/fur/ - Furry★

>>41966 (OP)

Also, fucking impossible to find a pic of someone lying on a couch without their dick or tits out.

humans are shitty and boring and ugly and disgusting and every word that comes out of their mouth is retarded

i've been wronged by humans all my life, i'm incapable of having a relationship that doesn't end in betrayal. humans have physically assaulted me and conspired against me and are as we speak.

i see porn of human women and i just think about how she'd probably get off fucking my life up and stealing my wallet and probably has mixed race children from a divorce that she doesn't take care of. how in the fuck can anyone jack off to nasty cunts?

whereas animals lack sentience and lack sapience and are incapable of having an evil thought. they're of upmost purity. i can't think of anything bad about animals to say, they're above criticism due to their ignorance.

same goes for fiction. it's all fantasy, everyone is a piece of shit, any piece of media would be greatly improved by replacing the cast with animal people so i don't have to constantly think to myself "this protag would never do that, humans are innately selfish". i like dramas where the human protag is fucked up. only realistic media there is.

>>41969

>whereas animals lack sentience and lack sapience

I don't think you actually know what either of these words mean.

>>41970

yes i do and you must be quite the annoying dog owner if you believe animals have either of those things. your dog doesn't love you, it feels nothing other than instinct.

and that's why i like them, they're simple and predictable.

Furry characters make my dick hard and also enhance my enjoyment of non sexual media. Not that complex.

>>41966 (OP)

Desire for something more, I wager.

Though, I read "furry" as "xenophile" in this regard.

Humans are dull. They're status quo. I have a lot of desire to go beyond that. To move forward, as it were.

Besides that, the notion of working past our differences to find love in the big fire-breathing dragon is rather pleasant.

I don't particularly dislike humans, though. And I'm very happy as a human.

I think a lot of this comes down to my exposure to odd fiction as a kid. Stories of humans exploring unknown lands and making friends were always my favorite. So, from an early age, I got this idea that the only thing a human requires to fall in love or befriend something, is to be able to communicate with it, pretty much.

>>41972

Dogs are capable of pretty high-level thinking. Not human tier, obviously. Not even crow tier.

You'd be more at home with something like chickens. Completely mindless beyond finding food.

>>41972

While one could debate if canids are sapient, sentience is just awareness of ones physical surroundings and being able to act on this sensory input. Fucking worms have sentience. Stop using big words you don't understand.

>>41975

In his defense, the term's been used rather poorly to refer to anything with human level intelligence for a while.

Sapience is a far better term, though even there I'd make the case it isn't perfect. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a clean cut term for simple human-level or greater intelligence.

>>41975

what are your sources cause that sure isn't the definition of sentience i'm seeing on the first page of google results. yours is only found on vegan faggot articles.

Same as most people here. Also, I consciously chose to be a part of it. No other genre or community intrigues me as much as furries/xenos.

>>41983

>back of the knees

It's pretty simple for me. I have a hot sister. I find incest physically revolting so to avoid ever having to realize the fantasy girl I'm baiting to has a similar face to my sister I imagine a sexy animal girl.

escapism is my reason. you know like daydreaming about fantasy furry worlds and shit, I keep them only to myself tho. life is miserable and daydreaming is one of the reasons why I do not break apart and kill myself.

Watching children's cartoons after masturbating and frequent exposure to /co/.

One thing I (and others) have noticed about frequent porn use is fetish escalation. Among other things, a common escalation is for straight males to begin to find traps/shemales/futa/herms attractive, and then even begin to find male porn attractive. I'm curious as to how similar the reverse case is. Do any homosexual furries here begin to feel attracted to female porn? Or is this likely to be more of a taboo-based fetish?

I still don't call myself a furry no matter how frequently dragons and furry asses get my dick up. I don't even see myself as one, and thank god because too many furries act pathetic as fuck as if it's for sport and I'd hate to carry willingly the association towards an even more retarded mass of people.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>42044

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_fluidity

>>42044

>self proclaimed new topic to derail the thread to be about sexuality

Stop that and stop equating furry to porn. Lewd comes up in the topic but fuck if it isn't cancer to make everything purely about porn all the fucking time.

>>42122

>Stop that

No. You chose to respond to my post so don't put that 'derailing' shit on me.

>stop equating furry to porn

I'm not. I'm posting a question about furry porn to a psychology thread in a furry subdomain half-full of porn. This is not some SFW board created for dysmorphic cosplayers, so you shouldn't be surprised to see a lot of fetishists here.

>>42071

>"straight"

What I meant was they were straight before escalation. Anons can do the whole "traps are/n't gay" debate elsewhere, that isn't what I was trying to say.

Is fapping to Jenny morally wrong? She's canonically like 5 years old, but still tho

>>42122

>>42191 (me)

Sorry about my shithead reply, I was in a bad mood and was letting off some steam.

Nevertheless, I don't see the harm in discussing pornography. It is a significant part of this site. If you want to discuss other aspects of the fandom you are free to. My posting, nor any other Anon's posting, can inhibit that discussion. You want less posts about porn? Make the change you want to see, instead of drawing attention to the posts you dislike.

>>42044

I don't think that happens. Gay men who are in denial or who were raised straight are just more likely to find out they're gay if they experiment with gay porn. Obviously. Homosexuals who know they're homosexuals are significantly less likely to enter denial after they've left it. Besides, people who are 100% straight or 100% gay are pretty damn rare.

>>42213

>Gay men who are in denial or who were raised straight

Which is literally everybody. Parents start joking about their kids finding a "boyfriend/girlfriend" of the opposite sex when they're in preschool, and there really aren't any real gay role models in children's media. There might be a black Disney princess, and I wouldn't put it past them to soon have a Jewish one (if nothing else than to make ol' Walt himself spin in his grave so fast it makes the Earth rotate backwards) but I doubt there will ever be a lesbian Disney princess. Too many people would call it the gay agenda and scream abotu SJWs or whatever, and it would destroy the entire trademark. Marvel and DC can cram as many faggot superheros into the comics that nobody fucking reads as they want, but it won't change the fact that no kid can name a superhero who isn't straight (but I bet they could name all their girlfriends).

