wail about how it wasn't fair in some way. Unfortunately there is only one hope for us and its name is James.

>>44512

Don't you dare interfere. This is battle of pride between two autistic men.

>>44562

Be glad this will not be wasted in tweening

I remember that at jasonafex drama there was a bid of around 4000 for a tweening animation, something that Fek did in 30 min for free even though he never did it before.

>>44568

Fuck off you piece of shit, nobody cares about your avatarfagging nonsense. Get your newfag ass back to your little hugbox and keep losing to James. Nobody wants to see your ugly as shit character on that website, this one, or any other.

I'd like proof you've "taken care of" this Paypal issue, by the way, seeing as how my correspondence with them is still active. In fact they even asked for more evidence. Either someone at Paypal HQ is having fun jerking it to your pictures or you're going down in flames, tranny freak.

>>44570

I don't see anything too wrong about her OC, James character is a super generic fox

borderline sparkledog vs clone fox number number 200.445. lose or lose

Also how the fuck is possible that everyone we comment instantly reply to us?Everyone browese /fur/ now?

>>44570

he'll probably use his mom's paypal instead lmao

you're better off reporting fuzzamorous' paypal, then the tranny would have to wire the money or something instead, that could be costly. but he seems to like throwing money away anyway, no big deal.

>>44572

foxes are inherently less generic than a human by default, you lose.

Remember to send words of encouragement to James. Nothing wrong with a normal-looking character.

>>44572

>Does everyone browse /fur/ now?

Honestly that's what has been scaring me about this whole thread. Its like saying someone's name can summon them. Are we going to start having avatarfag circlejerks between irrelevant people we make fun of now? Are we getting that popular? This fucking sucks.

>>44574

I will not. I have respect for Fuzzamorous. They don't deserve to be shut out of making money because one of their customers is an attention whore weeb that doesn't know when to stop spending other peoples' money.

>>44576

sending one now

>>44570

Did I personally slight you in the past somehow and don't remember? I really am sorry if I did. If you don't like my character for any reason, I understand, but transferring the hate onto the owner seems kind of silly, no?

>>44572

>Also how the fuck is possible that everyone we comment instantly reply to us?Everyone browese /fur/ now?

Like I said, someone else pointed me to this thread earlier. And I do browse 8chan, but quit checking /furry/ when I felt like the spam bots weren't gonna stop. By the time /fur/ was set up, I had already lost the habit of checking more than /v/.

>>44582

Go back to being anonymous shithead, nobody gives a flying fuck who you are here.

>>44583

I'll do you right

At least save a higher quality image, that upscaling did nothing good for it

>>44577

>stop spending other peoples' money

What gave you this assumption? I will be spending 100% my own hard earned money. Well, along with the money from the person I'd be splitting the animation with.

>>44580

Thanks!

>>44584

As you wish.

>>44581

*slides into the room in socks* xD

um... o_o hi. X3

im just gonna... um... let me see here... >_< *clicky clicky* save that pic you posted....

and if you don't mind, reblog it on my tumblr? :3

*slides back out of the room*

>>44582

Yeah unless this guy give us some examples of her being an asshole I will assume this fag is james or his friend wanting us to be his little personal army

>>44584

Considering much of the thread is talking about him, it's pretty understandable for him to use the name for posts he wants to address as himself. He doesn't need it though, unless someone is posing as him.

>>44591

Or her, rather. Just noticed that.

>>44589

>Living in a hardwood floor house

>>44589

Before the spam wave /furry/ was flooded by far worse shitpost than those examples you gave

>>44596

>Not buying new socks every week or so and polishing the floor to stay slick

>>44590

You must be insane. The only person I would suspect is the person who showed up here, name and avatarfagging, to show everyone what a "good person" they were. Sorry but the evidence points to some 4D chess going on here, my man.

>>44590

I have a feeling I can sometimes come off as cold, since I'm your classic "doesn't initiate conversations and doesn't carry them well either" type of person. But in reality I'm just kind of boring.

