/fit/ - Fitness, Health, and Feels

Roiding faggots take so much hormones up their ass that they could probably still make gains by just breathing and sun bathing.

Never take their word for anything unless you are also a huge roiding faggot.

Look at Clarence Kennedy and judge for yourself.

Also search here for info, http://ergo-log.com/

Going vegan or at least eating lentils and beans for protein can be easier on your wallet than just eating chicken breasts for protein. When people talk about testosterone reduction, they're usually referring to a study with rats and the effects of soy. Just try to minimize the amount of tofu and other soy-based products that you consume.

Vegan is for health gainz; if you just wanna look like Zyzz and don't care if you die in your early 20's of a heart attack like you're hero, eat meat.

>>126117

>humans have evolved for millions of years to be omnivores and consume meat

>eating meat is bad for you

Pick one brah, processed garbage is a no-no but if you hunt and cook it yourself there's no problem, and resource-gathering activities boost testosterone too.

>>126121

Well, ethically, if there is no need to kill to survive, is not OK to kill

>>126096

It can work, but is suboptimal and not sustainable if you live in a place that has a strong winter. Just focus on eating foods that isn't in a package.

>>126123

>if there is no need to kill to survive

There is.

>is not OK to kill

It is okay to kill.

>>126125

>There is.

why?

>>126124

>not sustainable if you live in a place that has a strong winter.

why?

>>126127

>why?

All of life survives through the death of others. There exists no organism on this planet that doesn't survive despite or in spite of others. The very act of living means surviving through the death of others.

>>126128

Most crops don't really thrive in the cold.

>>126096

my question to you is, why the hell do you want to go vegan?

is it to try a meme diet, is it because mah animals are dying?

you got to know there for sure, and it this answer can't come from someone else

second thing is:

you don't need to go all on vegan to be sustainable, for example you can non-prime meat and take balance so its only a small portion of your overall food

>>126130

>There exists no organism on this planet that doesn't survive despite or in spite of others

yeah, but that doesn't mean that we should kill animals to feed ourselves

>>126131

because of this

>>126123

because the meat industry expends a big part of the greenhouse gases

because superbacteria will be a problem in the future

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/dec/22/almost-too-late-fears-of-global-superbug-crisis-in-wake-of-antibiotic-misuse

https://www.forbes.com/sites/judystone/2015/12/10/new-superbug-resistant-to-all-antibiotics-linked-to-imported-meat/

i don't know about english media, but this news are true

because meat got really fucking expensive

and because "fuck animals, i don't need them"

there is a lot of reasons why someone would become vegan whithout being a fucking hippie

>>126123

Hunting is ethically positive, at least in the US. We've killed too many wolves and bears, and now there aren't enough natural predators for the large deer populations. Regulated hunting is crucial to preventing the overpopulation that would crowd out natural resources and cause great harm to the ecosystem. I'd rather a deer live a decent life and die in a matter of minutes from a gunshot, than to live malnourished in competition for depleting resources and potentially starve to death. If we had no environmental impact in the first place, I could see your point. But as it stands, we've killed enough of the predators that the ecosystem is better off within our control.

>>126121

LARPers pls go

>>126121

>humans have evolved for millions of years to be omnivores and consume meat

even when that is true, doesn't mean that we need to eat meat and eating meat is healthy

>>126123

Why?

>>126146

google up "ethics"

>>126147

>B-because ethics.

Great post, nigger.

>>126145

>doesn't mean that we need to eat meat and eating meat is healthy

We need to eat meat and eating meat is healthy. Remember, doctors have been warning that coconut oil and milk is bad for your heart for the past half century. Like sunshine and fresh air.

>>126143

>talking about hunting on a health and fitness forum on the internet has anything to do with live action roleplay or the memes associated with it

A fucking leaf.

>>126123

Plants are living beings, stop being delusional

>>126128

If you prefer to eat locally, like I do, you are limited on plant based products come winter time.

http://sustainabledish.com/meat-is-magnificent/

http://sustainabledish.com/happen-everyone-stopped-eating-meat-open-letter-vice-independent/

http://sustainabledish.com/protein-better-protein/

>>126152

>Well, ethically, if there is no need to kill sentient life forms to survive, is not OK to kill them

fix'd it

>>126156

here almost everything grows even on winter

argentinian soil is awesome

anyways the prices of some fruits and vegetables goes up and down in seasons, but i'm sure that i can plan my healthy, full-of-protein, tasty and cheap

>>126148

you trolled me xD

vegans are insane

>>127051

Bad times create strong men.

Strong men create good times.

Good times create weak men.

Weak men create bad times.

In this case we're talking in a loooong evolutionary time frame.

Argentina, just what do you think is going to happen to all the farm animals once we all come to understand your wisdom and go vegan? The whole ethical argument is complete idiocy, because the only reason farm animals are given life and brought into existence, is so that we may consume them a couple years down the road. Now you may be one of those PETA idiots who believe animals in captivity are living miserable existences and ought to be put down for their own good, but that's a very arrogant opinion when you can't exactly ask the animals how they feel. Granted a very good deal of animals brought up for eventual slaughter do not live lives worth living, but as someone with experience in the field I can tell you that a very great deal of them do. Now I can't tell you whether some pig kept in a tiny crate where it can't even turn around wants to die, or whether it wishes it was never born. I can however assure you that the lambs and sheep you'll see playing excitedly on their hay, or snugly resting in it, are enjoying what life they have a great deal. The cows who will all excitedly rush up to smell at any unusual human trespassing on their field, or who'll go right up to the fence so that children on the roadside can feed them, don't exactly seem to hold a grudge against humanity either. The same goes for any animal which is brought up with the least bit of humanity, so if you want to feel ethical, buy free range eggs and meat, I assume they have that in Argentina as well, cutting meat out entirely isn't going to do anyone much any good.

>>127051

>appeal to nature falacy

>>127051

http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/evolution/footprint-find-on-crete-may-push-back-date-humans-began-to-walk-upright/news-story/2e60cbd7386573dd2a45c5cc9d79297d

Evolution is bunkum

>>127067

So you are saying you're not a part of nature? Ah, finally, an actual South American robot able to write. How nice. Didn't know your country was so technologically advanced ever since you became socialist and poor. Argentina was one of the world's richest countries before going hipster/leftist, because, like >>127059 wrote:

>Bad times create strong men.

>Strong men create good times.

>Good times create weak men.

>Weak men create bad times.

>>127068

I did not mention a time frame, so your post is irrelevant.

>>127069

>doesn't know what appeal to nature falacy is

ok, i will explain to you, i want to be a teacher

dorphins, penduins and homo-sapiens (i guess you are a homo-sapiens-sapiens, feel free to google it)naturally rape, have homosexual relationships and kill their babies

does that mean that's ok?

also, humans don't naturally take medicine or steroids, like most of this board does

the appeal to nature is saying that because something happens in the nature is good