The fact is, children are basically never even exposed to the possibility that they even COULD be gay. The gay characters on TV shows are never "role models"; at the most gay is something that would be presented to or thought of by the child as something that happens to other people. It's just like no kid ever really thinks they're going to have cancer or get crippled in a car crash (but I've read books where things like this DO happen to children). There is essentially zero media with gay children. It's totally okay to have a ten-year-old boy kiss a girl on a playground in a PG movie, but have him kiss a boy and it would make the movie instantly rated R, and it might not even be able to be made at all. They'd call it child porn. They'd say that the gays are trying to turn children into targets for molestation.

>>42223

>if nothing else than to make ol' Walt himself spin in his grave

You've been watching too much Family Guy. Walt never held anti-Semitic views. Disney even produced Anti-Nazi propaganda films in the 40s. His own support of Jewish causes is well-documented and extends from the 1930s up through the end of his life. In 1955, the Beverly Hills chapter of B’nai B’rith (the oldest Jewish service organization in the world) declared Walt its “Man of the Year.” Three years later, in 1958, the Kansas City chapter of B’nai B’rith awarded him a Distinguished Service Citation. This article goes explains the misconception in more detail than is suitable for an imageboard

http://www.disneyhistoryinstitute.com/2014/02/in-defense-of-walt-walt-disney-and-anti.html

>>42248

It was a joke, anon. And no matter how hard you white-knight for them, you will always be a filthy gentile who is going to Hell, in their eyes.

>>42267

I don't think Jews believe in Hell; at least not most denominations. I'm pretty sure the Torah just says that your soul dies.

>>42213

I disagree. While I am someone who'd never fuck a man in the real world, and have absolutely no inclination to so much as look at a man and say "that's hot", I do occasionally like the odd gay picture.

This applies to women as well, to be fair. I don't get half the attraction to regular women as I do from porn, especially furry porn.

Basically, with porn, I'm a lot less picky. Hell, I've even jerked it to fetishes that I find absolutely disgusting, because I'm already there and why not.

>>42326

I'm not saying it's impossible to jerk it to pictures that are normally outside of your turn-ons (being gay myself I do occasionally find some f-fur art that I like) but what I am saying is that if you have a consistent and regular pattern of masturbating to gay porn, you're probably not as straight as you think you are; you've just never considered the possibility that you have some attraction to men.

It's like, if you've masturbated to maybe a half-dozen gay pictures in your life, okay you're probably not gay. But if you masturbate to gay pictures once a week, then you are gay. Not very gay, but more than zero percent. Do you see what I mean?

>>42328

Defining sexuality via porn consumption or fantasies, rather than actions, is a thorny business. If I spend a week masturbating to only women which I could probably manage if it contained favorite fetishes or they had like really big clits and flat chests or something it wouldn't make me straight. Not even a little bit straight, because I would NEVER have actual sex with a woman. Most men can masturbate watching paint dry if they try hard enough, and that wouldn't make them sexually attracted to a wall.

>>42328

Then I'd say you agree with what >>42044 was talking about, you ask me.

I don't think he's saying a constant fapping to gay shit. Just an occasional acceptance of the lot.

In my case I think it stems originally from the fascination with space I had as a kid. Back then we still kind of had a space program, shuttles went up once in a while. It made me wonder what other kinds of intelligent life could be in the universe. When I learned about evolution I wondered about other worlds where apes never evolved and if other creatures like wolves or birds or dolphins could have become sentient. Disney and video games may have helped that because I like fun things.

>>42273

Can confirm, I was told this by a Jewish woman co-worker I was on really good terms with. Jews don't believe in Heaven and Hell like Christians or Muslims, it's more of an afterlife-type place. Your soul comes from there, and when you die your soul returns. It's neither good nor bad. Very similar to ancient Greek thought. I have no doubt the Orthodox and their rabbis believe that gentiles are scum, but otherwise most Jews who aren't in the elite are barely religious and don't care.

>humans are dull and boring and shit

I don't get this. I fucking despise humans myself but you have to admit they're pretty damn interesting, even though most of it comes from the really oversized brain.

>>42439

Familiarity breeds contempt? Neophelia?

>>42439

Dull and boring visually. It's why almost every cartoon ever made distorts and re-envisions how humans look to make the sight of them more interesting.

>>42397

You saying that people are going to undergo operations like tranny sex changes in the future except to become animals? Scary stuff.

>>42439

Just because something is "interesting" doesn't make it good. Train wrecks are interesting. Statistics on infants who die of AIDS are interesting. Those videos on liveleak of people getting blown into pieces are interesting. A tearful confession of a mother whose child died of brain cancer is interesting.

Fact of the matter is, the universe is extremely fucking boring on the timescale of a human lifetime. Usually, nothing interesting at all happens for thousands if not millions of years to things like mountains and planets and stars. Animals, even the clever ones, have reached a point of equilibrium with their environment, and so do not change or do anything interesting, either. The only interesting things going on are caused by human activity. It's caused animals to do interesting things to adapt to the changes, and is causing the global climate to do interesting things, also. Perhaps in time, humans will cause stars and galaxies to do interesting things, also.

95% of furries are into pedophilia and the "drawings are not illegal" aspect is a loophole to get off to kids. At least openly, sorry but we know you fuckers have actual CP in secret and have probably touched lots of kids. You just won't admit to illegal shit openly.

>>42482

>95% of furries are into pedophilia

[citation needed]

>>42482

Welcome to our happy family, then, you numb cunt.

>>42482

>>>/tumblr/

>>42482

Projecting I see

>>42482

You've gotten a lot of flak for this post, but honestly now, are you really wrong?

The answer is yes. Yes you are.

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>>42569

You don't have to bite my head off over a typo.

I meant to say 9.5%, not 95%.

>>42587

Where did you even get that number?

I asked e621 (which I found is an excellent metric for furry statistics) and found that the posts that are cub with a rating of either questionable or explicit are 33,675 out of 1,174,693; which is about 2.8%.