>>44602

Well, yeah. I don't like the fact that somehow someone has grown to dislike me without even interacting with me to the point of trying to get in the way of one of my hobbies. I'm not doing this to convince the whole board, just you.

>>44606

>hobbies

>porn

pathetic

i wish pence would gas all furfags cause of shit like this. spending 6k on fucking porn when you could fund an indie film with that kind of cash.

the only film you'd make if you had full director control would be more porn, though. your fucked up brain can't process creative ideas without involving porn in some way.

talked to a furfag last night about mythology, we were discussing this obscure deity that can make automatrons out of metals and magics to genocide people for him.

him: "man this is really cool, i should design some automatrons of my own similar to his.

yeah? that'd be cool! let me see them!

"okay this is what i have so far, what do you think?"

cool! draw more!

after that it all fell apart when he drew it with a horse dick.

he allowed himself some creative design work for a whole one fucking sketch before his mind instantly went back to porn. you are all so fucked up it makes me sick

>>44606

>s-someone has it out for me!!! look at these meanies!!!

>literally nobody from the auction has come here but you

Come off it dude. Your psyops are utter shit. You're even more despicable than people thought if you're actually trying to make it look like people are plotting against you to garner sympathy.

>>44611

no these guys https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalkotauroi

he drew anthro versions of these and gave them ballistas and rapiers and really cool hairdos.

i was really excited, i was asking him if i could use his drawings in a story i'm writing, then oops! nope! "i made him flamboyant cause he's a faggot, he takes it up the ass mmm i wanna fuck him so hard"

fucking goddamn this is why no one likes furries, porn addicted fucking freaks

>>44609

I actually have some fairly grand ideas that are not porn-related at all, but getting those done would actually be out of my budget. Sex is has been an integral part of the community since the beginning, though, so if you can't help but be disgusted by it, I don't know what to tell you except set up your filters and blacklists.

>>44610

>make it look like people are plotting against you

There were literally people posting cheering on James and trying to get my PayPal shut down before I even posted.

>>44578

>>44575

I just noticed that Eeriefag send a message of support to James.

Fuck off, you shitposted this board more than anyone in all possible ways, roleplay,grammar nazism,namefag,derail,politc bullshit etc

This entire drama could be another form of shitpost.

>>44613

>People are cheering on my competition, waaaaaaaahhhhh

Did you ever think that maybe its because your character is ugly as sin and nobody wants to see it? Why does there have to be some grand conspiracy? Why can't the fact just be that the overwhelming majority opinion is that your character is not desirable in any way, shape, or form? Can you be any more stuck up? My god. You don't belong here. Just get the fuck out. Nobody wants to hear "your side" of things and every post you make just digs you a deeper and deeper hole.

>>44613

i have no idea who you are and don't give a fuck. FurAffinity is for anthros and I will always no matter who the artist is or who owns the OC take a shit on humans and tell them to fuck off.

THERE ARE 50,000,000 FUCKING PORN SITES FOR HUMANS

AND ONLY 2 MAJOR PORN SITES FOR ANTHROS

FUCK OFFFFFFFFF.

Why the fuck would you invade one of only two sites? why?

>>44615

>You don't belong here

Neither do you Salos.Also nice samefag.

>>44615

>can you be any more stuck up? My god. You don't belong here. Just get the fuck out

You have no idea how cringy and personally upset you sound right now. You're the one he needs to stop right now. Seriously, cut the drama because it's only coming from you.

>>44622

>>44618

>Samefag defense force

Can we PLEASE ban all avatarfags on sight, do you want this to keep happening?

>>44615

I know that not everyone enjoys my character and I couldn't care less. Hate her all you want, I just want to not be hated just because I own her.

>>44619

Well, I suppose I've never realized this side of it, but there is no strict rule against humans on the site.

>>44625

For the love of God STOP REPLYING TO SALOS.

