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19c7a1  No.143626

>>27665

>coca-cola and popcorn ok

>poultry/fowl and butter bad

wtf is this shit?????

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18e59b  No.143629

First, I should clarify that you misinterpreted that chart. It doesn't say butter is bad. It lists fat sources which are tolerable, and according to the list, they are coconut oil, butter, beef tallow, and olive oil. (I wouldn't include olive oil on this list if you are dedicated to making this diet work well.) It wants you to avoid "seed oils", which are vegetable oils such as corn oil, soybean oil, canola oil, cottonseed oil, sunflower oil, safflower oil, etc—major sources of omega-6 fatty acids. It also mentions low-fat seafood being preferable over high-fat seafood. In other words, this chart is promoting a high ratio of saturated fat and low ratio of polyunsaturated fat.

Technically, commercial popcorn is probably not okay to eat on this diet, as it could contain vegetable oils. You would probably be forced to make it yourself, and the final nutritional value of such a snack is up to you.

Poultry is not listed, mainly because of the diets of commercial chickens. Those diets ensure their meat is fairly high in omega-6 fatty acids regardless of whether or not the chickens get to roam free. (Roaming free can improve the fatty acid ratios a little though.) Technically, even though eggs are listed on this chart, you could do even better if you avoid them too. In comparison to everything else on this chart, eggs are major sources of omega-6 fatty acids, but they are often included anyway because eggs have a wide range of nutrition. Ruminants are exceptions to the treatment of modern, commercial livestock, in the sense that the bacteria in their intestines turns much of the polyunsaturated fats into saturated fats.

Sometimes, I think coco-cola is listed in this context just to be rebellious against common thinking. I more or less follow this diet, but I don't drink coco-cola. However, I do not necessarily abstain from refined sugar around mealtime. Soft drinks are problematic even for followers of this diet, because high fructose corn syrup is considered less desirable than cane sugar (rightly so), and some drinks have added phosphorus. The allowance of refined sugar in this diet may give some pause, but that's because they don't yet understand that the main fat loss and fat prevention methods listed here are avoidance of polyunsaturated fats and maintaining a low percentage of total fat intake. This diet's version of a cut would be halving fat intake. Allowing a soft drink here and there is just for flexibility's sake. It wants you to get most of your carbs from fruits. You'll use up your vitamin stores with too much refined sugar. I personally get a ton of carbs from dates, orange juice, and 0% milk.

There are a growing number of people eating a variation of more or less what you see pictured. I am one of them. It works for me. B vitamins, vitamin K, and vitamin E recommended.

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3ba847  No.143630

>>143626

>lowers (…) serotonin

Wait, is this something some people actually want?

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310a80  No.143637

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>Soft drinks

>Ice cream

>Sweetened chocolate

>High-carb

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a72afd  No.143639

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>no oats

Bet the fucker doesn't even squat.

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272f0a  No.145178

>>143626

>no peanut oil

Explain

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18e59b  No.145182

>>145178

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanut_oil#Nutritional_content

Because it has a good bit of linoleic acid and this diet is about avoiding polyunsaturated fat.

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c42daa  No.145183

This is probably the biggest influence in the making of that chart.

http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/vitamin-e.shtml

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ce76df  No.145188

>>143629

>>a cut would be halving your fat intake.

If you follow a macro calorie diet, you know that just reducing one end of the spectrum is not wise. Reducing total calorie consumptuon is a better option. Just be reducing "fat" is not wise because its a valuable source of energy. Keeping your fat at aroubd 20-30% is fine as long as your total calories goes down, which means you might actually be able to INCREASE fat on rest days when you dont have other thing like carbs or protein tipping the scales over.

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ce76df  No.145189

>>143626

Onviously from a perfectionist perspective you can go ahead and take out coke, candy, and ice cream, even though its a good source of dairy

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18e59b  No.145192

>>145188

There are very specific reasons this diet would call for moderating fat, and they all boil down to polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFA) being harder to dispose of than saturated fats and how PUFA slows down the metabolic rate, creates water retention, and causes aging. Basically, most who have read about this topic in depth would welcome a decrease in PUFA intake by almost any reasonable means even if it meant consuming double the amount of carbs to make up for lost calories.

One technique some have tried to get PUFA levels down in order to lose body fat is to use overwhelmingly low fat foods and have food grade stearic acid (a saturated fat) added to those foods as the main source of fat in the diet. Then glycine is also supplemented in order to keep desaturase enzymes low. Stearic acid has some special properties which allows it to displace arachidonic acid in cell membranes and aid in weight loss in some contexts. I think a good experiment would be taking meat which is already in the diet, draining it of fat/melting it out, then cooking it in stearic acid, and eating the meat that way for a while to see if weight loss happens, but care should be taken to make sure the stearic acid wasn't manufactured from some hydrogenation process that puts metal microparticles such as nickel into it.

https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0104083

Shen, Ming-Che, et al. "Dietary stearic acid leads to a reduction of visceral adipose tissue in athymic nude mice." PLoS one 9.9 (2014): e104083.

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