Keep in mind that the actual number of "sexual" posts will be much lower. Pictures will not be tagged as "safe" if they contain violence. This quick search also doesn't discern between hardcore fucking and mere casual nudity. The latter is merely acknowledging that children have genitals (how terrible!) and not making a big deal out of it. I might be able to get a better number by using different filters, but this five minutes is the extent of effort I will bother expending on your behalf.

>>42482

>You just won't admit to illegal shit openly

oh and you would? well aren't you the virtuous one

>>41966 (OP)

Escapism/autism

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23679066

>>42612

>yours is sick

Nah man it's saying you're sick if you /don't/ have a fetish.

>>42971

It's a bit odd, isn't it, when you're in a community that actually pressures you to have some weird fetish. I've got a bit of a thing for feet, but apparently you're not man enough in this fandom until you've escalated to hardcore BDSM. Foot fetish is borderline vanilla by comparison.

I've genuinely seen decapitation porn. Fucking Christ, guys.

>>42984

You've received quite a lot of pressure from your father over the years, haven't you? No matter what you do he's never quite satisfied. It's always something, right? Something about you that he sees in himself that disgusts him.

You feel inadequate. Small, humble, meek, in a way that makes you uncomfortable. The only way you can rationalize this is with physical body parts, so that's how it expresses itself, but you can't deny that the problem is entirely psychological, hence the fascination with remaining alive long after survival becomes impossible. You acknowledge that your problems can be easily solved, but you fail to take action because you feel unprepared or somehow unable to solve them. You are brilliant in your own headspace, but stumbling and awkward interacting with other people in meatspace.

By this point, your super-ego has taken over. Your id is squashed by a fear of the people around you. But it's okay... it's not too late to come back. You just need to redirect yourself toward a less... gruesome path.

>>42987

>>42984

Seek help.

>>42997

You seek help for being a basic bitch.

>>42597

>[spoiler]

I have a similar attraction to cute (very evident in my porn /co/llection), but luckily I have that instinct that just desexualises anyone pre-teen. Fortunately though, I'm not revolted by non-cute things, like real people.

Truth be told, that really sucks and I hope it's not as extreme as I think it is.

>because if you went to your group of friends and told them that you want to bone kitty katswel

well actually I told them I wanted to bone nicole watterson. pretended it was joke though, and we made in-jokes about it for a month or so. I still dont know to this day if they know it's true or not, but they would have long forgotten. also at one point one of them searched her up because they wanted to know if there even was porn of her.

>>42986

Nice try, but I'm experienced enough with fortune-tellers and horoscopes and armchair-psychiatrists to recognize when someone is pulling out an explanation that can apply to literally everyone because it's universal and extremely vague. It was a nice touch including an inferiority-complex and social anxiety because of the fandom we're in, but no dice. I don't have problems talking to people.

That's not even my fetish, either. Not at all. I only like it a little bit because of the boy; it stands out in my head see what I did there? because he's an adorable murdercub.

If you'd rather analyze my real fetishes, go with cub (particularly when dominant and with other cubs) and knotting (and REAL knotting, not that fake furry shit. Not "Oh, let me shove in my already-full-size knot and then I can pull it right back out again," but "Oh, it swelled up to four times the size inside of you; there is no way it's coming out for 30 minutes unless you want a torn ass.")

>>43042

I don't got much for those ones, except a possible joke about anal-retentiveness ew and, if I can be permitted to throw some shit at the wall in case it sticks, your mother might have been too overprotective and may have hurt you trying to keep you safe... or clean. Possibly you make it a point to hang out with like-minded people, possibly other people who have difficulty with their parents, but I don't think that's your case because I've met people like that and I don't think you could be open with them. You're not necessarily crying out for help; it's a normal thing to want to be open, and to be frustrated when you can't find like-minded people.

I'm gonna be honest, I don't know why I feel compelled to play the Freudian psychoanalysis game on you, it's just that for some reason when I saw that picture you posted my brain saw it as a puzzle to solve.

>>43042

>because he's an adorable murdercub

Murdercubs are a big thing for me. Also love any images of Stitch being violent.

>Denial of Reality

>>43197

Most likely the latter.

Don't be surprised when you post a scat-tier fetish and get spoilered.

>>43206

Guro >>>>>> scat, motherfucker.

But fine, I'll spoiler it next time.

>>43197

Cub I think is largely ignored, even if it kind of itches some folk.

Guro, though, is cancer

>>43208

Nah, they're about the same. Depends on the guro, but I'd make the case it's worse often enough.

>>43209

Well that's, like, your opinion man, etc.

>>43220

Do you feel like it's a healthy understanding that you have? If so/not, why?

>>43220

I will say I think part of the reason I like cats is that cats are capable of very meaningful and intimate relationships without a requirement for verbal communication, only with an exchange of wants.

>>43152

>I don't have an inferiority complex

>proudly posts shitty OC sparkledog hybrid

Wew lad your hypocrisy and egotism is through the roof and you don't need to be a shrink to notice that but getting back at what you said your "real fetishes" are, cub and knotting, were you abused as a child? Maybe by a brother or cousin?

>>43264

A superiority complex is not an inferiority complex; too many people make that error. Also, does it even qualify as a "sparkledog" if it doesn't have any bright sparkley colors? Seems unlikely.

>were you abused as a child?

Nope. Only sexual experiences at the time were with boys the same age.

>>43353

that you are severely depressed and alone, and will keep being so for a long time.

>>43353

you're a normie with no fetishes and i bet you go "eww gross XD how do people even get off to this?" to anything other than anal. that's the most vanilla picture i have seen all day.

and you're one of the classic normies too that enjoys attentionwhoring for posting this in the first place.

>>43353

That you are homosexual and furry.

>>43353

Cute, but it makes you a normiefag.

>>43351

>A superiority complex is not an inferiority complex

It depends on your school of thought but a superiority complex can be directly linked to an inferiority complex, it's a defense mechanism.

>too many people make that error.

Again you display this feeling of superiority. Do you often believe you're special? The most intelligent person in the room?

>Also, does it even qualify as a "sparkledog" if it doesn't have any bright sparkley colors?