>>44628

Does anyone that used f-list have that drawing of Salos saved? He only had one on his profile.

>>44628

Oh, right. I suppose I've tried enough.

>>44628

This, and maybe report.

>>44633

board owner is already in this thread

>>44633

The only reports that need to be made are against these barely relevant faggots coming in and out of this thread posting pictures of themselves like anybody cares.

>>44628

I found his FA through this thread so everyone can add it to their block list: https://www.furaffinity.net/user/plusminus1/

>>44636

"man those antifa guys are such fags for blocking everyone huh guys"

3 hours later

"guys i found salos, block him!"

feel free btw, you should know i've been a furfag for a lot longer than fucking june of this year hahahahahaha

that's my 40th ban dodge account

Can we all agree that salos is the worst violator of anonymity

>>44640

You can pick any one of an upper middle class job and be able to afford that. Also consider that it's to be paid off over a period of up to 3 months, as per the auction description.

>>44641

everyone who doesn't use punctuation is salos. you didn't capitalize salos' name, so you're just salos trying to get attention.

>>44644

I swap between writing styles to increase my anonymity.

>>44643

Yeah I was going to add that in my post but my phone kinda glitched out, RIP

Its still around 1300+ per month and maybe its just my poorfag brain taking over but its still a lot

>>44515

I can confirm this doesn't work. Did it to miles-df, no action on PayPal's end. Even pointed out that he was breaking actual PayPal TOS by selling physical adult content outside of the USA. Did nothing.

>>44532

It's not overpriced.

>>44640

The problem here is that you're assuming they're doing this ON TOP OF whatever normie things people tend to spend money on. It works if that's you're only hobby: buying stupidly expensive furry commissions and shit. Most people in a stable job build up several thousand dollars of disposable income per year, at least. Some of them buy video games, some of them go on vacations, some of them gamble it away, some of them spend it all buying Starbucks and fast food every day. This guy just uses it on furry shit.

>everyone who disagrees me is salos

>everyone who types like this is salos

is this the hot new meme?

>>44682

it's not new, people have been using it since /furry/. one time i used the https://8ch.net/search.php on my various aliases on 2015 /furry/ and got 100 results in total, most in threads i never even posted in.

it's been dead ever since i stopped posting on f-list. not sure why it's making a comeback. if I had to make a guess? it's one guy mad cause i made fun of his beloved disney films twice this month.

alternatively it's this sex obsessed "waifuist" mad cause i repeatedly called him out on having nothing to say about his waifu other than he wants to fuck him, and then i ejected him from my life. that happened pretty recently too.

the thing that bothers me about it most is salos was my least used alias. literally i used it for three months and that's all. "Marco Neko autist" or simply "Marco" is the best one because i requested drawings of and avatarfagged as marco for five whole fucking years, or "Eeriefag" cause i've been with him for coming up to two years now.

but salos? four fucking months dude, what is that about? i really made these f-list guys mad enough that they kept my irrelevant name alive all this time in just four months. i guess that means that f-list users are more sensitive to trolling than even the tumblr users in the draw threads.

>>44687

i'm high as shit on morphine btw so sorry if this one is even more incomprehensible than my usual messages.

tl;dr i made braindead retards mad and they're reviving a 2014-2015 meme that doesn't even make sense and is just testament to how big of an emotional impact i had on the pussy babies in f-list. salos is my least used internet handle of all time, used exclusively on f-list for just three or four months,, but i made them mad enough in that short period that they've kept it alive and relevant

>>44687

oh were you that guy really into cats pissing themselves, fuck you then

but i agree that "tehcait" is even worse than you

>>44691

no the guy into the cats pissing themselves was some other guy, he's a moderator on http://wildcritters.ws. i've never talked to him.

>>44716

>If it has ears, have no fears

>If it has a snout, get it out

Their board is weird logic

Their character is absolute shit. I wouldn't mind the absurd price that the auction has gotten up to if they weren't a disgusting human.

>>44730

But they're a cat! Nya~n! =^3^=

>>44730

Don't worry, /ourguy/ still has the lead at 8600.

>>44732

fuck yes! go james!

>>44730

>Fuzz doesn't draw humans, either, so I couldn't use Sponty even if I tried!

>>44736

Where did he say that?

Because if he did that's amazing.

>>44737

earlier in the thread she said that. i cant find any proof fuzz said that on their page though..

>>44736

what character would he use if not his human? does he have any others?

when people don't have their own OC's, you know what they commission?

shitty manchild licensed characters. pokemon inbound.

this is bad, guys. this no humans rule means the tranny winning the auction is even worse than we thought.

>>44742

who told you about this thread? i want a name

>>44740

Does Fuzz actually have any human pieces in his entire gallery though? I've looked pretty far back and haven't seen any. Didn't check any of the sketch pages closely though.

>>44742

Would you people STOP FUCKING COMING TO THIS THREAD

>>44743

It's a long story, actually. I found it via somebody's favourite website listing on another website, and as I was scrolling down I spotted this thread about the auction.

>>44745

I promise, it wasn't intentional!

>>44744

I've seen his human artwork, it's not bad. Could use work, though.

>>44746

:ok_hand: i don't believe you but whatever, there was no way you would give up the name either way.

come visit my board too :) >>>/eerie/

>>44747

Post it? I'm interested in seeing it.

>>44746

>It wasn't intentional

>Follows the link here anyways

???

??????????????

>>44752

I'm not sure if he'd appreciate it considering it's not attached to his furry porn account at all. So, gotta respect him and not. I know how much damage furries can do with that kind of info.

>>44746

There just has to be someone telling everybody about this thread, because very fucking no name involved in this whole shitfest has showed up in this thread. Literally every single one. And (((TehCait))) said that someone had tipped her off to people fucking with her Paypal. So somebody is being a real fucking party pooper ITT.

>>44752

Ooh, if this is a proof thing, what would you like me to do? I could add a shout to my FA regarding 8chan or...? What'd sate you?

>>44753

I went to the 8chan link just to see what was being posted.

>>44755

I wasn't told. I'm a little wary about giving names, because I don't want to rope other people in, but he has this board as his favourite website and I clicked on it for porn.

>>44755

I was the one that suggested the Paypal shittery, but I'm a little glad I didn't leave more information than that, because I don't want that to get attached to me.

But just the same, yeah it is a little annoying someone is snitching.

>>44759

commissioners honestly want attention more than they want art. you jack off to a picture three times and get bored of it, but the attention you draw to yourself from having a gallery filled with porn you didn't make? now that's a lifetime of jacking off.

>>44754

Thank you.

>>44760

>When a faggot buys popularity just by having money to throw around at artists and gets linked back

>When they're literally 10x more popular in terms of watches and pageviews than you art, and you're a legitimate artist that can barely get $35 for a picture IF someone you know bothers to ask you

>>44742

is your boyfriend loaded? cause his profile says hes still in school.

>>44742

That's outdated.

>>44767

She's done this before though... she once didn't bid for something like two days. I'm kind of worried about what'll come towards the end of the bid; if anyone else leaps on in the final hours.

>>44771

you guys need some extra cash just to make sure? some people have already expressed willingness to donate to help.

>>44771

I'm pretty sure she's never gotten nearly universal hate before, because she's never stepped outside of her hugbox and seen what people actually think of her. Add that to her paypal getting fucked and I doubt any surprises are coming.

>>44772

Don't fucking answer this "Lars." This is Salos, he is the number one shitposter here and I am 99 percent sure he is also our resident snitch. If you give your Paypal address then he will try to get you banned from there like we've done to TehCait. Just ignore him. You can tell its him because he posts with absolutely zero effort, capitalization, or punctuation.

>>44773

damn i've been foiled again

>>44771

I'd rather not share Paypals about the place, just to be certain.