Is everything to you strictly A or B? Do you often argue semantics? It might not be neon colored but your hybrid fursona still visually fits in the unappealing "OC donut steel" category. Do you have a name for it?

>Nope. Only sexual experiences at the time were with boys the same age.

So these multiple experiences went a little further than "playing doctor"? Are you sure you didn't suffer any kind of abuse? I find it hard to believe you didn't. A kid is incapable of developing that behavior on its own. Did your parents ever noticed and did something about it? Are you aware of other atypical conducts in your childhood?

>>43446

Is this a new pasta?

>>43446

Well, this sure is something.

I made those questions trying to understand you, to get in your shoes, not to be your psychiatrist and fix you. I sure didn't expect such development. I'm afraid I don't have the time nor the patience to continue this in an honest and serious way, especially on this site and format.

Assuming you don't suffer from mythomania, you sure sound like you operate on a different level than most people and I've had my share of people.

>>43446

are you polish?

>>43446

Nice pasta

>>43478

>you sure sound like you operate on a different level than most people

Boy, you have no idea.

>>43446

I'd be quite interested to get to know you. I'm tempted to say you'd find me a terribly boring person, but then again my boyfriend is several standards of deviation above me and he doesn't seem to mind my company at all.

I used to think it was a myth that "most people are stupid," something that people said as an endearing jest, and then I left college and learned something of the staggering depth of human ignorance and apathy. I wish I could say I sympathize with you, but my IQ seems to have peaked at 135, so I suppose I'm relatively lucky.

>>43619

Think of how dumb the average human is. Half the people are dumber than that.

>inb4 pointing out logic flaws, it's a fucking joke, like how the average person has one testicle

>>43353

That you have a good taste in pokemen.

>>43446

While I agree with you on some points, you come off as if you are unaware of different types of intelligence. I know by the way you are communicating that you are not the king of everything.

>How could someone lesser than myself teach me anything?

By that argument, I am greater than you (whatever the fuck that means).

>inb4 "taking a pasta seriously"

yeah I have nothing better to do

>>43619

I can tolerate people if they're at least that intelligent, so long as they have purpose to their life. My academic team instructor once said that he could guarantee all of us were at least IQ 140, but I recognize the limited utility of the metric. All of them were fun and nice people to talk to, although I still wouldn't exactly call them "peers".

One of the other members of the team was the guy who became valedictorian. I was better than him in every subject except his advanced math and physics classes (which are essentially also advanced math classes), mostly because he took primer calculus in like 8th grade. We would compete to see who would get more 9s on our Lit/Lang AP essays; I won handily, but then, my focus was more on life sciences and writing in the first place.

In any case, I wouldn't wish this kind of thing on anyone. I often wonder if anyone else has had years of painful struggles in an attempt to devise a legacy worthy of their capacity, knowing that anything less would be a waste of their life. The movie version of Alan Turing seemed pretty close, but I cannot know how much of that is reality, and how much mere fictional embellishment. I would have liked to meet him, though. I may not be able to understand the math, but I certainly understand that drive of purpose, of duty in the face of one's God-given talents (or luck-given --- whatever). Working together, two men of our specific insanity might be able to produce something exceptionally terrifying.

Because, you see, for the most part it's not a matter of mere intelligence. The vast majority of people simply "settle" in adulthood. They become "small", in the scope of their ideas, their way of thinking, their capacity. Most people are perfectly okay working a pointless job, raising pointless children, watching pointless sports, and talking with their peers about nothing important, and dying having never appreciably affected more than a few dozen lives at best. They are small people.

It was NOT small men who invented the airplane; it was NOT small men who put people on the Moon; it was NOT small men who dreamt up Stonehenge or the Pyramids; it was NOT small men who wondered about the energy locked inside atoms. But the whole world now seems full of nothing but small men. Nobody wants to reach for the stars anymore; nobody wants to dare try to "change the world"; nobody holds inside them this burning insanity, this audacity to believe themselves capable of doing something nobody else has ever done or can do. They just want a life of comfort and mediocrity.

I am probably not the "smartest" person in the world. That title supposedly belongs to some fellow named Chris Langen, who was tested to have an IQ of something like 190-210 (but IQ is an ideal ratio and 200 is a vertical asymptote?). However, I read about him in a Popular Science magazine some decades ago, whereupon I learned he was currently working as a bartender scribbling fantastical Grand Unification Theories on beer napkins. I can't think of a greater example of genius wasted. Doesn't it kill him inside? Knowing that if he knuckled down and worked alongside Stephen Hawking that maybe he could invent FTL travel in his lifetime? I can't understand his lack of wanting to take advantage of his intelligence.

My struggle to find a way to not waste myself is the most important part of my life. If you want to understand me, and understand how I think, you have to start there.

>>43656

>different types of intelligence

This isn't really accurate. "Intelligence" isn't something that has types; it defines an extremely general ability for cognitive processing and problem solving. People's brains are different, yes, and they may be better at some things than others, but that is not the same. That is talent, not intelligence. One typically contrasts a person who is good at math with one who is good at writing, for example, as having differing intelligence. Would you say that an Olympic athlete has a differing intelligence? No, that's talent, you would say. It's all in the brain, either way, however. It's the exact same thing.

The fact is, people merely tend to specialize. A person is not of a differing intelligence if they choose to study history instead of music, or athletics instead of mathematics. Most likely, it could have gone either way, but a person does not have time to focus on multiple difference subjects in their life. In the time of Da vinci, human knowledge was so limited that a single person could actually learn almost everything about every subject; you could write what humanity knew about chemistry or physics in a single small book. This is not possible anymore. A person, no matter their intelligence, cannot be a "Renaissance Man" anymore; there is just too much knowledge. We live in the Information Age, where there are whole libraries on single subjects.

That is why people specialize and focus: because they have to; because they can spend their entire life in the study of a single facet of a single subject of a single discipline. It has nothing to do with what kind of "intelligence" they have. That is just a tool to help children understand what they may or may not be good at, so they can choose a subject of study to focus on.