>>44773

As for proof, go to my FA and look to my shouts. I'll post Hedgehog or something. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/polarisstar/

>>44773

The only one that has been hating on her is you. Jesus Christ, you're trying to rag on her like she shot your dog and shat in your mouth, then shot you and shat on your dog's corpse. Like >>44590 said unless you have proof she's a nun-murdering psychopath, you're making yourself look terrible.

>>44776

>This is all the work of one evil person

My trips and I came here to laugh at you.

>>44776

I actually missed that comment. I (or we) are not trying to drum up an army. Honestly, I posted because there were a couple of details I wanted to just mention, like the orange rabbit and the German shepherd.

>>44778

So then fuck off already namefag. Or at least go to anon now that you don't need to be recognized.

>>44778

okay bye

>>44778

Forgot about that. Sorry.

>>44781

don't worry, only fucks getting mad about the name field. they haven't got the memo yet that this place is a shithole that lost all integrity as far back as 2008.

i think all of the people that write long formatted posts and expect a response and think of themselves as improving the quality of the community and shit are probably very very very new and don't realize yet what a shithole it is, or they're over 30 and didn't grow up with a computer and this technology will always be alien to them no matter how long they've been here

>>44783

>they haven't got the memo yet that this place is a shithole that lost all integrity as far back as 2008

>this place

Are you talking about FA? 8ch hasn't been around that long.

And if you're talking about 4chan or imageboards in general, it's a different site with a different community.

>>44777

Still waiting to see proof of what she did to you to get you so absolutely assmad. As far as I can tell she's just other idiot who spends way too much money on "art", of which there are a dime a dozen furfags whomst do the same.

>>44784

nah FA was shit from day one.

i guess it's not really that the image boards dropped in quality and lost integrity, it's that the internet as a whole did by shifting so rapidly from being an anti-normie hobby to something that anyone can access from absolutely anything, even fucking refigerators have computers built into the door so you can post on 8chan while you're cooking dinner with your wife and kids. nowhere is safe on the internet.

but weird old dudes didn't get the memo and are still here pretending this is an intellectual establishment and writing big ass thought out posts and trying to enforce unwritten rules and culture everywhere LMAO "DON'T USE NAMES AND TRIPCODES" LIKE AS IF IT FUCKING MATTERS AT THIS POINT. hahahahahhaha. look around you man it's a pig farm.

...i'm one of the guys who writes big well thought out posts sometimes. i just don't know where else to go, it's all so terrible. i write 5 paragraphs and i get either nothing or two sentences typed on a shitty phone in response, i hope i die in my sleep tonight, i don't have anything in common with anyone

>>44786

I don't think it's wrong to spend a lot of money on art. It's like collecting stuff. People with money to spend on hobbies will often collect stuff. Action figures, books, statues, cars, etc. This here is just collecting digital art, with the bonus that you can customize what you want collected via commissions. There's really nothing wrong with it aside from spending too much money on art that doesn't hold up to the value the artist is asking for.

>>44787

>nowhere is safe on the internet

I'd reword that. Nowhere is safe with the internet.

It's always watching. Look at how many classrooms have cameras that are active, hackable, always doing surveillance. It's weird.

>>44789

by nowhere is safe i meant every single website, chatroom, and application is filled to the brim with shit eating retards you have nothing in common with. 100% of the time without fail. even onion browser turned into a normie meme almost instantly

>>44788

If that's not it, what has gotten you so fanny flustered to go so far as to get her paypal banned? The only online presence I can find about her is the art. Outside of that, nothing. No drama pages, no reddit posts, fuck the only time I see her comments is when she's bidding on something.

>>44791

Oh, I'm not the same person as the person bidding on the auction in the first place. Sorry for the mixup.