Why all this nonsense about pasta? Nobody else could possibly write this. Ain't nobody like me, but me.

>>43723

I think he means to say, IQ is not the end all be all. Having a low IQ does not mean you are not wise, as that one Pole says.

And I'd certainly have to agree. I've met a lot of high-IQ people before, and most of them didn't have a single lick of common sense. IQ is not the only factor to determining if someone is 'smart'.

>>43722

mmm. That's the trouble I have with life, really, finding a sense of purpose. I feel like it's very difficult to get your life on a track where such purpose can be found. I think the key step is to become comfortable with your place in life, because only then will you really have restricted your options enough to have some sense of what you can do to leave the world at least a marginally better place than you found it. For example, I don't feel like my calling is to a management position, or anywhere I could expect to become a billionaire, because that would require the use of skills that I neither have nor are interested in acquiring. I'm quite interested in the arts but have very little drive to pursue them except as they pertain to my interests in programming and writing. This thought process goes on for quite a while until the alcohol wears off.

It's a bit odd, because I like to surround myself with quite staggeringly intelligent people (one of whom has indeed tested to have an IQ somewhere around 200, which he assured me was impossible) and they all seem to have an easier time of it. I'm intelligent enough to do whatever I want but too stupid to know what that is.

>>43811

Have you tried cleaning your room?

>>43722

>160+ IQ

>life sciences

>struggle to find worthy purpose

Why not work on paving the way to the furpocalypse?

>>43830

That plan has already been set in motion anon. All we have to wait for now is for a passing star to fling our planet into Jupiter so it can kill us all and hybrid gay cub furries can rule the cosmos or whatever retarded shit

>>43806

This is true. IQ is just a test, and like any other tests it's a flawed system of measure that has only marginal application to reality. In point of fact, it has little actual utility beyond its original purpose, which was determining how schoolchildren were performing compared to their peers, so their curriculum could be tailored to their personal level. Even using IQ to describe the capability of an adult is wrong.

However, as it is a shorthand that is easily and succinctly understood, I default to it as a matter of convenience. It is often difficult to devise a method for telegraphing what a high intelligence even is. Hollywood tends to use a completely nonsense stereotype involving solving even mundane problems using calculus. Like Sheldon from BBT; he's a "genius" because he can fill a whiteboard with math equations and he has really bad OCD.

That isn't at all at how genius works. Intelligence isn't finding a more complicated solution, it's finding a more simple one. Most people struggle to understand that. It's less like the comparison between a human and a computer, and more like the comparison between a child and an adult. Imagine a small child playing with a mechanical toy, and he can't figure out how it works. He struggles for several minutes, but can't get it to function. The whole time, you're sitting there thinking the solution is so obvious, that how can he not see it? It's not as if the child is retarded, he's just not at the level where he understands HOW a thing works, which would give him the capability to understand what is wrong.

But in the end, it's easier to just say that someone has taken a test, and the result of the test is "You're a genius!" Most people believe that, because like the child in my example, they don't understand how the test works. They don't question it.

Really, though, the kind of thing I'm talking about isn't necessarily correlated with high intelligence, it merely requires one as a baseline. It's like a gatekeeper. A person with high intelligence can still be useless, true, they can even be a complete moron and only be good at taking tests; but a person with a low intelligence will never be able to accomplish something grand, or even really be capable of imagining it. People of average intelligence tend to settle like dust into their lives, and never even question why that is, or why that should be.

>>43807

>>43835

For someone who hates me as desperately as you do, you've sure dedicated a lot of time to memorizing things about me. It's one part creepy and one part pathetic --- like I'm being stalked by a stereotype tsundere.

>a Nobel prize in Best Hybrid Furry Design Ever

This was pretty funny though. I laughed.

>>43851

Eh, I'd have to disagree with you there. Again, IQ is not the end all be all, and I do not believe that having a low IQ means you will not be able to accomplish anything significant.

It certainly helps, but what really boils on the 'accomplish something significant' scale is whether or not you have the drive and confidence for it.

The simple fact is, an idiot can lead people if they're charismatic enough. If they say what enough people are thinking.

Likewise, even with a low IQ, you can still build something of major value, and I'd make the case it might even help you in some situations, as it lets you look at a more basic level to the problem. It's why I like the whole 'wisdom =/= intelligence' idea. Because having a high IQ doesn't mean you're going to find the best solution. Sometimes, a simpler approach is needed.

Call it the difference between painstakingly defusing a mine by carefully accessing its internal trigger mechanism, and Joe's plan to just trigger the damn thing with a really long stick.

>>43851

I was told once that my IQ technically made me a genius, but my problem has always been that I don't have the tools necessary to make good use of an intellect like that and I don't know where to acquire them. Is my problem more one of simple knowledge, or is it that my brain isn't configured properly to desire those tools?

>>43860

>The simple fact is, an idiot can lead people if they're charismatic enough. If they say what enough people are thinking.

Sort of, but psychological tricks like that tend to stop working once you're aware of them. For example, some optical illusions don't work on me, and I'm fairly certain the reason why is that I know that the human brain tends to correct for color inconsistencies deliberate over-simplification for the sake of brevity, so my brain has learned not to do that while I'm observing static images. In the same way, once you're aware of the tricks that charismatic people use, if you care enough to internalize that information charisma stops working on you and you can see facts very plainly and even see through certain levels of bullshit to what people are really saying. Some autistic people are really good at this, because they don't have the same social filters that normies do.

I'm inclined to agree with you that wisdom is not the same thing as intelligence, even if they're strongly correlated, but only on the grounds that much of the general public have been trained to be apathetic despite their own intelligence. A major factor here is whether or not people care to take on new information, and unfortunately we live in a culture that encourages people to see everything purely on the surface level with no depth. That's why scientists are consistently frustrated by the media's pathetic attempts to distribute their findings.

>>43860

Wisdom is just applied experience, though. It's the difference between knowing exactly how you need to tweak a key to get a temperamental car to start, and knowing why the ignition is damaged and how to fix it. It's the difference between knowing a particular dog is prone to biting, and being able to recognize the behavioral patterns of any potentially aggressive dog. The way I see it, wisdom is having knowledge about something specific, and intelligence is having knowledge that can be applied to many different things.