>>44791

i'd like to get everyone who buys porn with paypal banned, i don't care if they're guilty of anything other than that, i'd turn in my best friend and get them banned too. i hate porn.

and i especially hate porn of humans on FA.

porn of humans on [one of the 50,000,000 porno sites for humans]? that's fine.

but there's only two porno sites for anthros and when you post your humans there where they don't belong, impose on us in one of only two sites on the whole planet when you have no reason to other than you want attention? yeah i have reason enough to hate this person and i hope they die

>>44793

why not just go around and collect the paypal addresses of artists who sell porn? you can find emails on nearly half the pages and in commission sheets.

>>44791

>still with the "its only one person" meme

Tsktsk tbh

>>44797

Fine, there's the guy who's running a one-man crusade against everyone that buys porn over paypal. What's your excuse?

>>44793

I thought DACAS was your everything Salos why would you report him :(

>>44776

I like how you think only one person hates that tranny """rabbit""" whore. You have absolutely zero self-awareness.

>>44799

While I don't support his actions, he's attempting to enforce the rules that aren't being enforced by the site itself. It's not wrong, even if it's not something a lot of people here (including myself) like.

>>44809

>politics happen

>friend becomes unsufferable cunt and says I'm a waste of his time

>blocks me without warning and cries about it

>report his patreon and he loses $80/mo

>>44809

I like how you think literally everyone hates the character and the owner as much as you do. You have absolutely zero self-awareness.

I still don't see why people care about chump change so much. Like, I've personally known a couple people that make more than 100k/year in exchange for doing a shitty job in management positions.

I doubt these artists make much more than 20k off their efforts. If they are working another job to actually pay the rent, or if they are relying completely on art, I don't see why they shouldn't charge whatever the people are willing to pay in order to stay above the poverty line.

Or, am I just misunderstanding how much money these people make, and they are actually all pulling 30-50k from the art trade?

>>44814

Never said that, in fact you contradict that by being a retard yourself.

Meanwhile you (or so I assume) claim that everyone who hates "her" is the same person.

>>44816

patreon.com/user?u=121401

patreon.com/fek

You need to stop being a newfag.

People become millionaires by doing nothing in the furry fandom, get that through your thick skull.

>>44816

Right before Meesh hid his earnings on Patreon he was making $5000 a month at 850 patrons. He is now at 1400 patrons so do the math, he is very well above the poor sod that cleans tables for a living.

>>44823

And now he's gonna get $4k for some sketches and not any actual animation lol

>>44823

Yeah that's just shy of 100k a year.

How much of that do you think is (((taxed)))? :^)

>>44819

>Never said that

>>Literally nobody on the entire website other than her wants to see her win this auction at all.

>>Also I would like to point out that every single comment on the submission that you see as hidden were people telling her to stop because nobody wanted to see her win.

>>Nobody wants to see your ugly as shit character on that website, this one, or any other.

>>Did you ever think that maybe its because your character is ugly as sin and nobody wants to see it?

If those aren't all your posts, then I apologize for confusing you for another poster. If not, then get your head out of your ass.

>>44831

These aren't all my posts, no.

And while I disagree with what some of these posts have to say, it proves my argument, that multiple people hate "her" and "her" character.

>>44833

I hate her and her character too..

>>44829

At minimum 35%. More you make, more the % goes up.

Ya gotta remember too that self employment doesn't come with health insurance, school loans are rape, and then there's cost of living on top of that. Fek has talked about how he's dealing with loans and wants to help his parents out of a shitty situation as example.

Before mentions of " real jobs" come up; retail doesn't pay enough in some places to deal with cost of living and loans for artists at times.

I hate caits stupid ass characters too but this is silly as fuck.

>>44838

I was implying that it was off the books like oh so many other sources of furry income

>>44841

Nah, impossible. PayPal snitches on you to the IRS once you pass $20k in earnings with their service. If he's getting over 100K from Patreon, he's definitely paying taxes in some form.

>>44842

You also have to receive 200 payments in a year for Paypal to send your info to the IRS. If Patreon sends 12 payments every year Meesh or any other Patreon artist still has 188 free slots for services like commissions. Not sure if they manage to pump that number every year though and even then they could be using a separate account for them.