Your example of the mine-defusing thing is exactly what I was talking about. You're simply reusing that Hollywood stereotype. The intelligent solution isn't always going most complicated or most "technical" one. There is also no reason why the hypothetical genius can't consider both possibilities, or even dozens.

Although, personally, I don't think Joe can find a stick long enough to get out of the blast radius. I may not be wise in the way of mines, but I do have a decent grasp over the kind of explosive potential of such a device, contrasted with the kind of length of stick you can get that is both light enough to be manipulated and heavy enough to trigger something designed to go off from the weight of a person or a vehicle.

My suggestion would be to plant a flag marking the location of the mine, and then carefully dig in the surrounding area so you can find the numbers telling you how many mines are in the adjacent squares.

>>43863

The American education system does nothing to equip people with the means to use or better their intellect. It teaches rote memorization and regurgitation of unimportant "facts" over concepts. Questioning minds are immediately and constantly attacked until they cave to complacency and acceptance. Only in a country like America could a politician convince half the country that science is optional.

I don't really have a solution to this. Partly due to being constantly ahead of my peers, and partly due to my ego, I've always been largely self-taught. I was the kid who ignored the teacher and just read the textbook, and then aced all the exams and nobody understands because he slept through class. I was in fifth grade the first time I gathered up the stones to openly challenge a teacher (she insisted that "robber" was spelled with only one "b", and I corrected her; eventually she had to consult a dictionary) but it wasn't the first time I realized how fallible they could be. Unfortunately, the vast majority of information you're going to find is going to either be incorrect, or incomplete, or twisted to suit some kind of agenda (either protecting custom or making rich people richer, typically). The best you can do is retain a questioning mind, to be a skeptic of everything you read, everyone you listen to, and most of all yourself. The instant you assume you know everything is the instant you know nothing. Intelligence isn't knowledge or experience. Even ants can teach me something if I take the time to observe them, though I recognize I am of the greater intelligence.

I'm afraid I can't offer more than generalized advice, though. What "tools" you need to succeed and excel largely depends on what you want to do with your life. Human knowledge is incomprehensibly vast, and if you don't know what you want then... well, it's like wandering through a gigantic hardware store looking for tools, without even knowing what you're trying to build.

>>43851

Hate? That implies you have ever done anything bad to me, au contraire you make me laugh pretty good and it's not that hard to remember who avatarfags in these boards, especially easy to remember the ones that showcase this level of insane narcissism. Maybe it goes hand in hand?

The usual anon is boring to play with. Most of them just get tired or are smart enough to disengage. Deranged people like Salos or you are different and quite a treat to work with.

>This was pretty funny though. I laughed.

That's fucking terrible dude.

Anyway, I've witnessed the true light of our omniscient baby god Xael and I have to ask you, his genius creator, again. Why waste time on this shithole with philistines like me when you could be out there challenging the world's understanding of the very reality that we live in or at least revolutionize the way society works and teach the masses the joy of sucking 10yo dick?

>>43863

Sort yourself out fucko. What's the point being intelligent if you're just gonna end up using it on retarded shit like our 160+ IQ pal here.

>>43880

>Sort yourself out fucko. What's the point being intelligent if you're just gonna end up using it on retarded shit like our 160+ IQ pal here.

To be fair I'm sufficiently convinced that coonfox has done more with his life than I have, and I'm willing to accept the shame that comes with that statement in order to stick up for his strength of character.

>>43882

Sufficiently convinced? You are convinced that your life is less than that of some random pedophilic anon hiding behind a baby murrsona mask telling other anons how much of a stroke of genius he is on a dead furry board? My dear friend I don't think being "too intelligent" is your problem.

>in order to stick up for his strength of character.

HAH YEAH OK FRIEND CAN I GET A LICK OF THAT BABY COONFOX DICK? PLEASE? YOU'RE CHOKING SO HARD ON IT RIGHT NOW AND I TOO WANT TO GET MY BRAIN FUCKED OFF

>>43884

Well right now I'd rather lick a baby coonfox dick than yours, and I really like dick.

>>43876

>Only in a country like America could a politician convince half the country that science is optional.

I dunno, I've heard similar things about other Western countries, notably the United Kingdom. The general attitude seems to be that if you show any signs of exceptionalism you're making the rest of the class look bad by comparison, and if I'm honest I don't see why that's (at least necessarily) a bad thing.

>>43887

Well shit more power to you my dude, not even when I'm off duty I can catch a break it seems, anyway I hope you find what you're looking for at the end of his rainbow sparkledog dick.

Hmm it seems that he went silent but if he shows up again can you please continue caressing his sweaty paws? I wanna cackle to more of this with a cup of joe later.

>>43892

If you're not fucking retarded then you'll probably realize that yes other countries have the same and even worse educational and political problems than the US.

>>43880

I guess it would be too much to ask of you to realize that my life doesn't revolve around what I post here. I write shitty furry stories (and sometimes fanfiction) to test out ideas and keep my skills fresh between writing full original novels and short-story compendiums (which don't contain furries, by the way). What you're reading is the equivalent to a band's experimental practice jam sessions in a garage somewhere, and assuming that is the same quality or content as their studio albums.

More importantly, writing is work. People who write for fun and don't bother with quality don't realize how much work it is. I throw together silly furry cub porn nonsense because it's a lot more fun and easier. All work and no play makes jack a dull boy, or something. If I dedicated every waking moment of my life to my purposes, I'd die of karoshi within a year.

Anyway, I'm not my fursona; you're just being ridiculous. Although, for all the effort expended on attempted character assassination, you're the one that's coming out looking like the jackass to everyone else. Good job, I guess? I did write other stories, you know. Surely there's another one you can pick apart; Breeding Program doesn't even involve Xael at all. Maybe you'll actually enjoy it, dunno.

>>43892

Well, the UK is basically just the USA, except taking itself way too seriously and also recently using 1984 as a guidebook for proper governance procedures. At least they recognize that climate change might just be a thing, and even if it's not changing the look of energy dependence is to the benefit of all.

I've certainly experienced the "making the class look bad" side of things, especially in classes where the tests are curved. Luckily, in adulthood, that sort of stigma tends to go away. By random chance, I've found myself with a day job where I hold a semi-managerial position (only the owners are allowed to be REAL managers) over a lot of people nearly a decade younger, and they tend to look up to me for my experience and capability. High school was the last place I encountered someone who really disliked me for being smarter than they are.

>>43896

>and also recently using 1984 as a guidebook for proper governance procedures.

We almost got there here in the U.S. but luckily Trump got elected and that promptly blocked a lot of the discussion and gave us some time to correct the huge mistakes we made socially and hopefully stop them from leaking into politics. Although this administration has still done some things that I'll forever hold near to my heart as examples of the United States being a shitty place to live. protecting circumcision as acceptable religious practice? What happened to separation of church and state, eh? I'm really glad that I get to talk to people outside of the US, because they remind me that we're not the only country that's completely fucked.

I dunno if you're from the UK, sounds like it from your post, but I get a lot of my information about Europe from my boyfriend who lives in the UK and all I have to say is good luck to you, mate. Stay strong. Hopefully this Brexit thing works out.

>>43916

Cool story.

>>43916

You shouldn't start threads if you're gonna be pissy over them going a certain way.

>>43915

You're a raging faggot who is extremely threatened by his own sexuality, and/or an edgy teenage cunt who has been so sheltered he never experienced so much as a hangnail and so never developed proper empathy.

>>43944

Just the cunty reply I was expecting. Thanks for not disappointing.

>>43948

Beggars can't be choosers.

>>43943

I know it's part-and-parcel on /fur/, I just get the desperate hope sometimes.

>>43966

It's part-and-parcel anywhere, frankly. If I had a penny for every thread on /tg/ that got derailed by GURPS fanboys or every thread on /v/ that got derailed by Nintendo haters I could buy server hosting to start my own damn imageboard.

>>43971

While I do like scalies, I will admit that there are few comforts in life better than a great big bushy tail. 7/8.

>>43948

>Post a provocative image

>Provoke a response

I hope there's self-awareness in your edge anon.

>>44149

I knew it would provoke a triggered response, just wanted to see just how triggered. But I wasn't lying about getting off to them.

>>44122

One of the best parts about dragons is that they always tend to have huge tails, too.

>You will never be a cute fox with a huge bushy tail, cuddling with your dragon husbando who also has a big thick tail, wrapping them around each other as you sleep

>>44369

It's kind of funny how dragons were once a quintessential part of both western and eastern mythology and yet now they're most commonly discussed among nerds.

I'm not sure what that says about modern culture but either way thank you very much for posting, Sanzo's work is fucking adorable and I can't get enough of it.

>>44369

>i instantly start dumping from this mediocre and mentally unstable artist that's weirdly overrated

This kills the dragon.

>>44375

Whatever floats your boat, even if it is sinking and filled with shit.

>>44380

I feel like you're really insecure and actually try to self-insert yourself into porn.

I find dragons attractive, of course. But that's besides the point.

>>44369

So you're the person who posts nipponese dergan comics?

Truly a remnant of old-/v/. I remember when dragon threads were a regular occurrence, now they've been purged by the rabidly anti-furry moderation team, confining the scaled beasts to one-off shitposts.

>>44374

The art's pretty basic, but the themes and scenarios are cute as fuck anon.

>>44393

>I feel like you're really insecure and actually try to self-insert yourself into porn.

Why wouldn't you insert yourself into porn? Do you just like watching other people/things fucking like a low-key cuck?

>>44396

>CUCK CUCK CUCK CUCK CUCK CUCK CUCK

I love this argument!

>>44399

You could always just answer the question instead of sperging out over a buzzword.

>>44400

Sure thing.

Nobody cares about you as an individual, that applies to everyone, including me.

Trying to pretend like you have/will have a dragon gf is cringeworthy and sad at best. It's in the same boat as waifufagging and drawing yourself in porn.

You're free to keep imagining yourself in porn, of course. I doubt I'll change your mind or the mind of any other person. But what does that achieve? You're not an interesting or well-written character, in fact under the circumstances it's barely you and just an OC-do-not-steal that's supposed to represent you. You're basically making porn worse for yourself by having yourself instead of a great character with actual personality in there, unless you're a huge narcissist.

Which brings me to the next thing, from what I've seen this shit is mostly caused by being really far up your own ass/insecurity and needing validation in the form of "you" fucking much more attractive and better characters.

I believe I am self-aware enough to see that, as cuntish and holier-than-thou that may seem, and have accepted that I would never fuck an imaginary character, and even if that imaginary character was real, I would never be able to and neither would any other nerd that actually uses imageboards. So I just seek cute furry couples and relationships, because fiction works best with more fiction rather than reality.

I guess that's that, I put way too much effort into something that will just be ignored and I probably forgot a lot of things. At least you're not as bad as the people that commission themselves into porn.

Oh btw humans are just shit in general and hard to filter entirely.

>>44404

Holy Hell, mad cunt alert.

>>44407

Thank you for this valuable reply to my answer to a question that (most likely) you asked on the subject of psychology and reasoning of my beliefs on a psychology thread.

>>44410

You're welcome, and no, I didn't ask. May I suggest you start smoking weed, as you sound dreadful.

It wasn't really an enigma why I became a furry, I was just a lonely teenager and the furry fandom was a really open and welcoming community where I felt like I could be myself and be accepted. I think if I watched a lot of anime as a teen I would of easily have become one of those weaboo types, but instead I jerked off to animals. Strange how these things work out.

>>43723

I really think you underestimate the wealth of knowledge that people had less than 600 years ago. You don't take into account that written history went back so many thousands of years prior to the Renaissance. I'm sure people back then would of been saying the same things you are now. It's easy to look back at our human ancestors and from our limited perspective proclaim that they lived such a simple life that anyone could know all there was to know, but that is decidedly false.

>>43722

I'm getting a serious Romanovich vibe from you.