>inb4 tranny raises the bid in the last minute

>james cant counter it cus the lack of time

>tranny wins

>tranny ruins a good animation

>>44843

>>44844

Patreon has you sign tax documents when you start one, which it submits after you make a certain amount per year. So yes, Meesh has patreon taxes filed.

>>44846

We need to give james our energy.

>>44846

Honestly this is why I dislike bidding in general.

It should always go on until all but one just give up, or everyone is silent for a very long time.

>>44846

>>44850

Submission says there is a 12 hour snipe guard. When auction ends, last bid has to stand uncontested for 12 hours to prevent last minute bits. Cait cant cuck

>>44802

i haven't been friends with him in months, some shit went down

>>44809

>I like how you think only one person hates that tranny """rabbit""" whore.

You gave no reason at all, no example at all to anyone to hate this use Salos

Yes we know that's you fucking retard, right after telling people to send support to this generic fox fursona furfag you send a message with your own account.

>>44857

What about rare species, tho?

>>44860

Is it a normal rare species? Plain. Is it a custom species? Sparkledog.

>>44857

>>44863

Not entirely true. You can make a character based off a "generic" species interesting. It's not all about the appearance, you know? Other factors like posture and behavior also matter.

>>44859

How about you scroll up? There's plenty of reasons why someone would hate it.

I still find it cute how you think everyone who does in fact hate it is salos.

>>44864

>How about you scroll up? There's plenty of reasons why someone would hate it.

Name one then?Oh wait you can't.There is no reason at all for anyone to hate this user, you just want your little personal army to help the character that you want to get this animation.

>>44865

The only reason I can see is because the character human, which is is understandable, but "Lars" said she would be using a different character anyway.

>>44865

I don't hate the user as much as I hate the character itself. It has no place on any furry website, as it's literally just /monster/ shit.

Honestly, I don't care who wins the auction in the end as long as it's good, and knowing tehcait, the odds of that are bigger with james.

>>44869

I thought that guy was a fursona.

>>44970

I think you may be thinking of 0r0ch1's rabbit. Who is also an orange rabbit. But with black tattoo-like markings.

>>44876

struck is the term you're looking for

>>44876

Most artists do that after getting popular, slowly they abandon their projects and only do comissions.

Wich is fine but I can't understand why their watchers don't leave the account, not for "revenge" or anything that autistic but simply because I don't think anyone would be interested in watching nothing more from someone than random shitty sparkledogs.

>>44871

holy shit you sound like an SJW. This level of autistic screeching only comes from them. Fuck off and go outside

>>44876

i agree with you that galleries of nothing but commissions are cancer. every single one of my favorite artists without fail draws nothing but commissions now, all garbage. they abandoned their OC's, dropped them hard as a rock as soon as they learned they could get a "paycheck" (lmao $20 to sell their soul? doesn't seem worth it to me).

one guy i know had my most favorite OC of all time. he hasn't drawn it in two fucking years, draws pokemon commissions instead. i pointed it out to him and he and 12 of his buddies reported me to dragoneer. "hey bro don't you think you're getting paid very little to justify never drawing personal art literally ever?" "WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST SAY TO ME? DRAGONEER HELP!"

i don't care what the subject of the commissions are, you are a retard. the whole point of commissioning is to be able to have someone draw something that would otherwise not exist.

the problem here is that 500 terabytes of shitty human girls wearing bunny ears taking it up the ass already exists. there's a billion dollar corporation exclusively about that haha. commissioning something that already exists is so redundant, it's amazing to me that they want attention that badly.

>>44885

>this mad because someone told you the dick you're sucking is pozzed

Well, you shouldn't have been a faggot in the first place. Enjoy your aids.

>>44887

I dont like feks' game nor his audience. Niggas like you assume people suck a persons' chode just cause someone say that this aint that deep to be autistic about.

>>44820