>>44433

The ancient world had a really bad habit of periodically burning everything to the ground and starting from scratch. The Romans had knowledge of mathematics, architecture, metalworking, and chemistry that was lost for centuries; we still can't make concrete as good as they did. They even invented a mechanical computer, the likes of which was not re-done until the 19th century. The ancient Egyptians constructed the Pyramids to ludicrous geometric and engineering precision, given their tools, four thousand years ago. Yet, in Medieval Europe, people were living like it was the Iron Age. It was only very recently that information truly became immortal and knowledge started to snowball upon itself exponentially. Before then, it would have looked rather more like a sine wave: thousands of years of increase and then loss, increase and then loss, increase and then loss.

>Romanovich

You're going to have to be more specific. Google only returns several soccer players.

>>44443

I meant to say Raskolnikov but I had a mental retardation for a moment.

Of course information suffered from rapid degradation from the times before knowledge could be efficiently recorded and reproduced but even with that in mind we have recovered a great wealth of knowledge from the past. We know that the study of science throughout the various civilizations of the world was quite developed, as you yourself admit. If you did try to record the knowledge that had been developed on the sciences only 600 years ago you'd get a volume of oversimplifications that failed to capture the scope and breadth of scientific knowledge. The Renaissance man isn't a scientist who understands intimately all there is to know about each scientific practice but someone who appreciates learning, from science to philosophy, poetry to sculpting.

>>44433

>Xael "The Great PedoMan" Raskolnikov

Well that seems appropriate. Can we also exile him but into space? Maybe there he'll find his true purpose. Like Major Tom but with no helmet and tin can. Just him and his transcendental thoughts for 15 seconds, followed by an eternity of peace and quiet.

>>44433

>I was just a lonely teenager and the furry fandom was a really open and welcoming community

Ironically I didn't have that experience, even as a teenager. My circle of friends in the furry fandom were only interested in me as long as I repeated the mantra of social justice with religious fervor. In fact one of them stopped talking to me and accused me of stalking her literally because I didn't take her whining as seriously as my religion. Then one day I had the audacity to ask a transsexual questions, and now I don't have any furry friends.

TL;DR it turns out the modern definition of "open and accepting" is "ready and willing to fill your head with bullshit propaganda and attempt to ruin an otherwise healthy and productive mind for the sake of converting it to their pet cause. Sex will be deliberately withheld in order to blue-ball you into compliance."

>>44465

I've had extremely similar things happen to me. As a side point, Forgewielder just posted something on his tumblr account, and one the cunty comments made in his post was from someone who goes by "grendelw" who, in the style we all expect from snarky sjw's, asked "is he still a nazi sympathizer?"

>>44412

DUDE

>>44465

I don't think that considering sex as something you're entitled to and that someone not fucking you being some kind of withholding of what you're entitled is evidence of a healthy mind. Seems more like a mind that has an unhealthy view of other people to be honest. Also it's not typically very respectful to ask trans people about being trans, it's kind of a personal subject and can make people uncomfortable.

It's a welcoming community if like you have a basic respect for others and don't do or say things that make people feel uncomfortable. Otherwise, yeah, you're not going to be accepted. I don't really feel like that's very radical or anything but I've been wrong before.

>>44465

This. I've seen it far too often. Nearly fell in the same types myself, but fortunately I'm a stubborn person, so it became clear to me right quickly.

Sadly, I've seen a lot of friends and family members fall in to the lot. People who're only your friends so long as you do as they do, think as they do, act as they do, and so on. They pretend to be accepting, while telling you everyone who doesn't think the way they do is a horrible scumbag bigot.

And if you dare do anything that at all goes against this group, or otherwise they dislike, guess what you are? A horrible scumbag bigot, or a bigot enabler which is just as bad.

It's actually what drove me to the 'chans, as it turns out.

>>44451

Hm. You're the second person to make that comparison.

Anyway, I don't think it's appropriate to call someone a Renaissance Man just because he has an appreciation for a variety of subjects. They actually have be be accomplished in those subjects. I wouldn't call myself that; I haven't done enough to qualify, regardless of my appreciations.

>>44480

>I don't think that considering sex as something you're entitled to and that someone not fucking you being some kind of withholding of what you're entitled is evidence of a healthy mind.

I would agree. The reason why I brought it up had a lot to do with the dynamics of the group that I was in, which were quite complicated because everyone was walking on egg shells half the time. Suffice it to say I was attempting to become involved in a romantic relationship with one of the members of the group, and a couple of others successfully came on to me only to use our emotional closeness as leverage in arguments, which is frankly abusive, especially given that at the time I was much more innocent than any of them.

>Also it's not typically very respectful to ask trans people about being trans

I object whole-heartedly with that sentiment. It's not disrespectful to be curious about another person's life, especially not if you're supposedly friends with them. When my friends ask me what it's like to be gay I answer politely and show them the courtesy of assuming that they don't have malicious intent. When you've never heard of or met a transsexual before it is quite normal to have a lot of questions to ask them, and it is quite disrespectful to automatically assume that questions like "what pronouns should I use" are universally going to cause emotional distress.

For the record, the trans person in question found my questions entirely inoffensive, and it was their so-called "friends" who felt the need to step in and shame me on their behalf, which is frankly more disrespectful than anything I had asked in my post. If it had been me in those shoes I would have been furious, and particularly furious at the people who were refusing to answer any of my questions and somehow expected me to "just know" this stuff.

Your choice of words gives away an extremely unhealthy mind, in my opinion, and this is a guess but I'm willing to bet that you have a lot of repressed feelings and have been bullied into submission on these points yourself. I'm not saying that you feel entitled to sex yourself, but what I am saying is that you've been taught from a young age to believe that your natural hormones are a result of deep-seeded entitlement, and you've been shamed into feeling guilty about it. You need to stand up for yourself and learn to tell people that no, you are not a sex-crazed lunatic who objectifies the people around you; you're just human.

>>41974

i think i'm in love

>>44794

Sorry, my friend. Unless you're a qt brown-scaled dragon lady, I'm afraid you're out of luck.